I wish I could give it a thousand likes. JazakAllahu khairan for sharing your knowledge. Please keep teaching the world needs to see the beauty of Islamic Art.
I'm an Indian student of class 11 and in our school we have an opportunity to make a project on anything we like, and after stumbling upon a video of Islamic design I decided to do a project on just that. I've researched a lot and I am really grateful for your videos which show an authentic way of making these designs unlike the modern techniques which you proved wrong so effortlessly...thank you!
wonderful video! I've utilized so many of the "western method" videos you describe and achieved decent results, but I noticed some of the same issues you point out. As long as I simply copied the pattern from the tutorial, it turned out fine, but when I attempted to use these patterns as a basis for different interpretations, the inequalities become quite apparent. I'm so glad you included the explanation and examples at the end of this video. Thank you so much!
I've always been fascinated with the beauty of places all over the globe with these geometric tiles and decided to explore the art of Islamic geometry. However it does seem quite intricate n complicated. But so love it. 😍Truly fascinated. I hope God grants you a long life to pass it on to others interested. God bless.
man, i discovered you today, and I spent the whole day watching your videos, they are so good! Thanks for the help you should keep uploading videos again
thank you dear @rodriguerra3639, you can join my Facebook group to learn more or join one of my online courses. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/ mohamad-aljanabi-s-school.thinkific.com/collections
Fascinating, thank you very much for sharing this. I'm intrigued by geometry and the methods used over the ages generally with compass and straight edge. I think many tutorials that I've seen concentrate on one instance of the pattern but fail to consider how they would join together.
Such an extremely delightful, well made video - so dense with free sharing of wisdom and beauty .. I am amazed and touched deeply by, and in reverend gratefulness for, the great gift of your work, sir. Thank you. SO much.
Thank you Mohamed. Very informative!! Such elegance with compass and ruler Wonderful to see the application of this astounding geometry in different locations
I just so your video and it's what I was looking for, thanks for all the informations and for producing a video so well explained and well detailed. Also it has been a pleasure to listen. I'll look out for more of your videos.
This is excellent, you explain it so well it is clear to see how problematic the wrong construction. I've constructed it differently, but arrive at the same well proportioned pattern.
Samira! I wanted to share this tutorial with you as well, someone beat me to it! :). I wanted to know your thoughts on this method and if you in your travels have had the chance to learn the traditional way as well. I have now been looking high and low for material in English on this method and I have not found anything :(.
it's really good, so enghtening, but calling them "western method"' and "traditional method" I'm not sure about! the comparisons made from 9 mins 30....are so so useful!!
Thank you for your kind comment Joke Gabriel, for more information you can join my facebook group” Geometric Patterns Art School”. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
Really beautiful explanation and method, thank you! I also am interested to see how they base construction template is duplicated and stitched together. Thanks again and best wishes.
This man gets it right. He's using symmetry groups for the constructions. It's all about the planimetric 17 groups family. Arabs already dominated this strategy long time ago. The traditional approach IS the correct one but there are other alternatives for the algorithm. Incorrect methods? Well if the result is IDENTICAL then there are more than one way to generate it. If there are parametric differences in the generated drawing then there is a significant difference in the generative algorithm. The video illustrates the proof. However would be interesting how such ERROR is generated. Traditional methods or original generating techniques are the preference, in my opinion. They evade simplistic interpretations.
Sir, at 5:50 you open the compass "a little more than half the distance." but this seems to make a big difference in the final outcome. I experimented three times and it ruins the overall proportion. Can you explain this? What should that compass setting be? thank-you
Dear bluegrassbarry The setting of the compass should not have any effect on the operation. The aim is to divide the distance between the middle of the square and the corner of the square into two equal parts. Please check your compass, sometimes the compass slight opens when you are using it without you noticing. And you end up drawing different size arcs, and you think they are the same size. It is very important to draw the arcs with the same radius exactly. If you have a screw in your compass, tighten the screw to prevent the compass from changing. I hope that would solve your problem. Thank you
YES but I thought that you went on to use those two points to describe two of the layout lines. It was my mistake. thank you for these videos. very well done.
I did my research and i found that the mughal rulers had to draw one-fourth of the pattern alone and trace them to form the whole rosette because when they drew bigger full patterns, they would be proportional in small sizes but disproportional in larger ones.......therefore , when constructing a rosette to decorate palaces and madrassas , they had to draw only a part of the full rosette...the more you know. He said in the previous video that the western method is incorrect... notice that the western method draws the full rosette rather than drawing only a part of it ehereas he is drawing only a part of the rosette and reapeating it....this repeating method is used to draw bigger rosettes rather than the smaller ones
Thank you Aditya Graphics, you can join my facebook group “Geometric Patterns Art School” for step by step tutorials on this link. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
thanks so much for this simple method. I paid for some courses but your way of creating pattern and teaching is best. PLEASE tell me how do you tessalate these patterns to make a bigger composition. I tried so many ways but none seem to be working. p!ease help
Using this method how can we mirror the quarter pattern in order to get a perfect complete pattern. Could you please mention that also. How to repeat this pattern using traditional method.
Hello, thank you very much for this very clear explanation. Would you be able to explain what is the westen way of drawing a pattern? When I look at westen construced patterns, they seem correct.
Yes, they might get some simple patterns correct. But when they try the complex patterns they could not do it correct. Some of the so called experts fail miserably, even the most basic patterns like Eric Broug. his books are full of errors.
Thank you Andrés Escobar, I am sorry to say that it not possible to do step by step with explanation for the pattern for Alhambra pattern because it is complicated pattern and it will take a long time. But I will make a quick animation in the future.
Thank you my friend, the five pointed stars appear symmetrical only in fivefold patterns. And this a fourfold pattern, and symmetrical six pointed stars only appear in six fold patterns.
This one seems to be the basic pattern for many creations. Questions, do you think the original artists were able to scale up and down their patterns, we are able to do it so easily, and are there the original workings from these creations still around that gives some insight into how they went about creating them?
It’s a very good question Ray Moore, yes this is a basic pattern in its family. And all complicated fourfold patterns like the patterns from Alhambra and historical sites in Morocco depend on getting this pattern correct. And yes the original artists defiantly were able to scale the pattern up and down, because in this method you start with the square and not by drawing circles or polygons in an open space. And the scaling the square up and down will scale the pattern itself. I recently created a group on facbook to teach this subject, you can join the group if you like by following this link. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
Thank you for your reply, I have joined or favourited some of your face book groups, but have not yet investigated them. The different alternatives that you give to the base pattern here (11.14) must also arise out of geometric calculation, I tried creating them but my assumptions were wrong. And the resultant shapes did not conform. Do you discover the calculations, or are they already existent. موقع بوابة الخط العربي
Hello, just started looking at face book 'the school...' Group, seems to have a lot there, will start working through. I used to be a graphic artist, before computers, hand lettering, precision drawing and construction (commercial) so, consequently enjoy this process, plus have always had a fascination with Islamic art. Have visited Alhambra twice and spent many happy hours studying the various patterns, so it was a joy to find you.
Dear friend, I am sorry to say that there is not a single book which deals properly with traditional Islamic geometric pattern. But you can join my Facebook for more tutorials. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
@@BawabatAlkhatAlarabi Why don't you write one? I think it's a great idea considering you have ample knowledge and experience with the traditional methods!
@@sumaiyaqureshi662 Sorry I can’t give you an estimated time, there are so many things involved in the process, translation, editing, proof reading and more. I will announce it when it’s ready.
No my friend you do not need advance mathematics, all you need is some basic geometry, i.e. how to draw one line perpendicular on another, how to divide angles and good skill using compass and ruler. and thank you for your comment..
موقع بوابة الخط العربي thanks for your answer. i had tried to make ones by following this video. its fun and a bit confusing 😂. is there any online resources i should read for basic knowledge?
Do not worry, it can be confusing at the beginning but you will get more confidence with practice. Have a look at the other videos on my channel. th-cam.com/channels/liRTDLm_NFjzK-Ow1n1j8Q.html
Thank you TOP FOOT, but it is not Moroccan geometry, it is Arabic geometry. Because this art evolved in Iraq, Syria and Egypt two hundred years before it arrived to Morocco.
Thank you TOP FOOT, but it is not Moroccan geometry, it is Arabic geometry. Because this art evolved in Iraq, Syria and Egypt two hundred years before it arrived to Morocco.
موقع بوابة الخط العربي اخي لان ابنة عمتي عاشت عندكم و قالت لي كان المشارقة يكرهون كل ما هو مغربي و هم يعلمون ان المعمار نقل من المغرب للاندلس و ليس العكس و لا يودون اللعتراف اخي فن النقش و كل هذا فنون المسلمين اجمعين و كل واحد و طريقته مثلا فن الرسم على الخشب نعترف انها من سوريا لكن الطريقة جد مختلفة القفذان من كلمة خفتان لان العرب اخذوا من الفرس عدة كلمات كطربوش ات من سربوش لكن لباينا مختلف تماما
I wish I could give it a thousand likes. JazakAllahu khairan for sharing your knowledge. Please keep teaching the world needs to see the beauty of Islamic Art.
I'm an Indian student of class 11 and in our school we have an opportunity to make a project on anything we like, and after stumbling upon a video of Islamic design I decided to do a project on just that. I've researched a lot and I am really grateful for your videos which show an authentic way of making these designs unlike the modern techniques which you proved wrong so effortlessly...thank you!
Thank you Aashka good luck with your school project
Anya sha Allah Your lesson is my new mission all thanks to Allah al jameea al hadee I appreciate you in advance
wonderful video! I've utilized so many of the "western method" videos you describe and achieved decent results, but I noticed some of the same issues you point out. As long as I simply copied the pattern from the tutorial, it turned out fine, but when I attempted to use these patterns as a basis for different interpretations, the inequalities become quite apparent. I'm so glad you included the explanation and examples at the end of this video. Thank you so much!
Thank you Joanna
Blessings for explaining "The structure of Magic"
this actually makes me want to cry its so perfect
The eternal truth ☝️🌹
awesome! Especially seeing the dissection of the Alhambra pattern..2 patterns, rotated and then a bit of an overlap. Beautiful and so skilled!
Sir, you've opened my eyes! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you for your kind comment Tracey Osterlind
Thank you sir for your time and generosity. This is beautifully perfect and what an appeasing feeling when everything falls in place !
I've always been fascinated with the beauty of places all over the globe with these geometric tiles and decided to explore the art of Islamic geometry. However it does seem quite intricate n complicated. But so love it. 😍Truly fascinated. I hope God grants you a long life to pass it on to others interested. God bless.
man, i discovered you today, and I spent the whole day watching your videos, they are so good! Thanks for the help you should keep uploading videos again
thank you dear @rodriguerra3639, you can join my Facebook group to learn more or join one of my online courses.
facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
mohamad-aljanabi-s-school.thinkific.com/collections
Fascinating, thank you very much for sharing this. I'm intrigued by geometry and the methods used over the ages generally with compass and straight edge. I think many tutorials that I've seen concentrate on one instance of the pattern but fail to consider how they would join together.
Thank you very much for your sharing. The understanding makes the shapes even more beautiful and mysterious.
Thank you Françoise Ott, you can joint my facebook group for more tutorials
facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
Fantastic! Thanks for this very professional explanation.
Such an extremely delightful, well made video - so dense with free sharing of wisdom and beauty .. I am amazed and touched deeply by, and in reverend gratefulness for, the great gift of your work, sir. Thank you. SO much.
Thank you so much for your kind words
This is very beautiful. Thank you!
Very amazing and genius work
Man, you opened with a bold statement
Thank you Mohamed.
Very informative!!
Such elegance with compass and ruler
Wonderful to see the application of this astounding geometry in different locations
This is wonderful! Thank you!
Wonderful 👏👏👏👏👏
جزاك الله خيرا. اكثر من رائع.
I just so your video and it's what I was looking for, thanks for all the informations and for producing a video so well explained and well detailed. Also it has been a pleasure to listen. I'll look out for more of your videos.
you can join my Facebook on this link
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This is excellent, you explain it so well it is clear to see how problematic the wrong construction. I've constructed it differently, but arrive at the same well proportioned pattern.
Samira! I wanted to share this tutorial with you as well, someone beat me to it! :). I wanted to know your thoughts on this method and if you in your travels have had the chance to learn the traditional way as well. I have now been looking high and low for material in English on this method and I have not found anything :(.
it's really good, so enghtening, but calling them "western method"' and "traditional method" I'm not sure about! the comparisons made from 9 mins 30....are so so useful!!
Thank you for the lesson! So happy with the information!
Thank you for your kind comment Joke Gabriel, for more information you can join my facebook group” Geometric Patterns Art School”.
facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
Wonderful vidéo
have had varied success with other methods. This is great. I hope that you continue to make these videos
Thank you very much S. Raybourne
Beautiful, fascinating, educational ✔✔✔
Thank you for sharing🙏
❤ THANK YOU
Thank you!!
Really beautiful explanation and method, thank you! I also am interested to see how they base construction template is duplicated and stitched together. Thanks again and best wishes.
Thank you Silddx
This man gets it right. He's using symmetry groups for the constructions. It's all about the planimetric 17 groups family.
Arabs already dominated this strategy long time ago. The traditional approach IS the correct one but there are other alternatives for the algorithm. Incorrect methods? Well if the result is IDENTICAL then there are more than one way to generate it. If there are parametric differences in the generated drawing then there is a significant difference in the generative algorithm.
The video illustrates the proof. However would be interesting how such ERROR is generated.
Traditional methods or original generating techniques are the preference, in my opinion. They evade simplistic interpretations.
Sir, at 5:50 you open the compass "a little more than half the distance." but this seems to make a big difference in the final outcome. I experimented three times and it ruins the overall proportion. Can you explain this? What should that compass setting be?
thank-you
Dear bluegrassbarry
The setting of the compass should not have any effect on the operation. The aim is to divide the distance between the middle of the square and the corner of the square into two equal parts. Please check your compass, sometimes the compass slight opens when you are using it without you noticing. And you end up drawing different size arcs, and you think they are the same size. It is very important to draw the arcs with the same radius exactly. If you have a screw in your compass, tighten the screw to prevent the compass from changing. I hope that would solve your problem.
Thank you
YES but I thought that you went on to use those two points to describe two of the layout lines. It was my mistake. thank you for these videos. very well done.
You are more than welcome my friend.
I did my research and i found that the mughal rulers had to draw one-fourth of the pattern alone and trace them to form the whole rosette because when they drew bigger full patterns, they would be proportional in small sizes but disproportional in larger ones.......therefore , when constructing a rosette to decorate palaces and madrassas , they had to draw only a part of the full rosette...the more you know.
He said in the previous video that the western method is incorrect... notice that the western method draws the full rosette rather than drawing only a part of it ehereas he is drawing only a part of the rosette and reapeating it....this repeating method is used to draw bigger rosettes rather than the smaller ones
Thank you
Amazing. Many many thanks.
Beautifully explained Sir thanks 👏🏻👌
Thank you Aditya Graphics, you can join my facebook group “Geometric Patterns Art School” for step by step tutorials on this link. facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
excellent
New subscriber. This is excellent!!! Thanks!
Thank you my friend
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this video is amazing...
I believe the drawings in the Topkapi Scroll prove your method is the historical method.
Thank you for sharing this on your Instagram!
would give anything to see the whole stack of pattern drawings.....unbelievable
Thank you for vidoes! Which software do you use?
thanks so much for this simple method. I paid for some courses but your way of creating pattern and teaching is best. PLEASE tell me how do you tessalate these patterns to make a bigger composition. I tried so many ways but none seem to be working. p!ease help
Using this method how can we mirror the quarter pattern in order to get a perfect complete pattern. Could you please mention that also. How to repeat this pattern using traditional method.
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are there any other points i can add to use as reference to increase the precision of the two lines created 8:04-8:37? thank you!
To improve your accuracy see this video.
th-cam.com/video/U1JhlbpV8rY/w-d-xo.html
Mindblown
Would like to see how you go aBout stitching them together. Jeremy
Hello, thank you very much for this very clear explanation. Would you be able to explain what is the westen way of drawing a pattern? When I look at westen construced patterns, they seem correct.
Yes, they might get some simple patterns correct. But when they try the complex patterns they could not do it correct. Some of the so called experts fail miserably, even the most basic patterns like Eric Broug. his books are full of errors.
What is now the best way to tile this to make the much larger pattern?
nice sharing!
It helps me a lot.
Thank you.
Thank you Jacki
Thanks for the wonderful videos, professor. Could you please post a video explaining how to build the patterns from Alhambra shown in this video?
Thank you Andrés Escobar, I am sorry to say that it not possible to do step by step with explanation for the pattern for Alhambra pattern because it is complicated pattern and it will take a long time. But I will make a quick animation in the future.
the stars are a bit asymmetrical still. Could the 5-pointed stars be made more symmetrical? Thank you.
Thank you my friend, the five pointed stars appear symmetrical only in fivefold patterns. And this a fourfold pattern, and symmetrical six pointed stars only appear in six fold patterns.
This one seems to be the basic pattern for many creations. Questions, do you think the original artists were able to scale up and down their patterns, we are able to do it so easily, and are there the original workings from these creations still around that gives some insight into how they went about creating them?
It’s a very good question Ray Moore, yes this is a basic pattern in its family. And all complicated fourfold patterns like the patterns from Alhambra and historical sites in Morocco depend on getting this pattern correct. And yes the original artists defiantly were able to scale the pattern up and down, because in this method you start with the square and not by drawing circles or polygons in an open space. And the scaling the square up and down will scale the pattern itself. I recently created a group on facbook to teach this subject, you can join the group if you like by following this link.
facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
Thank you for your reply, I have joined or favourited some of your face book groups, but have not yet investigated them. The different alternatives that you give to the base pattern here (11.14) must also arise out of geometric calculation, I tried creating them but my assumptions were wrong. And the resultant shapes did not conform. Do you discover the calculations, or are they already existent. موقع بوابة الخط العربي
Hello, just started looking at face book 'the school...' Group, seems to have a lot there, will start working through. I used to be a graphic artist, before computers, hand lettering, precision drawing and construction (commercial) so, consequently enjoy this process, plus have always had a fascination with Islamic art. Have visited Alhambra twice and spent many happy hours studying the various patterns, so it was a joy to find you.
Great, I think you will enjoy the work in the group. I started with the most simple pattern.
Yes they do, they are based on the same structure as the first one, some with very little addition to the base structure.
Hi, what is it exactly you call the western method? It is obvious yours is more balanced
Thanks a lot for the explanation! Could you please suggest me some good books so I can learn more about Islamic geometric pattern?
Dear friend, I am sorry to say that there is not a single book which deals properly with traditional Islamic geometric pattern. But you can join my Facebook for more tutorials.
facebook.com/groups/zakhrafa.school/
@@BawabatAlkhatAlarabi Why don't you write one? I think it's a great idea considering you have ample knowledge and experience with the traditional methods!
Dear Sumaiya Qureshi, I am in the process of doing so, it will be in Arabic, English and Turkish with step by step for almost 800 patterns.
@@BawabatAlkhatAlarabi That's great news!! Any estimate for when we can expect to buy it? Do you have a publisher signed? I'm so excited to buy it!
@@sumaiyaqureshi662 Sorry I can’t give you an estimated time, there are so many things involved in the process, translation, editing, proof reading and more. I will announce it when it’s ready.
hey wait! isnt the grid method useful for constructing domes and patterns thereupon?
So you took only one part of the circle.....Is it so?
send more videos
Having issue of pattern lining up
genius
i want to ask if we need advanced mathematic skill for create new paterns by ourself?
No my friend you do not need advance mathematics, all you need is some basic geometry, i.e. how to draw one line perpendicular on another, how to divide angles and good skill using compass and ruler.
and thank you for your comment..
موقع بوابة الخط العربي thanks for your answer. i had tried to make ones by following this video. its fun and a bit confusing 😂. is there any online resources i should read for basic knowledge?
Do not worry, it can be confusing at the beginning but you will get more confidence with practice. Have a look at the other videos on my channel.
th-cam.com/channels/liRTDLm_NFjzK-Ow1n1j8Q.html
subcribed :D! btw, would you explain method to add thickness to the final borders in your future video?
Bruh the umayyad mosque is in damascus, not aleppo😂
There is another Umayyad mosque in Aleppo, built in the 710s.
It's usually just called The Great Mosque of Aleppo though....
@@Wakobear. that's an imposter
architicture marocaine pas arabe
Thank you TOP FOOT, but it is not Moroccan geometry, it is Arabic geometry. Because this art evolved in Iraq, Syria and Egypt two hundred years before it arrived to Morocco.
Arabe
géometrie marocaine
Thank you TOP FOOT, but it is not Moroccan geometry, it is Arabic geometry. Because this art evolved in Iraq, Syria and Egypt two hundred years before it arrived to Morocco.
موقع بوابة الخط العربي هههه لكن الطريقة مختلفة يا اخي
عزيزي طارق ابن زياد ويوسف ابن تاشفين على العين والراس
موقع بوابة الخط العربي اخي لان ابنة عمتي عاشت عندكم و قالت لي كان المشارقة يكرهون كل ما هو مغربي و هم يعلمون ان المعمار نقل من المغرب للاندلس و ليس العكس و لا يودون اللعتراف اخي فن النقش و كل هذا فنون المسلمين اجمعين و كل واحد و طريقته مثلا فن الرسم على الخشب نعترف انها من سوريا لكن الطريقة جد مختلفة القفذان من كلمة خفتان لان العرب اخذوا من الفرس عدة كلمات كطربوش ات من سربوش لكن لباينا مختلف تماما
je suis d'accord avec toi c'est la viraité absolue c'est les marocains qui ont transférer l'architecture marocaine en andalousie et pas le contraire
Not sure why geometers go through the hassle of drawing a perfect square on a blank paper, when you can just use grid paper 🤔🤔
إنجليزية مريضة بالحمى