I just don't understand why women feel that in order to be feminine, naturally a woman, it depends on men being masculine. Why can't women just hold themselves accountable instead of blaming everyone else! You're responsible for being feminine. Women should teach women how to be feminine. Just like men teach men.
Each gender bodies masculinity and feminity. I believe we express it accordingly. Since most of us grow up with others around, the masculine/feminine becomes more or less pronounced. So though most women are innately feminine, if she is in survival mode (for example) she will pull more on her masculine traits to survive. If she doesn't have to take on the role of hunting/providing then she will naturally rest in her femininity. Vice versa for men.
Yes. Feminine women are not doormats. They’re classy and patient. Feminists hate that a woman can have a difference of opinion without losing their minds trying to ram their opinion down everyone’s throat.
can't people stop using this stupid masucline/feminine enrgy bs? so what beign confrontional for the sake of drama is masculine energy? what? all you all are doing it is this idea that men are only confrontional which one is false and two either always dick measuring.
@@unlimited971 If we look back at it's basis confrontation was initially only physical, before the introduction of language, and even after language's introduction it served, and still can today serve as, a precursor to physical confrontation. So when there are generalizations that correlate confrontation to men or masculinity it is because for millions of years, and today, who do you think confrontation was, is, represented by and favorable for? Men or women? Another point being masculine isn't being confrontational *for the sake of drama*. Imo masculine men are classically stoic, unbothered ( for good reason if you think about it ), confrontation is only resorted to when absolutely necessary. But you have to understand a man having physical competence, and women being less physically competent, is a huge reason why different language patterns are tolerated by different sexes. Imagine a 6'7" 250lb mf talking to a 5'10" 160lb guy and getting verbally confrontational. The implication of physical violence shuts the 5'10" guy up pretty quickly, it even moderates the way he addresses the other guy. Now imagine that between men and women. It's just stupid for a woman to be that verbally confrontational with a man, if we're being real, which is why it's not associated with femininity.
Kay's masculinity is more than just her sass. But just fyi synonyms for sass are arrant, audacious, bold, brassy, brazen, cheeky, discourteous, disrespectful, flip, flippant, fresh, insolent, mouthy, rude, saucy, wise, smart-alecky. What man wants to deal with this on the regular?????
My issue with Kay and people like her is that the Energy is Blatant, the passive aggressive smiling , smirking , the rolling of the eyes.. The coming straight in from jump guns blazing with intent, but then immediately when confronted about what is clearly noticed it’s, NO I don’t have any issues I’m just speaking facts and having my own opinions, no ma’am you feel a way about something that you aren’t speaking of, I don’t like the whole I’m fine nothing is wrong but your energy and the way you communicate, respond , gesture says the complete opposite ... And again having a view of your own is completely fine nobody is disputing that, but she keeps glazing over her masculine energy as just being a woman who has her own views and doesn’t agree just to agree ... You can still hold your own with grace, like Anton said before what is the real issue Kay ? If you legit want to get something out get it out so we can move on ... She is VERY masculine and despises the femininity in Courtney period !
@@bigdev2797 that’s the thing, being heard when you come in from the gate with shade at that point it’s clear on intent.... The reference about the hair from the very beginning kind of gave a sour taste of what was to come.... She came for Courtney immediately for no actual reason off the gate .... But then made it seem like she wasn’t doing that , nawww people know what they are doing when it comes to that passive aggressive behavior.... Something about Courtney doesn’t sit well with her so she was off that from jump, she didn’t care about what nobody was speaking of she wanted to make her point and show her intelligence to argue ... She truly didn’t come on for anything other than that...
Anton's entire answer was a panderfest. What does a woman supporting herself or bringing a financial asset to her family have to do with how sweet, nurturing, kind, soft, and non combative she is? I'll wait.. exactly it doesn't! I know plenty of career women that arent masculine and on the flipside I know plenty that are. I think the two are mutually exclusive and the masculinizing of women rest on choices and influences those particular women chose to make and follow.
Facts...Anton just was on his soap box bragging about much better he is than other men... That's so dangerous for men on so many levels...His stance pretty much let's women off the hook for any accountability...smh
The way Kay was gaslighting Courtney as being nonsensical, when she asked her the simple question of ‘what makes a feminine woman?’ I found utterly disgusting tbh. On behalf of the Nigerian community I can only apologise for her behaviour. We do not claim her!
I was repelled by her behavior, if I heard someone speaking in that way in the wild, I'd put some distance if possible. I'd likely never listen to anything she'd have to say from that point on
That’s why as soon as a bird gets toxic and Vulgar with me (me who have trained all my life and boxed in the ring) I call police on em to deal with them cause I’m not choking no bish out I’m trying enjoy a peaceful life
@@DK-is-Right that’s why you make the call first and remove yourself if you can, stay calm and coherent in the incidents I’ve had with hood chix I kept my cool and luckily the officers approached me instead of going to the female first but that’s just me I never show my sweat
She is definitely an example of this New Modern Masculine Woman she deflects when she feels threatened she has no humility she presents herself from a defensive combative posture due to the fact that she feels threatened when confronted with the facts that show her who she is and rather than take in the information she fights against the information because it sheds light on the masculine posture that she responds from.
Women were being masculine when they wanted to drive, vote and work(have yall forgotten). When I wanted to play sports, exert dating options and showed a love for STEM I was masculine. Why is that when a woman shows a want outside of looking pretty and sitting on our ass or wants to leverage power we're masculine? Men do not determine how women should behave and vice versa. I just want to be me and live my best life. Don't hinder greatness because of what you think it's suppose to be, it just is.
Ashley hit the nail on the head when she said masculinity is now being throw a women when they don’t agree with a men. And that's what the conversation has come down to. All these labels have convoluted the conversation. The conversation has come down to assigning labels and hierarchy rather tham getting results.
Smh 🤦🏿 yes 🙌🏿 sis speak 🗣 your shit. This masculine talk is definitely showing men insecurities. I remember my psychology teacher showing his insecurity, when his wife made more money then him. Then he started making more money and acting like he is better then her , when her intention was to work job she loves and to be the best to her husband. These men are very sensitive and take things wrong way without asking and thinking , why their wife has interest and hobbies in certain things.
Well if you wanna live and be you this is a result. You can’t live outside the norm then be surprised when people don’t treat you like the norm. You have a right to live however you want just like people have a right to have an opinion about you as well. Their are plenty of man who would love to have a woman like you. But would you give those guys a chance?
@@lavonnealexander6936 man want to make more because if we don’t woman don’t respect us in relationships. As much as they pretend to they just don’t . Men wouldn’t really care if woman didn’t care.
@@GoldilocksDoesThat masculine and feminine are labels with meaning it’s nothing wrong with that. Somethings are masculine because of the nature behind them.
@8:00 See this is why i hate the whole Beta/Alpha discussion, because most people are not fully either or. And if a dude is Beta, because he doesn't "assert himself", thats not a character flaw that needs to change. It's not on Betas to "step up". It's on the women to stop trying to emasculate dudes. The guys you call Beta can go date softer women elsewhere and now BW are sitting there looking stupid again. In other words, if a guy isn't "Alpha" enough to make you "feel feminine" then the problem isn't necessarily the guy. Maybe he's just more compatible with someone chill that he doesn't have to play these games with?
Take tiger woods for example. This dude aint about to change himself for you, and he doesn't/shouldnt have to. But im sure back in the hood black women would run all over him and say he isn't "strong enough" to handle them. Real men on their purpose, whether Beta or Alpha, aint got time for that nonesense.
The question has absolutely nothing to do with men though. This mentality is why women have no accountability and act like damn children. Anytime anybody wants to discuss female issues women do two things 1) We aren't all like that - like well known patterns and generalities exist. 2)what about the men Stop deflecting and act like adults.
Kay’s problem is that she’s just combative, have an opinion but sheesh, she came out the gate with an attitude... for what tho? I’m still trying to figure out why
@@mr350znismo7 These days or maybe throughout history. Women may have had the thought of wanting to be Men. So it's shows externally through unnecessary combativeness. Due to her wanting to be in their places as men. I don't know many men, no matter how hard it is being a man. Who would want to be or envy women.
Kay reminds me of a masculine woman who lived on my street when i was a teenager.., and she was early 20s. I know for a fact shes been in minimun 7 relationships that lasted less than a couple years. And has 5 kids , 4 different baby's daddys. Courtney at 7:00 got it right to me.
Sassiness and pickiness and masculine aires are just covering up vulnerability issues. Women can not stand being rejected or criticized. Period. All races. You all rock! Awesome. Doesn’t feminism require masculinity to compete?
So let me get this straight. Let's say a man was awarded custody of his children and he had to cook, clean, do school work, put his kids to bed, console them when they cried and do everything a single mother would do, would it be acceptable for him to start acting feminine? And then blaming his femininity on the fact that he has to be the mother and father to his children and blaming the circumstances of his life to why he acts like a female? Would he say I blame my ex wife to why I'm acting feminine? No that would be ridiculous right? A man could still maintain his masculinity under single parent circumstances. So why do women get to blame their lack of femininity and masculinity on men? As a woman you are responsible for working on your femininity and lack thereof.
This is a very interesting point. I don’t think women have an excuse for not being feminine. That said, masculinity is a dominant trait and femininity is a recessive trait. When you have a woman do all the work (career chasing, homemaker) as a single parent the dominant part comes through more and shows up dominant to her femininity. When you have a man do all the work as a single parent, the femininity comes through more yet is still recessive to his masculinity. I don’t blame the men, but I do think the family unit is purposed you avoid the diluting of roles and temperaments which are meant to be noticeably different between men and women.
You’re either feminine or not. From a lithe girl you show your femininity or lack of. As a woman it’s too late. Marilyn Monroe spoke with a whisper, when asked she said it forces people to listen. I whisper when I talk it works.
@@tenhebrewexecutioners341 nature is nature a lioness goes out to hunts for the pride. Still comes home and is feminine to the male lion. That’s the nature of 95% of the mammal kingdom. Nature is forever the wises teacher. Men are asking for at the most meet me half way let’s build this together and we both can get to the same destination together and with less struggle than doing it alone. I bust my ass to get what I got and alone. Please believe you’re not about to get on this ride and think you won’t have to work hard to prove your on this ride for me and not for the provision the ride provides. Women are better off finding a good man you may have to work with that has ambition and goals rest in your feminine nature and build together than it would to chase a pipe dream and die alone or maybe luck up and still deal with a man who has options knows it and will put you out as quick as he put you in. You’re not going to beat nature in the long run a man with options 96% of the time will exercise them whenever he pleases.
Some women are always feminine naturally and don't have to act. Those are the women most men are attracted too. Not women who are feminine sometimes and masculine other times.
They swing for the fences everytime, they even attack one another. It's out of control in our community. They would rather die alone and keep the negative energy. Instead of bend a little and be happily married. "Can't make this up"
I think Kay is genuine. It just seems like people have a issue with a difference of open. I haven't found her to be disrespectful. She just doesn't agree with everything everybody says just to make friends.
Just look at history: Late Feminism and welfare is what turned more women to be masculine. Feminism turned into "i don't need a man" add in women working in men dominated environments made them adjust to compete.... also the welfare state offered incentives for a man to not be in the household... (which still goes on). Add all those together and this is what we have. Before the 60s marriage was super high in our community... right now... 29% marriage rate and 70% of children born out of wedlock without a 2 parent home. Disastrous
If you all are calling Kay mascaline you all don't know what masculinity is. She is a woman with a different opinion. Anton doesn't know how to deal with it. Just cause a woman is strong doesn't make her mascaline. Men and women have strength In different ways and we must first understand that. Like Kevin says we must understand each other's nature as men and women.
@@berrymckockiner5883 how would you know that? Can you personally say that you know that as a fact or is that something you think. If you know please show me proof.
Yes, yes, & yes some women who have masculine energy are celebrated. Women are supposed to be soft & feminine. We need to remember though that just because I may disagree with my man or a man, it doesn't mean that me disagreeing is masculine in itself. I don't have to agree with everything you say & I can still simmer in my softness even during an argument. I can get my point across, give respect, & receive it. Masculine women have qualities/characteristics that are typically associated with men. We need to understand what this really means & do the work IF it applies to you.
This is the first time the discussion is happening, before KS any man was scared to say what needed to be said. Ever since ks, men have the balls to say what is needed to be said.
I understand what Anton is saying, but its also about choices. You have to make better decisions about who you have kids with as well. If your choosing properly, your chances of being a single mother goes down dramatically.
Thank god for the woman who laid it flat out. Women are masculine on average, no question. They don't need men, they are men. We have created the environment for them to do so. And she said its better to be feminine, I think I'm in love! 😄
It's not the fact that we can't handle it. We shouldn't have to deal with it. You want your woman to be just that, not a man. Being masculine doesn't make you a strong woman. It shows immaturity. You can only have one king in one castle. Express yourself that's fine. But let's be adults about it
“Of course they are getting too masculine nowadays it’s actually sickening it’s almost like they wanna be men but real men ain’t going for a woman that’s going to challenge us about any and everything straight up” 💯
Chivalry used to be a two-way street. If a woman is acting like this she could get her ass left out to die. Don’t fight back just leave her alone and continue the conversation like she didn’t say anything
Anton went full simp mode making men responsible for women getting pregnant and having babies. Despite having almost 30 forms of birth control, morning after pill and abortion. Why are women getting pregnant by men who aren't their husbands?! That was a Mangina Monologue lol
A man does not have the right to not assume his birthright of HEADSHIP, and a woman does not have the right to assume IT. For anyone to disagree, QUESTION: Where has it gotten us so far? Also consider where men and women are today, where marriage is today, where the children are today, and more importantly where is the idea of family today?
I don’t like how Kay keep being messy when they talk trash to P Ray. Kay you’re not liked on this platform as well. Chics like her get on my nerves. She’s always trying to down the next female.
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I agree to some respect with Anton - however, how many men are absent from the home by choice? In most situations, women end relationships and kick the man out. This relates to why the man has little or no access to the children
From what I'm seeing, I don't think the issue with Kay Aye is masculinity, it's more so unnecessary sassy behavior and passive aggression. My opinion anyway..
Kay, you're not a man to sense masculine energy. If more men said you come across as masculine then you're. You can debate that with a woman but not a man. And after listening to you for several hours I think you have masculine energy as well. You can disagree and have different opinions but still be elegantly feminine. It's just more appealing to listen to a lady with feminine energy. You can just not to listen and that's your choice, but can't change men on that. Learn something from Courtney if possible.
OH LAWD - here we go with Kay again. She's caught up on the feelings where we have to jump up. You can have an opinion as a woman and be feminine about it. HOWEVER, the manner in which the message is delivered is what makes you masculine. Yep - she's combative
Kay is a debater. She wasn't there to agree with points. She was simply throwing stuff to see what would stick. The problem is the panel is very good in counterarguments....lol
And that’s the problem. Some people don’t know the difference between having a discussion and debating. All conversations don’t have to confrontational, because that usually keeps the participants from seeing, or respecting, the other person’s point of view, or learning anything new.
@@RobertDGordon Agreed. But the panel did an excellent job at maintaining their original perspectives because Kay was trying to pivot all over the place with them...lol
@@wizmanballin8498 Yes they did. Even when she has a valid point, she messes it up with her delivery and passive aggressive antics. That’s what Kevin Samuels was trying to get her to understand.
@@wizmanballin8498 that's bull shit they tried to gaslight her but it didn't work. She stuck to the topic when Kevin came in and stated nothing but facts.
Question: If a woman is already in her masculine energy, how exactly is she going to get a masculine man that is looking for a feminine woman. Is he supposed to wait or tolerate that until she gets into her femininity (however long that must take) or go find a woman that is already in her femininity?
Anton said they can give u incentives to leave doesn't mean u leave, the moment women accepted PA or moved in projects they literally had ppl come to make sure no man lived in the home (IT WASN'T A CHOICE). Also what we don't talk about is mothers who are drunk with power and use children as pawns till the father reaches his breaking point. I'm done with the narrative of every dude that left was a deadbeat.
With respect. It rubs me wrong when boot strappers like Anton try to tell people, men in particular that it doesn't matter what happened to you, or it doesn't matter how you were programmed. That's idiocy. It's gaslighting in its lowest form and is extremely ignorant. It is easier to make whine out of dust than to break the programming you receive from an early age. And that is the LAW of the universe. The mind can keep you locked to a bad with no chains. What you are programmed to believe at the most impressionable years of your life is what you are as an adult, and usually near death experiences, and or trauma is the only way to break that. A lot of black people were programmed to live and STAY in poverty, A lot of men were programmed to not be in the home. And there are women who become completely different people when they have children so again, to place that at the feet of the men is stupid. It's fake machismo, disguised as accountability. Just because a few of us out here were fortunate to get to where we are does not mean we get to tell other men they are completely responsible for what is essentially an invisible forcefield that holds most people back, and there is no way around it except understanding and getting past it. But we choose the idiotic macho route and tell men its their fault. Anton seems to embody the idea that money and a platform makes you wise. Stop pushing that bootstrapping narrative. The shit is old and leaves some of our brothers feeling unfit, when its usually something they can't even help.
I think women have gotten more masculine, and they started to do so when they started to view being feminine as being weak. Stay at home moms got a lot of flack for not having a "real job" outside the home and were viewed by a lot of professional women as wasting their lives catering to a man. Thankfully that ridiculous view is shifting. When I read about women from the past, say 150 years and earlier, their femininity was something they valued, and their men in turn valued them as vital to his world. These women took great pride in running an immaculate home and knew that them holding down the home and the kids was vital to the man being free to do what he needed to do. Once women entered the work force with men, a lot of that feminine pride was discarded, and women actually felt ashamed to say they wanted to stay home and raise their kids. We started to forget where our real strength lay, and more and more took on the traits of men. Yes, many men have dropped the ball in regards to their women and children, but I think the responsibility will always rest with women as to how we choose to show up in the world. Feminine energy is powerful energy, different than masculine, but equally as powerful. Mother Nature/Father God - two different view of the same thing. A woman does not have to act like a man, and be a ball-busting wanna-be-man to be taken seriously, just be feminine and serious.
Anton seems to want women who are seen and not heard until he feels like having a conversation with them. Apparently in his mind women should never have a difference of opinion.
Black women don't need all that feminine man or beta man or beta male they don't need anything to assert their masculinity they do it because it makes them feel good makes them feel important let's be honest ladies
BW are the female counterpart of the MOST conquered race of men on the planet therefore her and her off-springs are the MOST vulnerable on the planet which makes for a formula a more strength in the women. Look at BM in their own country Africa and in the diaspora BM are collective on the bottom global so their ability to protect their people against stronger races of men is almost impossible
That’s right, we’re showing up where the men are suppose to be. Who wants to live in poverty??? We work because we have to. We take care of our kids because we have to. We have to be strong. Working is the mans job. Period
BW are the female counterpart of the MOST conquered race of men on the planet therefore her and her off-springs are the MOST vulnerable on the planet which makes for a formula a more strength in the women. Look at BM in their own country Africa and in the diaspora BM are collective on the bottom global so their ability to protect their people against stronger races of men is almost impossible
Chicago saying its a diff question is incorrect. Women across the board more masculine. Attitude is unchecked, unruly, unkempt, short hair, unfeminine, entitled, and almost always arguementive
Women want masculine, strong men but they raise their sons to be the very men they hate to be around. Their daughters get all this 'be independent', 'don't rely on a man' and #BlackGirlMagic while they feed their sons the Disney playbook on how to treat a woman. Leading their boys to get taken advantage of later on in life when someone he likes treat him all kind of way because women aren't raised to learn how to be with a man. On top of all that women are also becoming masculine because they see the short term benefit of it while being mostly protected by the negatives. Two men conversing understand that when a line is crossed shit can get physical. There's an undertone of respect to not take it there. Women don't have that. And done will even egg you on to get physical with them because they know who is given the benefit of the doubt when cops or most bystanders are nearby. The only thing that make women care about how masculine they have become is the fact that they are starting to see men no longer messing with them. And in some cases not even for sex because getting sex don't outweigh the headache of freaking with an ultra masculine woman.
I think Kay makes the topics better because she doesn't agree with everything. She is a little aggressive. But I don't think she is masculine. Like dude said. Sassy.
Basically wat AD said is if women fail it’s a men’s fault if they successfully it’s be we did what we were supposed “like my wife she...... because of me”. What if she chose to leave it’s cause of you. And not every fatherless girl goes thru R Word situation.
Kay you’re masculine. If you were ugly it would be very apparent based on the reception you’d receive. Your attractiveness leads people to listen to you.
They really hurt Kay’s feelings and to me every show they seem to AIM for that and it’s very sad ... S/O to ChicagoRilla is a man a gentlemen Thank you for wording things properly
@@RealMrUndisputed I agree. And that would require both parties to agree to disagree . What you find is that one party does not like the fact that the other party disagrees and herein they assume the other party is unagreeable . In Kay’s example, she clearly agreed a lot but because she didn’t agree with exactly what they wanted her to agree with and could substantiate her thought process she’s masculine .
@@dt5443 No, Kay wasn't listening. There's a difference between hear the words and listening. They weren't trying to get her to agree, they were trying to get her to understand a different perspective. The perspective is from a man, how he sees women. Women are too Masculine, that's why many women want marriage and don't get it. Men want to be with feminine women, if he's not in a hurry to get home, most likely she's overly masculine and demanding.
I just don't understand why women feel that in order to be feminine, naturally a woman, it depends on men being masculine. Why can't women just hold themselves accountable instead of blaming everyone else! You're responsible for being feminine. Women should teach women how to be feminine. Just like men teach men.
Each gender bodies masculinity and feminity. I believe we express it accordingly. Since most of us grow up with others around, the masculine/feminine becomes more or less pronounced. So though most women are innately feminine, if she is in survival mode (for example) she will pull more on her masculine traits to survive. If she doesn't have to take on the role of hunting/providing then she will naturally rest in her femininity. Vice versa for men.
Short answer is YES
Kay does not get. IT. Shorter answer
Long answer: hell yes
Most definitely
The fact that you disagree doesn't determine if you're masculine or feminine. *How* you articulate that disagreement does.
Yes. Feminine women are not doormats. They’re classy and patient. Feminists hate that a woman can have a difference of opinion without losing their minds trying to ram their opinion down everyone’s throat.
can't people stop using this stupid masucline/feminine enrgy bs? so what beign confrontional for the sake of drama is masculine energy? what? all you all are doing it is this idea that men are only confrontional which one is false and two either always dick measuring.
@@unlimited971 If we look back at it's basis confrontation was initially only physical, before the introduction of language, and even after language's introduction it served, and still can today serve as, a precursor to physical confrontation.
So when there are generalizations that correlate confrontation to men or masculinity it is because for millions of years, and today, who do you think confrontation was, is, represented by and favorable for? Men or women?
Another point being masculine isn't being confrontational *for the sake of drama*.
Imo masculine men are classically stoic, unbothered ( for good reason if you think about it ), confrontation is only resorted to when absolutely necessary.
But you have to understand a man having physical competence, and women being less physically competent, is a huge reason why different language patterns are tolerated by different sexes. Imagine a 6'7" 250lb mf talking to a 5'10" 160lb guy and getting verbally confrontational. The implication of physical violence shuts the 5'10" guy up pretty quickly, it even moderates the way he addresses the other guy. Now imagine that between men and women. It's just stupid for a woman to be that verbally confrontational with a man, if we're being real, which is why it's not associated with femininity.
THIS. RIGHT. HERE!!!
Kay's masculinity is more than just her sass. But just fyi synonyms for sass are
arrant, audacious, bold, brassy, brazen, cheeky, discourteous, disrespectful, flip, flippant, fresh, insolent, mouthy, rude, saucy, wise, smart-alecky.
What man wants to deal with this on the regular?????
Short answer.. “none” lol.
No man in his right mind wants to be anywhere near all that.
@@LordHollow 💯, I watched this with my wife and even she was turned off.
3 words, “AN ALPHA MALE”
@@RVANae You can’t be serious 🧐?
My issue with Kay and people like her is that the Energy is Blatant, the passive aggressive smiling , smirking , the rolling of the eyes.. The coming straight in from jump guns blazing with intent, but then immediately when confronted about what is clearly noticed it’s,
NO I don’t have any issues I’m just speaking facts and having my own opinions, no ma’am you feel a way about something that you aren’t speaking of, I don’t like the whole I’m fine nothing is wrong but your energy and the way you communicate, respond , gesture says the complete opposite ... And again having a view of your own is completely fine nobody is disputing that, but she keeps glazing over her masculine energy as just being a woman who has her own views and doesn’t agree just to agree ... You can still hold your own with grace, like Anton said before what is the real issue Kay ? If you legit want to get something out get it out so we can move on ... She is VERY masculine and despises the femininity in Courtney period !
Because she's not being heard. Purpose of the convo if there can't be multiple perspectives
I see no lies lol
I noticed that about how she responds with Courtney too.
@@bigdev2797 that’s the thing, being heard when you come in from the gate with shade at that point it’s clear on intent.... The reference about the hair from the very beginning kind of gave a sour taste of what was to come.... She came for Courtney immediately for no actual reason off the gate .... But then made it seem like she wasn’t doing that , nawww people know what they are doing when it comes to that passive aggressive behavior.... Something about Courtney doesn’t sit well with her so she was off that from jump, she didn’t care about what nobody was speaking of she wanted to make her point and show her intelligence to argue ... She truly didn’t come on for anything other than that...
Nah
Anton's entire answer was a panderfest. What does a woman supporting herself or bringing a financial asset to her family have to do with how sweet, nurturing, kind, soft, and non combative she is? I'll wait.. exactly it doesn't! I know plenty of career women that arent masculine and on the flipside I know plenty that are. I think the two are mutually exclusive and the masculinizing of women rest on choices and influences those particular women chose to make and follow.
Facts...Anton just was on his soap box bragging about much better he is than other men... That's so dangerous for men on so many levels...His stance pretty much let's women off the hook for any accountability...smh
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The way Kay was gaslighting Courtney as being nonsensical, when she asked her the simple question of ‘what makes a feminine woman?’ I found utterly disgusting tbh. On behalf of the Nigerian community I can only apologise for her behaviour. We do not claim her!
I was repelled by her behavior, if I heard someone speaking in that way in the wild, I'd put some distance if possible. I'd likely never listen to anything she'd have to say from that point on
She Nigerian? Word
I second that! We do not and cannot claim her.
lol. Whenever men or women say gaslight it makes me agree with the offender.
Stop gaslighting me TH-cam comments.
We do not claim her, YIKES!
Kay Is Tawana Part 2 Without The Constant Touching Of The Hair And Face 💪💯
Facts
Sisters from 18 -60 it seems like from even 10 years ago way too masculine! Shout out to the sisters who know how to stay in their feminine!
Facts!!! Our little sisters & cousins on up to the Grandmas!
I'm very feminine. However, I get from men that I gv 'masculine' vibes..I'm instantly the 'homie'...And, I dnt even know what it means...
@@thesummrbaby
Then I would ask them why because something's not adding up. Just asked see what they say.
Thank you with a whisper
@@mrworkowt5419 I hv asked...nobody can explain it to me...#allegedly So, I dnt know...
Yes some are too masculine and will even try to get in your face but then as soon as you snap, all of a sudden they no their place and wanna dial 911.
Factual
Kay Is asking for is fake respect because her hair is natural
Anton truly UNPACKED this topic!!! Bruh... You handled that.. Respect,!
She has passive-aggressive energy. Like I said before there is no need for it, but it is expected.
That’s why as soon as a bird gets toxic and Vulgar with me (me who have trained all my life and boxed in the ring) I call police on em to deal with them cause I’m not choking no bish out
I’m trying enjoy a peaceful life
As a black man, I've never seen a domestic situation that police made better.
@@DK-is-Right that’s why you make the call first and remove yourself if you can, stay calm and coherent in the incidents I’ve had with hood chix I kept my cool and luckily the officers approached me instead of going to the female first but that’s just me I never show my sweat
Bro I’m hearing the word peace used more than ever by men these days cos women bring so much drama and nonsense.
She is definitely an example of this New Modern Masculine Woman she deflects when she feels threatened she has no humility she presents herself from a defensive combative posture due to the fact that she feels threatened when confronted with the facts that show her who she is and rather than take in the information she fights against the information because it sheds light on the masculine posture that she responds from.
Women were being masculine when they wanted to drive, vote and work(have yall forgotten). When I wanted to play sports, exert dating options and showed a love for STEM I was masculine. Why is that when a woman shows a want outside of looking pretty and sitting on our ass or wants to leverage power we're masculine? Men do not determine how women should behave and vice versa. I just want to be me and live my best life. Don't hinder greatness because of what you think it's suppose to be, it just is.
Ashley hit the nail on the head when she said masculinity is now being throw a women when they don’t agree with a men. And that's what the conversation has come down to. All these labels have convoluted the conversation. The conversation has come down to assigning labels and
hierarchy rather tham getting results.
Smh 🤦🏿 yes 🙌🏿 sis speak 🗣 your shit. This masculine talk is definitely showing men insecurities. I remember my psychology teacher showing his insecurity, when his wife made more money then him. Then he started making more money and acting like he is better then her , when her intention was to work job she loves and to be the best to her husband. These men are very sensitive and take things wrong way without asking and thinking , why their wife has interest and hobbies in certain things.
Well if you wanna live and be you this is a result. You can’t live outside the norm then be surprised when people don’t treat you like the norm. You have a right to live however you want just like people have a right to have an opinion about you as well. Their are plenty of man who would love to have a woman like you. But would you give those guys a chance?
@@lavonnealexander6936 man want to make more because if we don’t woman don’t respect us in relationships. As much as they pretend to they just don’t . Men wouldn’t really care if woman didn’t care.
@@GoldilocksDoesThat masculine and feminine are labels with meaning it’s nothing wrong with that. Somethings are masculine because of the nature behind them.
@8:00 See this is why i hate the whole Beta/Alpha discussion, because most people are not fully either or. And if a dude is Beta, because he doesn't "assert himself", thats not a character flaw that needs to change. It's not on Betas to "step up". It's on the women to stop trying to emasculate dudes. The guys you call Beta can go date softer women elsewhere and now BW are sitting there looking stupid again. In other words, if a guy isn't "Alpha" enough to make you "feel feminine" then the problem isn't necessarily the guy. Maybe he's just more compatible with someone chill that he doesn't have to play these games with?
Take tiger woods for example. This dude aint about to change himself for you, and he doesn't/shouldnt have to. But im sure back in the hood black women would run all over him and say he isn't "strong enough" to handle them. Real men on their purpose, whether Beta or Alpha, aint got time for that nonesense.
I think its both. Some Men have become more feminine and some Women have become more masculine.
True story
The question has absolutely nothing to do with men though. This mentality is why women have no accountability and act like damn children. Anytime anybody wants to discuss female issues women do two things
1) We aren't all like that - like well known patterns and generalities exist.
2)what about the men
Stop deflecting and act like adults.
Kay’s problem is that she’s just combative, have an opinion but sheesh, she came out the gate with an attitude... for what tho? I’m still trying to figure out why
She argues for the sake of arguing, always moving the goal post and never really making a clear point.
she resents men...but she still wants them...SSHHH...do not tell nobody...
She part of what I call the BBC. Not the traditional sense. The bitter bitch community, bitches are mad when men don't want them.
@@mr350znismo7 These days or maybe throughout history. Women may have had the thought of wanting to be Men. So it's shows externally through unnecessary combativeness. Due to her wanting to be in their places as men. I don't know many men, no matter how hard it is being a man. Who would want to be or envy women.
@@glostep1 maybe that's why the suicide rate amongst trans people is so high 🤷🏾♂️
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yes
LMAO
Very detailed analysis thank you for putting in the work lol.
Kay reminds me of a masculine woman who lived on my street when i was a teenager.., and she was early 20s. I know for a fact shes been in minimun 7 relationships that lasted less than a couple years. And has 5 kids , 4 different baby's daddys. Courtney at 7:00 got it right to me.
Sassiness and pickiness and masculine aires are just covering up vulnerability issues. Women can not stand being rejected or criticized. Period. All races. You all rock! Awesome. Doesn’t feminism require masculinity to compete?
So true, it's a defense mechanism.
So let me get this straight. Let's say a man was awarded custody of his children and he had to cook, clean, do school work, put his kids to bed, console them when they cried and do everything a single mother would do, would it be acceptable for him to start acting feminine? And then blaming his femininity on the fact that he has to be the mother and father to his children and blaming the circumstances of his life to why he acts like a female? Would he say I blame my ex wife to why I'm acting feminine? No that would be ridiculous right? A man could still maintain his masculinity under single parent circumstances. So why do women get to blame their lack of femininity and masculinity on men? As a woman you are responsible for working on your femininity and lack thereof.
Good example
This is a very interesting point. I don’t think women have an excuse for not being feminine. That said, masculinity is a dominant trait and femininity is a recessive trait. When you have a woman do all the work (career chasing, homemaker) as a single parent the dominant part comes through more and shows up dominant to her femininity. When you have a man do all the work as a single parent, the femininity comes through more yet is still recessive to his masculinity. I don’t blame the men, but I do think the family unit is purposed you avoid the diluting of roles and temperaments which are meant to be noticeably different between men and women.
A MAN RESPONDS DIFFERENT THAN A WOMAN... THEY ARE NOT THE SAME SO WHY IS THE ANALOGY AS IF THEY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME
You’re either feminine or not. From a lithe girl you show your femininity or lack of. As a woman it’s too late. Marilyn Monroe spoke with a whisper, when asked she said it forces people to listen. I whisper when I talk it works.
@@tenhebrewexecutioners341 nature is nature a lioness goes out to hunts for the pride. Still comes home and is feminine to the male lion. That’s the nature of 95% of the mammal kingdom. Nature is forever the wises teacher. Men are asking for at the most meet me half way let’s build this together and we both can get to the same destination together and with less struggle than doing it alone. I bust my ass to get what I got and alone. Please believe you’re not about to get on this ride and think you won’t have to work hard to prove your on this ride for me and not for the provision the ride provides. Women are better off finding a good man you may have to work with that has ambition and goals rest in your feminine nature and build together than it would to chase a pipe dream and die alone or maybe luck up and still deal with a man who has options knows it and will put you out as quick as he put you in. You’re not going to beat nature in the long run a man with options 96% of the time will exercise them whenever he pleases.
Some women are always feminine naturally and don't have to act. Those are the women most men are attracted too. Not women who are feminine sometimes and masculine other times.
Feminine Women are the most attractive women, they are wayyy more attractive than voloptuos and beautiful women with that "Cardi B" attitude
The show should be called (IN THIER FEELING)...
They swing for the fences everytime, they even attack one another. It's out of control in our community. They would rather die alone and keep the negative energy. Instead of bend a little and be happily married. "Can't make this up"
*army funeral music*
@@nbamixer0 you play I'll salute my dude.#Godfatherstyle
@@perfect9476 🎺
I think Kay is genuine. It just seems like people have a issue with a difference of open. I haven't found her to be disrespectful. She just doesn't agree with everything everybody says just to make friends.
Lol genuinely disingenuous
Shoutout to Anton for saying what every man thinking 💯
Many women today embrace that Alpha Female ish like it's cute.
SHE IS CUTE LMMFAO!!!
Just look at history: Late Feminism and welfare is what turned more women to be masculine.
Feminism turned into "i don't need a man" add in women working in men dominated environments made them adjust to compete.... also the welfare state offered incentives for a man to not be in the household... (which still goes on).
Add all those together and this is what we have. Before the 60s marriage was super high in our community... right now... 29% marriage rate and 70% of children born out of wedlock without a 2 parent home. Disastrous
If you all are calling Kay mascaline you all don't know what masculinity is. She is a woman with a different opinion. Anton doesn't know how to deal with it. Just cause a woman is strong doesn't make her mascaline. Men and women have strength In different ways and we must first understand that. Like Kevin says we must understand each other's nature as men and women.
You're just a simp
Naw im just a real Man
@@SuperFranky44 no, you like to allow women to disrespect you.
@@berrymckockiner5883 how would you know that? Can you personally say that you know that as a fact or is that something you think. If you know please show me proof.
@@SuperFranky44 the fact you're defending her tells me that.
"I didnt lead with violence... but im the only one here with non straightened hair" That's clearly a sub to courtney... Violence
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Yes, yes, & yes some women who have masculine energy are celebrated. Women are supposed to be soft & feminine. We need to remember though that just because I may disagree with my man or a man, it doesn't mean that me disagreeing is masculine in itself. I don't have to agree with everything you say & I can still simmer in my softness even during an argument. I can get my point across, give respect, & receive it. Masculine women have qualities/characteristics that are typically associated with men. We need to understand what this really means & do the work IF it applies to you.
LMMFAO!!! AS YOU CAN SEE MEN DON'T KNOW FEMININE WOMEN WHEN THEY ARE IN FRONT OF THEM
BLACK MEN. Debating black women is improving the black community how.
This is the first time the discussion is happening, before KS any man was scared to say what needed to be said.
Ever since ks, men have the balls to say what is needed to be said.
I understand what Anton is saying, but its also about choices. You have to make better decisions about who you have kids with as well. If your choosing properly, your chances of being a single mother goes down dramatically.
Thank god for the woman who laid it flat out. Women are masculine on average, no question. They don't need men, they are men. We have created the environment for them to do so. And she said its better to be feminine, I think I'm in love! 😄
Nobody questions if men are less masculine today but with women we always have to dance.
Naw it’s a lot of TH-cam videos about that bruh
Sometimes men can not handle their own energy reflected to them.
No one wants a women with a dick !
@@outkast40 Sounds to me like you agree with my comment; thank you for your support! 🙉🏆
@@montezdiamond7065 LMMFAO!!!
Sounds like you still can't handle shit
It's not the fact that we can't handle it. We shouldn't have to deal with it. You want your woman to be just that, not a man. Being masculine doesn't make you a strong woman. It shows immaturity. You can only have one king in one castle. Express yourself that's fine. But let's be adults about it
Wow!
I'm blown away at Anton's perspective on this subject.
Definitely unexpected.
“Of course they are getting too masculine nowadays it’s actually sickening it’s almost like they wanna be men but real men ain’t going for a woman that’s going to challenge us about any and everything straight up” 💯
Love you're guys platform must need for the so call black community thank you Shalom and blessing to you all.
Kay is masculine. It’s not what you do it’s how you do it. Disagreeing is not a masculine or feminine trait.
COURTNEY IS MASCULINE FOR SHO
Chivalry used to be a two-way street. If a woman is acting like this she could get her ass left out to die. Don’t fight back just leave her alone and continue the conversation like she didn’t say anything
"See how i answered that directly bro?" 16:36
Chicago had that "damn, he caught me simpin'" face
Calling them masculine like seems like a joke or compliment to them.
You can always have an opinion BUT the person with the researched data AND the experience to match... has the MORE valid opinion.
Anton went full simp mode making men responsible for women getting pregnant and having babies. Despite having almost 30 forms of birth control, morning after pill and abortion. Why are women getting pregnant by men who aren't their husbands?! That was a Mangina Monologue lol
A man does not have the right to not assume his birthright of HEADSHIP, and a woman does not have the right to assume IT. For anyone to disagree, QUESTION: Where has it gotten us so far? Also consider where men and women are today, where marriage is today, where the children are today, and more importantly where is the idea of family today?
I don’t like how Kay keep being messy when they talk trash to P Ray. Kay you’re not liked on this platform as well. Chics like her get on my nerves. She’s always trying to down the next female.
Yes I don’t like how people are tryna make her to be this hurtful “victim” that is being attacked by these “big hurtful bullies”.
She’s very passive aggressive and she keeps sending shots on the low.
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Kay is feminine in the way she smiles and bats her eyes. However, she's masculine when she speaks by letting her opinion be known, no matter what.
Feminine with a masculine core?
This can happen even when the man and the woman are a married couple. The men will claim they have been emasculated but they “masculate” the women!
I agree to some respect with Anton - however, how many men are absent from the home by choice? In most situations, women end relationships and kick the man out. This relates to why the man has little or no access to the children
Thank you Anton for holding men accountable we men need to step up.
Becoming masculine???
Where y'all been the last, what, 40, 50 years?
😂😂
WITH KEVIN SAMUELS AS IT TOOK HIM 50 YEARS TO LEARN WOMEN LMMFAO!!!
@@tenhebrewexecutioners341 man,get em😂😂😂😂
Dawg Anton is the best hands down😂😂😂😂
From what I'm seeing, I don't think the issue with Kay Aye is masculinity, it's more so unnecessary sassy behavior and passive aggression. My opinion anyway..
Kay, you're not a man to sense masculine energy. If more men said you come across as masculine then you're. You can debate that with a woman but not a man. And after listening to you for several hours I think you have masculine energy as well. You can disagree and have different opinions but still be elegantly feminine. It's just more appealing to listen to a lady with feminine energy. You can just not to listen and that's your choice, but can't change men on that. Learn something from Courtney if possible.
SHE GOOD... YOU A FOOL
@@tenhebrewexecutioners341 Kay log of this fake account
OH LAWD - here we go with Kay again. She's caught up on the feelings where we have to jump up. You can have an opinion as a woman and be feminine about it. HOWEVER, the manner in which the message is delivered is what makes you masculine. Yep - she's combative
Antor Daniel's hit it on the nail!!
How 😂 hey men take accountability for the lack of accountability in women 🤡
Kay Is Masculine And Sassy And Just A Combative Know It All 💪💯
Since everything in life has a cause and effect the better question are the men too feminine which requires the women energy to over compensate
New listener and love the show already
Same here
Kay is a debater. She wasn't there to agree with points. She was simply throwing stuff to see what would stick. The problem is the panel is very good in counterarguments....lol
And that’s the problem. Some people don’t know the difference between having a discussion and debating. All conversations don’t have to confrontational, because that usually keeps the participants from seeing, or respecting, the other person’s point of view, or learning anything new.
@@RobertDGordon Agreed. But the panel did an excellent job at maintaining their original perspectives because Kay was trying to pivot all over the place with them...lol
@@wizmanballin8498
Yes they did. Even when she has a valid point, she messes it up with her delivery and passive aggressive antics. That’s what Kevin Samuels was trying to get her to understand.
@@wizmanballin8498 that's bull shit they tried to gaslight her but it didn't work. She stuck to the topic when Kevin came in and stated nothing but facts.
@@TradingOptionswMndr simp
Anton is on point!!
Question: If a woman is already in her masculine energy, how exactly is she going to get a masculine man that is looking for a feminine woman. Is he supposed to wait or tolerate that until she gets into her femininity (however long that must take) or go find a woman that is already in her femininity?
Good questions.
This was 🔥🔥💯💪
The sista with the "Natural Hair" CAN NOT KEEP A MAN!
Anton said they can give u incentives to leave doesn't mean u leave, the moment women accepted PA or moved in projects they literally had ppl come to make sure no man lived in the home (IT WASN'T A CHOICE). Also what we don't talk about is mothers who are drunk with power and use children as pawns till the father reaches his breaking point. I'm done with the narrative of every dude that left was a deadbeat.
Anton with the 🧢 always perfect timing. 😂😂😂
Kay on a zoom call saying she can email information when she can screen share. Kay hold your L
With respect. It rubs me wrong when boot strappers like Anton try to tell people, men in particular that it doesn't matter what happened to you, or it doesn't matter how you were programmed. That's idiocy. It's gaslighting in its lowest form and is extremely ignorant. It is easier to make whine out of dust than to break the programming you receive from an early age. And that is the LAW of the universe. The mind can keep you locked to a bad with no chains. What you are programmed to believe at the most impressionable years of your life is what you are as an adult, and usually near death experiences, and or trauma is the only way to break that. A lot of black people were programmed to live and STAY in poverty, A lot of men were programmed to not be in the home. And there are women who become completely different people when they have children so again, to place that at the feet of the men is stupid. It's fake machismo, disguised as accountability. Just because a few of us out here were fortunate to get to where we are does not mean we get to tell other men they are completely responsible for what is essentially an invisible forcefield that holds most people back, and there is no way around it except understanding and getting past it. But we choose the idiotic macho route and tell men its their fault. Anton seems to embody the idea that money and a platform makes you wise. Stop pushing that bootstrapping narrative. The shit is old and leaves some of our brothers feeling unfit, when its usually something they can't even help.
Preach Anton! 🙌🏾
I think women have gotten more masculine, and they started to do so when they started to view being feminine as being weak. Stay at home moms got a lot of flack for not having a "real job" outside the home and were viewed by a lot of professional women as wasting their lives catering to a man. Thankfully that ridiculous view is shifting. When I read about women from the past, say 150 years and earlier, their femininity was something they valued, and their men in turn valued them as vital to his world. These women took great pride in running an immaculate home and knew that them holding down the home and the kids was vital to the man being free to do what he needed to do. Once women entered the work force with men, a lot of that feminine pride was discarded, and women actually felt ashamed to say they wanted to stay home and raise their kids. We started to forget where our real strength lay, and more and more took on the traits of men. Yes, many men have dropped the ball in regards to their women and children, but I think the responsibility will always rest with women as to how we choose to show up in the world. Feminine energy is powerful energy, different than masculine, but equally as powerful. Mother Nature/Father God - two different view of the same thing. A woman does not have to act like a man, and be a ball-busting wanna-be-man to be taken seriously, just be feminine and serious.
Top row is solid 🥰
Chicago is pretty real stays consistent, anton is up and down wit it.
Anton seems to want women who are seen and not heard until he feels like having a conversation with them. Apparently in his mind women should never have a difference of opinion.
Facts that was weak af. Kay dude lucky because she's what I want a woman that can have a conversation with and not be in her feelings.
COURTNEY VALIDATES HIS POINTS SO THERE'S THE BATTERY IN HIS BACK
I wouldn't even describe her as "masculine".... she acts way to immature for that, with all that fake high school girl laughter.
Black women don't need all that feminine man or beta man or beta male they don't need anything to assert their masculinity they do it because it makes them feel good makes them feel important let's be honest ladies
I think woman especially black woman killed their femininity earlier in their lives. Like a weakness they had to get rid of.
BW are the female counterpart of the MOST conquered race of men on the planet therefore her and her off-springs are the MOST vulnerable on the planet which makes for a formula a more strength in the women. Look at BM in their own country Africa and in the diaspora BM are collective on the bottom global so their ability to protect their people against stronger races of men is almost impossible
That’s right, we’re showing up where the men are suppose to be. Who wants to live in poverty??? We work because we have to. We take care of our kids because we have to. We have to be strong. Working is the mans job. Period
BW are the female counterpart of the MOST conquered race of men on the planet therefore her and her off-springs are the MOST vulnerable on the planet which makes for a formula a more strength in the women. Look at BM in their own country Africa and in the diaspora BM are collective on the bottom global so their ability to protect their people against stronger races of men is almost impossible
We made it possible for you to have a safe place to work, a way to house your kids etc. You are living in a country that men BUILT.
Great Show Guys 👍🙂
Chicago saying its a diff question is incorrect. Women across the board more masculine. Attitude is unchecked, unruly, unkempt, short hair, unfeminine, entitled, and almost always arguementive
Women want masculine, strong men but they raise their sons to be the very men they hate to be around. Their daughters get all this 'be independent', 'don't rely on a man' and #BlackGirlMagic while they feed their sons the Disney playbook on how to treat a woman. Leading their boys to get taken advantage of later on in life when someone he likes treat him all kind of way because women aren't raised to learn how to be with a man.
On top of all that women are also becoming masculine because they see the short term benefit of it while being mostly protected by the negatives. Two men conversing understand that when a line is crossed shit can get physical. There's an undertone of respect to not take it there. Women don't have that. And done will even egg you on to get physical with them because they know who is given the benefit of the doubt when cops or most bystanders are nearby.
The only thing that make women care about how masculine they have become is the fact that they are starting to see men no longer messing with them. And in some cases not even for sex because getting sex don't outweigh the headache of freaking with an ultra masculine woman.
I think Kay makes the topics better because she doesn't agree with everything. She is a little aggressive. But I don't think she is masculine. Like dude said. Sassy.
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Basically wat AD said is if women fail it’s a men’s fault if they successfully it’s be we did what we were supposed “like my wife she...... because of me”. What if she chose to leave it’s cause of you. And not every fatherless girl goes thru R Word situation.
Kay you’re masculine. If you were ugly it would be very apparent based on the reception you’d receive. Your attractiveness leads people to listen to you.
Kay just ain't judgemental. BS is BS.
If we got to deal with Kay... Please bring back Tawana
BRING BOTH BACK I MISS LOOKING AT THE FEMININE WOMEN
That not always true, masculine women clash with alpha male that insert themselves. Not a good fit
Anton = 💯 💯
Courtney = 💯 💯 💯
Kay = 🤡 🤡 🤡
Chicago = 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡
P. Ray = 🤡 💤💤💤
Becoming? They've been to masculine for a long time now
Anton gives me "short man" energy
Yes Anton!!!!!
They really hurt Kay’s feelings and to me every show they seem to AIM for that and it’s very sad ... S/O to ChicagoRilla is a man a gentlemen Thank you for wording things properly
Yes..and I agree with Anton.
Kay has masculine energy but she was spitting pure facts
They’re starting to even cut their hair & look like little Monstars from Space Jam!!!
Being agreeable is a feminine trait
You can’t agree if you don’t agree, at best you can compromise. Or agree to disagree. God gave us wombs but he also gave us brains .
@@dt5443 agreeable isn't just about agreeing to everything. It's about getting along with people in general, that's even if you don't agree.
@@RealMrUndisputed I agree. And that would require both parties to agree to disagree . What you find is that one party does not like the fact that the other party disagrees and herein they assume the other party is unagreeable . In Kay’s example, she clearly agreed a lot but because she didn’t agree with exactly what they wanted her to agree with and could substantiate her thought process she’s masculine .
@@dt5443 No, Kay wasn't listening. There's a difference between hear the words and listening. They weren't trying to get her to agree, they were trying to get her to understand a different perspective. The perspective is from a man, how he sees women. Women are too Masculine, that's why many women want marriage and don't get it. Men want to be with feminine women, if he's not in a hurry to get home, most likely she's overly masculine and demanding.
@@RealMrUndisputed how wasn’t she listening when she stated the words I agree several times, but ok I understand sir.