strong woman indeed. also, her love and desire to help her girlfriend gave her the strength and the will to go on. she wasn’t even thinking about her own injuries just focused on getting help for her lover. love is a very powerful force.
The human body is completely amazing in the amount of damage it can sustain and still continue to operate. She was truly meant to take down this monster
Yes indeed, remember the story of the one guy who was shot in the head…out of habit, he left a trail of blood thru out his morning routine…in front of the mirror but didn’t see his head shot, making coffee, getting the morning paper, etc…that’s the only way they could answer why his blood was everywhere 😳😬
@@MrsRobinson0741yes!!!! Also the case where a woman walked to find help while holding with hand across her stomach to hold in her organs and the other hand to hold her head up because her throat was cut!!!! She was found by a veterinarian who helped her while they waited something crazy like an hour for paramedics to reach them. She survived!!!!! It’s amazing!!!! Then you hear of others bleeding to death from a paper cut!!! Not really , but you know what I mean.
@@MrsRobinson0741Or the case of Allison Botha! She was stabbed dozens of times, disembowled, and nearly decapitated, yet somehow survived after being attacked by two men in South Africa. She had to hold her head up with her hands because her throat and neck muscles were so badly damaged. That's one of those cases where the victims will to live, and will to see their would-be murderer(s) punished, goes beyond what seems possible for a human body to survive. On one hand, our bodies seem so fragile, but on the other, we hear of these extraordinary cases that defy all medical knowledge. Anyway, I'm hours late to this thread, but if anyone wants another example of a truly heroic will to survive, you can't go wrong with researching Ms. Botha.
Just a heads up for anyone who’s ever injured - in many US states, if law-enforcement brings you to the hospital at their initiation, the state will cover the cost. Most states also have victim reimbursement funds that can help cover anything from a house fire to being harmed by a person.
Steven Roy Carr looks like a homosexual of that day, and I suspect his jealously of those two young women being able to live out their lives freely and his self-hatred from always pretending to hate homosexuals is what lead to him attacking them. From how many other cases where the facts beared this out, I do suspect that to be the truth. I also suspect he was a monstrous individual to begin with and that was 90% of the reason. The other reasons are likely only 10%, and why he chose them. It's sad when people in society won't treat humans as humans regardless of their innocent beliefs and innocent lifestyles. People say they hope certain guys are raped in prison, but for him I doubt they would.. because he surely would have liked it.
It's called DEBT/Credit takes a hit and now you're making payment! NO, you don't get a middle finger in the US if no insurance. Plus if you don't have any or cannot afford it, your state likely has a Gov supplemented insurance that is often better than most pay for basic insurance..! AND not only do you not need insurance, YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN! No the argument "No insurance, no Care" argument is nonsense Leftist Activist typical lie to emotionally manipulate those(the not so "deep" thinkers) listening...
I knew Stephen Roy Carr. I was a corrections officer in Virginia. We had an interstate compact with Pennsylvania for 2-3 years and he was one of about 1000 inmates that were sento my facility. He was a very strange individual. He had a cell to himself and would spend all day wrapped like a mummy in his blanket. He never had any property in his cell. He would carry on three or four part conversations, changing his voice to reply for each character. Very strange. He was required to have his hair short per grooming standards and always reminded me of Lurch from the Addams Family because he was very tall. He was very compliant and always did what he was told. He had his own cell because the other inmates were terrified of him eventhough he himself was a midel inmate. Weird as hell.
I've been in law enforcement since '97 & I've seen/heard/read so many tragic situations.Yet each time I watch you share these cases, you give these people names, faces, managing to make them human and not simply nameless people in another tragedy. You illicitly steal many tears and a lot of emotion from me... especially this one. You did superb work. Thank You.
The audacity of that murderer's lawyer's conduct was just as infuriating as the crime itself. Couldn't imagine the heartbreak and horror that poor girl went through.
Lawyers don't have to compromise themselves. They don't have to defend perverts and murderers. They do it by choice. How they can stand up there and brow beat victims is despicable in my opinion. I have no respect for that.
@diancourtright8036 that how our justice system works, whether you like it or not everyone has the right to legal counsel, now don't get me wrong...I question anyone who is willing to defend clearly guilty people like the useless guy in the story and try to get their sentences lessened but this is how society works unfortunately.
@donnell.okaforthere's plenty of crime to go around defending... They would be far from starving... Especially here in America, they most definitely wouldn't need to defend touchers or brutal sadistic murderers and still put plenty of food on the table...
Damn man. Really made me like these women before you started all the horror. I don't really want to finish this one, but I want to see this bastard face justice. As always, great storytelling, but man this one's hitting hard.
I was also really tempted to stop the video when they were making camp so they would live forever in my mind like that. But I guess that wouldn't do them justice. Im not happy I heard the rest of the story but I am glad I learned about what a strong survivor Claudia was and that the police had at least a few decent officers
It's nice to hear of a lead investigator doing his job and putting the victim first. Even in the corruption of the 1980s he chose to be on the right side of history.
"right side of history" 🙄 Please. There is no "right side of history". Only those who are victorious in conflict that write history. When I see "right side of history", I see cultish delusion and shared fantasies flailing against the indifference of reality.
Never comment much on videos but I feel compelled to tell you, you're my favorite true crime narrator and your videos are second to none, thank you for doing what you do good sir! You're amazing!
@@thisisMONSTERSyour compassion & empathy, dedication to the truth & what’s humanly right is very refreshing and ultimately comforting. the fact that you end all videos with information folks might not know about or realize they need is testament to your character being stellar. thank you.
One of your best videos yet. The amount of time you took just to let us get to know these two wonderful women is a testament to just how much you care for the victims of the tragedies you speak on. I really respect that about your videos and it’s upsetting how rare that amount of care and genuine empathy is within the true crime space!
agree w everything you said-jiles is the only TC creator i regularly keep up with because he remains informative while putting the victim first. while some other creators do that, sometimes it seems disingenuous (like thats what they’re doing because they’re “supposed to”); it always seems like jiles genuinely cares side note-is that nahobino in your pfp? thats awesome
I was just a kid, (born 1980) but there was a flamboyant kid in my class who based on how he acted very possibly ended up gay. he would be attacked often for a good month or two over it. We were kids we werent even sexual yet. I dont like much of what the left is doing with sexuality currently but obviously those bullies were wrong. I stopped them attacking him several times successfully and a few where I just got attacked worse than he did. We ended up friends for awhile after that. Sleepovers the whole thing. I liked rock type music though and he liked boy bands. eventually he just told me it wasnt working out lol. Im pretty sure I got dumped in a gay relationship before either of us had sexual thoughts.
@@PinePrince You are totally right. We all need to agree to disagree. And leave each other alone. Not everyone needs to accept those lifestyles, but neither side needs attacked for how they feel about it. Accept eachother as humans and leave eachother alone. Heck dont respect eachother if you dont want to. But leave eachother alone then go complain to friends.
33:21 - "Hey, that guy that's currently staying with my neighbors is the man who murdered those two women last week! I'd better call the authorities!! .....first thing tomorrow."
Americans say there are a lot of charities, but that's something we say so we can feel better when thousands of people go into debt because of medical emergencies. Most Americans are lucky enough to not realize how bad the system is, but seriously we go into pretty deep debt just for much needed emergency room visits.
@@benjaminasmus3980 I found lots of help with my medical bills since I got sick with a couple of immune system diseases. Never had an issue. You just have to dig around to find it. Clinics and hospitals will help you find them too. Mainly because they don't want to be left holding the bag. I have heard of a few charities that help victims, so I know they are out there.
That was beautifully done, thank you. By getting to know the victims before you even think about the crime you make it about them rather than the perpetrator. Such a heart-breaking story.
@@thisisMONSTERSI’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the esophagus is the tube leading to the stomach, and the trachea is the tube leading down to the lungs aka the breathing tube. Not sure if you meant trachea or were talking about the part before the two split but figured I’d let you know either way. Love the content btw, I’m a long time fan and paramedic. These fantastically detailed episodes have kept me company on some long ass 24 hr shifts lol. Keep up the good work man!
@@thisisMONSTERS I've consumed true crime content for a while now, but recently have become more aware of the respect given to the people involved in the cases, so I just want to say thank you and the team for being able to deliver this subtle humor while being respectful. I've been watching your videos since season one and love your content.
That defense attorney is a complete and utter scumbag... I don't know how some of them sleep at night especially knowing what they've done to aid someone who is completely guilty. I know everyone deserves a defense in the court system, BUT, it comes across as absolutely repulsive that they should be allowed to ask questions in the context that they do, sometimes!!! Bless Claudia for being so strong, had she not been, heaven only knows what the outcome would have been. Another EXCELLENT episode! ❤ from the Buckeye state 😉
I agree I may not agree with LGBTQ politics but I don't condone killing them it's sick and wrong I may disagree but I will accept for who they are what Stephen did is inexcusable and he deserves everything that comes to him also the defense took it too far this time no one deserves death no matter their sexuality those who are gay or lesbian are as human as the rest of us and deserve acceptance may Stephen rot in hell and his defense attorney get the scorn he deserves I hope Claudia is doing well and moving on with her life she deserves peace after all she's been through.
But it's something I'm not going to get further into to avoid hate but let's just say I'm conservative but I respect LGBTQ acceptance and support their cause in respect though I disagree politically they do deserve respect and equal rights I don't condone homophobia or transphobia from anyone and unfortunately some of my fellow conservatives are and give us a bad name. P.S sorry for the misinterpretation of my comment I meant that while I disagree with the community politically I respect their equal rights and acceptance I hope this clears things up a bit my apologies if it gave off the wrong message of me being homophobic which I want to be very clear I'm not and despise biased hatred against anyone no matter race gender religion or sexuality.
I am a gay male born in 1972 in Montana. A very scary time and place to be gay. A childhood of fear and constant bullying. By the age of 17 I had attempted suicide three times. Nearly succeeding the third time. Today I have social anxiety, PTSD and chronic depression. Stemming from how I was treated while growing up. Kids and even adults can be so cruel…. and to be at the receiving end of that cruelty is terrifying. I can’t express just how alone and hopeless I felt during those years of my life. Just looking at a school or being in one causes me to have a panic attack. Watching this brought it all back. When the picture of the killer’s lawyer was shown (while describing how he was interrogating the victim about her relationship and lifestyle) I felt I was looking at one of my homophobic teachers. Like looking satan in the eyes while he is smirking at you. 😨 My heart hurts for what these two ladies had to endure. It was such a scary time to be gay. I wished so badly that I could change who I was so I could be “normal”. So my dad (a football star from San Diego State University) would love me and be proud of me. So I could experience going to school without being heckled and whipped into corners with towels in gym class. Or even just to have friends. Attending school from kindergarten to 12th grade with no friends while trying to come to terms with how I was being treated was a living nightmare. I truly hope there might be a few people that watch this video and realize the fear, hate and trauma that those of us who are gay had to endure. 😔😢
I am so sorry. What you and so many others have gone and continue to go through is beyond words. I hope you can try to look back now and realize that anyone who had an issue with you then, mainly had an issue with themself. No normal, happy, functioning person needs to bring others down. ❤
Thank you for telling this story, Jiles. As a gay woman I feel seen and represented. I feel like the horrors that we have gone through and continue to fight through were made present in the retelling and I know you did Rebecca and Claudia proud. Thank you for being an ally 🏳️🌈
Gtfoh “seen and represented” you sound like a clown looking to make the situation about you as if you’re some freedom fighter or something simply for munching rug. 🤡🤣
@@csk1912 please don't try to tell me what experiences I have and have not gone through in my time being out as a gay woman 🥰 lgbtq+ people stand together, our struggles are one, respect it.
Wow. This is an invaluable, crucial lesson in queer history. Hearing things like the court wanted to normalize lesbianism and that cops had the opinion that everyone has a right to justice puts a welcome pin in a turning point on the way society was thinking and how this case helped reach the public. And my admiration for Claudia's strength and resilience is boundless. Being able to make it through all of that pressure and media circusing and still coming out on top. This was a horrendous tragedy, but she still deserves awe and thanks for her own part in making a point that queer people are still people. Amazingly powerful woman.
I'm from Europe and I'm always scratching my head about how you Americans are "treated" when it comes to medical conditions. Last fall i had a freak accident, breaking my shoulder three times. After all, all i had to pay was 20 bucks for the transport to the Hospital and a devise I had to put around my shoulder to keep it all together somehow. Here's hoping things will get better for you guys. Thanks for the great video as always^^
Yeah it's ridiculous...I saw a video on here (police body cam) where a u.s veteran was parked in his truck on the side of the road. He was hysterical and on the phone with the suicide hotline. The police officer tried calming him down and told him that he's gonna call for ambulance to bring him the hospital for a mental health evaluation, and his first and only reply was "No I can't, I can't afford that!" The fact that our vets suffering from suicidal thoughts, have to worry about how they can't afford treatment that could save their lives is disgusting. 😢 And then the cop told him. "If I bring you in than the state pays."
You get what u pay for.I would be happy to pay because many times i have had to buy the drugs on the streets from people who are given pills to get rid of them .Sad to say NHS is useful but private is best.I intend going private.
As the mom of 21 year old gay daughter, stories like this terrify me, shatter my heart and enrage me! Don’t like gay relationships? don’t get into one. It’s that simple. Claudia, your courage and fight for justice for your girlfriend, is beautiful. Rest in Peace, Rebecca. Sadly this fight for LGBTQIA rights continues and we will *NOT* back down 🏳️🌈
Believe me, this happens to hetero people as well, I wish you could open your mind and realize this shouldn't happen to anyone no matter what someone's sexual preference is.
@@spencerscott7386I doubt hetero people are targeted for expressing their sexual preference! The equivocation is unnecessary and takes away from the fear LBTQIA people (and their families) face. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
@@spencerscott7386your hate emboldens terrorists and murderers. You should be ashamed. Anyone reading this who thinks straight people are being hunted down FOR being straight, you are delusional. Straight people die all the time, not for being straight. Get therapy. Examine your hatred..be better..
To Anyone who wants an update! Stephen’s updated photo is found through google, and he still looks as horrendous now as he did then. Claudia wrote a book called eight bullets which I recommend reading.
Its rare the actual suspect looks so much worse in person than the police sketch! Great video , such a sad story,the girls were just getting their life together going and unfortunately came across this monster . 💜
Young man, would like you to know that your calm voice, choice of words and subject matter is what draws me to your channel. Thank you for your time and effort. Please continue your tireless work. Thank you.
Its a shame that their names werent even mentioned. People need to recognize the true heroes in such stories. People who acted beyond their obligations. Instead of lazy cops who can't even decide how to nab a single murderer in a professional way.
The way you explained their love was beautiful man.. really hit hard ❤️ this was a awful story and yes the murderer is a monster! Claudia and Rebecca should have had more time but he took her away 😢 i hope Claudia found some form of peace
Jiles I've been watching your channel for a while now, and whilst I am *consistently* impressed with the high standards you set in covering *all* the cases you pick for the channel, I think you've really outdone yourself on this one - the tact and sincerity you handled such divisive topics with LITERALLY makes me want to stand up and give you a standing ovation. Thank you for an incredibly emotional, impactful, and heartfelt viewing.
Americans seem badly deluded about it. The rest of the world sees it for what it is - "hey potential killer, i just came yo say a quick hello to you. You must be so lonely in these woods, let me give you company. Dont worry, there is no security, no police, no witness, no cameras, no medical or other aid of any kind. Please appreciate how much I have tried to work things in your favour. If all else fails, you can simply claim it to be an accidental shooting while out hunting".
Just wanted to say that as a Dutch viewer I really appreciate that you convert distances etc. to our metric system! It makes things much easier to visualise for me, so thank you! I'm a little too shaken by the story to write a coherent response to it, it just broke my heart and made me so so angry. Thank you for sharing Claudia and Rebecca's story with all of us.
So affected and heart broken by this story. As a lesbian I relate so hard to the fear of this sort of violence when I'm out and affectionate with my fiancee. People scare me. This stuff still happens. So tragic and unneccessary.
Literally so tragic and even more tragic that the judge let the defense talk to the victim like that. Ugh lesbian relationships have nothing to do with men, it’s not for your pleasure, it’s not to tease you, it’s not for you to look at at all I hate men that think that way.
Amen to every word you just said. They’re also the type to ask, “well, so who’s the dude in the relationship?” Like hey you dull baboon; there isn’t a dude - that’s the entire point.
Thank you so much Jiles for all of your hard work and dedication. I absolutely love every one of your Monster and somewhere sinister episodes, i never miss an episode and i really enjoy your longer videos the most! I just wanted to drop a comment to show my appreciation and love for all of your hard work! Its always nice when people credit and acknowledge all the details you put into each and every one of your videos, and as true Monster fans, we definitely notice your smooth vocal narrating abilities and how well you tell the story! It really means the world for some of us. Sometimes we just need an escape from reality and this is what does it ❤ thank you friend
I’m not religious. A knew man I greatly respected, who was religious, but was never pushy about it. His daughter committed suicide a few years ago and I never heard any indication as to why. This bothered me greatly for years, because I thought if this truly good man, who was married to a kind women, whose daughter won awards for volunteering, and who was a better parent than me as I saw it at the time, could kill herself, how could my children or anyone be safe? I found out recently she’d been sent to conversion therapy through their church. She had made a suicide attempt and was hospitalized for three days and tried again and succeeded within days of going back to her parents home. This is a religious town but I thought CONVERSION THERAPY? In the 2020s? here? This isn’t a tragic movie from 1985, how could this happen? How could HE allow his daughter to go there? I would have thought that this man would have outright rejected such a suggestion, religious or not, if I’d even been able to imagine such a situation occurring. But at least I’m no longer confused as to how the daughter of the “perfect” family could be driven to that end. 😢
@achrisdellopoulos They do too exist. I just watched the first hour and a half last night. It was very entertaining and at times silly even tho it's considered a Hollywood classic, maybe some of that good old fashioned p@#$%&%$#a? Props to the gander.
@BaDazai if you believe in the ten commandments then by all means keep believing, don't let others degrade you for your beliefs. Everyone has the right to their religion and their cultures. I do agree with your statement on the hypocrisy of the whole situation, the guy didn't sound like he had a whole lot of tools left in his toolbox ya know what I mean? Have a blessed day 🙏 ✨️ 💛
Giles, thank you so much for the way you delivered Rebecca and Claudia’s story. As a fellow lesbian, I truly appreciated you standing up for us and calling things out in the way that you did - humanizing us and our relationships. Unfortunately, I know of a case here in Texas that is all too similar to Claudia and Rebecca’s and that’s the story of Mollie Olgin & Kristene Chapa. I’ll leave it there because I’m a bit at a loss for words after this episode.
Just started to watch, but I wanted to take the time to tell you: even in Germany both of your channels/shows are loved dearly :) please keep on making those videos. btw your voice is great!
This is so tragic it hurts...and I am beyond disgusted at the defence lawyer. They really shouldn't be allowed to say and bring up such horrendous victim blaming points in a court of law.
@greenemic the DA also uses tactics similar to the defense to paint a picture of someone that could totally be a lie. It's court, it may be morally disgusting yeah but it's not just defense lawyers that do stuff like that
When I see your stories come on I know these are going to be through and very well researched, and I will take the time out of my day to sit and listen to these. Unfortunately most of these are very tragic, but they are learning experience for people has me so amazed and I also love your other channel to you. Please keep doing what you do to spread the word to help people and thank you for the information on about the domestic violence hotline and also for the LGBTQ community info I went through domestic violence and it was horrible. I was almost killed by my first husband when I was 14. Yes, I said 14. My mother made me marry him when I was 14 he was 19.
The way you present and lay down the facts of these topics that can be lets say... "controversial" is truly unmatched. The respect to the victims and the oppression that is intertwined in cases such as these is something you don't see from any other creator. Much love as always
It's ridiculous, me as a straight lady sympathy, my son is Gay, so I'm protect him and I don't deal with all this social media as some do, as long as I'm respected, I respect back, we are people 💯
@@apriljk6557lesbian here, i've been out since I was a child as well. and as a teacher i recently had a lesbian student in one of my 4th grade classes, it was quite moving to me that someone could openly say that without people reacting as though it's a pornographic word (which obviously is disgusting to suggest about a child anyway but that was my experience, people think it's hypersexual even if the person is presexual and it's only their romantic/crush orientation at that point). It's a lot better than it used to be, hopefully your daughter will be fine. My parents acting like gay people are gross I think made more of an impact on me than I thought, hopefully she'll be fine if she has you. Hopefully her other parent is also supportive. My strongest advice is to refrain from framing it as excessively adult or sexual.
I have a dear friend who still has to hide it from family because of being disowned. Breaks my heart!! I am straight and used to be very, very religious. I have changed so much from the box I was taught to be in. I have pissed off friends and relatives because I will post on FB and speak truths like how can someone judge others when they are having an affair, rape children, blah blah...those types of things. I've said just because you believe one way, others have a right to believe wtf they want. Anyway, all humans deserve to be respected, not harmed, and to pursue their life!! I also have a gay nephew by marriage and he's one of the best people I know! What happened to these ladies is horrible, and that lawyer of his is a POS!!
thank you for taking time to cover the details of their relationship outside the fact that they were in a relationship. they had equal feelings that any in love straight couple would have in this situation. as a gay person who was born in the 2000s, though there's still progress to be made, being reminded of what once was always breaks my heart and im so thankful for people like claudia brave enough to start the path to acceptance so this generation can finish it
Love your work i always look forward to new uploads...i listen to somewhere sinister on Google podcasts, great stories, great work thank you for your thorough and detailed information
Love watching your channel,but now that i can put a face to the voice it's even better,i appreciate the new format/style....as ive at least never seen a video with you or any pictures and ect in other content,but maybe im wrong? Either way i myself really enjoy this style of video. 👍🏻🙌🏻👌🏻💯✔️ And thank you for all your hard work!! 👏🏻👌🏻
Even if the women were purposefully having explicit sex in front of him (with, for some reason, was done purposefully to provoke him) , it *still* does not justify murder. That lawyer was purely trying to paint the two as sexual deviants. should have never been allowed back in a courtroom
He stalked these woman and decided to ambush them regardless if he would of saw them being intimate or not he stalked and tried to murder them both. My heart goes out to Claudia such a huge loss physically and mentally prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ive been watching your channel for years . How are you getting even BETTER at disseminating information , not offending a single soul and add your sense of humor for added spice ?! Great , great , great video bud . Thank you
I cant imagine the twisted horrific vile fear and confusion these innocent hikers faced at the hands of a maniacal single man determined to snuff out the warm glow of the beautiful innocent love story they shared.
I really appreciate that in every episode, not just this one, you include LGBTQ+ help lines. To me, little things like that that show support help normalize our community and show that others stand with us. For me, it helps me feel like there are those who care. Thank you for covering this tragic story and giving these women the respect they deserve. I would love to see you cover more LGBTQ+ cases as well as Native American, First Nations, etc stories. You always give the utmost respect while making the episodes compelling. I'd love to see cases that have rarely if ever been covered before to bring more attention to the victims and awareness to the disproportionate violence committed towards these communities. I only found your channel a few months ago, but you're already my favourite true crime channel. Plus, your openings are fantastic. Sinister's gives me True Detective vibes, it's so well done! Thanks for the work and care you put into every video!
Somewhere Sinister has an episode about the Highway of Tears in the first season and we’re currently on a season about the American Southwest so there will be a few more episodes centered about Native Americans.
Wow ! Most of the time when I see a composite sketch , I don’t think it looks like anyone , much less the guilty party. Not in this case!!!!! When the video switched from the sketch to the pic of Steven , I was shocked!!!!! It was spot on !!!!! Amazing! Great work on the video as always. This case was so heartbreaking. My sympathy to Rebecca’s loved ones. What a strong , amazing women Claudia is …. A true warrior!!!!
As someone who is queer, I usually actively avoid watching true crime content when it is evident that the victim(s) or perpetrator(s) fall under the LGBT+ umbrella, not because I can't stomach these cases, but because the vast majority of true crime content creators are simply incapable of discussing those things as elements of one's identity without espousing the same blatant homophobia and transphobia that has been peddled and normalized for centuries, or even excluding these things from the narrative in cases where they are absolutely relevant. I really really appreciate the way you covered this crime, and the emphasis placed on Claudia and Rebecca and covering their relationship with the respect and dignity it deserves.
Agree, and it doesn't help when they either ignore or promote comments that are just blatantly anti-LGBT and saying the victim had their death coming. As a lesbian I am happy to see this channel is not like that at all.
My sis is a lesbian. She is 49 years old. We did not know until she was grown. I shared a room with her so I had a feeling she was. Our family accepted it but my Dad would never talk about it. He still loved her but it changed their relationship. It kinda changed my feeling towards her. Then I realized she is the same person only now I know more about her. I love her very much. I did not realize how hard her life was. How much she had been hated by some and she lost straight friends. So glad my parents raised us to be accepting. 💜. She has been in a relationship for 10 years. She is happy and that is all that matters!! So glad this horrible monster was jailed. How could anyone say what he did was OK. He killed because he hated what he saw!! -If you don’t like what you see just move on!! -That is what we should teach our children. I feel horrible that she lost her partner. Everyone should be allowed happiness with whoever they choose!!💜
What a case, Jiles! I am used to extraordinary well researched content on here, but this one? One can tell the amount of work and compassion you are putting in your work! Thank you❤
As I started watching this I remembered that I had heard a radio program on npr about this story in the 90s. Claudia was talking about her book, Eight Bullets, about this experience. I had forgotten all about this story until now.
@@MultiMoo20As I recall from the radio show, Claudia was reading from the book and I remember that it was compelling. I am sure it would be a good book to read.
@Guadalupeacosta-eb7vk 0 seconds ago Same here!!! My twin brother is gay and its been my fear always!!! We're 45 now.Hes..settled down a tad and doesn't go clubbing as when we were young lol but still the fear is there regardless...
You should have a focus on security anyway. For yourself or your loved ones straight or gay or whatever. For your pets, neighbors and all. Now for the LGBTQ people it is getting more dangerous. That whole rainbow campaign is having a polarizing effect and is therefore a failure. Research bears this out no matter what the flag wavers tell you. LGBTQ people should not have the illusion that it is going to get safer by campaigning harder. Be careful.
This showed upright after gay pride here in Iceland. Well done on the video. Fkd up how the defence lawyer acted and the life view of the killer is infuriating, hope we've come some way since.
Humanity’s disregard and disrespect for fellow humans is devastating. As a POC, LGBTQ+, and a woman…I’m truly terrified to be on my own in this world. I’m past old enough but I’m so scared when I’m not in my own space. Even then, I’m never truly safe.
@@warehousedave7937 2 men who could just shut their mouths and move on with their day. Just have to stop by with "jokes". You parents ever teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all" or were they too obsessed in filling you losers with insecurities?
she got shot multiple times in the head and hiked for over 3 hours?
sweet jesus. that's one hell of a strong woman.
strong woman indeed. also, her love and desire to help her girlfriend gave her the strength and the will to go on. she wasn’t even thinking about her own injuries just focused on getting help for her lover. love is a very powerful force.
@@ItsNeverAManequinthe contrast between hate and love in this story...
Surreal. She is amazing. I'm so sorry she had to have her strength tested that way.
he was broke, had no home or even bed and yet he’s worried about lesbians…you can’t make it up lol
What would he have done if it'd been two blokes going at it?
@@sandgrownun66 probably fallen over and died from shock!!
@@flossa1960 Well, that would have been a better outcome.
@@saturationstation1446 I don't understand your question. It's also four months since I watched this video.
I mean, it makes sense😂
The human body is completely amazing in the amount of damage it can sustain and still continue to operate. She was truly meant to take down this monster
That's an amazing comment. ✨👌✨✌️
Yes indeed, remember the story of the one guy who was shot in the head…out of habit, he left a trail of blood thru out his morning routine…in front of the mirror but didn’t see his head shot, making coffee, getting the morning paper, etc…that’s the only way they could answer why his blood was everywhere 😳😬
@@MrsRobinson0741I remember that one, so sad.
@@MrsRobinson0741yes!!!! Also the case where a woman walked to find help while holding with hand across her stomach to hold in her organs and the other hand to hold her head up because her throat was cut!!!! She was found by a veterinarian who helped her while they waited something crazy like an hour for paramedics to reach them. She survived!!!!! It’s amazing!!!!
Then you hear of others bleeding to death from a paper cut!!! Not really , but you know what I mean.
@@MrsRobinson0741Or the case of Allison Botha! She was stabbed dozens of times, disembowled, and nearly decapitated, yet somehow survived after being attacked by two men in South Africa. She had to hold her head up with her hands because her throat and neck muscles were so badly damaged. That's one of those cases where the victims will to live, and will to see their would-be murderer(s) punished, goes beyond what seems possible for a human body to survive. On one hand, our bodies seem so fragile, but on the other, we hear of these extraordinary cases that defy all medical knowledge. Anyway, I'm hours late to this thread, but if anyone wants another example of a truly heroic will to survive, you can't go wrong with researching Ms. Botha.
Just a heads up for anyone who’s ever injured - in many US states, if law-enforcement brings you to the hospital at their initiation, the state will cover the cost. Most states also have victim reimbursement funds that can help cover anything from a house fire to being harmed by a person.
Thank you, for the 411. I appreciate you for that.🌹
Steven Roy Carr looks like a homosexual of that day, and I suspect his jealously of those two young women being able to live out their lives freely and his self-hatred from always pretending to hate homosexuals is what lead to him attacking them.
From how many other cases where the facts beared this out, I do suspect that to be the truth. I also suspect he was a monstrous individual to begin with and that was 90% of the reason. The other reasons are likely only 10%, and why he chose them.
It's sad when people in society won't treat humans as humans regardless of their innocent beliefs and innocent lifestyles.
People say they hope certain guys are raped in prison, but for him I doubt they would.. because he surely would have liked it.
40:50 that was the best dig ever at the defense attorney.. bigtime kudos to This is Monsters
It's called DEBT/Credit takes a hit and now you're making payment!
NO, you don't get a middle finger in the US if no insurance. Plus if you don't have any or cannot afford it, your state likely has a Gov supplemented insurance that is often better than most pay for basic insurance..! AND not only do you not need insurance, YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN!
No the argument "No insurance, no Care" argument is nonsense Leftist Activist typical lie to emotionally manipulate those(the not so "deep" thinkers) listening...
@@jonslg240 No one, of any gender, "likes" getting raped.
Claudia is a hero. What an admirable woman! Her story brought me to tears, I hope she has found happiness in her life.
I knew Stephen Roy Carr. I was a corrections officer in Virginia. We had an interstate compact with Pennsylvania for 2-3 years and he was one of about 1000 inmates that were sento my facility. He was a very strange individual. He had a cell to himself and would spend all day wrapped like a mummy in his blanket. He never had any property in his cell. He would carry on three or four part conversations, changing his voice to reply for each character. Very strange. He was required to have his hair short per grooming standards and always reminded me of Lurch from the Addams Family because he was very tall. He was very compliant and always did what he was told. He had his own cell because the other inmates were terrified of him eventhough he himself was a midel inmate. Weird as hell.
Thank you for always covering these cases and the victims with the respect they deserve. Absolutely one of your finest.
the case took place in the 80s lol@@scummymummy2548
@@scummymummy2548Ok! Sure! Keep telling yourself that scummy!
This happened in the 80's can't blame it on Trump
Such a gentle and kind approach taken in this story. I appreciate the caring tone of this program.
@@scummymummy2548what lmao?! Homophobes existed as soon as gays existed. Has nothing to do with politics or trump 🙄
I've been in law enforcement since '97 & I've seen/heard/read so many tragic situations.Yet each time I watch you share these cases, you give these people names, faces, managing to make them human and not simply nameless people in another tragedy. You illicitly steal many tears and a lot of emotion from me... especially this one.
You did superb work.
Thank You.
Thanks so much. It means a lot.
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@@spasticfurchildGoogle it…enrich your mind 💡
@@spasticfurchild They're a police officer. They don't get paid to be smart.
I love that the law enforcement officer can't help but frame this as a crime lol. Its true, many illicit tears shed.
The audacity of that murderer's lawyer's conduct was just as infuriating as the crime itself. Couldn't imagine the heartbreak and horror that poor girl went through.
Lawyers don't have to compromise themselves. They don't have to defend perverts and murderers. They do it by choice. How they can stand up there and brow beat victims is despicable in my opinion. I have no respect for that.
@@diancourtright8036I second this!
@diancourtright8036 that how our justice system works, whether you like it or not everyone has the right to legal counsel, now don't get me wrong...I question anyone who is willing to defend clearly guilty people like the useless guy in the story and try to get their sentences lessened but this is how society works unfortunately.
And that's why lawyers are scum.
@donnell.okaforthere's plenty of crime to go around defending... They would be far from starving... Especially here in America, they most definitely wouldn't need to defend touchers or brutal sadistic murderers and still put plenty of food on the table...
Damn man. Really made me like these women before you started all the horror.
I don't really want to finish this one, but I want to see this bastard face justice.
As always, great storytelling, but man this one's hitting hard.
Lol 😂 Zoro. Why am I NOT surprised?!?!? Only breaking balls. Hope you well!!!
I was also really tempted to stop the video when they were making camp so they would live forever in my mind like that. But I guess that wouldn't do them justice. Im not happy I heard the rest of the story but I am glad I learned about what a strong survivor Claudia was and that the police had at least a few decent officers
I said the same thing! When he said it turned deadly I was like “oh no I really like these girls”
Love your videos too
It's nice to hear of a lead investigator doing his job and putting the victim first. Even in the corruption of the 1980s he chose to be on the right side of history.
"right side of history"
🙄 Please.
There is no "right side of history". Only those who are victorious in conflict that write history.
When I see "right side of history", I see cultish delusion and shared fantasies flailing against the indifference of reality.
I completely agree with ALL you've said.
If anything, corruption is even worse these days.
No such thing as the right side of history. That's a silly political catch phrase.
@@jeffreypierce1440’tHeRe’S nO SuCh ThInG’ 🙄
What makes this worth watching is the absence of story book drama. The words are describing real events.
Never comment much on videos but I feel compelled to tell you, you're my favorite true crime narrator and your videos are second to none, thank you for doing what you do good sir! You're amazing!
Thanks so much. I appreciate it!
Comments get the video up the algorithm chain so I always do comment on favourite creator's videos for that very reason.
I echo this comment. 🙏🏼
so true!
@@thisisMONSTERSyour compassion & empathy, dedication to the truth & what’s humanly right is very refreshing and ultimately comforting. the fact that you end all videos with information folks might not know about or realize they need is testament to your character being stellar. thank you.
One of your best videos yet. The amount of time you took just to let us get to know these two wonderful women is a testament to just how much you care for the victims of the tragedies you speak on. I really respect that about your videos and it’s upsetting how rare that amount of care and genuine empathy is within the true crime space!
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agree w everything you said-jiles is the only TC creator i regularly keep up with because he remains informative while putting the victim first. while some other creators do that, sometimes it seems disingenuous (like thats what they’re doing because they’re “supposed to”); it always seems like jiles genuinely cares
side note-is that nahobino in your pfp? thats awesome
Could not have said this better! 🕊
I was in my teens in the 80s. The hate towards "gay" people was real. It's sad.. it is no one elses business what your sexual preference is.
I appreciate that. 🩷
I was just a kid, (born 1980) but there was a flamboyant kid in my class who based on how he acted very possibly ended up gay. he would be attacked often for a good month or two over it. We were kids we werent even sexual yet. I dont like much of what the left is doing with sexuality currently but obviously those bullies were wrong. I stopped them attacking him several times successfully and a few where I just got attacked worse than he did. We ended up friends for awhile after that. Sleepovers the whole thing. I liked rock type music though and he liked boy bands. eventually he just told me it wasnt working out lol. Im pretty sure I got dumped in a gay relationship before either of us had sexual thoughts.
Good . I agree. That’s why it shouldn’t be shoved down the throats of people who never asked.
@@PinePrince You are totally right. We all need to agree to disagree. And leave each other alone. Not everyone needs to accept those lifestyles, but neither side needs attacked for how they feel about it. Accept eachother as humans and leave eachother alone. Heck dont respect eachother if you dont want to. But leave eachother alone then go complain to friends.
@Pineappleprince444 personally I'm really tired of having the straight lifestyle shoved down my throat everyday. I never asked 😘
33:21 - "Hey, that guy that's currently staying with my neighbors is the man who murdered those two women last week! I'd better call the authorities!! .....first thing tomorrow."
My heart breaks for Claudia. It’s all so wrong!
Aren’t their charities & victims aide for people in her medical situation now?
I’m British. The insurance system in the USA seems so wrong!
@@suzimonkey345 There are now. I don't know if there was back then.
@@Sweetyhide not as much then, much more now. ❤
Americans say there are a lot of charities, but that's something we say so we can feel better when thousands of people go into debt because of medical emergencies. Most Americans are lucky enough to not realize how bad the system is, but seriously we go into pretty deep debt just for much needed emergency room visits.
@@benjaminasmus3980 I found lots of help with my medical bills since I got sick with a couple of immune system diseases. Never had an issue. You just have to dig around to find it. Clinics and hospitals will help you find them too. Mainly because they don't want to be left holding the bag.
I have heard of a few charities that help victims, so I know they are out there.
That was beautifully done, thank you. By getting to know the victims before you even think about the crime you make it about them rather than the perpetrator. Such a heart-breaking story.
40:57
I appreciate the subtle adult humor you deliver in your episodes.
I accidentally discovered this channel and I'm so glad I did.
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Thanks for watching!
@@thisisMONSTERSI’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the esophagus is the tube leading to the stomach, and the trachea is the tube leading down to the lungs aka the breathing tube. Not sure if you meant trachea or were talking about the part before the two split but figured I’d let you know either way. Love the content btw, I’m a long time fan and paramedic. These fantastically detailed episodes have kept me company on some long ass 24 hr shifts lol. Keep up the good work man!
@@thisisMONSTERS I've consumed true crime content for a while now, but recently have become more aware of the respect given to the people involved in the cases, so I just want to say thank you and the team for being able to deliver this subtle humor while being respectful. I've been watching your videos since season one and love your content.
That defense attorney is a complete and utter scumbag... I don't know how some of them sleep at night especially knowing what they've done to aid someone who is completely guilty. I know everyone deserves a defense in the court system, BUT, it comes across as absolutely repulsive that they should be allowed to ask questions in the context that they do, sometimes!!! Bless Claudia for being so strong, had she not been, heaven only knows what the outcome would have been. Another EXCELLENT episode! ❤ from the Buckeye state 😉
I agree I may not agree with LGBTQ politics but I don't condone killing them it's sick and wrong I may disagree but I will accept for who they are what Stephen did is inexcusable and he deserves everything that comes to him also the defense took it too far this time no one deserves death no matter their sexuality those who are gay or lesbian are as human as the rest of us and deserve acceptance may Stephen rot in hell and his defense attorney get the scorn he deserves I hope Claudia is doing well and moving on with her life she deserves peace after all she's been through.
@@Spider-Fan006politics? What are you talking about?
@@rationallyruby you know what I'm talking about.
But it's something I'm not going to get further into to avoid hate but let's just say I'm conservative but I respect LGBTQ acceptance and support their cause in respect though I disagree politically they do deserve respect and equal rights I don't condone homophobia or transphobia from anyone and unfortunately some of my fellow conservatives are and give us a bad name. P.S sorry for the misinterpretation of my comment I meant that while I disagree with the community politically I respect their equal rights and acceptance I hope this clears things up a bit my apologies if it gave off the wrong message of me being homophobic which I want to be very clear I'm not and despise biased hatred against anyone no matter race gender religion or sexuality.
The defense attorney was doing his job
I am a gay male born in 1972 in Montana. A very scary time and place to be gay. A childhood of fear and constant bullying. By the age of 17 I had attempted suicide three times. Nearly succeeding the third time. Today I have social anxiety, PTSD and chronic depression. Stemming from how I was treated while growing up. Kids and even adults can be so cruel…. and to be at the receiving end of that cruelty is terrifying. I can’t express just how alone and hopeless I felt during those years of my life. Just looking at a school or being in one causes me to have a panic attack. Watching this brought it all back. When the picture of the killer’s lawyer was shown (while describing how he was interrogating the victim about her relationship and lifestyle) I felt I was looking at one of my homophobic teachers. Like looking satan in the eyes while he is smirking at you. 😨 My heart hurts for what these two ladies had to endure. It was such a scary time to be gay. I wished so badly that I could change who I was so I could be “normal”. So my dad (a football star from San Diego State University) would love me and be proud of me. So I could experience going to school without being heckled and whipped into corners with towels in gym class. Or even just to have friends. Attending school from kindergarten to 12th grade with no friends while trying to come to terms with how I was being treated was a living nightmare. I truly hope there might be a few people that watch this video and realize the fear, hate and trauma that those of us who are gay had to endure. 😔😢
Hugs to you man, stay strong. And if it means anything, I'm glad you're still here.
💖🙏🌹So very sorry you had to endure so much.
@@GeologicalNerd Thank you. I appreciate it.
@@vickiekasafirek9096 Thank you. I am sitting here with tears streaming down my face. Your kind, understanding words are comforting. 💕
I am so sorry. What you and so many others have gone and continue to go through is beyond words. I hope you can try to look back now and realize that anyone who had an issue with you then, mainly had an issue with themself. No normal, happy, functioning person needs to bring others down. ❤
Thank you for telling this story, Jiles. As a gay woman I feel seen and represented. I feel like the horrors that we have gone through and continue to fight through were made present in the retelling and I know you did Rebecca and Claudia proud. Thank you for being an ally 🏳️🌈
Gtfoh “seen and represented” you sound like a clown looking to make the situation about you as if you’re some freedom fighter or something simply for munching rug. 🤡🤣
@@gregw322 you're so mad it's so funny
@@v0canon says the clown that left FOUR different angry comments on this one video. Forgot that I could see your livid comments huh? You mad! 🫵🤣😉🤡
They have gone through**
@@csk1912 please don't try to tell me what experiences I have and have not gone through in my time being out as a gay woman 🥰 lgbtq+ people stand together, our struggles are one, respect it.
What a sad one. Claudia is really strong and brave, but I wish she never had to go through this.
I’ll never tire of your voice and unique inflection. Thanks for keeping me company 👍
Wow. This is an invaluable, crucial lesson in queer history. Hearing things like the court wanted to normalize lesbianism and that cops had the opinion that everyone has a right to justice puts a welcome pin in a turning point on the way society was thinking and how this case helped reach the public. And my admiration for Claudia's strength and resilience is boundless. Being able to make it through all of that pressure and media circusing and still coming out on top. This was a horrendous tragedy, but she still deserves awe and thanks for her own part in making a point that queer people are still people. Amazingly powerful woman.
@@NickyBlue99nobody wants your kids put that same energy towards priests
Are you a carpet muncher too?
It's amazing how so many people are so hurt about what two consenting adults do in their bedroom¡🌈👬👭🤯
@@NickyBlue99 Where did Claudia and Rebecca have anything to do with kids?? Did I miss something?
@@tannern5352he’s being a homophobic piece of shit. A monster.
I'm from Europe and I'm always scratching my head about how you Americans are "treated" when it comes to medical conditions. Last fall i had a freak accident, breaking my shoulder three times. After all, all i had to pay was 20 bucks for the transport to the Hospital and a devise I had to put around my shoulder to keep it all together somehow.
Here's hoping things will get better for you guys. Thanks for the great video as always^^
Yeah it's ridiculous...I saw a video on here (police body cam) where a u.s veteran was parked in his truck on the side of the road. He was hysterical and on the phone with the suicide hotline. The police officer tried calming him down and told him that he's gonna call for ambulance to bring him the hospital for a mental health evaluation, and his first and only reply was "No I can't, I can't afford that!" The fact that our vets suffering from suicidal thoughts, have to worry about how they can't afford treatment that could save their lives is disgusting. 😢 And then the cop told him. "If I bring you in than the state pays."
And btw an ambulance ride to the hospital is over $400. Atleast that's what mine was on my bill, and I HAVE INSURANCE.
You get what u pay for.I would be happy to pay because many times i have had to buy the drugs on the streets from people who are given pills to get rid of them .Sad to say NHS is useful but private is best.I intend going private.
As the mom of 21 year old gay daughter, stories like this terrify me, shatter my heart and enrage me! Don’t like gay relationships? don’t get into one. It’s that simple. Claudia, your courage and fight for justice for your girlfriend, is beautiful. Rest in Peace, Rebecca. Sadly this fight for LGBTQIA rights continues and we will *NOT* back down 🏳️🌈
Believe me, this happens to hetero people as well, I wish you could open your mind and realize this shouldn't happen to anyone no matter what someone's sexual preference is.
@@spencerscott7386I doubt hetero people are targeted for expressing their sexual preference! The equivocation is unnecessary and takes away from the fear LBTQIA people (and their families) face. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
@@spencerscott7386 reported for extreme bigotry
@@spencerscott7386your hate emboldens terrorists and murderers. You should be ashamed. Anyone reading this who thinks straight people are being hunted down FOR being straight, you are delusional. Straight people die all the time, not for being straight. Get therapy. Examine your hatred..be better..
@@spencerscott7386obviously. but this couple was clearly targeted for their sexual orientations. the shooter expressed this in the trial.
Claudia is an amazing woman. Her courage and perseverance is a shining example to women everywhere. I look forward to reading Eight Bullets.
You are an amazing narrator, much more genuine then most I’ve watched previously. Keep up the good work ❤
He's not over dramatic which a lot of narrators in this genre are.
To Anyone who wants an update! Stephen’s updated photo is found through google, and he still looks as horrendous now as he did then. Claudia wrote a book called eight bullets which I recommend reading.
Good lord he truly looks nasty, like the evil inside him deformed him 🤢
Its rare the actual suspect looks so much worse in person than the police sketch!
Great video , such a sad story,the girls were just getting their life together going and unfortunately came across this monster . 💜
I wonder if he has some sort of deformity, mb fetal alcohol syndrome or something?
@@saddlebagz69 possibly x
Young man, would like you to know that your calm voice, choice of words and subject matter is what draws me to your channel. Thank you for your time and effort. Please continue your tireless work. Thank you.
Thank goodness for the two teenage boys who were willing and able to take Claudia to the hospital ❤
Its a shame that their names werent even mentioned. People need to recognize the true heroes in such stories. People who acted beyond their obligations. Instead of lazy cops who can't even decide how to nab a single murderer in a professional way.
The way you explained their love was beautiful man.. really hit hard ❤️ this was a awful story and yes the murderer is a monster!
Claudia and Rebecca should have had more time but he took her away 😢 i hope Claudia found some form of peace
Well done, Jiles. A horrible tragic event told with great understanding for the survivor and the families.
Agreed ❤ Thank you for this comment.
My heart goes out to Claudia because of everything she endured. I admire her resilience & wish her the best.
Jiles I've been watching your channel for a while now, and whilst I am *consistently* impressed with the high standards you set in covering *all* the cases you pick for the channel, I think you've really outdone yourself on this one - the tact and sincerity you handled such divisive topics with LITERALLY makes me want to stand up and give you a standing ovation. Thank you for an incredibly emotional, impactful, and heartfelt viewing.
The Appalachian trail - strikes fear into my heart. 😬
Americans seem badly deluded about it. The rest of the world sees it for what it is - "hey potential killer, i just came yo say a quick hello to you. You must be so lonely in these woods, let me give you company. Dont worry, there is no security, no police, no witness, no cameras, no medical or other aid of any kind. Please appreciate how much I have tried to work things in your favour. If all else fails, you can simply claim it to be an accidental shooting while out hunting".
Good afternoon from Australia, absolutely love your channel!!
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Just wanted to say that as a Dutch viewer I really appreciate that you convert distances etc. to our metric system! It makes things much easier to visualise for me, so thank you!
I'm a little too shaken by the story to write a coherent response to it, it just broke my heart and made me so so angry.
Thank you for sharing Claudia and Rebecca's story with all of us.
He's now living in Holland,so it's something he's had to acclimate to.
I've lived overseas 20 years and I'm not used to the metric system yet.l
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Everyone get your blankets, flashlight, & snacks!🔦🍿🏕
Yay 🎉🎉🎉
Hou rrah
It's true, it's true! That's exactly what I thought. 😊
Favorite crime channel on TH-cam hands down thanks for all your hard work 💪
So affected and heart broken by this story. As a lesbian I relate so hard to the fear of this sort of violence when I'm out and affectionate with my fiancee. People scare me. This stuff still happens. So tragic and unneccessary.
Stay strong, stay safe from the loonies out there
Tragic. What a defect in life wish someone had returned him to the factory for a prompt replacement.
Good Morning from New Jersey Jiles and fellow Monsters Maniacs ❤ Thank you for always making my morning and day. You're the best 💯🥰
Good morning to you @krissikolln6646 from Ontario Canada Peace to you fellow Monster Maniac
Good morning y’all! From south Louisiana
Literally so tragic and even more tragic that the judge let the defense talk to the victim like that. Ugh lesbian relationships have nothing to do with men, it’s not for your pleasure, it’s not to tease you, it’s not for you to look at at all I hate men that think that way.
Amen to every word you just said. They’re also the type to ask, “well, so who’s the dude in the relationship?” Like hey you dull baboon; there isn’t a dude - that’s the entire point.
Preach.
Too right. I'm sick of pervy men using lesbians as sexual objects. They also don't know what no means either
Thank you so much Jiles for all of your hard work and dedication. I absolutely love every one of your Monster and somewhere sinister episodes, i never miss an episode and i really enjoy your longer videos the most! I just wanted to drop a comment to show my appreciation and love for all of your hard work! Its always nice when people credit and acknowledge all the details you put into each and every one of your videos, and as true Monster fans, we definitely notice your smooth vocal narrating abilities and how well you tell the story! It really means the world for some of us. Sometimes we just need an escape from reality and this is what does it ❤ thank you friend
@schrisdellopoulos9244 I'd rather not , I'm busy being a mother and I lost my best friend a year ago so take your comment and shove it up your ass.
@@schrisdellopoulos9244and you would know this about Jiles how?
I’m not religious. A knew man I greatly respected, who was religious, but was never pushy about it. His daughter committed suicide a few years ago and I never heard any indication as to why. This bothered me greatly for years, because I thought if this truly good man, who was married to a kind women, whose daughter won awards for volunteering, and who was a better parent than me as I saw it at the time, could kill herself, how could my children or anyone be safe?
I found out recently she’d been sent to conversion therapy through their church. She had made a suicide attempt and was hospitalized for three days and tried again and succeeded within days of going back to her parents home. This is a religious town but I thought CONVERSION THERAPY? In the 2020s? here? This isn’t a tragic movie from 1985, how could this happen? How could HE allow his daughter to go there? I would have thought that this man would have outright rejected such a suggestion, religious or not, if I’d even been able to imagine such a situation occurring.
But at least I’m no longer confused as to how the daughter of the “perfect” family could be driven to that end. 😢
He calls lesbians evil meanwhile he killed someone and robbed elderly women, 4 sins that are in the 10 commandments. The hypocrisy 🤬🤬
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@achrisdellopoulos They do too exist. I just watched the first hour and a half last night. It was very entertaining and at times silly even tho it's considered a Hollywood classic, maybe some of that good old fashioned p@#$%&%$#a? Props to the gander.
@BaDazai if you believe in the ten commandments then by all means keep believing, don't let others degrade you for your beliefs. Everyone has the right to their religion and their cultures. I do agree with your statement on the hypocrisy of the whole situation, the guy didn't sound like he had a whole lot of tools left in his toolbox ya know what I mean? Have a blessed day 🙏 ✨️ 💛
Lesbians are evil though.
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 and what's your issue with stories? 🤔
Giles, thank you so much for the way you delivered Rebecca and Claudia’s story. As a fellow lesbian, I truly appreciated you standing up for us and calling things out in the way that you did - humanizing us and our relationships. Unfortunately, I know of a case here in Texas that is all too similar to Claudia and Rebecca’s and that’s the story of Mollie Olgin & Kristene Chapa. I’ll leave it there because I’m a bit at a loss for words after this episode.
So saddened by this story. Two very beautiful people starting their life together and destroyed by such low life. I wish the survivor all good things.
Just started to watch, but I wanted to take the time to tell you: even in Germany both of your channels/shows are loved dearly :)
please keep on making those videos.
btw your voice is great!
Totally horrific story, but you still made me laugh when you spared a thought for the wife of the lawyer who needed an explanation of cunnilingus!
Yeah, that was great!!! Classic Jiles! 😂
This is so tragic it hurts...and I am beyond disgusted at the defence lawyer. They really shouldn't be allowed to say and bring up such horrendous victim blaming points in a court of law.
It goes both ways
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What exactly goes "both ways"?!
@greenemic the DA also uses tactics similar to the defense to paint a picture of someone that could totally be a lie. It's court, it may be morally disgusting yeah but it's not just defense lawyers that do stuff like that
It´s their job. You´ll be glad of it if you´re one day in court and in need of a lawyer.
@@mypud4068bOtH sIdEs!!!
When I see your stories come on I know these are going to be through and very well researched, and I will take the time out of my day to sit and listen to these. Unfortunately most of these are very tragic, but they are learning experience for people has me so amazed and I also love your other channel to you. Please keep doing what you do to spread the word to help people and thank you for the information on about the domestic violence hotline and also for the LGBTQ community info I went through domestic violence and it was horrible. I was almost killed by my first husband when I was 14. Yes, I said 14. My mother made me marry him when I was 14 he was 19.
So sorry you had to go through that at such a young ago 😞 I hope you are okay now and able to be happy. Horrible trauma.
The way you present and lay down the facts of these topics that can be lets say... "controversial" is truly unmatched. The respect to the victims and the oppression that is intertwined in cases such as these is something you don't see from any other creator. Much love as always
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching!
As a fellow lesbian ..this...this one broke me in a way I've never felt...these poor girls...
It's ridiculous, me as a straight lady sympathy, my son is Gay, so I'm protect him and I don't deal with all this social media as some do, as long as I'm respected, I respect back, we are people 💯
My daughter is a lesbian and she's a child still. This is terrifyingly heartbreaking.
@@apriljk6557lesbian here, i've been out since I was a child as well. and as a teacher i recently had a lesbian student in one of my 4th grade classes, it was quite moving to me that someone could openly say that without people reacting as though it's a pornographic word (which obviously is disgusting to suggest about a child anyway but that was my experience, people think it's hypersexual even if the person is presexual and it's only their romantic/crush orientation at that point). It's a lot better than it used to be, hopefully your daughter will be fine. My parents acting like gay people are gross I think made more of an impact on me than I thought, hopefully she'll be fine if she has you. Hopefully her other parent is also supportive. My strongest advice is to refrain from framing it as excessively adult or sexual.
I have a dear friend who still has to hide it from family because of being disowned. Breaks my heart!! I am straight and used to be very, very religious. I have changed so much from the box I was taught to be in. I have pissed off friends and relatives because I will post on FB and speak truths like how can someone judge others when they are having an affair, rape children, blah blah...those types of things. I've said just because you believe one way, others have a right to believe wtf they want. Anyway, all humans deserve to be respected, not harmed, and to pursue their life!! I also have a gay nephew by marriage and he's one of the best people I know! What happened to these ladies is horrible, and that lawyer of his is a POS!!
Please let's not talk about children's sexual orientation I have reported these comments to TH-cam.
Why don’t you have over 1M subs? You deserve it!
Love it when I wake up and there's an hour long TIM episode ready 🙌🏻
thank you for taking time to cover the details of their relationship outside the fact that they were in a relationship. they had equal feelings that any in love straight couple would have in this situation. as a gay person who was born in the 2000s, though there's still progress to be made, being reminded of what once was always breaks my heart and im so thankful for people like claudia brave enough to start the path to acceptance so this generation can finish it
You dont even know how much I love your show. You're so respectful and truely do justice for the victims.
Thank you for telling this tragic story respectfully. It means a lot to a lot of people.
The creepy guy would have ruined it for me. How could they not have been paranoid.
Yeah I would not have felt safe camping that night, would have straight went home
Must have really needed some "@lone" time
Love your work i always look forward to new uploads...i listen to somewhere sinister on Google podcasts, great stories, great work thank you for your thorough and detailed information
Love watching your channel,but now that i can put a face to the voice it's even better,i appreciate the new format/style....as ive at least never seen a video with you or any pictures and ect in other content,but maybe im wrong? Either way i myself really enjoy this style of video. 👍🏻🙌🏻👌🏻💯✔️ And thank you for all your hard work!! 👏🏻👌🏻
It's been like this for a while now. Honestly, though, I don't know why more channels are showing the narrator's face now. It's really not necessary.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin I kind of prefer the mystery of not knowing what the narrator looks like.
He’s so handsome!
Scary looking guy, I would have freaked out if he walked up out of the woods.
Thank you Jiles, for giving these women’s story a voice. I hope Claudia is doing better today ❤
What a horrific experience for these girls. Very tragic. The monster looks like one too. Pleased he was caught
Best channel on TH-cam by far! Keep up the good work. May I suggest Dean Corral for a story?
Even if the women were purposefully having explicit sex in front of him (with, for some reason, was done purposefully to provoke him) , it *still* does not justify murder. That lawyer was purely trying to paint the two as sexual deviants. should have never been allowed back in a courtroom
Thank you for featuring this compelling story.
He stalked these woman and decided to ambush them regardless if he would of saw them being intimate or not he stalked and tried to murder them both. My heart goes out to Claudia such a huge loss physically and mentally prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I love these longer episodes!
Ive been watching your channel for years . How are you getting even BETTER at disseminating information , not offending a single soul and add your sense of humor for added spice ?! Great , great , great video bud . Thank you
I cant imagine the twisted horrific vile fear and confusion these innocent hikers faced at the hands of a maniacal single man determined to snuff out the warm glow of the beautiful innocent love story they shared.
Thank you for being so respectful and empathetic to these innocent people ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Your stories are amazing man, one of the best yet 🔥
You say that as if the stories aren't real.
40:50 that was the best dig ever at the defense attorney 😂 bigtime kudos to This is Monsters
I really appreciate that in every episode, not just this one, you include LGBTQ+ help lines. To me, little things like that that show support help normalize our community and show that others stand with us. For me, it helps me feel like there are those who care.
Thank you for covering this tragic story and giving these women the respect they deserve. I would love to see you cover more LGBTQ+ cases as well as Native American, First Nations, etc stories. You always give the utmost respect while making the episodes compelling. I'd love to see cases that have rarely if ever been covered before to bring more attention to the victims and awareness to the disproportionate violence committed towards these communities.
I only found your channel a few months ago, but you're already my favourite true crime channel. Plus, your openings are fantastic. Sinister's gives me True Detective vibes, it's so well done!
Thanks for the work and care you put into every video!
Jiles is the MAN and I also appreciate his including people like myself and how he tells the story with care in his voice 🏳️🌈
I'm sure if you check he'll have videos of Native American representation and if he hasn't I guarantee it's not on purpose.
Somewhere Sinister has an episode about the Highway of Tears in the first season and we’re currently on a season about the American Southwest so there will be a few more episodes centered about Native Americans.
I also did an episode about the Inuits on the Belcher Islands not too long ago. th-cam.com/video/LJlAZnGIgH4/w-d-xo.html
See Dalibar1214, I was right 😊
Wow ! Most of the time when I see a composite sketch , I don’t think it looks like anyone , much less the guilty party. Not in this case!!!!! When the video switched from the sketch to the pic of Steven , I was shocked!!!!! It was spot on !!!!! Amazing!
Great work on the video as always.
This case was so heartbreaking. My sympathy to Rebecca’s loved ones. What a strong , amazing women Claudia is …. A true warrior!!!!
It’s just so tragic 💔 two people in love destroyed because of pure hate… shameful.
For the first ten minutes or so I just enjoyed the inspiring love story - until I was reminded what channel I was watching. What a heartbreaking case.
As someone who is queer, I usually actively avoid watching true crime content when it is evident that the victim(s) or perpetrator(s) fall under the LGBT+ umbrella, not because I can't stomach these cases, but because the vast majority of true crime content creators are simply incapable of discussing those things as elements of one's identity without espousing the same blatant homophobia and transphobia that has been peddled and normalized for centuries, or even excluding these things from the narrative in cases where they are absolutely relevant. I really really appreciate the way you covered this crime, and the emphasis placed on Claudia and Rebecca and covering their relationship with the respect and dignity it deserves.
Agree, and it doesn't help when they either ignore or promote comments that are just blatantly anti-LGBT and saying the victim had their death coming. As a lesbian I am happy to see this channel is not like that at all.
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
My sis is a lesbian. She is 49 years old. We did not know until she was grown. I shared a room with her so I had a feeling she was. Our family accepted it but my Dad would never talk about it. He still loved her but it changed their relationship. It kinda changed my feeling towards her. Then I realized she is the same person only now I know more about her. I love her very much. I did not realize how hard her life was. How much she had been hated by some and she lost straight friends. So glad my parents raised us to be accepting. 💜. She has been in a relationship for 10 years. She is happy and that is all that matters!!
So glad this horrible monster was jailed. How could anyone say what he did was OK. He killed because he hated what he saw!! -If you don’t like what you see just move on!! -That is what we should teach our children. I feel horrible that she lost her partner. Everyone should be allowed happiness with whoever they choose!!💜
wow, i cant believe ive never heard this story. thank you so much for sharing.
What a case, Jiles! I am used to extraordinary well researched content on here, but this one? One can tell the amount of work and compassion you are putting in your work!
Thank you❤
I love your channel! Django is so stinking adorable 😍
@@shellysbrewing wait! Mine? Wow! That’s the cutest thing that ever happened to me! You know you made my day, right????
Thank you so much❤️❤️❤️
This story is absolutely heartbreaking. 😢
A lovely start to my week. Love your channel Jiles, from the UK.
Hospitals In the United States cannot turn you away or refuse life-saving care if you do not have insurance.
Another AMAZING story, and well said. Thank you for the hard wok on this on.
As I started watching this I remembered that I had heard a radio program on npr about this story in the 90s. Claudia was talking about her book, Eight Bullets, about this experience. I had forgotten all about this story until now.
I know this story but did not know about the book! Will definitely look into it. Thanks for sharing
@@MultiMoo20As I recall from the radio show, Claudia was reading from the book and I remember that it was compelling. I am sure it would be a good book to read.
As the mother of a gay son, this is my biggest fear….violent homophobes
@christineakey6295 my son is transgender and this is my biggest fear.
And half the time the people who commit crimes like this be gay them damn selves- internalized homophobia, jealousy, and crazy
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Same here!!! My twin brother is gay and its been my fear always!!! We're 45 now.Hes..settled down a tad and doesn't go clubbing as when we were young lol but still the fear is there regardless...
You should have a focus on security anyway. For yourself or your loved ones straight or gay or whatever. For your pets, neighbors and all. Now for the LGBTQ people it is getting more dangerous. That whole rainbow campaign is having a polarizing effect and is therefore a failure. Research bears this out no matter what the flag wavers tell you. LGBTQ people should not have the illusion that it is going to get safer by campaigning harder. Be careful.
This kind of tragedy happens to all people, your statement makes you sound like a heterophobe.
This showed upright after gay pride here in Iceland. Well done on the video. Fkd up how the defence lawyer acted and the life view of the killer is infuriating, hope we've come some way since.
Good morning fellow monsterer's hope you all have a happy day
You seem like a true ally. Thank you. And thank you for treating this case with great care.
Ally??? FFS You clown
Jiles, I love how you cater to the insomniacs of the world ❤. Your channel rocks!!
Thank you for your sensitive and thorough coverage of this case. The world needs many more advocates like you.
You are excellent at telling these stories. A calm, logical and compassionate way of telling them. Thank you.
I'm familiar with the case, but I found this very moving.
Humanity’s disregard and disrespect for fellow humans is devastating. As a POC, LGBTQ+, and a woman…I’m truly terrified to be on my own in this world. I’m past old enough but I’m so scared when I’m not in my own space. Even then, I’m never truly safe.
I'm in the exact same situation and I live alone. I take meds to help me not lock my doors multiple times.
This was also in the 80's keep that in mind. I know its still not perfect though.
Omg that's a total of +30 victim points
@@charlesbryson7443shut up loser
@@warehousedave7937 2 men who could just shut their mouths and move on with their day. Just have to stop by with "jokes". You parents ever teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all" or were they too obsessed in filling you losers with insecurities?