SUBCOMMANDERS - EPIC Order vs. Chaos 4v4 Battle for the Lonely Mountain - Total War Warhammer 3

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  • In this epic Battle for the Lonely Mountain on Total War Warhammer 3, the Forces of Order and the Forces of Chaos square off in a 4v4 Subcommanders battle with Slaanesh, Khorne, the Beastmen, and Clan Skryre Skaven facing off against the combined might of the Dwarfs, Bretonnia, The Empire, and the Vampire Counts.
    4v4 Subcommanders Order vs Chaos - Immortal Empires - Total War Warhammer 3

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  • @sirunklydunk8861
    @sirunklydunk8861 ปีที่แล้ว +708

    “Guys, why do we have Vampires on our side?”
    “We didn’t want to invite any of the Elves.”

    • @Asraeks
      @Asraeks ปีที่แล้ว +28

      could have picked the kislevites then

    • @sevenayashinedown1283
      @sevenayashinedown1283 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Not even the chaos guys wanted the elves.

    • @Count.Saruman
      @Count.Saruman ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@sevenayashinedown1283 They probably saw what Malekith was doing to Morathi, and the Slaaneshis decided that even they apparently have standards...

    • @sirunklydunk8861
      @sirunklydunk8861 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@Asraeks let’s be real if a chaos incursion has gotten so bad the vampires are willing to help the forces of order, Kislev is long gone

    • @Count.Saruman
      @Count.Saruman ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@sirunklydunk8861 Let's be really real, the Kislevites have probably all migrated to the Southlands and are letting others deal with their problems for once

  • @Count.Saruman
    @Count.Saruman ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Teclis, hiding in a bush somewhere: Have you heard of the High Elves?

    • @ErikaWeiss633
      @ErikaWeiss633 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were probably dealing with Norsca, Chaos, and Dark Elf raids and couldn't send the help.

    • @Count.Saruman
      @Count.Saruman ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ErikaWeiss633 Knowing Teclis, he probably organised those Norscan and Dark Elf raids for some unknowable reason in the first place...

    • @remito7839
      @remito7839 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Count.Saruman Teclis was just sitting around organizing the chaos attack to make the vampires, empire, dwarfs and bretonnia allies. Now he just needs to get them to accept the elves into their alliance and his ultimate order tide is ready.

    • @Count.Saruman
      @Count.Saruman ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@remito7839 I love the idea of Teclis as some cackling, manipulative Emperor Palpatine who just happens to work for the side of Order instead.

    • @JaysonVaughn
      @JaysonVaughn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Count.Saruman Teclis is order's Tzeentch

  • @jebnordost7487
    @jebnordost7487 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    To be honest, I could see Vlad joining the Empire forces during the end times, not only because the alliances there are bonkers enough, but also because he has always seen the empire as his land, so it would be in his interest to defend it against chaos

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  ปีที่แล้ว +189

      that is indeed what happened in the End Times! Vlad can't rule the Empire if the Empire is dead and razed to ashes, so he came to their aid against Chaos

    • @Keesidia
      @Keesidia ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe I got my understanding of the lore wrong, but doesn't he want be become Emperor because he knew shit was about to get real for Warhammer and the Empire needed a strong charismatic central leader to get the provinces in line and who wouldn't be as easy to assassinate as a regular human? Other than that he was content with Sylvania.

    • @jebnordost7487
      @jebnordost7487 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Wow, didn’t even know he returned during the end times, mostly read the completely insane Teclis/Malekith vs Morathi/Tyrion bit. But that is actually really cool, having all "Elector Counts" standing united against chaos, even though one of them is a horrible undead blood drinking monster

    • @sofiane3143
      @sofiane3143 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jebnordost7487 If i remember right, he was brought back by Nagash to help secure an alliance with the Empire against Chaos by helping/influencing Gelt. If Vlad was successful in this, Nagash would bring him back Isabella (who I guess he didn't know at the time that she was already brought back to unlife by nurgle deamon ?).

    • @deadlyydude5522
      @deadlyydude5522 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sofiane3143 I believe it was Arkhan who brought him back, but this was probably what Nagash would’ve wanted

  • @olympusgolemoflight7198
    @olympusgolemoflight7198 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Belegar: Azaezel gets a grudge!
    Taruox gets a grudge!
    Ikikit gets a grudge!
    The Herald gets a grudge!
    Mannfred gets a grudge!
    Vlad: Why Mannfred?
    Belegar: Force of habit.

    • @Never_heart
      @Never_heart ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Let's he honest, Vlad would probably want to get in on that grudge against Mannfred

  • @jakepate1398
    @jakepate1398 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    This is what peak Total War Warhammer looks like.
    It's like the game was meant to be played this way.
    Awesome content dude, keep it up!

  • @Fedakeen
    @Fedakeen ปีที่แล้ว +141

    This battle made me realize just how badly old world factions need army abilities.

    • @SilentSpringz
      @SilentSpringz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thing is i think order gets good buffs from tech tree’s. Chaos etc dont get huge upgrades mostly army whole ones not per unit. Like empire can buff their swordsman and spear alot Specialy defense. Dwarfs are just shitty tbh. Feels like order are good obly with campaign buffs. But could be bias since evil are just op rn wel chaos mostly and here skaven guns are best ranged u can get

    • @The_People762
      @The_People762 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SilentSpringz they dont need it from a campaign perspective, no but thematically it would make sense and it would be nice to equalize the playing field a bit even if it isnt army abilities factions like dwarves, empire, wood elves, etc deserve unique battle mechanics imo even if its just passive abilities like wah, realm of souls , etc. That being said idk what they could/would do while still retaining balance

  • @Dayz3O6
    @Dayz3O6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Truly an End Times battle.

  • @st4rk1ll86
    @st4rk1ll86 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is peak Warhammer.
    These are Warhammer battles as they should be in the lore: Giant monsters charging, sending enemies flying, loud warmachine striding trough the battlefield, formations of soldiers clashing, shouting orders and warcries, fire and smoke from guns and cannons mixed with that of the hellish demons, projectiles and magic engulfing the sky with all the colors of battle.
    Truly total war.

  • @ledzep215
    @ledzep215 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Your subcommander battles are easily my favorite TWW content on youtube. Always makes my day :3

  • @wickd_5736
    @wickd_5736 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Was a great game and awesome cast! Really enjoyed the format and hope to play in it again! A sub-commanders tournament with a 3-4 person team could be really fun!

  • @sharilken
    @sharilken ปีที่แล้ว +9

    RIP Gotrek. He could of carried if he didn't have that bootleg Bugmans brew giving him that intestinal gas.

  • @deadlyydude5522
    @deadlyydude5522 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Kinda funny how in the end times Vlad has to team up with the empire and bretonnia to fight chaos. So technically this battle is lore friendly

  • @Roquetansky
    @Roquetansky ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Azazel and Taurox carrying the whole late was amazing

  • @AshisME101
    @AshisME101 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I gotta say, this was probably my favorite battle you've had on this channel. Like a Sub-commanders battle of the End Times. Maybe it's too much to ask, but I wish we could have these kinds of battles in Singleplayer IE campaign. That would be a great addition to the game overall, a massive alliance battle between multiple factions would be epic on more than just a 1-off standing battle. An idea comes to mind though. Kind of run an End Times back-back tournament, where you have Commanders and Sub-Commanders in a roster, and let two sides decide to duel it out. If a Commander or Sub-Commander dies in battle, they can't use them further on in the tournament. Makes committing SE Lords and Heroes a lot more dangerous. I feel like it would be super complicated and there'd be a lot of details to iron out, and it'd take a long time. But it'd be awesome to watch. Anyway, like always, your content is dope and I appreciate the time and effort you put in Indypride.

    • @SilentSpringz
      @SilentSpringz ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty predictable outcome tho

    • @wickd_5736
      @wickd_5736 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was a close fight and great cast! Definitely a super fun format and Indy brings magic to the game with his high quality graphics!

  • @TrustyLicious
    @TrustyLicious ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Subcommanders is always an enjoyable watch. I know it takes a lot to coordinate, but feels more realistic from a strategic stand point. Team work is essential.

  • @mandriser450
    @mandriser450 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very cool battle, would like to see more of these 4v4s. I feel like this was a missed opportunity to do each of the mono-god factions though... definitely my recommendation for the next one!

  • @angrybird0212
    @angrybird0212 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Keep it up man! Subcommanders is an absolutely blast to watch

  • @maciejtedeque8096
    @maciejtedeque8096 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    azazel is a type that smiles when someone looks at him. look at that sweet smiiiiil-

  • @Sinfilled66
    @Sinfilled66 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    20:20 Chaos did that life mage dirty lol XD

  • @borismorris9841
    @borismorris9841 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    New subcommanders, I was just binge watching these

  • @trashynecromancer1155
    @trashynecromancer1155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boris: "Vlad? Why are you here?"
    Vlad: "As Elector Count of Sylvania I feel *compelled* to fight alongside my fellow noblemen!"
    Boris: "...you're gonna kill me as soon as we're done, aren't you?"
    Vlad: "With great enthusiasm, yes."

  • @xDoomsDayx100
    @xDoomsDayx100 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just the title of this video and knowing whats to come given the quality of Indy's cinematography
    Made me coom

  • @MRSYYKKGY
    @MRSYYKKGY ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Belagar : Never thought I would die by Fight side by side with Undead.
    Vlad : What about a Friend

    • @alpharius1497
      @alpharius1497 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Vlad: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path... One that we all must take.

    • @xNOKxTURNALx
      @xNOKxTURNALx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alpharius1497 nice

    • @MRSYYKKGY
      @MRSYYKKGY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alpharius1497 and Belagar join his Blue Ancestors Gang.

  • @jakepate1398
    @jakepate1398 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More Sub-Commanders Please!

  • @Spencerdoken
    @Spencerdoken ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn, that Scryre artillery is still absolutely brutal even in game 3.

  • @sirvydz1857
    @sirvydz1857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing battle from start to finish, also that gang kill on life mage.... amazing, hope to see more of this !

  • @michaelcaughron6172
    @michaelcaughron6172 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why the vampires? Because they were brought by the true elector count of sylvania to defend his empire.

  • @sjbonadonna
    @sjbonadonna ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I just don't think WH can get any better than this.

  • @RuYourBoat
    @RuYourBoat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely loved this video, subcommanders feels especially appropriate for Warhammer III.

  • @Sleepingdruid37
    @Sleepingdruid37 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy shit I can't wait to watch this later. -I read the interview you did for CA, Indy, where you say you love to make these Subcommander vids. -They are definitely among my favorite. Thematic and flavorful.
    Edit: the Chaos Avengers moment was amazing XD. I’ve never seen that Ikit animation.

  • @ursa0607
    @ursa0607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ratling guns firing in such concentrated manner look awesome! The whole battle looked epic!

  • @eust117
    @eust117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    never before have I realized how useful the new character portraits can be, until this battle.

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't know Gotrek was lactose intolerant, shoulda laid off the milkshakes before the battle

  • @Will_This_Work
    @Will_This_Work ปีที่แล้ว

    That life mage got the full bully treatment from the Chaos. Full Crime Syndicate mode 🤣😂

  • @ziadmahmud3049
    @ziadmahmud3049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the dwarf player rushed without ranged support and leaving the ranged exposed, again and again, his reckless rushing made it easy for the chaos force to isolate the single entities. idk what the Brit cav did, couple of time saw them getting thrashed hard, and without support & zoned out, only player who carried the game was the vampire...overall good performance from all in the chaos side.

    • @maxpinto4934
      @maxpinto4934 ปีที่แล้ว

      think order misplayed heavily except for VC, leaving those Avalanche Mortars up was criminal

  • @iphail4733
    @iphail4733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you considered using Turin's Tavern to run a league for subcommanders? Infrastructure is all there, could be easy content

    • @milkandcookiesTW
      @milkandcookiesTW  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      team battles are really not a good live environment for streaming, unfortunately. TW infrastructure forces slowdowns based on the weakest computer and internet connection in the chain. So all it takes is one subpar computer in a 3v3 or 4v4 and the whole game lags. replays just work better for this and sieges

  • @soky8216
    @soky8216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I freakin love subcommanders

  • @masonarmand8988
    @masonarmand8988 ปีที่แล้ว

    "My ass...." I actually howled laughing

  • @RazorTreewise
    @RazorTreewise ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YES, Finally Subcommanders again :D

  • @lordderpington8021
    @lordderpington8021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to see an Elf vs Undead 3v3 for your next subcommander video.

  • @Cheeseit99
    @Cheeseit99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Has anyone pitched to CA the option of a couple larger domination maps with more objectives for 2v2 or 4v4 domination modes? Probably less funds for each player so PCs don't melt but something for the future maybe?

  • @peateargriffin9932
    @peateargriffin9932 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably one of the coolest battles I’ve ever seen. Makes me cry seeing Khone get so throughly ass clapped, but hey- someone’s gotta take the gunpowder

  • @TheChief10097
    @TheChief10097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible back and forth there. Great battle

  • @tommyshanahan3689
    @tommyshanahan3689 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love subcomanders keep them coming Indy

  • @Gokkee
    @Gokkee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see milky vid I put it in watch later after I'm done with a few vids.
    I see subcommander :D
    I click it faster than the dwarfs can grudge ;)

  • @Kaggiekins
    @Kaggiekins ปีที่แล้ว

    That's gotta be one of the best battles, and casts, I've seen! Wasn't sure who would win all the way up to the end.

  • @prototype6706
    @prototype6706 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VLAD THE CHAD, VLAD THE CHAD, VLAD THE CHAD

  • @joejackson2662
    @joejackson2662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the apocalypse sized battles

  • @RitsyReelz
    @RitsyReelz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was badass to watch! Is there any place I can go to see 'Subcommanders Rules' so me and my group could potentially run these? Would like to know how much infantry/gold amounts you recommend for each person. Along with if it works different with 3v3. Thank you for your time :)

    • @wickd_5736
      @wickd_5736 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rules were pretty loose here with normal funds and instructions to bring just a few chaff units for the sake of the video/having things to kill...though since it was for a recording we didn't go absolutely cutthroat with both unit comp and focus firing for the sake of cinematics. I already thought how cool this could be in a tournament style but I think for the sake of time and content it might need to be 3 person teams and most games played offline (could cast a few if all connections are checked in advance).

  • @denharte8670
    @denharte8670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotrek and Belegar - Unstoppable Force and Immovable Object.

  • @Lem0nsquid
    @Lem0nsquid ปีที่แล้ว

    this do be the type of content i like

  • @gottagofastest
    @gottagofastest ปีที่แล้ว

    Humans and Undead fighting alongside each other is absolute kino

  • @nicolasherrera7484
    @nicolasherrera7484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s gooooooo the best series’s is backkk

  • @liamcullen3035
    @liamcullen3035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very. Very. Epic! A gorgeous and fantastic battle; I love these battles. They are even more special now with the new factions from Warhammer 3! 💜

  • @BlizzardAcolyte
    @BlizzardAcolyte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other units may have been the actual MVPs in terms of output, but the Ratling Gunners definitely took the cake for the most visually obvious contributors…got to fire almost freely the entire time, and you could TELL when their targets were getting torn up

  • @Itzak15
    @Itzak15 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was pleasant to watch as a chaos enjoyer

  • @emprahsfinest7092
    @emprahsfinest7092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great and I can't wait to see a remake of the Order vs Destruction game from Warhammer 2 that was epic

  • @tincano-beans2114
    @tincano-beans2114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Order boys needed to put some fire on the ratling guns and mortars.

  • @clawhammr666
    @clawhammr666 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the Dark Gods!
    Also now I need someone to make the lotr legolas talking to gimli 'what about at side of a friend' but one of 'em is replaced with an undead :P

  • @seijuroakashi9535
    @seijuroakashi9535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That moment where vlad saving Boris would be so cool if it was in a story

  • @captintardigrade
    @captintardigrade ปีที่แล้ว

    00:18 top tier edit lol

  • @MathewMichel
    @MathewMichel ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, definitely more please! Love these.

  • @Alexandermhinton
    @Alexandermhinton ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing content. Thanks Indy!

  • @VincentLawDS
    @VincentLawDS ปีที่แล้ว

    The return of @Aerocrastic !!!

  • @randomtagr.t591
    @randomtagr.t591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only I had a PC for such games -_-

  • @srdjan455
    @srdjan455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let give praise to the real MVP here, which are the CPU of all the players

    • @wickd_5736
      @wickd_5736 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessss! I have an older gaming laptop but it's on SSD with GTX 1060 and it's totally fine with my fiber internet (900+ mb up and down). During the actual game it ran very well! Honestly, I find connections to be the most important aspect over graphics in most situations albeit you can fix some people's lag issues with graphics adjustments.

  • @ak6427
    @ak6427 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was actually extremely fun to watch, wish I could take part in these kinds of games too!

  • @Egregoros
    @Egregoros ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your videos Indy, you're the best !

  • @shark_byte_online
    @shark_byte_online ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is freaking awesome

  • @MHMichaelHooper
    @MHMichaelHooper ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video. Now do the same replay but with no commentary or UI! This match is so cinematic I love it!

  • @tristanmattwig8541
    @tristanmattwig8541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do the three elven factions vs the three undead factions or 4 human factions: empire, kislev, bretonnia, and cathay against 4 demon factions or 4 chaos warbands etc

  • @sipscoffeeaggressively2503
    @sipscoffeeaggressively2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    That poor life mage got emoted on so hard

  • @llaa28
    @llaa28 ปีที่แล้ว

    The goated series is back!!

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you guys always do this well im at work

  • @pedroaquiles2074
    @pedroaquiles2074 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these epic battles

  • @KaiReel23
    @KaiReel23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have no fear, VLAD is here!

  • @ramsey_ajr1702
    @ramsey_ajr1702 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every since the WH2 intro cinematic I’ve been hoping so bad that CA add a free for all mode with multiple armies and also the ability to combine units from different armies like this battle, would be so cool

  • @nevermetmister
    @nevermetmister ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your subcommanders battles! Would be awesome to see a full-on human alliance (empire, kislev, bretonnia) taking on swarms of chaos and disorder next. Could even give the humies ogre mercenaries to make it 4x4

  • @paldo1321
    @paldo1321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are the best!

  • @ian2372
    @ian2372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesss they're baaaack!!!!

  • @Exo4r
    @Exo4r ปีที่แล้ว

    More! We demand more!

  • @kayvaan1
    @kayvaan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is peak Warhammer

  • @KestalDoern
    @KestalDoern ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wish the map was bigger to allow more maneuverability and less of cluster battles. Great content, keep it coming!

  • @jbest5590
    @jbest5590 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is premium content

  • @Never_heart
    @Never_heart ปีที่แล้ว

    Scariest thing for any monster to hear "Gotrek as well"

  • @thunderswoosh08
    @thunderswoosh08 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sub commanders tournmanet when? Make the 4v4 teams pick races for the whole tournament, give their armies a name and cast the hell out of it!

  • @koheletcalaforexclan6508
    @koheletcalaforexclan6508 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s actually artful to have vampire counts there! The Undead who refuse death, fighting those who seek to bring it to them again! A Battle of Fates!

  • @rickardberglund1564
    @rickardberglund1564 ปีที่แล้ว

    :) yes more SUBCOMMANDERS

  • @sventrillhof605
    @sventrillhof605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just awesome 👏🏻

  • @appleman136
    @appleman136 ปีที่แล้ว

    cinematic af sonny jim

  • @majorkhajiit
    @majorkhajiit ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I love watching the bad guys win so much?

  • @alexhess1163
    @alexhess1163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotrek lightin up one more funky j before going out.

  • @thehellyousay
    @thehellyousay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    vampire counts siding with order makes sense.

  • @GGRS
    @GGRS ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah dude. I can't imagine how badly this battle would lag to actually play lol

    • @wickd_5736
      @wickd_5736 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't bad, we all had good connections!

  • @trygveblacktiger597
    @trygveblacktiger597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vampire counts did fight along side the Empire in the end times so its... not totally unreasoneble that it would happend here too

  • @Guillimann
    @Guillimann ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the God of War hype is real here too, nice OST my dude

  • @russfarr2001
    @russfarr2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic man!

  • @NyJoanzy
    @NyJoanzy ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess Vlad really did get to be an elector count in this timeline.

  • @UnreasonableOpinions
    @UnreasonableOpinions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where was the support for the Empire? They got caught out so badly, and it wasn't because the artillery was rushing forward.

  • @Vill1988
    @Vill1988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old world armies really need a buff. My god it really shows how badly they got schooled on by the new Chaos Demons