Top 5 Things You Should Never do on a Long Motorcycle Trip!
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Some people never learn from other riders mistakes, but I will be positive as usual and I really hope that you will listen with open minds. I don’t have any goals to correct you, teach you or change you I just want to help you.
N: 1 - Never ride fast.
I said this so many times, but I will do it again. I don’t know why everybody wants to have these big, fast and powerful bikes, 100, 120, 150 h.p. On a long motorcycle trip you need constant not top speed. It is much better to be very strict instead of fast rider. If you ride with 100km/h and stopping once per 2 hours, you will cover more km for short period of time than if you ride with 140km/h and stop every hour. Yes, of course if you travel with 140 and stop once per two hours you will be fast, but how many of you are able to do this day after day without risking to have speed tickets, to make accident or a navigation mistake. You can make it on the German highways, because there are no speed limits, but to be honest this is the last place I want to go when I travel with my motorcycle.
N: 2 - Never ride with top case.
I am sure that many riders will attack me now, because they love their top cases, but as usual I will try to convince you to leave it home The top cases are great to ride in the City, to store all of your stuff, even the helmet in, but on the long trip they are pain the ass. After many riding days you will need to change some bolts on it, to fix the broken holder or subframe. If you plan off road section it’s almost guaranteed that you will break it or lose at all.
N: 3 - Never load spare tires with you.
They are too big and too heavy. In the best scenario they will weights about 10kg. If you have big adventure bike maybe more. Because if the shape they have you need to put it on the top of your bags, or on both sides of your hard cases or saddle bags. In both cases you will have difficult access to the stuff on it and every time when you need something you have to remove it. Also, as I said they are too heavy and you need to tight them really well, but because of the weight they will move all the time and you need to stop and re tight it again and again
N: 4 - Never rely only on your smart phone GPS.
Smart phones are great and we love it. In this small device you can upload 3-4 different options, like google maps, Here, City go and so on. They are much easier to use than the standard GPS or paper maps. That’s right, they are, but when they work. The batteries of the smart phones died very quick. The power from the outlets helps, but not always. Sometimes, when you use the GPS internet and phone at the same time, the 12V charger cannot really recover the battery. Maybe keep it in some level, but not fully charged. On the sunny days visibility is not good, which makes the riding more difficult. Another good reason is that the smart phones overheat pretty quickly, usually when you really need it. You can have it as a backup option, but never rely only on it. The simple, cheap GPS will work ten times better than your fancy and expensive smart phone
N: 5 - Never go with loud open exhaust.
It might sound cool when you ride around your neighborhood, but you will definitely regret on the long trip. When you have to spend many days with all of that sound you will come to the conclusion which I just gave you and it’s not only for you, it will be the same for the riders behind you. Make sure that it has at least DB killer and Euro stamp on it. In many counties, especially in Europe, police might stop you, charge you some money and even not let you to ride your bike with this exhaust.
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When I go for long trips I always carry a second motorcycle on my giant topcase!!!
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yeah, you put alot of dollars on there lmao
What a great idea. Why have I never thought about that?
Shade Case ?
I've ridden cross country...my top case was the best luggage on my bike. It's indispensable and I won't ride without one. To each their own. :)
Yeah, handy to store the most needed items like water bottle. The side cases aren't easy to access when loaded wide on the back seat. Not sure what i'll do without my topcase.
And, how long are your trips and how many days ??
My wife and I did a 32000km motorbike trip through Asia in 7 months and I must say that I recognise all your tips, they are true and luckily we didn't make the mistakes. Good video, keep riding!
no one believes you
Top case? Depends on the bike. I absolutely love the top case on my BMW R1200RT. It gives me super easy access what I need. And since most any long trip (especially 2-up) requires lots of storage, having a top case or rack mounted bag is essential.
Don't do leg day before a long trip. You will walk like a pinguïn when you arrive at your destination
Always pee before you get back on the road.
Good advice, thanks!
hahaha but yeah, this is right, some people in my group who don't want to do it will disturb later after 10 mins we start the trip.
IF you decide to hold it you spend the whole ride concentrating on keeping it clamped instead of enjoying the ride.
nice advice thanks a lot
Not far away from where I live is a motorcycle club, they use incredibly loud harleys and have black vests with skulls and stuff like that and they try to look scary. I once waited on a red traffic light and there was one of these guys in front of me and I thought his motorcycle was leaking coolant or something. I first wanted to tell him, but then I saw that the motorcycle wasn't leaking and I had to laugh. Since then I always remember this when I see one of these guys and have to laugh again. =)
"And then the owner starts the engine. It sounds like a crap! Loco loco loco!" So funny!
TheGreat Bear i crack dawn on the floor laughing so much 💖💖💖🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of the most practical motorcyclist on youtube! 👍
Thanks!
İ think so too!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with going on a long trip with a top case! I've done several 5000 mile trips on my triumph tiger with a 56lt Givi topcase totally full and never had any issue. One thing you can do if you're worried about throwing the center of gravity off is raise the forks in your triple trees a bit to get more weight on the front tire. I ride two up at max GVW with the topcase filled to the brim. No problem, just ride like your bike is fully loaded (ie. carefully) and you'll be perfectly fine!
Have you ridden off road in tough terrain with the top case?
@@JJamJ I had. Using a Givi Trekker. No problems at all.
Totally agree with all but the last one from own experience. Yes, you are correct loud pipes that are not stamped can cause issues with the fuzz in a few countries. However, loud pipes save life. I stopped counting the number of times vehicles started pulling out because they didn't see me but stopped when they heard me. Worth every fine you may be slapped with.
In Africa, loud pipes helped me to move animals of the roads and make people aware of your presence. As for maintaining your sanity on a long haul trip, pay attention to the noise data when selecting your helmet and invest in a decent pair of ear plugs. Just my 2c...
Finally!! Someone who thinks the same as I do! Keep the bike small! Outstanding videos and solid, common sense advice.
Well done!
Thanks man!
Thanks for your tips..I always follow your channel... my motorcycle is small 150cc but I have done 80,000Kms with it..
Thanks! Good luck on your trips!
I have an 1100... Amazing on the highway; I sink like a rock off-road. X-/
TheMotorman That's right ..it's not the size it's what you do with it..as the actress said to the vicar
i am riding with my 110cc bro lol. almost all my riding friend have atleast 150cc
Nice one, TheMotorman.
All your recommendations are priceless from personal experience , very valuable
How can someone get the hots for a bike because of a top case? While being handy those things are ugly as hell.
I agree with this, but everyone is different.
Motorcycle Adventures oh yeah 😂 i just showed the vid to a friend and he confessed that the main reason for buying his bike was the big top case in the main color of the bike. I think my taste is just too edgy 😂
Mine came with top case. Never used it
He was a pizza delivery driver
I had a hard top case , hit a rut hard off road , it blew open , throwing my gear all over the road. I have a small soft case now. Has zippers , no latch , cant blow open. Still big enough for rain gear , First aid kit , basic tools , a lg bottle of Water and lunch. The stuff i need quickly .
Thanks for posting !
What ever suit for you, as I said I just wanted to help...
Your videos are extremely helpful !.
Learning from somebody whose been there & done it, is a lot less painful than the experience will be if it's you that has to experience the pitfalls having never done it yourself. Great advice.
Very well said, thanks!
I love watching your videos and I have gained alot of knowledge from them. I also have to say that I learned how to ride on the German Autobahn so it's normal to me. As for charging your phone while you ride you simply need to get a 3 amp USB charger and it will charge your phone while you use the GPS and play music at the same time. It's what I do and my phone has a display of almost 6 inches, but as for bright sunlight I have the sound in my bluetooth earplug to guide me then. Great video as usual.. thumbs up :D
Good stuff.
I keep my luggage in sections. Mixing oily bike tools and spares with clothes and or paperwork is not a recipe for success. One leaky container and everything suffers. A place for everything and everything in its place. This applies to jacket pockets too. Each item always goes back to same place. Just touch pocket and I know it's there.
I try not to travel without emergency water or snacks in case I get stranded for a while.
Perhaps most important, try not to let other people tell you not to go.
Happy travels
I like the last: "Try not to let other people tell you not to go!"
Richard Underdown I agree with u 1000%
My grandfather was a mechanic and since I was young he always says to me "A place for everything and everything in its place"
Actually, I like to place at least some of my clothing on the bottom of each case. Helps to protect the load against vibrations. (I guess this doesn't apply if you use soft bags but I prefer hard ones.)
Souu m he was a wise man!
Yeah, thats the spirit!
Loving all the videos you've been putting out, lots of good things to consider as I've been putting together a moto camping kit for next riding season. Thankfully there's plenty of motorcycle content on youtube to keep me busy during the winter so I don't have to think about my bike sitting alone in the garage.
This was the original idea of the channel, to help you to make your trips much easier than me. I am glad that it works.
Thank you for sharing your motorcycle tips!
Paper maps for sure. In a waterproof plastic cover on a tank bag. I tend to lose awareness of my surroundings when using a GPS - even miss turns more often with than without it. Too easy to surrender your brain to an electronic box. GPS is good for route planning and getting out of a confusing city so I have one but don't use it all the time. Top box yes. Never a problem.
Hi Pavlin, very good advices, as ever. You are absolutely right. But i must give in, i'm also a fan of topcases, i almost ever have one on my bike(s). Their i have my raingear, a second pair of gloves, a air pump, a small tire repair set and a bottle of drinking water (and a roll of toilet-paper for any cases :-). Ride safe my friend. Hans
Elends Huraglump
most of that i had in my tank rucksack on a trip. and on the support frame for the top case my tent and a mattress.
I've done a RTW and a top to bottom on a Yam xt600e, and I recognise and agree with everything thing this fella says 👍
This is excellent advice 👏
Thanks, man!
Love your channel. Thumbs up and always waiting for your next video. Thanks for the good work. Ride on!
Thanks!
My rule of thumb on speed is keep your bike at 1/2 of the redline at cruse ez on rider n bike i never am in a hurry on my trips slo down smell the flowers
i hear ya amen
My bike redlines around 14k , half that 7000 rmp Im moving along a little quicker than the law would like lol
but I know what your saying, just chuckled when I read your comment.
I'd have to take the scenic route if I run at 1/2 throttle bike really should have one more gear
My two cents on the top box thing (or more against it):
1. The sad truth is that riders (especially beginners) tend to overload top boxes. This puts a considerable weight at the most inappropriate place - the very tail of the bike. Even worse - for bikes which we not meant to have a top-box, the mounting hardware usually put the box even further back. This additional leverage causes even more massive stress on the sub-frame. Apart from this having weight in the back also dramatically affects handling - the more weight on the back wheel = more shitty handling and high-speed instability.
2. Aerodynamics - at speeds above 100-120 km/h the top box (especially square shaped ones) start to create a lot of drag - the front becomes lighter, the bike starts to weave around. Counter-steering response is not that direct and immediate. Side wind causes a lot more trouble! Passing by lorries in the opposite lane becomes a priceless experience :)
So far we've been travelling with empty top boxes to keep the weight distribution reasonable and just use them to lock our helmets and jackets when exploring a sightseeing. Now I am thinking of selling both top-boxes and just using good cable locks for the same purpose!
So by all that theory we should never use the factory pillion seat for passengers, who weigh several times more than a top box ever could...???????
I don't see how you can carry everything you need for a long journey far from home without one, especially if you're riding solo and can't share the load.
Agree there...centre line of a top case should never be further back than the centre line of the rear axle...as Yamaha MT09 Tracers know...high speed weave!
@Cellar Dwellers you're directing your comment at the wrong person
Good advice, thanks.
I love your videos. You give the most practical advice.
I appreciate that!
#6 Never ignore advice of experienced travellers :))
You are one of the few people who give out consistently good and very practical advice. I particularly like, and agree with your advice on bike size (your other video) and one thing that you did not emphasize enough is the fuel savings. Your Yamaha 660, loaded down and in real world conditions probably gets at worst 50 mpg or 22 kilometer per liter - crucial when you may see long distances between fill up, or if you have a problem (leaking fuel line, get lost) which makes your fuel prediction go way off. By comparison, a KTM 1290 will get at best 40 mpg - more likely 35 loaded down. So if you have 6g/22l tank, that is another 60 miles or 96k - minimum. We're not talking about saving money - that is just a bonus, but if you do enough riding, believe me you will run into fuel situations and the better mileage your bike gets, the smaller and less frequent your problems will be. You also will not be obliged to carry so much extra fuel. You see these big bikes carrying 2-3 rotpax fuel cells, it is ridiculous. If you're stuck in the middle of nowhere and need to "beg" for fuel from a passerby, it is a lot easier to ask for a few liters (than 15 which you need for the giant KTM) so you can get to the next town. If you reduce your form factor, it has a geometric effect. Smaller bike=the less fuel=less weight=reduced wear on tires/bike/rider=reduced chance of something breaking, crashing from losing control, and of course when your bike falls over, it is a lot easier to pick it up. And this is particularly important with tires. A big powerful bike will chew through tires like crazy.
My top 3 bikes (I am in USA so i can't get the Super Tenere) are:
KTM 690 - all around, more dirt oriented
Suzuki V-Strom 650 - all around, more street/tour oriented
Kawasaki KLR 650 - budget, dirt oriented, bulletproof (can easily be made bulletproof that is)
Honorable mention: Royal Enfield Himalayan - ideal for a smaller person
Honestly i think if you choose anything above 800cc you're missing the point of "adventure riding". Just like you said - you're going so fast, you're missing everything! It's not that an Africa Twin or BMW 1200 sucks, the point is, you don't need that and if you're driving a $15-20k bike off road, imho you're trying to show off and missing the point (and i am going to ride circles around you and have more fun). It's an a-d-v-e-n-t-u-r-e, and part of that should be getting a simple object, like a small bike, to go where you want it to go. that is fun. ALl i ever see in adventure bike videos with the big bikes are guys either riding on pavement, or picking their bikes up out of the mud, or worst of all - 6 guys sitting around a map, trying to figure out how they are going to avoid the trails their bikes can't get over. Their missing everything. They stay on the major roads, and never dare go off the beaten path, because their bikes simply can't do it - they can barely get around a corner on a dirt road without falling down. If you offered me a choice between a new BMW 1200 and Royal Enfield Himalayan, i'd take the little enfield anyday. It's just more fun.
Very well said, thanks!
well said..agreed!
What amazes me is that My Favorite Bulgarian Adventrue Rider is ALWAYS interesting! There are motorcycle Vlogger who are so, so so so so incredibly tedious. Even when this guy is sitting on a couch not riding and just talking he is engaging and interesting!!!!!
This post, kilrassclown, is a very well-written one indeed. I, too, follow Pavlin now and like the spirit of his posts. I especially liked his reviews on the Enfield bike which suited my budget (being retired here). And I've gone up to the Enfield dealer here in Atlanta to see that Himalayan. But the input which Pavlin communicated about the engine being good for about "50,000 Km. only" really made me rethink my interest in that bike. I have a bit of history racing Yamaha DT bikes from way back when, so I'll look closely at the smaller Ténéré 700 when it arrives here and the price is known. Keep posting, keep riding---and safely along the way.
Great advice, thank you so much !
Thanks for all your advices!!
You are welcome anytime!
Again excellent vlog,It opened up the reality about stuff we use on bikes.When you ride in India,I am sure you will ,I would love to ride with you and gain from your experience.
Jesus....I take spare tyres,spare clutch cable & a spare chain gt added to tht too after I had an incident wer my chain snapped with no spare in the middle of no where....one thing I do tht people like me for on bike trips is carry equipment to make tea & coffee
just carry master links instead of a 4lb chain. If your chain breaks, it's just a link breaking, not a systemic failure involving every link. i carry several, they weigh grams. And let me ask you - have you truly ever needed those spare tires? i've never met a person who has, and i've never once seen a quality motorcycle tire just come apart in the real world in fact i just tried to google a few different phrases and couldn't even find an image on line of one. carrying an extra tire is pointless. The only way a motorcycle tire comes apart is if you happen to drive over a giant razor blade, in which case - situational awareness ! you know, go around it! if you carry tires, then you need real, heavy, metal tire irons too which are ridiculously heavy otherwise, you have no way to change that tire.
The make light weight but fairly strong aluminum tire irons. I've actually used them to change my front tire once.
Very useful information and tips.. Thanks for sharing...
As always sir, great advice. Many thanks for posting. Kindest regards. Joe.
You are welcome anytime Joe!
Always carry visor washing liquid ( water + shampoo ) . Helps a lot when riding after dusk.
I will agree with that. I also carry small flacon.
I prefer water and paper; now it's true that while it is possible to find toilet paper on most gas stations, it is often very soft and prone to tearing when wet but you can always take some kitchen towels. The method of cleaning has always worked out very well for me.
I use Honda Spray Cleaner Polish on my visor and windshield and on chrome and painted parts of the bike. Comes in a handy size too. take it along. The fewer liquids you carry the better off you are as liquids add a lot of dead weight.
Cleaning your visor with paper or T shirt can leave microscopic scratches on the visor causing glare when driving at night. I've cut a micro fibre cloth into a 5cm square. Wet the visor with water and hand soap from the rest room. Wet the cloth and it will clean the visor without causing micro scratches.
Use baby wipes and a micro fibre dry towel. They also work well for no 2 emergencies in the bush.
Hi Sir after getting many ideas. the confidence is much more.
Mohan Kumarvbm lol
Awesome video!
Once again Pavln good solid advice from someone who has been there and done it. Thank You
Thanks!
More great advice sir.
I find the biggest problem with a top case is the location, they sit behind the line of the rear axle which is bad for handling, it moves the centre of gravity up and back, the best thing is to have the weight as low and as close to the centre of the bike as possible, same principle as standing off road as opposed to sitting, when you stand the weight is on the pegs, when you sit it is on the seat.
And as you said a top case, or for that matter any weight carried behind the axle puts extra load on the rear sub frame that cause it to break, simple law of physics, leverage.
Moving the centre of gravity is one of the big advantages of soft panniers is you can have them sit low on the bike and closer to the centre line.
When loading the bike it is an idea to look at the bike from the side and see where the load sits, try and keep it between the axles as much as possible with heavy things like tools low and forward, makes a big difference in handling.
It also helps to keep the speeds lower so as to use less fuel, meaning you do not have to stop so often it is also cheaper to fill up the tank when you do, not to mention tyres last longer due to less heat, every little bit helps when on a budget.
Good points, thanks!
Wha??? A 20kg top box will break sub frame but a 70kg pillion won't???
In the case of speed i agree with u i have a calculated formula
55 miles per hour = 32.7 minutes
65 miles per hour = 27.7 minutes (5 minutes saved)
75 miles per hour = 24 minutes (8.7 minutes saved)
We can check what time are we saving.
Overall that was a good video 9.5/10
and less fuel used... nobody has big bags of 💰💰
Nice Tips!
Thanks!!
You are welcome anytime!
great tips 💪🏻
For power I only use power-banks instaid of the 12v outlet, but you have to recharge those at least daily. GSP unit lasted 10 hours on a 5000mAh power bank.
Which is mean another one device to carry. Why don't you use a normal GPS?
It's a normal GPS but powered from a power bank not the motorcycle battery. I'm scared of battery dieing on me while I am god know's where... A power bank you can charge from a gas station, a motorcycle battery... not so much.
hayabusaTravels The smallest of bikes generates enough power to power up phone chargers from 12v sockets.
I've never been unable to start a motorcycle due to a dead battery. that is the beauty of a motorcycle - bump start.
I bought a top case for my r1200gs. Canada trip. 4400 miles. Turned bike over 3 times. Right in front of boarder crossing. Changes geometry of bike Way top heavy
Top cases should be empties to store helmets and jackets when you stop or filled with light stuff like waterproof suits or winter filling of jackets and trousers, it is not a luggage storage, it would just unbalance your bike making low speed handling extremely hard.
It wasn't the top case that turned it over , more likely the rider
@@grapewater123, exactly. It seems crazy to blame a top case for losing control of the bike unless it weighed 100+ pounds.
@@kurrie3280 I know right it's ridiculous, but look at how many people liked that comment ?! I'm sure none have ever actually used one or even own a bike.
Great advice Pavlin. 👍👍
Thanks man!
Another Xcellent helpful video from one who has the experience to know what is helpful. Thanks.
You are welcome anytime!
I hate top cases! Makes the bike look like a pizza deliverer... ;)
As I said, they are very practical in the city, but on the trip...
Me to but dam its practical in commuting...
You can buy really nice ones that match your bike.
Mine do...but it never ever looks good on any bike i think...but again perfect for comuting...
yu
I never use side pannier for commuting...too wide...after all the years riding sportsbikes with a backpack...the topbox are great...ugly but great...
Regarding exhausts, when I was in Austria, I was surprised that all bikes were quiet. And that was fine. You can travel behind even in a car and don't need to scream to each other.
I don't know, why lot of bikers think, that noise is good.?
Bass sound is ok, accesories exhausts are also ok, but those not too loud.
I think exactly the same. I don't like noisy exhausts.
Maybe were just getting old
Chris Hart rather not. Loud is good on Moto GP or events but not everyday.
More often than not you won't be able to enter the event if an exhaust is too loud
Also most cars now have such good sound insulation and usually have 3 rubber seals now, even the loudest bikes can only be heard when alongside the car, also if the driver is shocked and not expecting a loud motorcycle coming out of know where one could be shocked and swerve into your path.
Great advice. Fresh perspective.
Years ago. Hit bottom. Job was killing me. Wife met mr right (wtf?)
Jumped on the bike, in the rain and rode away. Into a disaster area actually.
Seeing the devestation i realuzed I had no problems. Only a bad attitude.
You can choose to be wet, tired and miserable, or wet tired and happy.
Makes a difference.
Wife was here when i came home.
Been making the trip yearly now.
Attitude needs it once a year.
Bet you are overdue too.
Very useful tips
I made an entire trip around South America and offline google maps on android were crucial. It can find your location even in the remotest spot on Patagonia without the need of data; the battery is not an issue, you just have to buy an additional battery and replace it when the other is dead. Regarding the top case, i wonder what kind of horrendous bike you must have to get your sub chassis being broken by a top case. I did the entire trip with mine, and will definitely do it again. The top case couldn't stand the hundreds of kilometers i made in off road, but i easily replaced it with a much cheaper one here in my country.
The only advice i could give is, don't spend tons buying a Givi, Touratech, etc. There will be always a local guy with knoweldge on aluminium works who will give you a better product.
Unfortunately, many of the braindead engineers on the cell phones these days are designing their phones without removable batteries. :(
If you have some old laptop batteries though, often you can disassemble them and they'll have the 18650 cells in them. You can disconnect them and charge them up separately. There are some really cheap USB power packs on eBay that you can install these batteries into and they will charge them up via a USB connection and you can use them to power many devices that can be powered from a USB port. Maybe not as good as having a replaceable battery in your cellphone, but it might be a workaround for you.
just use a powerbank and solar panels if necessary
Just curious, what bike did you use for your trip?
A broken subframe is not unusual on the FJR1300. That is a serious failing on an otherwise superb long distance bike.
I've got an ST1100, so it's built for touring. Has good luggage capacity but poor weight distribution. If you pack too much heavy stuff and brake hard on the front the back steps out too easily. Keep to the recommended limit and it's OK. My old BMW R100RT was a lot better in that respect.
Thanks mate, great advice and a good vid,well done to you
You are welcome anytime!
Good Video!
If i go abroad i always put back the stock exhaust
Good.
Motorcycle Adventures exactly for two reasons: law regilations and it is too loud. Btw topcase is good if your tour is only on good quality roads not like mongolia :)
I don't like it to any roads, but that's me.
Motorcycle Adventures maybe if you have 4 minutes you could check out my latest video about my trip in Romania, thanks
I kept the stock exhaust on my bike only because they were talking about changing emission laws in my area. I'm glad I did, I would love to take my bike to Europe and didn't even think about emission standards there. X-/
please come to India..you can rent a motorcycle and explore around.. Many foreigners do the same.Thanks
I will come to India this Oct.
Motorcycle Adventures Are you bringing your Yamaha?
Motorcycle Adventures hey how was your India Trip? Did you make a video ?
I actually cannot wait to come back to India and this time explore it on a motorbike! India’s such a beautiful country.
I do really appreciate your advises..clear and all are very useful. Great video
I am glad that you found it useful!
Thank you... I will definitely keep these things in mind :-)
Good, enjoy your trips!
It's all very subjective. It's all down to the individual. I am never impressed by so called experts spouting off their personal views on how to do things and what you must do. And as usual the sheep follow them. I don't like the looks of top cases, but them to be ever so useful on long trips. Great for storing vehicle docs - keeping them relatively safe and dry.
I don't pack much in the top case, leaving room for helmet etc when stopping at a nice place to walk etc without lugging the bloody thing about. Tend to carry a bit of food - snacks - lunches etc in the box. As for panniers - I prefer the security of hard luggage. But did hurt my leg quite badly on a ride in Uganda when I came off and trapped a leg under the alloy pannier. Soft luggage is a bit safer for that. However, soft luggage is never waterproof and too easy for the thief. Go for what you like and try and pack light. :)
You are right, it is subjective. Everybody need to find the one he likes.
That's exactly what Pavlin said in the begining of the video " I don't have any goals to correct you, teach you or change you". He's just giving his rightfully earned opinion on this matters. And I thank him for that.
Riding fast will fatigue the crap out of you. You will get there just pace yourself i use ear plugs as well.
My fried would want to go fast all the time on his Kawasaki Concours because he could.
3hrs later he's a Gibbering Clam wanting Coffee to stay awake and stay focused.
Needless to say i no longer tour with him and ride, eat and camp alone.
Whatever suit to you and your riding style.
Thanks for your insight. You are the best channel on YT. Wow so much great advice I am planing to buy motorcycle of which I do not know yet. .
Glad to help!
I've watched almost all of your videos already, learned a lot! soon I'll be heading to Atacama Desert, hope I could use properly all of your advices! Ciao from Brasil!
Thank you very much Diluan and good luck on your trips!
When you go off-road of course top case can be the obstacle. When you travel mainly on the asphalt roads it is very comfortable. It is easy to get something or hide something inside. When you travel with passenger (especially a woman) it is absolutely necessary and is a backrest for the passenger. When it brakes the frame... sorry, shit happens.
When using smartphone man should always remember about off-line maps and to turn-off roaming, it can kill you outside Union of European Socialist Republics. ;-)
As I said in the video, I am not going to change you, just want to help.
That's what man should always tell to his wife. ;-)))
Most Adventure bikes are quite strong and as a welder by trade i couldn't do much better,I actually have a 40lt top case ( Shad ) and no problems ever.
Yes they are and I had never such problems but I have never gone real off-road. During my trip in Bielarus sometimes out of the road I was a little bit afraid about my topcase. In fact long trips I do with passenger so my motorbike is not so exposed to vibrations due to mass.
Topcase can cause a problem on the open stretch in strong wind. Especially gusts from the side and especially for the inexperienced rider.
How did that motor sound again?
Great video! Common sense and valid but for some people it is not a common practice. They prefer to learn hard way. Bravo brother.
Yes, we are all the same and different at the same time.
Very helpful! Thnx !!
You're welcome!
What a relief hearing someone who speaks English using kilometers instead of thouse damn miles.
Come to Canada - it is very common :))
@@yessure5291 But I live in the Latvia. We (and countries around us) only use metric measurments. Absalutly no imperial measurments.
hi, i had a burgman 650 with top case ,,,the cross wind wouls blow the moto off the road ,the heavy tractor trucks would suck my moto allmost under the wheels, it took all my experence not too fall under the truck wheels,,, top cases r just too go too the store on inter city ryding,,,m,,,XXX
Hi bare dog so how do you like your 650 scooter, I rode scooters and bike for years and now back on an 650 Vstrom with a top case. Winds are a pain in the arsenal so are big trucks who always want to pass.
Regards from Australia Patrick.
Very strange. Burg 650 is heavy enough to forget about all this. Or you have a top case around 60L?
i have a 200cc scooter which weight in around 175kg with luggage... tell me about those crosswind.. ;/
I love my burgman 650 also!
Good advice.
Thanks
Great .... like every time...... Ciao ... from VENEZIA
Topcases look so bad
I agree, but...some people love it!
I agree ... top boxes are rubbish
Useful as always....and again some Dima Special ;-) thanks for the Upload.
You are welcome!
Many good tips. Thank you
You are welcome anytime!
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Topboxes are brilliant. What are you clowns talking about?? Ffs
Because I am clown and I new nothing about motorcycle riding...
I AGREE. I love my top box-very handy
My current road bike top case’s original mounting fell off around 115 Km/hr 70 minutes into a 3 hour trip. Had to temporarily rig it with large zip ties and shock cords. I mostly like them for storing my helmet, groceries and lightest whatever on road trips.
Hello from Southern California, great practical advice as usual.
Thanks!
I completely agree with your fourth point. I never rely on GPS. They have gotten me lost before. Great video.
You learned the hard way.
Thanks for this video, as much as the others, very interesting. But frankly, your point no. 2 - never ride with a top case - is completely incomprehensible. Not only is the story of your friend completely irrelevant, but the reasons why you don't want a top case are not well explained. You state that they can break or whatever, but for us, who have used top cases with no troubles what so ever, this sounds like a very bad quality top case! Today, most top cases are made of good, robust, quality, so there is no need to worry. Please try to explain this better, instead of wasting the seconds on a completley irrelevant story of your friend :-)
The only good argument against top cases is about how they look, really. All motorcyclists I know travel with them, and I've never heard about any broken cases, or broken bikes because of them. Top cases are easily accessible, waterproof and secure for storing helmets, jackets, gloves, etc. when you walk away from the bike. A motorcycle can easily weigh 200 kg, plus another 100 kg or so for the rider and gear. Most top cases won't bear more than 10 kg or so, hardly enough to cause something to break or affect your riding in any significant way.
There is actually a speed limit on the German Autobahn and its 250 km/h :)
Ok, for 95% of the cars and 60% of the bikes this sound like no speed limit.
On some parts of the Autobahn there is actually NO speed limit :)
its not.
Es gibt kein Speed-Limit von 250km/h in Deutschland
There is no speed-limit of 250km/h in germany
Coldoikz1 Rubbish!
Awesome advices as usual. It helped a lot. Waiting for your travel videos.
I am waiting as well, the winter is too long...
Ohh, I hope it will end soon. I watched a lot of videos of yours, i learned a lot. In future, i hope you plan a trip for India. Its a beautiful country with different kinds of terrain.
From India.
Yes, the plan is to visit India this year. More about it here: rtw-adventures.com/next-1.html
Motorcycle Adventures ohh really, Woww, Wonderful. Come through Chandigarh City also, i will meet you.
Brilliant, as usual.
Thank you!
Great video with solid things to remember. I tend to leave my top case on though. I ride a K-1200 with a sidecar! :O thanks for all the great advice and stories! Please keep them coming.
I will, thanks!
I appreciate your show sir. Very good information.
Thanks!
Thank you... I was thinking of fixing a top box, but was confused... But your video helped me make my decision...
Good, stay away from it and take as less as possible luggage.
Motorcycle Adventures... Thank you.. I mostly ride with magnetic tank bag.. follow most of what you do on your trips. Have a wonderful day
Very useful tips.
Glad you think so!
Great advice !
Thanks Tommy!
So practical..thanks a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
Good tips that I agree with you . Enjoy the trip by looking around slow. That's why we went in the first place.
Exactly!
Very good informations.
All good advise.
I have literally seen guys in the states make every one of these mistakes. Many times, ALL of them at the same time. Here, the ADV bike is simply the new fashion statement in motorcycles for many. As usual, great work and best wishes.
Thanks Mark!
Great advice thanks .
Glad it was helpful!
Very good advises
Great!
I'm totally agree with that!
Very nice vídeo, as usual !! That´s a great advice about the exhaust ... never gave that much thought to the subject, but you're right ... NICE !! Against most of my friends, LOL, I agree and have big discussions on the smart phone and topcase issues ... Man, they just don't understand it ...LOL ... Love to watch your vídeos !! Stay well mand safe. Cheers. Mike
Yes, I also had these conversations few times. Some people prefer to learn the hard way. Thanks for watching!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
You were right bro..I agree everything what you said..so true👍👍👍