Great vid! Saw these were on sale for $269 on amazon then I watched this and made it a very easy decision. I'm hoping the moondrop dawn pro will be good enough for these.
great review. Interesting to see sa-1 performing well with the xs because I haven’t really heard great things about the amp. I think I will prob go with iha6 for my xs
I don’t like sa-1 on any headphone except when modded and with XS only. It’s really just slightly worse than iha-6 for XS, the bass is slightly rolled off on sa-1
You are the first reviewer I've ever heard or read call the Edition XS to be "thin," which were my EXACT impressions when I compared my Edition XS to my LCD-X 2021. The Edition XS is a terrific headphone for $500, but they're not giant killers of kilobuck cans. Well done!
@@nyvoreviews5443 if you ever get to test it, would love to hear if the stealth version fixed the weak points you mentioned on the original and how it stacks up against the XS.
Hey! Great review. I just bought a pair of XS, and am driving them atm with the onboard amp of my motherboard (AMP-UP Audio with ALC1220-VB and WIMA Capacitors for Rear 120dB SNR). I think the volume I can get with it is fine, I keep at 90%, more and it's uncomfortable for me for longer periods of time. Would you recommend getting a cheap amp like a magni/atom/L30? Im curious if it would make a difference in the sound/base etc. Thanks!
There are so many motherboards that I haven’t tried so I won’t know for sure for each model, but every motherboard I’ve tried seems to have a bit of electrical background noise because the GPU is kinda on the same circuit. Using an external dac and amp can bring that down to much lower levels , which can help improve dynamic range). Just because you can get the volume to listening levels does not necessarily mean you are properly powering the headphone either, better amps can also improve dynamic range. An Apple dongle+magni is very likely to improve the sound, But even magni is not enough to see the full capability of the headphone, as you can kinda see on the amp shoutout at the 2nd half of the video. I would recommend trying at least a magni though, but if you have more money to play around with, checkout some of the other options in this video.
Very interesting. Is it possible to have a quick comment regarding this headphone and the dt-1990 pro. Would say hifiman is a better choise? Already having the rme-adi 2. Edit: Saw your video of different Beyerdynamic and I think I got the answer there :-) So, for a value and sound perspective, would you say XS is a good match with RME, and what would you also recommend with RME, for music listening :-) Thanks!
I guess i coulda went to the discord, but i wanna ask about cable recs, should i care about either the input cable from the amp to the dongle and the cable that comes with the edxs? Ordering soon, i guess i also wanna ask if you have experience buying off aliexpress. A store there has the edxs going for ~$370 shipped. A ton of shops offering below $500 though.
For this chain you don’t need to worry much about the cable. I probably used a fairly cheap one myself. There is only a few times where you will actually need to worry about cables in audio gear and this is not one of those times.
Hey I am still curious about HD 600 headphones. I went straight from HD 560S and DT 770 pro to the XS myself. Kind of skipped the HD 6x0 lineup... do you think there is a reason for me to take a look backwards or just stick with XS? Overall I think the sound is great, it's the best I've heard. I realize diminishing returns are kicking in probably after the 560S even ... the $500 price tag is high but I am willing to pay and stick with XS if their is a notable all around upgrade from HD 600. What do you think?
Hd600 is worse overall compared to XS, but some people might like how hd600’s mids sound more full. I wouldn’t buy hd600 if I already had XS, but I would consider a hd650 black silk with bottlehead crack. (Not hd650 silver).
@@nyvoreviews5443 Thank yoU! Only thing concerning me now is the fit of the XS. It is like wearing a pear of sweatpants the way they fit so loosely lmao. The sennheiser fit is "perfect" for me.
@@dandelicious6177 I have v2. Which probably isn’t a big difference. It will sound oaky but it won’t be until you add a decent amp that you get some of the technical ability
@@dandelicious6177 it will be enough to be loud enough but there are a lot more things a better amp can offer than just loud. If you watch more of my videos. Particularly the amp shootout videos it might give you a better idea of how the amp effects the sound
Not a lot for valhalla, no. I uograded to all gold lion on wa7tp and tube rolled with ta20 and with uhm. Dark voice (a lot of different tubes for this one) . Most of the changes are relatively minor. It basically sounds more clear with better tubes. I think you need a higher end tube amp for it to make a really big difference.
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Good review, thank you; I'm tired of salesmen/reviewers trying to sell me headphones at used car prices! 😅😅
thanks. I have no ties to the audio industry, and no affiliate links, and not monetized so I can say whatever I want freely
Agree. I didnt know a review could surpass zeos tier
Great vid! Saw these were on sale for $269 on amazon then I watched this and made it a very easy decision. I'm hoping the moondrop dawn pro will be good enough for these.
Let us know!
I just got them today. Cant wait to use them
@@def-po8tu I imagine it took a few days for your brain to adjust and now you are starting ti appreciate them.
@nyvoreviews5443 I like them alot
great review. Interesting to see sa-1 performing well with the xs because I haven’t really heard great things about the amp. I think I will prob go with iha6 for my xs
I don’t like sa-1 on any headphone except when modded and with XS only. It’s really just slightly worse than iha-6 for XS, the bass is slightly rolled off on sa-1
You are the first reviewer I've ever heard or read call the Edition XS to be "thin," which were my EXACT impressions when I compared my Edition XS to my LCD-X 2021. The Edition XS is a terrific headphone for $500, but they're not giant killers of kilobuck cans. Well done!
Thanks, yeah. Definitely lacking detailed compared to high end cans, but good for its price range
Great video, looking forward to the headphone review!
Great comparisons as always! To clarify, was the ananda in this comparison the stealth version. If not, how would that one fare against the XS?
the original ananda i havent heard stealth yet
i think when i recorded this ananda stealth wasnt out yet
@@nyvoreviews5443 if you ever get to test it, would love to hear if the stealth version fixed the weak points you mentioned on the original and how it stacks up against the XS.
Hey! Great review. I just bought a pair of XS, and am driving them atm with the onboard amp of my motherboard (AMP-UP Audio with ALC1220-VB and WIMA Capacitors for Rear 120dB SNR).
I think the volume I can get with it is fine, I keep at 90%, more and it's uncomfortable for me for longer periods of time. Would you recommend getting a cheap amp like a magni/atom/L30? Im curious if it would make a difference in the sound/base etc.
Thanks!
There are so many motherboards that I haven’t tried so I won’t know for sure for each model, but every motherboard I’ve tried seems to have a bit of electrical background noise because the GPU is kinda on the same circuit. Using an external dac and amp can bring that down to much lower levels , which can help improve dynamic range).
Just because you can get the volume to listening levels does not necessarily mean you are properly powering the headphone either, better amps can also improve dynamic range.
An Apple dongle+magni is very likely to improve the sound,
But even magni is not enough to see the full capability of the headphone, as you can kinda see on the amp shoutout at the 2nd half of the video. I would recommend trying at least a magni though, but if you have more money to play around with, checkout some of the other options in this video.
Thanks for such a detailed review. Any recommendations for an amp to pair with the Zen Dac v2 to drive the Edition XS?
@@namanshree32 it’s basically the same as this video. The dac you are using won’t change it that much for this headphone.
good review bro
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Anything portable or you can recommend. I saw onix a1 alpha had really good reviews. Was considering qudelix before seeing your review.
Btr7 with a balanced cable in turbo mode unlocked in the app would work
Very interesting. Is it possible to have a quick comment regarding this headphone and the dt-1990 pro. Would say hifiman is a better choise? Already having the rme-adi 2.
Edit: Saw your video of different Beyerdynamic and I think I got the answer there :-)
So, for a value and sound perspective, would you say XS is a good match with RME, and what would you also recommend with RME, for music listening :-)
Thanks!
I’ve already done a video like this called mid-fi shootout. Spoiler alert. XS wins
@@nyvoreviews5443 I saw it later. Thank you so much for interesting content and for replying. Have a great day!
Loving my XS on Sa-1 and sgd1 ! Thanks again for the recommendations NyVo !
Glad to hear it, did you do the sa-1 mod? It’s fairly simple, but *possibly dangerous.*. It improves bass and treble
Nice review, once again
Would you say this is overkill just for gaming?
For me personally. It’s under kill. But I’m a pro/semi-pro gamer that actually cares about audio.
@@nyvoreviews5443 Like GBH
I guess i coulda went to the discord, but i wanna ask about cable recs, should i care about either the input cable from the amp to the dongle and the cable that comes with the edxs?
Ordering soon, i guess i also wanna ask if you have experience buying off aliexpress. A store there has the edxs going for ~$370 shipped. A ton of shops offering below $500 though.
For this chain you don’t need to worry much about the cable. I probably used a fairly cheap one myself. There is only a few times where you will actually need to worry about cables in audio gear and this is not one of those times.
Hey I am still curious about HD 600 headphones. I went straight from HD 560S and DT 770 pro to the XS myself. Kind of skipped the HD 6x0 lineup... do you think there is a reason for me to take a look backwards or just stick with XS? Overall I think the sound is great, it's the best I've heard. I realize diminishing returns are kicking in probably after the 560S even ... the $500 price tag is high but I am willing to pay and stick with XS if their is a notable all around upgrade from HD 600. What do you think?
Ah you compare it to 6xx in this review -- helpful!
Hd600 is worse overall compared to XS, but some people might like how hd600’s mids sound more full. I wouldn’t buy hd600 if I already had XS, but I would consider a hd650 black silk with bottlehead crack. (Not hd650 silver).
@@nyvoreviews5443 Thank yoU! Only thing concerning me now is the fit of the XS. It is like wearing a pear of sweatpants the way they fit so loosely lmao. The sennheiser fit is "perfect" for me.
@@drewmorg. hd700 has the perfect fit for me, but unfortunately doesn’t sound so great.
Try CX31993 based USB-C adapter
I use it with planar (Deva Pro) on Android and it works well
Opinions on Sundara Silver vs XS? Price difference is $20 for me here.
XS is far better. Sundara has major issues.
thank you!@@nyvoreviews5443
I'm torn between HD600 or Edition XS, what would you choose and why?
XS is technically better in almost every metric but hd600 some people prefer for tracks that are focused more on vocals
I pciked these up for 275 on sale
How does the XS work with the Zen DAC v3?
@@dandelicious6177 I have v2. Which probably isn’t a big difference. It will sound oaky but it won’t be until you add a decent amp that you get some of the technical ability
@@nyvoreviews5443 Ive read that the Zen Dac has enough power for 600 ohm headphones like dt 880 or 990. So how is that possible?
@@dandelicious6177 it will be enough to be loud enough but there are a lot more things a better amp can offer than just loud. If you watch more of my videos. Particularly the amp shootout videos it might give you a better idea of how the amp effects the sound
@@nyvoreviews5443 still eventhough using the 4.4 balanced output?
@@halleberry123yeah.
What tubes are you using in the Valhalla?
2 tubes are stock and 2 are gold lions.
Have you done a lot of tube rolling in the Valhalla? Seems like the golden lion tubes are highly regarded.
Not a lot for valhalla, no. I uograded to all gold lion on wa7tp and tube rolled with ta20 and with uhm. Dark voice (a lot of different tubes for this one) . Most of the changes are relatively minor. It basically sounds more clear with better tubes. I think you need a higher end tube amp for it to make a really big difference.
so on asgard arya and xs sound almost similar?
Never heard an asgard, but yes I would imagine they will be similar.