I don't understand why people think the Republicans only favor those who are rich. I'm a Republican, and definitely NOT rich. I favor Christian values.
The one thing I respect about Boehner is that he has balls. More shit would get done in Washington if more politicians had a little something between their legs.
every single person who voyed for this needs to go! Thomas Paine videos make the most sense I've ever heard and had to see this one again. I want my country back!
Doesn't matter who voted for or against. Don't you people get it? NOBODY READ IT!!! (Yes, I'm yelling.) Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, don't you think our representatives should know what they're voting for or against?!
You got that right! A member of the AP once quoted me, "Republicans are not in the business of stewarding the "American people, they are in the business of winning elections." "Tell 'em what they want and how they want it, and let 'em have it just that wayayyyy..."
I disagree. He had more than enough time to read and discuss. He has a team of people to help him. As a leader he had the resource to get the documents ahead of time. As a leader he had the responsibility to forgo luncheons and dinners and use that time to study on behalf of his constituents. Sir, you go to Congress to lead, not to complain.
He sure is! Now how many of his cabinet appointments have had to resign due to tax issues? He hasn't even been in office for a solid month yet and had to replace about 10 top cabinet officials. The guy is a disgrace and I am ashamed to say I bought all of his BS and voted for him.
There is now a READ THE BILL ACT circulating in Congress. Please contact your Representatives to sign on and support it. Would you, if you had a company, allow an employee (which the President is, and all elected officials), to sign a contract without reading it?
THANK you...we don't hear that sort of argument enough on this website. Sometimes when I watch the Republicans I feel like I'm listening to Hoover on the eve of the Depression.
Fiscal year 2008 * $608 billion - Social Security * $386 billion - Medicare * $209 billion - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) * $324 billion - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending * $261 billion - Interest on National Debt $145.2 billion - Global War on Terror You are a fool.
I know this has been said a trillion times but: I wish the Republicans were this adamant about not spending wastefully (on stuff like bombing children) when they were in power.
No bill should be passed if not read and weighed. It was read by the very people who now claim to have never read it. I admire your tenacity. But, when the patriot act was passed in much the same way where were the muckrakers then? I honestly think and feel this bill will do more good than harm. This package is not about letting immigrants take from us; it is about getting us back on our feet. If it doesn't do that, well then I'm with you. Until then, I'm with Obama.
We the people should be asking who really wrote this bill. Pelosi and Reid couldn't have possibly done that in a few hours by themselves. This question should be going through your minds. Think about it.
It's funny that Mr. Boehner had no problem voting for the USA Patriot act without reading it, but now it is a big deal to vote without reading a bill. I do not approve of this "stimulus bill", but the hypocrisy is astounding.
Guerilla - quick civics lesson: 1) House appropriates spending money. 2) President signs budget. 3)Pentagon treasury accounts get filled according to budget. 4) Pentagon (read that: CLINTON Pentagon) spends and is supposed to document what is spent. 5) New President - New Sec. of Defense in January 2001. 6) New Sec. of Defense starts audit of Pentagon after taking office. 7) Early Sept. 2001, Audit is completed and 3.2 Trillion is unaccounted for. Sec. of Def. reports findings.
He is right about one thing just like the patriot act that was rushed through no one read that either. Another week to go over the damn thing would not matter. Still even if given a year I still don't think they would read it. They would have some staff member read it and present the cliff notes.
What we actually need is a complete government replacement. Cabinet, justices, congress, senate, ALL of them. The ONLY possible way a stimulus package could reach 1100 damn pages is from all these pricks inserting a small piece of their agenda into it. 3 or 4 pages would more than suffice. Every bill under consideration should be publicly viewable online for AT LEAST A WEEK.
I want to know what you think he said that was so wrong? The part about it being 1100 pages that nobody had time to read or the part where we were promised 48 hours to read any legislation? If this is the Change you can keep it!!
The president plans to spend the Presidents' Day weekend in the Windy City, and is not expected to sign the bill until Tuesday, when he travels to Denver to discuss his economic plan.
What are you talking about? They don't have paid staff to take apart the bill for them. Like most congressman who have been interviewed they said most of what they found out about the bill was from tv because the process was so secretive and made in backroom deals that no one knew what was in it.
I don't understand the righteous indignation. This kind of BS has been a part of Washington for several generations. The slate wasn't wiped clean when Obama was elected. What kind of democracy crushing activities has John Boehner been up to in say the past eight years? They all need a basic lesson in civics.
im not debating what was in the stimulus bill or whatever changes they made to it, what im saying is he needs to be careful with his words because the media will try to discredit him with stuff like that, and there needs to be more discussion and examination of things like this.
you need to rephrase that to " i hope he does great upholding the constitution and keeping a capitalist market system instead of socialism or communism."
I totally agree. Unfortunately economists don't have the rhetoric that lawyers do. Lawyers get the votes, become politicians, make laws, and abuse our dollars.
You missed the part that I was talking about from the day Obama took office. On the day Obama took office the DOW was 9625, right now it's at 7129, that's 2496 points down from the day Obama took office 2 months ago.
A "revenue neutral" policy offered by Ryan would have meant that revenue taken in would not be spent for defense, pay down the debt, or secure social security or Medicare, it would just be a transfer of wealth from the middle and working class to the rich by putting a limit of $2500 on deductions. However, the deduction for "self" is currently a little more than $2500. So if they put in a voucher program you could choose between a deduction for "self" or a "medical voucher" deduction
To you DEMS here: whether you mud sling the other way or not, two wrongs don't make a right. 48 hours is not enough time for a government body to be "transparent" to the people. Urgency, for me is often followed by great skepticism, and this case is no exception.
It is everyone's fault we are in this situation. Economics is economics. Mostly poor democrats defaulting on their over extended loans is what is causing this problem. Not republicans defaulting on their loans.
arvid - sorry about that typo - that $300 bottle of wine is getting to my typing skills...Gotta run...have to prepare to tend to my 1,000 unit Section 8 housing complex on Monday. Thank goodness for the "stimulus package"! Your dime will help my tenants fill my pockets (and allow them to continue their rampant drug trading). Have a wonderful Valentine's Day weekend!
WRONG! This bill has changed completely every day for weeks, the final version, that is completely different from other versions in where money goes and how much money is spent, just now came out, and we have no time to even know what is in it.
When you give tax cuts to rich or poor, it's not a "gift", it's letting them keep more of the money that's theirs, and that they've earned. It's not the gov't job to try to get money from anyone who has money. Ironically, large tax cuts tend to stimulate the economy and result in more dollars actually coming into the government - that's been WELL documented.
Isn't food stamps stimulus, helping businesses wether the economic storm. You people have blindness of the perspective. The Gov is supposed to print money, not for bank bailouts, but for jobs infrastructure, and not UN infrastructure. It is about our Word in God, where the people are valuable, their time, as well as the products produced so we print money based upon our resources in the ground, but not through the fed but through our own sovereign Gov. putting mony in circulation not in gold
To the British Empire. We realize it would be better for us to have one king without oversight than 239. Therefore we The Colonies of the Americas submit ourselves to your queen without any parliamentary representation, the way it used to be. We apologize for any soldiers we may have killed in our childish fit.
Is there a law that forces our representatives to vote? Did they have to vote? If he voted, find it disingenuous. Vote Libertarian-I mean, how much worse could they make it?
Boehner should just resign now. All he wants to do is privatize the all services and retire to a cushy executive position at one of the companies that bought him so long ago. Mr. Boehner is a disgrace.
With wisdom and brilliance like this, I would encourage you to run for Congress as a Republican. This is a about their level of discourse: whacko conspiracy theory.
The markets looks forward, not backwards. The fact that the market has dropped significantly shows that it's rejecting what he has to say. This happened with Jimmy Carter, and he had one of the most catastrophic presidencies in recent history. Obama has said he doesn't consider the DOW an important factor and writes it off as a gallop poll. He is ignoring the thing that has made America a prosperous state.
I was very satisfied when he threw that piece of crap on the floor, I watch that over and over again just to hear it drop
I don't understand why people think the Republicans only favor those who are rich.
I'm a Republican, and definitely NOT rich.
I favor Christian values.
Hello beautiful how are you doing, hope you are doing well with your family and how’s everyone over there?
On Friday, President Obama called it inexcusable and irresponsible for senators to delay passing the stimulus bill.
HAHA oh SHIT
ROFL @ 0:30
the stimulus bill said "DOOOFFF (echo)" on the floor
holy shit that was hilarious
oink oink
The one thing I respect about Boehner is that he has balls. More shit would get done in Washington if more politicians had a little something between their legs.
OMG!! I couldn't have said it better myself!! I totally agree with you!!!
Our government is out of control. Those who signed this bill -without reading it- should be shackeled and jailed!
"Members of Congress should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors."
Well Said !
every single person who voyed for this needs to go! Thomas Paine videos make the most sense I've ever heard and had to see this one again. I want my country back!
I am sorry to hear that. Maine is a great state and more than just a historical part of our history.
I'd like to know more about Mr. Chamberlin.
Doesn't matter who voted for or against. Don't you people get it? NOBODY READ IT!!! (Yes, I'm yelling.) Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, don't you think our representatives should know what they're voting for or against?!
You got that right!
A member of the AP once quoted me, "Republicans are not in the business of stewarding the "American people, they are in the business of winning elections."
"Tell 'em what they want and how they want it, and let 'em have it just that wayayyyy..."
I disagree. He had more than enough time to read and discuss. He has a team of people to help him. As a leader he had the resource to get the documents ahead of time. As a leader he had the responsibility to forgo luncheons and dinners and use that time to study on behalf of his constituents.
Sir, you go to Congress to lead, not to complain.
Throw out everyone in congress/senate who voted for this bill.
He sure is! Now how many of his cabinet appointments have had to resign due to tax issues? He hasn't even been in office for a solid month yet and had to replace about 10 top cabinet officials. The guy is a disgrace and I am ashamed to say I bought all of his BS and voted for him.
Taxes aren't YOUR money. Thats like asking for a free drink at a restaurant after your meal because of the tax that was added onto your bill.
Anyone who voted for this bill, needs to be voted OUT. Anyone voting for this bill cares NOTHING for the American tax payer!!
Reminds me of the patriot act that nobody had time to read before they signed it into law.
There is now a READ THE BILL ACT circulating in Congress. Please contact your Representatives to sign on and support it.
Would you, if you had a company, allow an employee (which the President is, and all elected officials), to sign a contract without reading it?
people have no idea how fucked we are
Rush, Sean, Jon Gibson, Beck, Boortz, Levin, Jason Lewis, Snow (RIP)... Take your pick. All Real conservatives.
I'll keep my God I'll keep my Gun, I'll keep my Money , you can keep your CHANGE.
THANK you...we don't hear that sort of argument enough on this website. Sometimes when I watch the Republicans I feel like I'm listening to Hoover on the eve of the Depression.
It already is. Open your eyes, and your wallet, and your grandchildrens wallets. If there's anything left in them.
Ahh, I see you took that lesson to heart so quickly.
"Do not rebuke a fool for he will hate you, rebuke a wise person and he will love you."
Don't forget: $4 billion for ACORN is stimulus
Fiscal year 2008
* $608 billion - Social Security
* $386 billion - Medicare
* $209 billion - Medicaid and the State
Children's Health Insurance Program
(SCHIP)
* $324 billion - Unemployment/Welfare/Other
mandatory spending
* $261 billion - Interest on National Debt
$145.2 billion - Global War on Terror
You are a fool.
I know this has been said a trillion times but:
I wish the Republicans were this adamant about not spending wastefully (on stuff like bombing children) when they were in power.
i agree...hes the only one who had the balls to say what the driveby media and liberal senators wont
How exactly is he a hypocrite? He said his views, he never said anything about Bush being bipartisan. He just said Obama isn't.
I see an absolute sweep of congress and senate in the next year
I wish these were the republicans who ran the show these last 8 years, where were they?
Calling me stupid is not necessary; however, I won't reduce myself to your standards.
Alright way to go John Boener. 5 STARS.
They are talking about how good the Kool-Aid is.
No bill should be passed if not read and weighed. It was read by the very people who now claim to have never read it.
I admire your tenacity. But, when the patriot act was passed in much the same way where were the muckrakers then?
I honestly think and feel this bill will do more good than harm.
This package is not about letting immigrants take from us; it is about getting us back on our feet.
If it doesn't do that, well then I'm with you.
Until then, I'm with Obama.
What's with all the "Johnny-come-lately" charges? Is fiscal responsibility suddenly BAD because it's a Republican calling for it?
We the people should be asking who really wrote this bill. Pelosi and Reid couldn't have possibly done that in a few hours by themselves. This question should be going through your minds. Think about it.
both parties need to be replaced. The workers need to be in control. They create the wealth, and they deserve to keep it.
It's funny that Mr. Boehner had no problem voting for the USA Patriot act without reading it, but now it is a big deal to vote without reading a bill. I do not approve of this "stimulus bill", but the hypocrisy is astounding.
Minnick never received one moment's notice. Why? Because it made SENSE!
Guerilla - quick civics lesson:
1) House appropriates spending money.
2) President signs budget.
3)Pentagon treasury accounts get filled according to budget.
4) Pentagon (read that: CLINTON Pentagon) spends and is supposed to document what is spent.
5) New President - New Sec. of Defense in January 2001.
6) New Sec. of Defense starts audit of Pentagon after taking office.
7) Early Sept. 2001, Audit is completed and 3.2 Trillion is unaccounted for. Sec. of Def. reports findings.
im glad this has so many responses!
Why is it that France has a health care system that does a better job than ours and costs much less per capita than ours. It's single payer.
A different time, a different economy. But what has that have to do with the situation we are in now since it didnt go anywhere?
He is right about one thing just like the patriot act that was rushed through no one read that either.
Another week to go over the damn thing would not matter. Still even if given a year I still don't think they would read it. They would have some staff member read it and present the cliff notes.
Way to go John Boehner!!!
It is unethical for any man to tax another mans home to fund his social agenda. Friends dont do that, your enemies will. - John Taft
Holy Shit
Did i just agree with Boehner?
What we actually need is a complete government replacement. Cabinet, justices, congress, senate, ALL of them. The ONLY possible way a stimulus package could reach 1100 damn pages is from all these pricks inserting a small piece of their agenda into it. 3 or 4 pages would more than suffice. Every bill under consideration should be publicly viewable online for AT LEAST A WEEK.
seriously, how long did it take to write this? this has been going on for a while.
I want to know what you think he said that was so wrong? The part about it being 1100 pages that nobody had time to read or the part where we were promised 48 hours to read any legislation? If this is the Change you can keep it!!
The president plans to spend the Presidents' Day weekend in the Windy City, and is not expected to sign the bill until Tuesday, when he travels to Denver to discuss his economic plan.
What are you talking about? They don't have paid staff to take apart the bill for them. Like most congressman who have been interviewed they said most of what they found out about the bill was from tv because the process was so secretive and made in backroom deals that no one knew what was in it.
Hey, I'm not the one that voted for Obama.
I don't understand the righteous indignation.
This kind of BS has been a part of Washington for several generations. The slate wasn't wiped clean when Obama was elected. What kind of democracy crushing activities has John Boehner been up to in say the past eight years?
They all need a basic lesson in civics.
GOP has a lot to say for the shit they've put through this decade.
It would be like me saying most democrats think for themselves and are intellectually honest.
It is a very sad day in American history.
Republicans, thank you for voting "NO."
im not debating what was in the stimulus bill or whatever changes they made to it, what im saying is he needs to be careful with his words because the media will try to discredit him with stuff like that, and there needs to be more discussion and examination of things like this.
unimaginable and scary times are yet ahead of us !
what they did was so wrong..he's right
you need to rephrase that to " i hope he does great upholding the constitution and keeping a capitalist market system instead of socialism or communism."
I totally agree. Unfortunately economists don't have the rhetoric that lawyers do. Lawyers get the votes, become politicians, make laws, and abuse our dollars.
You missed the part that I was talking about from the day Obama took office.
On the day Obama took office the DOW was 9625, right now it's at 7129, that's 2496 points down from the day Obama took office 2 months ago.
A "revenue neutral" policy offered by Ryan would have meant that revenue taken in would not be spent for defense, pay down the debt, or secure social security or Medicare, it would just be a transfer of wealth from the middle and working class to the rich by putting a limit of $2500 on deductions. However, the deduction for "self" is currently a little more than $2500. So if they put in a voucher program you could choose between a deduction for "self" or a "medical voucher" deduction
Lol, Boehner in the video says a Trillion Dollar spending bill yet LITERALLY on CSpan RIGHT UNDER IN THE DESCRIPTION it says 787 billion dollars.
To you DEMS here: whether you mud sling the other way or not, two wrongs don't make a right. 48 hours is not enough time for a government body to be "transparent" to the people. Urgency, for me is often followed by great skepticism, and this case is no exception.
its a 879 mill credit card.
who is going to pay the bill when it comes due???????????????
The Patriot Act was bi-partisan.
Flux why don't you try and write something new. You've posted that exact same message 3 or 4 times today. I know. I've been here all damn day!
It is everyone's fault we are in this situation. Economics is economics. Mostly poor democrats defaulting on their over extended loans is what is causing this problem. Not republicans defaulting on their loans.
FYI, 7946 was the DOW span during Bush's time. The day Obama took office the DOW was at 9625. Get you numbers straight!
Boehner sure knows how to rile up a crown no doubt.
I'm just curious..what have the Democrats ever done to help ANYONE?
Stating the obvious doesn't score points. Apparently protecting the taxes of those 1% does in his mind.
arvid - sorry about that typo - that $300 bottle of wine is getting to my typing skills...Gotta run...have to prepare to tend to my 1,000 unit Section 8 housing complex on Monday. Thank goodness for the "stimulus package"! Your dime will help my tenants fill my pockets (and allow them to continue their rampant drug trading). Have a wonderful Valentine's Day weekend!
WRONG! This bill has changed completely every day for weeks, the final version, that is completely different from other versions in where money goes and how much money is spent, just now came out, and we have no time to even know what is in it.
When you give tax cuts to rich or poor, it's not a "gift", it's letting them keep more of the money that's theirs, and that they've earned. It's not the gov't job to try to get money from anyone who has money. Ironically, large tax cuts tend to stimulate the economy and result in more dollars actually coming into the government - that's been WELL documented.
What I mean is you have no say on where tax dollars are spent. Almost ALL of America wanted out of Iraq, but we kept on spending, correct?
No, it's not socialism. It's called being christ-like. Helping out the less-fortunate. This country WAS based of Christianity, correct?
I absolutely agree
ONE dude with a sack!! sad sad why could we not have hundreds of this Boehner!!!
This is true. Yet people fall along their political lines like the good little puppets they have been trained to be.
Did you go to school to write like that? That's poetry!
i think john BONER has a HARD time convincing people of his LONG argument.
@slicked25 people didn't vote him to get healthcare passed.. Jobs are more important at this point
Isn't food stamps stimulus, helping businesses wether the economic storm. You people have blindness of the perspective. The Gov is supposed to print money, not for bank bailouts, but for jobs infrastructure, and not UN infrastructure. It is about our Word in God, where the people are valuable, their time, as well as the products produced so we print money based upon our resources in the ground, but not through the fed but through our own sovereign Gov. putting mony in circulation not in gold
To the British Empire. We realize it would be better for us to have one king without oversight than 239. Therefore we The Colonies of the Americas submit ourselves to your queen without any parliamentary representation, the way it used to be. We apologize for any soldiers we may have killed in our childish fit.
It's over. I am taking my money out of the bank NOW!! See what happens when there is a bank run.
Well America was a great country.. RIP
Is there a law that forces our representatives to vote? Did they have to vote?
If he voted, find it disingenuous.
Vote Libertarian-I mean, how much worse could they make it?
Boehner should just resign now. All he wants to do is privatize the all services and retire to a cushy executive position at one of the companies that bought him so long ago.
Mr. Boehner is a disgrace.
With wisdom and brilliance like this, I would encourage you to run for Congress as a Republican. This is a about their level of discourse: whacko conspiracy theory.
The markets looks forward, not backwards. The fact that the market has dropped significantly shows that it's rejecting what he has to say. This happened with Jimmy Carter, and he had one of the most catastrophic presidencies in recent history. Obama has said he doesn't consider the DOW an important factor and writes it off as a gallop poll. He is ignoring the thing that has made America a prosperous state.
I'm sure any moment we'll be seeing Boehner on television, personally declining aid for his state. Any second now. Any minute.
excellent point narwhalfre.. you screen name is too long to re type! But bravo on the point.
Well for those of you that dont know, that $787 stimulus package did jump start the economy by Q4 2010.