I can appreciate the fact that this is a realistic depiction of buster looping with NP1 servants . Not everyone is gonna have an NP5 Melusine and seeing that she can do just fine at NP1 or NP2 makes buster farming even more reliable to me .
The only reason why they can loop at np1 is because all of the servants used in the video were against enemies that were at class disadvantage. But if you choose to farm enemies that are neutral. Then you need atleast np2.
Apparently with Habetrot and Battle of Camlann CE, Artoria can BG loop too. Need an extra slot on the team with Habbycat and a specific 3-star CE, but it can be done
If you have 10/1/10 and 2nd append to Cu, you dont need np 20% mystic code Just use 1st skill + koyan 50% charge at 1st round, and use another koyan / 1st skill at 2nd / 3rd to charge another NP :)
But you need to invest mats into the first skill and frankly it takes barely any time to activate the MC skill so I think it´s better to save the QP lore and mats
You can Black Grail Buster farm using Morgan (can also do Black Grail farming with Mordred, Artoria Lancer and Artoria Saber using a slightly different version of this method.) You need Morgan (Max Append Skill), Habetrot (with the "Battle of Camlann" CE) , 2x Koyanskaya, and Oberon. Turn 1: Use Morgan's First skill, Habertrot's Third skill on Morgan, Oberon's Second skill on Morgan Turn 2: Use Morgan's Second skill on herself, Oberon's First skill, First Koyanskaya's 1st ,2nd ,3rd skill all on Morgan. (The first Koyanskaya will replace Habertrot after she unalives herself and when Habertrot dies she will give either 10 NP or 15NP if the CE is MLB (It's a 3 star CE but in this case it doesn't need to be MLB) to both Morgan and Oberon.) You then use plug suit on the first Koyanskaya and replace her with the second Koyanskaya and use the second Koyanskaya's 2nd ,3rd abilites on Morgan. Turn 3: Use the Second Koyanskaya's First Ability on Morgan, this then allows you to use Morgan's First and Second Abilities again on herself, then use Oberon's third ability on Morgan.
Oh man, that’s so good. Being able to use BG would totally out damage Arjuna A, wouldn’t it? Just have to unlock/level her A2, and finish Avalon for Habbycat (I only just got Mash back for reals, so this’ll take a few more days 😢) Edit: it’s a more expensive team, but Miss Crane can also work; her NP gives 30% charge and switches
@@reineslee736 Probably Miss Crane, to get 30% charge from her NP when she leaves the field? That’s the only thing I can think of with Black Grail as the CE. That would come with a restriction that if Artoria’s NP kills, Crane’s NP doesn’t happen, so maybe there’s some other way they were thinking of for non boss fights? Usually, you’d need a CE like Rising Mud Rain (should come out next year, I think) that boosts NP overcharge by 2 stages to get more refund from Artoria’s NP. RMR is good because it also give 40-50% NP damage up, which pairs well with Oberon’s S3. Not as good as Black Grail’s 60-80% (no overcharge effect), but better than Duke of Flames 20-25% (increase overcharge by 2)
I know Cu is NP5 in this video, and Melusine NP1, but I’m kinda amazed that a from-launch 3-star Caster at level 70 can out damage Melusine on waves 1 and 2 on this node. Like, wtf?! 😂
Why bother? Turn 1, use his S3 and all Koyan skills for 100% (gain 80% after sacrifice), Turn 2, use Cu’s S1 (20% at lvl 1) and S3 again (another 80% after sacrifice), Turn 3 switch in Oberon and use S1 and S3. Easy.
If you have summer ibuki, you won’t be stuck with the -cd mc, which would make np1 arc hit much harder starting on t2 Ps, you can also fire ibuki’s np on turn 3 as a minor bonus regardless of her ce as long as she has max append 2
The fact that Melusine can pull out those numbers proving herself a top tier farmer while also being a top tier single targer boss killer proves how riduculous she is compared to any other servant in the game. No one even comes close to her level of versatility, perhaps only berserker class servants who can buster loop since they can pull out big numbers consistently against any class while she might struggle against neutral or saber unless you have high np levels. However the fact that she can benefit from both Castoria and Koyan depending on the situation is pretty broken.
Hello, I wanna ask, it seems it is necessary to unlock and max the 2nd append skill, is thay true? In NA i try to make buster loop but I have limited materials, and so far I can only loop with my caster nero, which is not the optimal buster damager imo. I have melusine at NP 2 but Oberon is not here yet, i hope i can get him he is necessary. My melusine unlocked 2nd append skill but its still lvl 1. Also your servant is np 1 but they can unlock append skill, that needs high bond level iirc, right?
An np1 5 star will need to reach bond 6 in order to get the coins to unlock an append, and whether you need to get mana loading or not is dependent on each individual servant
For Melusine? No, she doesn’t need Append at all, just her S1 and S3 maxed (and koyan, and Oberon). Generally, if a Servant has a 30% battery on a 6-or-less turn cooldown, they need a 50% starting CE, and max A2 to 3 turn. If they have a 50% battery on same
Only for Tiamat and Oberon. Although of the 5 servants of the video only 3 (or 4 but Arcueid is a wierd case) are worth it. Cas Cu, Melusine and Tiamat
If you’re not taking Oberon, Cu’s S1 and A2 lets you 3-turn with just 2 Koyans. No need for MC’s or anything. Oberon’s just the best for damage, with his S3 doubling NP up buffs
Unlike Arcueid, Cu caster can use plugsuit + oberon (or any 20% np charge) support for more damage. And if you unlock + lv10 skill 1 & appen 2, you can use any MC or plugsuit + any damage support (even without np charge) or 2nd damage dealer if your Cu still doesn't deal enough damage.
I swear, the moment devs start pulling in lower sales, all they gotta do is release a slightly better neutral buster reloader than Arceuid, and they'll be rolling in the dough. As of right now, the real only weakness in three turn farming for buster is the fact that it is impossible to consistently 6CE for almost every Buster servant excluding very weird setups or carding. Arceuid's alright, but she essentially got royally shafted by Funny Vamp not charging her own NP gauge. Tbh, she'd be leagues better if her battery was only 80%, but Funny Vamp worked on herself, too, seeing as she'd still not need her 2nd append maxed because you could S1, S2, S3 on turn 1, then repeat S1 and S3 on turn 3, which gets you up to 110% on T1 with her own batteries, then 100% on T3 between her battery and Oberon's 70%. But then again, I guess the last thing we need is more power creep.
i want a buster loop so bad, but i first i need to control myself from pulling on other banners and just wait patiently on the characters i need for a buster loop.
I would believe he would be able to do around 150K damage against neutral enemies. If he were lvl80, second append max, MLB BG, damage boosting MC. Which is ideal for intermediate to higher tier farming nodes Though i wouldn't use him against anything that he doesn't have a class advantage against. In the end, investing in an SSR is better
I mean, Oberon’s better for damage, and all you have to do is swap him in on turn 3; Oberon’s S1 brings Cu to 100, and his S3 boosts Cu’s damage. No append or S1 leveling needed
@@KRP71390but plugsuit takes so much time. It also increases time spent on tapping additional skills from the 3rd support. Being able to min turn is better the less time it takes to do it. It is part of the reason why I still regularly use Space Ishtar more than any other dps servants because she can run basically any node with just double Castoria alone. Meanwhile my NP2 AltJuna and NP2 Melusine might be able to do more damage, but having to move in Oberon for enabling a 3t is time consuming. Granted you can simply ignore the time problem by turning on FGA and letting the game run overnight😅
@@elusiveshadow5848 Eh, it all depends on the situation with whatever node in question. I mean, I personally have certainly maxed my CasCu’s A2, and it’s especially helpful for those events that give damage bonus CE’s and have irregular nodes as the best currency farming, and it can certainly help for bond farming on other Servants, or needing other CE’s for points and you need to keep cost down. But other times, you really just need that raw damage, and build your team entirely around that.
@Aki-hb1jy Endan is specifically asking for a Space Ishtar engaging in the Buster Reloading System, so starting off with Space Ishtar's Art NP and then switching into Buster defeats the purpose of the request.
You can get close, but you’re short 10% charge on Turn 1 for a pure Buster loop. She pretty much has to start Arts and get 30% refund T1, then she can Buster 2 and 3
@@bagaspratamaputra8640well, she also requires atlas to do so, otherwise she needs plugsuit summer ibuki/edison. Meanwhile Caster Cu can run 2004 with double Koyan due to how he works
Habbycat can let you do that with the 3-star battle of camlainn CE, someone posted a guide to doing so in this comment section. Crane can do the same with her NP, and gives some damage buffs on her way out.
@@KRP71390 we talking about farming? Crane can't do that. Crane's NP has to go after Morgan's but after Morgan clears the wave with her NP Crane can't fire hers. or is there something I'm missing?
Goddamit. Why couldn´t they make melsuine not a loli. Gameplaywise she is amazing but I really hate her design and I on principle do not play with Loli Charcters. FFS. At least I have have Eresh on NP2 and Brynhilde both of whom will be amazing with Koyanskaya and oberon so I can get around without her, but still....
Honestly, I rarely use her Buster form. Her single target damage is so ridiculously strong and it can loop... like, she's naturally a smooth looper. Innocence Arondight with double Castoria is my jam. But, I don't have her tho, I just love that particular quest with her as a support.
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I can appreciate the fact that this is a realistic depiction of buster looping with NP1 servants . Not everyone is gonna have an NP5 Melusine and seeing that she can do just fine at NP1 or NP2 makes buster farming even more reliable to me .
If you do not care about 90++ np2 melusine is more than enough
The only reason why they can loop at np1 is because all of the servants used in the video were against enemies that were at class disadvantage.
But if you choose to farm enemies that are neutral.
Then you need atleast np2.
Cope
for now i use arjuna alter bro hits crazy high number at just np1 pretty good
@@T.K.9 bro i saved 1200 sq for melusine and i got 1 copy
Quick shout out to the artorias who can loop with mud rain. It ain't black grail but it's still really strong
Tutor pls?
T1: Artoria append 20%, S3 30%, V1 50%
T2: Artoria refund 35% (OC3), Oberon 20%, V2 50%
T3: Artoria refund 20%, S3 30%, Oberon 50%
The same can be applied for Mordred and Lartoria.
Apparently with Habetrot and Battle of Camlann CE, Artoria can BG loop too. Need an extra slot on the team with Habbycat and a specific 3-star CE, but it can be done
@@KRP71390 you can use Chloe summer instead of habetrot frees up a ce slot.
If you have 10/1/10 and 2nd append to Cu, you dont need np 20% mystic code
Just use 1st skill + koyan 50% charge at 1st round, and use another koyan / 1st skill at 2nd / 3rd to charge another NP :)
wow thx mate i dint think about this
But you need to invest mats into the first skill and frankly it takes barely any time to activate the MC skill so I think it´s better to save the QP lore and mats
@@michi6486 but it's more flexible,you can bring another damage support or just use np damage up on turn 3
@@michi6486 this is more for boosting damage as this allows to implement a MC with a damage boosting skill.
@@michi6486 As a deranged who wants to max all MC It's not about time or damage but the option to farm XP for more than one option.
You can Black Grail Buster farm using Morgan (can also do Black Grail farming with Mordred, Artoria Lancer and Artoria Saber using a slightly different version of this method.) You need Morgan (Max Append Skill), Habetrot (with the "Battle of Camlann" CE) , 2x Koyanskaya, and Oberon.
Turn 1: Use Morgan's First skill, Habertrot's Third skill on Morgan, Oberon's Second skill on Morgan
Turn 2: Use Morgan's Second skill on herself, Oberon's First skill, First Koyanskaya's 1st ,2nd ,3rd skill all on Morgan. (The first Koyanskaya will replace Habertrot after she unalives herself and when Habertrot dies she will give either 10 NP or 15NP if the CE is MLB (It's a 3 star CE but in this case it doesn't need to be MLB) to both Morgan and Oberon.) You then use plug suit on the first Koyanskaya and replace her with the second Koyanskaya and use the second Koyanskaya's 2nd ,3rd abilites on Morgan.
Turn 3: Use the Second Koyanskaya's First Ability on Morgan, this then allows you to use Morgan's First and Second Abilities again on herself, then use Oberon's third ability on Morgan.
Wait this actually seems good holy crap. Thanks for showing this i’m definitely gonna start doing this
When I try to get Habetrot np copies during this year GudaGuda, I will definitely try this out.
Oh man, that’s so good. Being able to use BG would totally out damage Arjuna A, wouldn’t it? Just have to unlock/level her A2, and finish Avalon for Habbycat (I only just got Mash back for reals, so this’ll take a few more days 😢)
Edit: it’s a more expensive team, but Miss Crane can also work; her NP gives 30% charge and switches
How can saber artoria do this?
@@reineslee736 Probably Miss Crane, to get 30% charge from her NP when she leaves the field? That’s the only thing I can think of with Black Grail as the CE. That would come with a restriction that if Artoria’s NP kills, Crane’s NP doesn’t happen, so maybe there’s some other way they were thinking of for non boss fights?
Usually, you’d need a CE like Rising Mud Rain (should come out next year, I think) that boosts NP overcharge by 2 stages to get more refund from Artoria’s NP. RMR is good because it also give 40-50% NP damage up, which pairs well with Oberon’s S3. Not as good as Black Grail’s 60-80% (no overcharge effect), but better than Duke of Flames 20-25% (increase overcharge by 2)
Thanks for demonstrating buster loopers at NP 1!
I know Cu is NP5 in this video, and Melusine NP1, but I’m kinda amazed that a from-launch 3-star Caster at level 70 can out damage Melusine on waves 1 and 2 on this node. Like, wtf?! 😂
514k>561k?
I respect the non mlb black grail. I have 2 mlb kaleidos and another approaching mlb, but only 3 copies of black grail
Mlb kscope plus an extra and I have 4 copies on bg. Missing one for about 2 years now
Yeah I have 1 MLB black grail + 3 copies but only 1 kaleido :(
@@notDio101-dj6mg I have none of them since 2.5 years of my game .
In my 6 years of playing FGO.
I have 2 mlb kaleid, 2 mlb 2030, but only 2 copy of black grail 😭
With cu caster, you can use oberon
You just need the 2nd append and to level up the 1st skill
Why bother? Turn 1, use his S3 and all Koyan skills for 100% (gain 80% after sacrifice), Turn 2, use Cu’s S1 (20% at lvl 1) and S3 again (another 80% after sacrifice), Turn 3 switch in Oberon and use S1 and S3. Easy.
In conclusion: Get Koyanskaya
If you have summer ibuki, you won’t be stuck with the -cd mc, which would make np1 arc hit much harder starting on t2
Ps, you can also fire ibuki’s np on turn 3 as a minor bonus regardless of her ce as long as she has max append 2
Could also use izumo or maid alter but i see your point
@alb7466 yeah but neither damage push arc, S. Ibuki gives arc another 50% steroids
@@PyramidMan1174 I know, was just being pendantic I suppose since more units than just ibuki have the cd reduction
This is why I need Oberon and Koyan. So I make them carry themselfof course~♡!
The fact that Melusine can pull out those numbers proving herself a top tier farmer while also being a top tier single targer boss killer proves how riduculous she is compared to any other servant in the game. No one even comes close to her level of versatility, perhaps only berserker class servants who can buster loop since they can pull out big numbers consistently against any class while she might struggle against neutral or saber unless you have high np levels. However the fact that she can benefit from both Castoria and Koyan depending on the situation is pretty broken.
*Spishtar working with all three card types*: 🧍🏻
@@thefreaks8926only like arts is the best option for her
@@sevenn1ghtsyeah but Spishtar is versatile in the fact that no matter how many enemies are in each wave, you have buster in case you can't refund
@@Suta969 true but you'll be losing out that one time np damage, hence why arts is better for her
@@Suta969 versitale, but pretty much prone to fail if her Colour Buff whiffed
i think space ishtar can BG loop if you start with arts NP then buster the remaining two waves
This Video only has 100% 3 turns Buster loop but Emiya or Space Ishtar must use Art for 3 turns loop
But that nullifies the number 1 advantage buster looping has over arts looping which is irregular nodes
@@TrapConnoisseur. only the 1st wave needs to be 3 enemies, the other 2 can be irregular
@@TrapConnoisseur.ost 1st wave nodes usually have 3 enemies though. It’s 2nd and 3rd waves that are irregular.
@@Aki-hb1jy nah there's plenty of 1-2-3 nodes and then you're just screwed
Hello, I wanna ask, it seems it is necessary to unlock and max the 2nd append skill, is thay true? In NA i try to make buster loop but I have limited materials, and so far I can only loop with my caster nero, which is not the optimal buster damager imo. I have melusine at NP 2 but Oberon is not here yet, i hope i can get him he is necessary. My melusine unlocked 2nd append skill but its still lvl 1. Also your servant is np 1 but they can unlock append skill, that needs high bond level iirc, right?
An np1 5 star will need to reach bond 6 in order to get the coins to unlock an append, and whether you need to get mana loading or not is dependent on each individual servant
For Melusine? No, she doesn’t need Append at all, just her S1 and S3 maxed (and koyan, and Oberon).
Generally, if a Servant has a 30% battery on a 6-or-less turn cooldown, they need a 50% starting CE, and max A2 to 3 turn. If they have a 50% battery on same
Only for Tiamat and Oberon. Although of the 5 servants of the video only 3 (or 4 but Arcueid is a wierd case) are worth it. Cas Cu, Melusine and Tiamat
U don't need Oberon to 3t with Cú, as long as u have his append2 at lv10, u can use Sima Yi or Zhuge Liang.
If you’re not taking Oberon, Cu’s S1 and A2 lets you 3-turn with just 2 Koyans. No need for MC’s or anything. Oberon’s just the best for damage, with his S3 doubling NP up buffs
Random question but if u have less people in ur party do you get more bond points towards them?
WICKAAAMAN!
Man, its kinda weird that my cu caster is forever (probably) stucked at np4 and it doesnt sound right to me
Man...why did Cu Caster had to be a freakin caster?! I could already black grail loop with sieg and castorias :(
Well, he is Cúler and can deal with irregular nodes. (And deals more damage if np5)
Just pulled Tiamom and Avalon so when Oberon and summer Musashi come back we shall commence cooking xD
cu caster 👍
Can Arc farm with Oberon without atlas code? Of course with Black Grail ?
Yes, but you gotta unlock her 2nd append battery
Welp i have Fox n moth now so everything has been great
Cam you redo this video with summer Chloe, really wanna see how melusine 3d acension and the artorias and Mordred fare against Tiamat.
Unlike Arcueid, Cu caster can use plugsuit + oberon (or any 20% np charge) support for more damage.
And if you unlock + lv10 skill 1 & appen 2, you can use any MC or plugsuit + any damage support (even without np charge) or 2nd damage dealer if your Cu still doesn't deal enough damage.
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I swear, the moment devs start pulling in lower sales, all they gotta do is release a slightly better neutral buster reloader than Arceuid, and they'll be rolling in the dough. As of right now, the real only weakness in three turn farming for buster is the fact that it is impossible to consistently 6CE for almost every Buster servant excluding very weird setups or carding. Arceuid's alright, but she essentially got royally shafted by Funny Vamp not charging her own NP gauge. Tbh, she'd be leagues better if her battery was only 80%, but Funny Vamp worked on herself, too, seeing as she'd still not need her 2nd append maxed because you could S1, S2, S3 on turn 1, then repeat S1 and S3 on turn 3, which gets you up to 110% on T1 with her own batteries, then 100% on T3 between her battery and Oberon's 70%. But then again, I guess the last thing we need is more power creep.
i want a buster loop so bad, but i first i need to control myself from pulling on other banners and just wait patiently on the characters i need for a buster loop.
koyan and oberon will come back dezember 2024😊
I wonder if anyone will ever raise CasterCu's second append skill to allow 3t BG looping with damage boosting MCs
I would believe he would be able to do around 150K damage against neutral enemies. If he were lvl80, second append max, MLB BG, damage boosting MC.
Which is ideal for intermediate to higher tier farming nodes
Though i wouldn't use him against anything that he doesn't have a class advantage against. In the end, investing in an SSR is better
I mean, Oberon’s better for damage, and all you have to do is swap him in on turn 3; Oberon’s S1 brings Cu to 100, and his S3 boosts Cu’s damage. No append or S1 leveling needed
@@KRP71390but plugsuit takes so much time. It also increases time spent on tapping additional skills from the 3rd support. Being able to min turn is better the less time it takes to do it.
It is part of the reason why I still regularly use Space Ishtar more than any other dps servants because she can run basically any node with just double Castoria alone. Meanwhile my NP2 AltJuna and NP2 Melusine might be able to do more damage, but having to move in Oberon for enabling a 3t is time consuming.
Granted you can simply ignore the time problem by turning on FGA and letting the game run overnight😅
@@elusiveshadow5848 Eh, it all depends on the situation with whatever node in question. I mean, I personally have certainly maxed my CasCu’s A2, and it’s especially helpful for those events that give damage bonus CE’s and have irregular nodes as the best currency farming, and it can certainly help for bond farming on other Servants, or needing other CE’s for points and you need to keep cost down. But other times, you really just need that raw damage, and build your team entirely around that.
@@elusiveshadow5848 Uh, it only takes a few extra seconds to use plugsuit and Oberon's skills as the third support. It's not that big a deal.
I want Oberon so bad
Che livello è questo con i berserker?grazie ^^
That would be God's Skyboulder Ruins from Lostbelt 4 (Yuga Keshtra)
@@alenoire thanks^^
Emiya can BG loop with double koyan (albeit with only one buster NP at the end but still)
i dont like that arcueid third skill's 30% battery doesn't work on herself. if it does, she would be able to loop with oberon
Nerfed so bad, she's just a guest servant after all
Could you do an NP1 Buster loop of Space ishtar with
Double koyanskaya and oberon + black grail
That's a total NP Charge of 270%, so where's that other 30% going to come from?
@@artofthepossible7329 You start with arts np
@Aki-hb1jy Endan is specifically asking for a Space Ishtar engaging in the Buster Reloading System, so starting off with Space Ishtar's Art NP and then switching into Buster defeats the purpose of the request.
its possible but if you against fucking zerkers you are out of luck
You can get close, but you’re short 10% charge on Turn 1 for a pure Buster loop. She pretty much has to start Arts and get 30% refund T1, then she can Buster 2 and 3
Melusine is the best servant and nobody can change my views
Kukulkan ?
@@timmy4926 What about her? Are you asking me if she's better than Melusine? Hell naw.
So only cas cu can 3 turn farm with black grail without plugsuit.
And moon princess fyi
@@bagaspratamaputra8640well, she also requires atlas to do so, otherwise she needs plugsuit summer ibuki/edison. Meanwhile Caster Cu can run 2004 with double Koyan due to how he works
Melusine si goog
Onde consigo a black grail ?
I wish we could do this with our wife, Morgan
You can using either habbycat or miss crane
Habbycat can let you do that with the 3-star battle of camlainn CE, someone posted a guide to doing so in this comment section. Crane can do the same with her NP, and gives some damage buffs on her way out.
@@KRP71390 we talking about farming? Crane can't do that. Crane's NP has to go after Morgan's but after Morgan clears the wave with her NP Crane can't fire hers. or is there something I'm missing?
No oberon so the only one who can loop for me is Arc...
No morgan? I’m disappointed
where is this quest?
Lb4
Now add salter haha
Чел, Тонелико тоже может.
Can Kukulkan bg loop ?
Kukulkan only have 50% Np Charge it not enough for black grail loop
@@Famakung :(
@@Famakungdo you recommend a CE with starting np like kscope? How much starting np is required to buster loop on someone like Morgan?
@@reddragonTD Cranking or Aerial Drive are better than Kscope for buster servants with 50% charge like Morgan
Imagine Kuku BG looping... that's busted af
Goddamit. Why couldn´t they make melsuine not a loli. Gameplaywise she is amazing but I really hate her design and I on principle do not play with Loli Charcters. FFS. At least I have have Eresh on NP2 and Brynhilde both of whom will be amazing with Koyanskaya and oberon so I can get around without her, but still....
Agree, her 3rd ascension/final ascension art are especially bad, it makes me mad uncomfortable
and your forced to use thrid ascension if you want the charge on 3rd skill
Honestly, I rarely use her Buster form. Her single target damage is so ridiculously strong and it can loop... like, she's naturally a smooth looper. Innocence Arondight with double Castoria is my jam.
But, I don't have her tho, I just love that particular quest with her as a support.
Spittin'
lmao westerners seethe loliGODS keep winning