This is my local line, which I often use sometimes from Thorpe Bay to Benfleet, to commute to work. The section of the walk between Leigh-on-Sea and Chalkwell is called Old Leigh, which has some pubs, cafes, a couple of restaurants, cocklesheds and a selection of shops selling various little bits and bobs.
So much better than their other trains. C2C don't seem to have done much with their trains since they were brand new. They definitely need a bit of love or possibly even replacement.
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Hope you enjoyed your walk to the beach. I love 387s although I’m used to 377s as I live on Southern. It’s all we have haha. I occasionally treat myself to a ride on the GWR 387 07.12 departure to Cardiff. As usual LM, a very informative video.
I'd have thought, given that Fenchurch Street doesn't have a direct Underground link, that the point of stopping everything at Limehouse was to provide access to the westbound DLR to Bank, where there are links to multiple Underground lines, not the eastbound DLR; if people wanted to use that, they could have just taken the DLR from Tower Gateway.
Its for both. I would travel Barking to Limehouse then back to Canary Wharf well South Quay (before Jubilee Got to West Ham, though actually the Jubillee Faff at Canary Wharf made the DLR still quicker)
I'm not sure it's worth the aggro getting the DLR from Limehouse to Bank, the walk from Bank DLR to the other tube lines can't be much shorter than the walk from Fenchurch Street to Tower Hill!
Not just Bank but also for connections to Canary Wharf, Lewisham and Woolwich, since you can't get a direct train to those places from Tower Gateway usually.
I live close to Upminster, so I'm used to Class 357 too. But I've been wait for them new 720's that were announced. I've heard that they are close to completion after months of testing.
Now that the 387s have gone to Great Northern, C2C is down 6 units. Eventually they will get a batch of 12 class 720 Aventras: twice the number of units, but longer trains; that means a pair of 240m sets will be replaced by six 240m sets. However I don’t think they’re in a rush to get them in service right now
c2c are aiming to get the first 720s in service by the end of this year, but I believe there were problems found during testing which has delayed their introduction - I believe the reduced timetable for rush hour services combined with their leases expiring at the end of June is what led to c2c withdrawing them when they did as opposed to subleasing them from GTR.
@@OMtheRails Looking at the mess so many other new fleets are in, I'm not really holding my breath on an introduction on schedule. Fascinating too that some of the new commuter fleets here in America are having as much trouble as well it seems
They can easily be modified to 110mph, as they have been temporarily as a test bed for the 387. It won’t matter on GN though as they don’t tend to operate above 100mph anyways - I think if they were to have transferred over, it would have happened by now.
@@OMtheRails I really miss those trains! Everything about them was fantastic from the motor noise to the interior and the smiley fronts. And now we have this…
I’m shocked that the train skipped Barking, it is the only station that serves every single line of the c2c (West Ham, Limehouse and Fen St don’t have access to the Liv St line)
You have got to be kidding, the infrustucture isn't built for that kind of line speed, not to mention (most) of the stations are fairly close together, so what would be the point? It's a commuter line not an express (and commuter) one like Greater Anglia.
So glad those trains have gone! The seats were really uncomfortable. Very upright and hardly any cushioning. You could see other commuters spending most of the time shifting about in their seats, trying to find some kind of tolerable comfort. They also felt more claustrophobic. The 20yr old trains were way better. However, they always said these trains were a stop-gap until the new trains arrive in the next few months. Hopefully, they have good seats!
It would have been easier if c2c were to inherit the Class 379s to operate on London Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness, Southend Central, Basildon, Grays and at peak times from Liverpool Street to Shoeburyness and Southend Central. With the Class 387/3 transferred to Great Northern.
Do you think you can tell c2c the branch that serves the rainham and ockendon loop needs to be double tracked..it was alright in the 1900s.. nowadays na ..
They were built as stock units, with no specific operator in mind. c2c then took them on as a short term lease after the announcement, so it didn’t really matter which interior was used. 6 years on, this worked out rather well for Great Northern as this matches their existing 387/1 fleet…
I didn’t know you did videos! This was a very good one, interesting to hear about this forgotten fleet. I can only suggest that you rehearse your script a little more and re-record if necessary, hearing you cut off mid sentence to correct yourself can be quite jarring. Subscribed, regardless.
Inside, it's the least impressive of all the London termini. They really made a mess if things and completely ruined the interior. Mind you the same can also be said about Canon Street, and Charing Cross.
This is my local line, which I often use sometimes from Thorpe Bay to Benfleet, to commute to work. The section of the walk between Leigh-on-Sea and Chalkwell is called Old Leigh, which has some pubs, cafes, a couple of restaurants, cocklesheds and a selection of shops selling various little bits and bobs.
I've found the shops to be rather nice, was a pleasant walk too which I will hopefully be doing again soon! 😁
So much better than their other trains. C2C don't seem to have done much with their trains since they were brand new. They definitely need a bit of love or possibly even replacement.
I think as long as they get a repaint and internal refurb they'll be fine - hopefully the 720 introduction provides the opportunity to do just that.
@@OMtheRails afaik i think thats the plan 🙂 could be wrong
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Brilliant video, interesting that the C2C class 387's have rarely been used, they have end gangways as well which I think are very useful.
Great video mate. Never been on the C2C network before.
"Just look at that length! Really impressive, don't ya think?"
you already know
Can't beat a Microfleet! Good Job i rode them before they left after you pestered me every time i was in London 😆
Great Video Midland!
I told you you'd regret it otherwise 😉 Cheers DOTS!
Enjoyed this!
Very informative. Thanks for another great video.
Hope you enjoyed your walk to the beach. I love 387s although I’m used to 377s as I live on Southern. It’s all we have haha. I occasionally treat myself to a ride on the GWR 387 07.12 departure to Cardiff. As usual LM, a very informative video.
Them 720s look dashing in c2c colours 😍
I'd have thought, given that Fenchurch Street doesn't have a direct Underground link, that the point of stopping everything at Limehouse was to provide access to the westbound DLR to Bank, where there are links to multiple Underground lines, not the eastbound DLR; if people wanted to use that, they could have just taken the DLR from Tower Gateway.
Its for both. I would travel Barking to Limehouse then back to Canary Wharf well South Quay (before Jubilee Got to West Ham, though actually the Jubillee Faff at Canary Wharf made the DLR still quicker)
I'm not sure it's worth the aggro getting the DLR from Limehouse to Bank, the walk from Bank DLR to the other tube lines can't be much shorter than the walk from Fenchurch Street to Tower Hill!
@@davidbull1914 Aye. People obsess about the tube map too much.
Not just Bank but also for connections to Canary Wharf, Lewisham and Woolwich, since you can't get a direct train to those places from Tower Gateway usually.
I live close to Upminster, so I'm used to Class 357 too. But I've been wait for them new 720's that were announced. I've heard that they are close to completion after months of testing.
I love it how he says '' Time to get this show on the rails'' instead of ''Time to get this show on the road''.
So this is where the Blue door 387s came from been puzzled by this for weeks since I first saw them on an Ely to King's Cross service
I love the 357s, especially on Connect in SCR
Now that the 387s have gone to Great Northern, C2C is down 6 units. Eventually they will get a batch of 12 class 720 Aventras: twice the number of units, but longer trains; that means a pair of 240m sets will be replaced by six 240m sets. However I don’t think they’re in a rush to get them in service right now
c2c are aiming to get the first 720s in service by the end of this year, but I believe there were problems found during testing which has delayed their introduction - I believe the reduced timetable for rush hour services combined with their leases expiring at the end of June is what led to c2c withdrawing them when they did as opposed to subleasing them from GTR.
@@OMtheRails Looking at the mess so many other new fleets are in, I'm not really holding my breath on an introduction on schedule. Fascinating too that some of the new commuter fleets here in America are having as much trouble as well it seems
They all had to go back up to Derby
it also ran between reading and newbury racecourse for a short while
I hope the Class 379s follow the 387/3s and go to Great Northern
Probably not because of leasing costs. Would make sense then the GN 387s could go to Southern as a 455 and 313 replacement.
They can easily be modified to 110mph, as they have been temporarily as a test bed for the 387. It won’t matter on GN though as they don’t tend to operate above 100mph anyways - I think if they were to have transferred over, it would have happened by now.
As rightly said above, it was leasing costs which blocked the 379 transfer.
@@OMtheRails quite sad, as I loved the 379s. I guess they are always there in storage of any toc wants them, or has the money
@@171trains bring the leasing costs down, the 379 fleet will soon find a new home
Great video. ☺️
Great video mate. The 6 387s will go to Great Northern and the new c2c 720/6s will enter service this year
Thanks! All 6 are already with them - they just need minor mods and evaluation. They should re-enter service in September 👍
Yay more crappy electrostars for great northern. Woo hoo! 🙄😒
I wouldn’t mind if they were at the same level of comfort as the 365s, but that sadly isn’t the case 😔
@@OMtheRails I really miss those trains! Everything about them was fantastic from the motor noise to the interior and the smiley fronts. And now we have this…
@@adamashelby7033 for example class 387s replace 365s which is sad
I’ve only been on this route twice Barking to Southend Central it wasn’t too crowded we left at 11 am.
I’m shocked that the train skipped Barking, it is the only station that serves every single line of the c2c (West Ham, Limehouse and Fen St don’t have access to the Liv St line)
I used to live in Rochford Essex so I used Greater Anglia to London Liverpool St.
I got a C2C class 387 but from Paddington station
so, a GWR one
@@mudchute4dlr not even, inside had the c2c line diagram and interior from the c2c it was just on loan to gwr
Microfleets, love how awkward they are!
Great Video
Pity the linespeed cannot be increased as 110mph would give Southend to London in half an hour
You have got to be kidding, the infrustucture isn't built for that kind of line speed, not to mention (most) of the stations are fairly close together, so what would be the point? It's a commuter line not an express (and commuter) one like Greater Anglia.
@@EssexGayBoi A non stop service would be handy
It is the Southern Catt
Can you tell me at 5he beginning of the video what was the music called which was playing in the background
Wow nice train
So glad those trains have gone! The seats were really uncomfortable. Very upright and hardly any cushioning. You could see other commuters spending most of the time shifting about in their seats, trying to find some kind of tolerable comfort. They also felt more claustrophobic. The 20yr old trains were way better. However, they always said these trains were a stop-gap until the new trains arrive in the next few months. Hopefully, they have good seats!
disagree, i like the seats
question, when do c2c go via stratford and into liverpool st?
great vid btw
half-hourly service on weekends only, they go to shoebury via basildon
It would have been easier if c2c were to inherit the Class 379s to operate on London Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness, Southend Central, Basildon, Grays and at peak times from Liverpool Street to Shoeburyness and Southend Central. With the Class 387/3 transferred to Great Northern.
Do you think you can tell c2c the branch that serves the rainham and ockendon loop needs to be double tracked..it was alright in the 1900s.. nowadays na ..
I thought it was a southern train because the seats!
Oooo Ex- southern seats
So what will they do with these trains?
Seen them at EH depot only
Why do they have southern seats for
They were built as stock units, with no specific operator in mind. c2c then took them on as a short term lease after the announcement, so it didn’t really matter which interior was used. 6 years on, this worked out rather well for Great Northern as this matches their existing 387/1 fleet…
@@Andrewjg_89 Could do with nicer or more frequent stuff on Thameslink !
I think they are going to GWR
No, they have left GWR and also C2C.
Going to Great Northern
All 6 are now with Great Northern, including the ones that were transferred to GWR.
I didn’t know you did videos! This was a very good one, interesting to hear about this forgotten fleet.
I can only suggest that you rehearse your script a little more and re-record if necessary, hearing you cut off mid sentence to correct yourself can be quite jarring. Subscribed, regardless.
Inside, it's the least impressive of all the London termini. They really made a mess if things and completely ruined the interior. Mind you the same can also be said about Canon Street, and Charing Cross.
Imagine the embarrassment of having an Italian train operator running London to Essex train services.
0:50 fails what he said and resumes to stud up another bunch of words trying...
come back the 302s, these new trains are rubbish,