I really appreciate this tutorial. About to install my Rockford P1 10" sub & the DSO Nano was amongst several other items I got for the install. I also got the SMD DD-1 to compare to the results I get from the DSO but most likely will be keeping the DSO v3 due to it being 1/2 the price of the DD-1 Thnx again...
+whoodiestyle hey, I just installed my sub this morning and am trying to use my DSO V3 following ur guide. Although I am getting a wave, I see the "clipping" point better w/ the "light blue" setting @ 10V x 10 vs. 10V x 1 as u hav in the video. My yellow is set on .5ms & what voltage is ur "green" set @ pls? Is my clipping point accurate if I use the 10V x 10? I noticed changing that changes the "green" to +_40V & my voltmeter jumps Thnx
Frank Miller is it a class d amp and how many watts? I tried this on my saz 2500 and it doesn't work as well because the sign wave goes beyond the limit of the dso nano.
I've been so lost on the subject as well. I saw that it has a limit of 10v but is that DC or AC or does it matter? Is that the purpose of the 10x probes? To make them go up to 100v? I just wanted to tune my amp (SKv2-3500) and I know on the multimeter it goes above 50v. Also I see the 10x probes are just singles. Is the alligator clip attached to the probe the part that goes into the negative terminal and the the actual probe goes into the positive? So many question. I just don't want to buy it and not be able to use it. So my guess is I need to buy the DSO nano, the 10x probe and a BNC adapter?
The wave is too small for me to see on dsp138. It gets bigger with changing the ms timing, voltage and voltage multiplyers but it's confusing because different ms / voltage / voltage multiplyers combinations show clipping while others don't.
only on head unit. set everything to flat and turn bass boost to 0. if you have a bass knob turn it all the up so that way when you set gains no matter how high you turn the radio (up to max vol with no clipping) up it wont clip
@@whoodiestyle bummer, your description for setting the nano is the one that helped me learn to scope a amp. I have a 10x probe just wasn't sure how much it could handle.
Thanks very much for the video .. I do have a question though. I'm about to do this for my current amp but my dso is stuck on USB mode instead of the battery showing up and if I unplug it from the wall outlet it turns off, any possible fix?
So why Doesn't It work On Class D Amps? Both A And D Output AC Voltages. I Have A Class D 4 Channel Mids And Highs Amp. Is It Because Class D Amps Usually Put Out Higher Voltages (make more power) And The DSO Won't Be Able To Display The Reading?
Hey I was wondering if you can do this on higher powered amps say 1300 watts and up? I ordered the nano v3 and I am slightly regretting it due to the fact that the v3 only comes with x1 probes and you need a x10 probe to do higher voltages.
It comes with two sets of probes. Yes it will work on any amp. From 1 watt to infinite. Just make sure the test tone you are using is for the correct application. It does not come with a charger but I had a old usb charger laying around that fit it fine and charges.
+whoodiestyle its works 1watts to infinite? Are you sure ? Does amperage load (if i use a sub hooked up) change the amp for example 4-1ohm ? This video shows with out sub or speaker attached
Is it safe to do this testing to any amp and does amperage load on speakers change the wave and voltage ouput of amp in scope? I meant to ask is it save for all amps to test with out subs/ or speakers?
your info is wrong, with the included probe (1x) it is 80Vpp 40Vp 28.28Vrms so will only work up to 400w rms amp BUT adding a BNC 10x probe with 3.5mm mono plug works for higher voltage and CLASS D amps use it weekly on 7.5K +amps
yes a bnc x10 100mhz probe with a bnc to 3.5mm mono adapter works 100% use it weekly, the factory probes with this are 1x and only good for 80Vpp= 40vp= 28.28Vrms which is equivalent to a 400w Rms @2ohm amp.
After watching your video I bought a v3 nano. My amp is an old Rockford Fosgate BD1500.1 mono subwoofer amp from around 2000-2003. I made a 40 hz -7db cd to set gain with. My box has 2 Rockford Fosgate HX2 Power 10's rated at 1000 watts rms, 2000 peak. 4" voice coil subs. This v3 nano doesn't go up high enough in volts for my amp. Tried the maximum volts setting and still the wave just disappears out of the screen. I shown a max reading of around 84 volts (vrms). Was useless for the 1000 plus watts amp. However I did find out my line out of my Sony Xplode head unit begins clipping at 29, 34 is max volume on my Sony. Should have spent the little extra and got the SMD distortion tuner. :( Cool video though! It helped me get familiar with the nano v3. Thanks for the video!
My pre-amp rca begins clipping at 2.83 volts. Its most definitely a cool in-expensive tool to have. Just has its limits. Massive power cables going to that amp in your video!
Bobby Kincaid you could get a regular BNC probe that has the option to reduce the input signal by x10. and just get a 3.5 mm to BNC adapter. Both the probe and the adapter are cheap.
& I can see clipping on my HU....ALL HU IS THERE A LIMIT ON CLASS A/B AMP WATTAGE THAT I CAN'T EXCEED LIKE IT WILL BE FINE ON A A/B 4CH THAT'S 1,000WATTS + RMS?
So can this thing ACCURATELY find the max head unit volume level (without clipping/distortion)? Im more curious about that then setting gains with it. My H.U. is Kenwood Excelon KDC-X399
yes it will find the max volume on a hu until you get clipping. other hu I've tested don't make it to max like another kenwood I recently bought 34 out 35 is the max before clipping.
Sweet. I saw this on eBay and was searching to see if I could use it for this application! Awsome. Looks like I'm getting one!
I really appreciate this tutorial. About to install my Rockford P1 10" sub & the DSO Nano was amongst several other items I got for the install.
I also got the SMD DD-1 to compare to the results I get from the DSO but most likely will be keeping the DSO v3 due to it being 1/2 the price of the DD-1
Thnx again...
You're welcome.
+whoodiestyle hey, I just installed my sub this morning and am trying to use my DSO V3 following ur guide. Although I am getting a wave, I see the "clipping" point better w/ the "light blue" setting @ 10V x 10 vs. 10V x 1 as u hav in the video. My yellow is set on .5ms & what voltage is ur "green" set @ pls?
Is my clipping point accurate if I use the 10V x 10? I noticed changing that changes the "green" to +_40V & my voltmeter jumps
Thnx
Frank Miller is it a class d amp and how many watts? I tried this on my saz 2500 and it doesn't work as well because the sign wave goes beyond the limit of the dso nano.
I've been so lost on the subject as well. I saw that it has a limit of 10v but is that DC or AC or does it matter? Is that the purpose of the 10x probes? To make them go up to 100v? I just wanted to tune my amp (SKv2-3500) and I know on the multimeter it goes above 50v. Also I see the 10x probes are just singles. Is the alligator clip attached to the probe the part that goes into the negative terminal and the the actual probe goes into the positive? So many question. I just don't want to buy it and not be able to use it. So my guess is I need to buy the DSO nano, the 10x probe and a BNC adapter?
Do you supposed to hear the tone coming out the speakers ?
1. Thanks for the guide.
2. What the difference between measurements of speaker out from amp (hu max gain) and line out from hu?
How do you know where to set the trigger
Nice demonstration video. Can the DSO Nano v3 also display how much watts the amplifier is producing at the gain level you set? #CarAudio
No it doesn't. unless someone figured out a way.
whoodiestyle voltage times amperage = power.....or close to it
Use a frikin' DMM
Hey buddy does this work with a 5000 watt amp?
The wave is too small for me to see on dsp138. It gets bigger with changing the ms timing, voltage and voltage multiplyers but it's confusing because different ms / voltage / voltage multiplyers combinations show clipping while others don't.
Thank you for this easiest and best Ive found so far.. but im wondersing, in the bottom left what is that
What probes do you using for a sub amp?
So when you do this, does all of the other settings on the amp need to be turned all the way down?
I would like to know that to great question
only on head unit. set everything to flat and turn bass boost to 0. if you have a bass knob turn it all the up so that way when you set gains no matter how high you turn the radio (up to max vol with no clipping) up it wont clip
Hello, what do I have to set on the DOS Nano v3 to get it displayed?
@@Maneho8200 not sure. I've been out of the audio game a while. Hope you get it figured out.
thanks for that i have a dso nano 1 this worked like a charm
Im glad it worked out for you.
What is the largest wattage amp you can scope with the 10x probes?
Im not sure I've been out of car audio loop now for few years.
@@whoodiestyle bummer, your description for setting the nano is the one that helped me learn to scope a amp. I have a 10x probe just wasn't sure how much it could handle.
Cool 😎 thanks bruh!
I have a 5channel amp....will it do it’s job?
Thanks for the video. I was about to purchase the smd dd1 until i saw your video. Where can I purchase the nano v3 from?
Ebay will be the cheapest.
To be clear, you are checking the pre-amp in-signal for clipping and then the amplified out-signal for clipping right?
Yes.
I ordered one ^_^
You use 1000hz for head unit,,,component amp and also sub amp???
50/60 hz for subwoofers
Thanks very much for the video .. I do have a question though. I'm about to do this for my current amp but my dso is stuck on USB mode instead of the battery showing up and if I unplug it from the wall outlet it turns off, any possible fix?
I've never experienced that problem before. Maybe try using a different usb slot like say on a computer.
Are you able to see the bottom of that waveform or just the top?
you can see both of them.
whoodiestyle thanks. Just couldn't tell from that angle. I think I'm going to try to get a used one off ebay or Amazon. Hopefully it won't be a dud.
What dB was your test one?
Timothy Rose 1khz 0db tone.
Why wouldn't it work for class D amps....?
I tried it on class d amps and you need to increase the signal some how otherwise the sign wave doesn't show up on the dso nano.
So why Doesn't It work On Class D Amps? Both A And D Output AC Voltages. I Have A Class D 4 Channel Mids And Highs Amp. Is It Because Class D Amps Usually Put Out Higher Voltages (make more power) And The DSO Won't Be Able To Display The Reading?
Junk the leads that come with it. Get a bnc to 3.5mm mono plug and a set of 10x 100mhz bnc probes works for HU, 1ch, 2ch, 4ch, A/B and D amps
what about a 60 mhz 10x bnc probe? what impact would that make?
@@RFocuz what's the highest wattage amp you can scope with the nano and 10x probes?
Hey I was wondering if you can do this on higher powered amps say 1300 watts and up? I ordered the nano v3 and I am slightly regretting it due to the fact that the v3 only comes with x1 probes and you need a x10 probe to do higher voltages.
It comes with two sets of probes. Yes it will work on any amp. From 1 watt to infinite. Just make sure the test tone you are using is for the correct application. It does not come with a charger but I had a old usb charger laying around that fit it fine and charges.
+whoodiestyle its works 1watts to infinite? Are you sure ? Does amperage load (if i use a sub hooked up) change the amp for example 4-1ohm ? This video shows with out sub or speaker attached
Is it safe to do this testing to any amp and does amperage load on speakers change the wave and voltage ouput of amp in scope? I meant to ask is it save for all amps to test with out subs/ or speakers?
I have found out this will not work on class d amps aka sub amps. Only a and b amps for mids or highs.
You dont need a speaker to set gain.
whoodiestyle that's what I was goin to ask...so if u set the gain it will be the same if u wire to 1 2 or 4 ohm load ???
your info is wrong, with the included probe (1x) it is 80Vpp 40Vp 28.28Vrms so will only work up to 400w rms amp BUT adding a BNC 10x probe with 3.5mm mono plug works for higher voltage and CLASS D amps use it weekly on 7.5K +amps
question for ya.to use this on high wattage amps will I need any accessories.. im seeing x10 probes and 3.5mm adapters and blah blahneed advise please
yes a bnc x10 100mhz probe with a bnc to 3.5mm mono adapter works 100% use it weekly, the factory probes with this are 1x and only good for 80Vpp= 40vp= 28.28Vrms which is equivalent to a 400w Rms @2ohm amp.
After watching your video I bought a v3 nano.
My amp is an old Rockford Fosgate BD1500.1 mono subwoofer amp from around 2000-2003. I made a 40 hz -7db cd to set gain with.
My box has 2 Rockford Fosgate HX2 Power 10's rated at 1000 watts rms, 2000 peak. 4" voice coil subs.
This v3 nano doesn't go up high enough in volts for my amp. Tried the maximum volts setting and still the wave just disappears out of the screen. I shown a max reading of around 84 volts (vrms). Was useless for the 1000 plus watts amp.
However I did find out my line out of my Sony Xplode head unit begins clipping at 29, 34 is max volume on my Sony.
Should have spent the little extra and got the SMD distortion tuner. :(
Cool video though!
It helped me get familiar with the nano v3.
Thanks for the video!
Sorry it didn't work out for the bass amp. I've only used it on mids and high amps.
My pre-amp rca begins clipping at 2.83 volts.
Its most definitely a cool in-expensive tool to have. Just has its limits.
Massive power cables going to that amp in your video!
Bobby Kincaid you could get a regular BNC probe that has the option to reduce the input signal by x10. and just get a 3.5 mm to BNC adapter. Both the probe and the adapter are cheap.
Terrance Storey I'm going to buy that and try it on a bass amp
that amp shouldn't put out but around 40v.
can I see what my hz settings are at on my AMPS with this ?
& I can see clipping on my HU....ALL HU IS THERE A LIMIT ON CLASS A/B AMP WATTAGE THAT I CAN'T EXCEED LIKE IT WILL BE FINE ON A A/B 4CH THAT'S 1,000WATTS + RMS?
will this work for 3000 watt amp the manual says it cant take more than 80vpp
this wont work for subwoofer amps aka class D. Works for class a and b amps.
So can this thing ACCURATELY find the max head unit volume level (without clipping/distortion)? Im more curious about that then setting gains with it. My H.U. is Kenwood Excelon KDC-X399
yes it will find the max volume on a hu until you get clipping. other hu I've tested don't make it to max like another kenwood I recently bought 34 out 35 is the max before clipping.
Ive been told by some people that mine is good til 34, others say 28...i need to scope it lol
it all depends on the manufacturer and quality but yes each one is different.