The main problem I have is how they dealt with Joel's death. He was a man who trusted no one, especially strangers, but in this game, they had him trust strangers even when he KNEW that Fireflies were after him. What sort of fools changed that part of his character? That what made Joel, Joel. removing it made him look awful. Then what they did to Ellie, what they did to her, from what I can remember, made her look like a total b)tch and made it so that she loses everything and the villain gets the better ending. If they wanted more people to like Abby more, they should told her story first, like at the start of the game first.and make her look less muscular. I don't think she would be that muscular in this world. Whilst we might not like her, because of her being the villain, we would have slightly liked her a bit more.
@@Kamreezyy If they wanted to kill Joel off, do it right. Have him go down fighting like we know he would be doing. Give him a death that gives justice to who he is, not this shit death.
I totally agree with you. I hate how they treated Ellie. And then having to play as Abbey was a slog. I rushed through that whole part. Does anyone know how much space the game takes on Ps5?
@@matcoffidis1135 if they wanted us to love to hate Abby, instead of totally hating her, they should have, a, a DLC end content for the first game, or b, have her story as a prolong of this game.
As a villain, we meant to hate Abby, and if done right it is a good thing that we hate them. But we hate Abby for the wrong reasons, it's because of her character and we get her backstroy so, so, late that we don't care about her story. They had to do work on her more to hate her for the right reasons.
abby talking her boy toy just pissed me off again. all i thought was abby sucked. none of the stuff Druckman tried to make us sympathize made me like, care or relate with them at all. i enjoyed watching each of them suffer. what a bloody waste. the worst part of all is most of the same narrative beats could have been hit and made all of us look forward to a third game
This game is amazing but I really don’t think it needed a remaster. Maybe just an update for the graphic overhaul to PS5 quality. But not charging another full 70$.
rewatching this with the foresight of whats to come, thematically abby still is the villain. She's the catalyst for the theme of revenge and kicks off the course of the entire game, the opening dialogue with her is uncomfortable and rigid. I still genuinely do not like her from the jump
Ellie in my opinion is villainous too. She is in no way better than Abby, killing (SPOILER WARNING FOR THE NEW KIDS) a pregnant woman and in turn the baby.
@@6godsave6thequeen6 Ellie however doesnt go out of her way to intentionally do it, she's caught in the crossfire assisting a vengeful person who is reaping from her own actions. It wouldnt of happened if she just listened and left joel alone
I appreciate how they tried to do something different and creative with the story, but forcing the player to play as the character you hate and want to kill, and then trying to get you to sympathize with them with a buncha bs isn't great story telling
Actually it is because all Abby did is what Ellie is doing in turn. Pointless revenge. It reflects well on the player since they are in favour of Ellie's revenge but disgusted by Abby's, only because we like the character she murdered.
That dissonance you feel playing her is the point they wanted you to hate her and play as her. That experience making you feel that way was their goal and us hating it is what makes it successful.
We should have gotten a story about Ellie slowly chasing down Abby as her actions slowly transform her into Abby. They could have dropped many hints of Abby’s motives and origin. Little stories here and there about the collapse of the fireflies ending with the player really being split on if Ellie did something just or not. A seasoned drama about the cost of revenge and how it is a cycle of violence. A show that doesn’t need Abby’s perspective. That’s what we all thought it might be pre release. Instead we got 2 plots that weirdly tried to make us sympathize with 2 people who seek out violent revenge in a story about how revenge is bad. It doesn’t really make the themes click. If they really wanted to make us sympathize with happy have us play her first.
I feel like this will be controversial but I think the 2nd game was as much of a masterpiece as the 1st. The developers always said from the beginning, that the 1st game is all about LOVE and the 2nd game is all about HATE. The first game was so good because it made you feel deeply for Ellie and Joel’s love for each other and that their connection would overcome any darkness. The 2nd game makes you feel the complete opposite! It makes you angry and disappointed and let down and you’re supposed to hate Abby and be pissed off with Ellie’s decisions. It’s all about hate… it made everyone feel so strongly… most even hated it! Both games made you feel exactly how the developers intended you to. Love & Hate. If you ask me it’s genius!
The main problem I have is how they dealt with Joel's death. He was a man who trusted no one, especially strangers, but in this game, they had him trust strangers even when he KNEW that Fireflies were after him. What sort of fools changed that part of his character? That what made Joel, Joel. removing it made him look awful.
Then what they did to Ellie, what they did to her, from what I can remember, made her look like a total b)tch and made it so that she loses everything and the villain gets the better ending. If they wanted more people to like Abby more, they should told her story first, like at the start of the game first.and make her look less muscular. I don't think she would be that muscular in this world. Whilst we might not like her, because of her being the villain, we would have slightly liked her a bit more.
Right, Neil druckman decided to kill Joel because the game got leaked, that was a dum move of him to do that.
@@Kamreezyy If they wanted to kill Joel off, do it right. Have him go down fighting like we know he would be doing. Give him a death that gives justice to who he is, not this shit death.
@@liamlane1165 I agree
I totally agree with you. I hate how they treated Ellie. And then having to play as Abbey was a slog. I rushed through that whole part.
Does anyone know how much space the game takes on Ps5?
@@matcoffidis1135 if they wanted us to love to hate Abby, instead of totally hating her, they should have, a, a DLC end content for the first game, or b, have her story as a prolong of this game.
As a villain, we meant to hate Abby, and if done right it is a good thing that we hate them. But we hate Abby for the wrong reasons, it's because of her character and we get her backstroy so, so, late that we don't care about her story. They had to do work on her more to hate her for the right reasons.
Bro just brought back our ptsd of joel 💀💀
The fact that it got remastered is crazy imo😅
Nick bro the infected can't see the flash lights 😂
All aboard the feels train
That buzzing you hear periodically..is that the game or like weird audio issues?
Oh I can notice the 4k I wish more people posted 4k videos
Will you be playing Final Fantasy Rebirth in February pls say yes 😩
What is the difference between this game and the original tlou2 ?
nick you finishing star wars game
I'm eagerly awaiting the Remastered Remastered TLOU XD
Nic is back🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉!!!!!!!
Bro are you really playing this game again
abby talking her boy toy just pissed me off again. all i thought was abby sucked. none of the stuff Druckman tried to make us sympathize made me like, care or relate with them at all. i enjoyed watching each of them suffer. what a bloody waste. the worst part of all is most of the same narrative beats could have been hit and made all of us look forward to a third game
I hate how it's in the most anticipated games of 2024, how no one wants this game, it's still new, they did not have make it again.
Does anyone know what the difference is besides the new levels and other stuff
Agreed im confused about the difference as well
Please let me know too.
This game is amazing but I really don’t think it needed a remaster. Maybe just an update for the graphic overhaul to PS5 quality. But not charging another full 70$.
It's not another full $70 if you already own it. Its $10 to upgrade
rewatching this with the foresight of whats to come, thematically abby still is the villain. She's the catalyst for the theme of revenge and kicks off the course of the entire game, the opening dialogue with her is uncomfortable and rigid. I still genuinely do not like her from the jump
Ellie in my opinion is villainous too. She is in no way better than Abby, killing (SPOILER WARNING FOR THE NEW KIDS) a pregnant woman and in turn the baby.
@@6godsave6thequeen6 Ellie however doesnt go out of her way to intentionally do it, she's caught in the crossfire assisting a vengeful person who is reaping from her own actions. It wouldnt of happened if she just listened and left joel alone
Not Joel...NOT AGAIN!
I appreciate how they tried to do something different and creative with the story, but forcing the player to play as the character you hate and want to kill, and then trying to get you to sympathize with them with a buncha bs isn't great story telling
Actually it is because all Abby did is what Ellie is doing in turn. Pointless revenge.
It reflects well on the player since they are in favour of Ellie's revenge but disgusted by Abby's, only because we like the character she murdered.
@@6godsave6thequeen6 to each their own i guess
@@asdfasdfadsfasdf conversation online have become quite civil as of late. Or I'm around the wrong parts for a rude interaction.
That dissonance you feel playing her is the point they wanted you to hate her and play as her. That experience making you feel that way was their goal and us hating it is what makes it successful.
@@shelbywhite3201 making the players angry and dislike the story doesn't necessarily mean success to me, but again to each their own
OHHHH JOEL NOOOOOOOO NOT AGAIN MAN YOU MONSTERS NAUGHTY DOG MONSTERS!!!!!!
Why Nick...why......the pain
You been really slacking on your gameplay. I’m really disappointed you used to be my favorite but the past two years you been slacking?
Same he takes so long to post i jist go to someone else channel
ayy you never know what someone's got goin on
Nic you think you’re not ready again wait I’m not ready for Pedro Pascal live action 😭😭😭
Same as the mountain 😂
We should have gotten a story about Ellie slowly chasing down Abby as her actions slowly transform her into Abby. They could have dropped many hints of Abby’s motives and origin. Little stories here and there about the collapse of the fireflies ending with the player really being split on if Ellie did something just or not. A seasoned drama about the cost of revenge and how it is a cycle of violence. A show that doesn’t need Abby’s perspective. That’s what we all thought it might be pre release.
Instead we got 2 plots that weirdly tried to make us sympathize with 2 people who seek out violent revenge in a story about how revenge is bad. It doesn’t really make the themes click. If they really wanted to make us sympathize with happy have us play her first.
I feel like this will be controversial but I think the 2nd game was as much of a masterpiece as the 1st.
The developers always said from the beginning, that the 1st game is all about LOVE and the 2nd game is all about HATE.
The first game was so good because it made you feel deeply for Ellie and Joel’s love for each other and that their connection would overcome any darkness.
The 2nd game makes you feel the complete opposite! It makes you angry and disappointed and let down and you’re supposed to hate Abby and be pissed off with Ellie’s decisions. It’s all about hate… it made everyone feel so strongly… most even hated it!
Both games made you feel exactly how the developers intended you to. Love & Hate.
If you ask me it’s genius!
nic you should of lay lies of P instead of this ,and welcome back
Why
Aahhh crap remaster, can u finish other game nic?
Part 1 is still better
Most overrated game in history.
im not gonna watch this, cause you wont finish it like you did with so many games..
First