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  • @danielvandam
    @danielvandam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    5:28 classic cinderace unite

    • @Clickonmychannel123
      @Clickonmychannel123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @UwUKyota
      @UwUKyota 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For some reason all the gold badge ninjas on my team do the same as well

    • @rozthepuffer1037
      @rozthepuffer1037 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      even Cris himself did that

  • @유-k6f
    @유-k6f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    6:20 Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?

    • @Oliver-uz1fs
      @Oliver-uz1fs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The gimmick of trevenant is that all his first moves hurt himself to try to get the most out of his second skills

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Curse deals damage to tree itself and wood hammer has a recoil so that's that

    • @유-k6f
      @유-k6f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I was talking about the Cinderace attacking into Pain Split

    • @sam_rom
      @sam_rom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Warlord_Megatron its a joke, not a question

    • @Arctorias
      @Arctorias 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      can people get a reference lol

  • @CountofBleck
    @CountofBleck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    From going to of the worst build on the worst defender to the best on the best defender....I love the trevenant redemption arc.

    • @ec7516
      @ec7516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I loved to play it since the beginning, he's fun to play anyways, i'm happy that he's blessed by the meta rn

    • @ec7516
      @ec7516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@noooonoooo2010 and Greedent now lol

    • @Jear9682
      @Jear9682 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@noooonoooo2010release tree served actually no purpose, at least Crustle could wall people

    • @HI-ho4bj
      @HI-ho4bj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Trevenant was still good before the buffs.
      Worst defender is still greedent, by worst doesn't mean its bad. Greedent is also good.

    • @walkereisenhauer6598
      @walkereisenhauer6598 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hammer leech is still the best build for trev as a defender. Curse split is not a defender build, it’s an alrounder build. It can be a decent toplane build but it’s only on the better side of average compared to other toplaners. The defender build however is unmatched in displacement and cc chaining making it one of the best defenders in the game, although in competition with crustle

  • @re4per00
    @re4per00 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    5:28 average cinderace gold badge

  • @christopherrodriguez6041
    @christopherrodriguez6041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    5:37 that makes laugh so much. Just Cris spitting facts 😂

  • @QueuedUp_
    @QueuedUp_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I used to be a Wood Hammer Horn Leech believer but since the buffs I've really enjoyed this build. It directly counters the "point and click" playstyle a lot of people have rn. Mewtwo, Miraidon, Glaceon, Dragapult, none of these characters stop clicking A to realize they're shredding their own health.

  • @gamerdihan8340
    @gamerdihan8340 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2:08 absol was a game changer!

  • @dannyxu9569
    @dannyxu9569 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've played this build a lot this season. Frequently getting 90k+ damage and MVP. RIP Trev in the next patch.

  • @DoinkDeetus
    @DoinkDeetus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Only issue is it's not that fun since you just walk after you opponent all game

    • @Erinyes
      @Erinyes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You walk after them…menacingly!

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      M2y is more fun than this thing cuz atleast it feels marvelous how fast it can basic attack and secure kills unlike tree who just sticks onto you like a parasite.

    • @christopherrodriguez6041
      @christopherrodriguez6041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Is funny to see how your enemies kill themselves while hitting a tree, that's it

    • @darklord-uz1rm
      @darklord-uz1rm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Warlord_Megatron you are the definition off cringe

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darklord-uz1rm That's a wild incompetent player! How stupid of you to assume that I was a m2y main just because I said getting kills is fun and being a parasite isn't! Stop assuming things, won't get you far in life.

  • @NyxSakura
    @NyxSakura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love facing Curse Split Trevenant as Tsareena. They always think they can win, just cause I'm melee, but breaking the Pain Split bond is so easy, most of the time they end up doing nothing to me. You can also tell a lot of the Curse Split Trevenant players pick that specific moveset cause they don't want to think, so they just mindlessly charge at the enemy, and die before they are able to do anything.

    • @LilyAmazing
      @LilyAmazing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's why I prefer leech over pain split, it just perma-stun the enemies to their deaths lol

    • @Arctorias
      @Arctorias 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn’t curse reset cooldowns

  • @CrisHeroes
    @CrisHeroes  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    would you nerf Pain Split?

    • @ec7516
      @ec7516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If they nerf the Ex too why not otherwise we need at least a broken defender against broken attackers

    • @estebanarias5558
      @estebanarias5558 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just a bit, right now it's impossible to take down if most of my team is melee ranged.

    • @Classyrebel0
      @Classyrebel0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nooooo

    • @elijahmims1928
      @elijahmims1928 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes lol cuz your only option against a pain split Trev is to run away and not attack it. Doesn't seem very balanced. Even the Hoopa knew to run away at FULL HEALTH when Trev showed up.

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. I'm a wood hammer guy

  • @linkario125
    @linkario125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    idk why people are so confused when they see a hoopa trick i mean it's a really fun build this is what im playing every time sometimes i play hyperspace but when i play it my teamates avoid it even if their are low hp so it makes me play more trick than hyperspace

  • @PaulyGutes
    @PaulyGutes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just played a comfey & trevenant duo queue and the comfey essentially turned the Tree into a raid boss.

  • @CountofBleck
    @CountofBleck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now that ive seen the full vid, I think the most amazing thing is not just how effectively ypu weave in and out throughout the match, but how they didnt even K.O. you once. Truly excellent defender gameplay.

  • @FondantApple
    @FondantApple 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly this is how rocky helmet should have operated if pain split is that good.

  • @strongerthankakarot2744
    @strongerthankakarot2744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love curse since I used it first when trevevant was released. After seeing so many players using wood hammer I stopped playing curse

    • @shreeanshmahapatra2313
      @shreeanshmahapatra2313 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Back then curse was the stronger move. Wood hammer only became better after the massive buffs it got. I used to play curse + horn leech all the time.

    • @strongerthankakarot2744
      @strongerthankakarot2744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shreeanshmahapatra2313 I actually never used pain split back then. This is the first time I'm using it after it's buffs

    • @absolvt_
      @absolvt_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The WH buff was really appreciated, it was impossible to run back at the beginning. But can’t say no to the oppressive curse & now even buffed PS dammn just dayummmm

    • @D-S-G.
      @D-S-G. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@strongerthankakarot2744Pain split was so bad before the buff. The max reflect damage at less that 30% hp was like 7%. For context the minimum reflect after the buff is like 15% and the max post buff is 30%

  • @Clam-ou8nm
    @Clam-ou8nm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk what it is but I have the same problem you have where no matter which lane I choose, the entire enemy team always comes to my lane, and not just for the objective.

  • @Caliber918
    @Caliber918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    0:41 no one talking about how he got that berry right before the hoopa portal took it away? I wonder what the hoopa got then, nothing? Or did it get replaced with energy or something?

    • @markcrofut8631
      @markcrofut8631 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've played hoops quite a bit and it gives you nothing if that happens

  • @MichaelAngelo-ff3vp
    @MichaelAngelo-ff3vp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're a really good tank cris. Have to give that to you! This was so entertaining to watch! 😊

  • @ProjectLuark
    @ProjectLuark 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I truly think they buffed this Pokémon to counter Miraidon’s insane constant damage. It felt like the only pokemon at the time that can walk forward and eat the attack because it’s reflecting it back to Miraidon.

  • @Enjinercraft
    @Enjinercraft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No matter what build you use as trev it is always gonna be the sabeleye of defenders (annoying)

  • @brianlucero7656
    @brianlucero7656 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Players still dont understand that when Trev uses pain split, you RUN AWAY. They keep attacking

  • @lloydter
    @lloydter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pain split is just a far superior crustle's unite on no cooldown.
    You dont just reflect your damage taken but also receive less damage and above all also heal yourself. You just can't kill pain split tree in a 1v1. I remember pointing this out on the first day of the buffs but the others started yapping that you lot got a problem with everything lol.

  • @mclovinjdt
    @mclovinjdt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember when tree first was playable, the best build was Curse/Horn Leech.
    Times surely have evolved

  • @Haldricsfury
    @Haldricsfury 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah finally a video on it. I was hoping it wouldn’t be talked about for at least a couple more weeks. I’ve been feasting off it

  • @XParasiteOctoling
    @XParasiteOctoling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Feel like more people need to run curse against tree, especially now

  • @Warlord_Megatron
    @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enemies too were not in synergy. Not to mention trick hoopa

  • @elijahmims1928
    @elijahmims1928 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm confused. So when fighting against a pain split Trev is your only option to run away? Because fighting it gets you killed. It doesn't seem like there's much counter play against it. Fighting seems like a 150% chance of dying.

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need mages who can kite tree otherwise don't engage

    • @jebusauriorets
      @jebusauriorets 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also curse incense makes it less of a threat

  • @psyluck.
    @psyluck. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    posted 8 seconds ago
    that is clicking fast

  • @TandraRoyChowdhury-qf2eu
    @TandraRoyChowdhury-qf2eu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We all hate tree and now we hate it more

    • @CupcakeCollector
      @CupcakeCollector 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      *We all love tree and now we love it even more

    • @ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788
      @ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CupcakeCollectornah, only if it's in my team, otherwise it's a pain to deal with.

    • @CupcakeCollector
      @CupcakeCollector 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788 Agreed but it punishes those brain dead auto attackers so hard

    • @Arctorias
      @Arctorias 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      man i love trees

    • @sayanchowdhury8191
      @sayanchowdhury8191 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who's *"we"* ?

  • @SachuHatakegaming
    @SachuHatakegaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cris pls make a video on surf grininja

  • @theguy5898
    @theguy5898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's hilarious that the counter to pain split Trev is just simply walking away and coming back, but it's not like Glaceon and Cinderace mains have any thoughts in their brain except spamming A.

  • @HardcoreSuperNoob
    @HardcoreSuperNoob 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horn Leech has better synergy with Curse resets. I get triple 100k games with Horn Leech frequently, but i can never do it with Pain Split

  • @kirito4918
    @kirito4918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have to fell my pain how much I suffer and red buff ne where you run lol

  • @albertitomejias
    @albertitomejias 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also like this build with weakness, weight and cookie and potion. U are really unkillable

  • @diegoperezsommariva2509
    @diegoperezsommariva2509 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That enemy team was on something for sure.

  • @j_r28
    @j_r28 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pain split in main games actually reduces your hp and increases enemy hp if they are very low than you, but in this game it still keeps reducing your enemy hp, it's so dumb. But honestly, glacion deserved it.

  • @SilentVinyl
    @SilentVinyl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classic enemy team finishing themselves on pain split

  • @goV_gamer
    @goV_gamer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have 17k coins...which Pokemon should i buy????

  • @darklord-uz1rm
    @darklord-uz1rm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trev pain split is good and I't feel good how to out play a pain split trev but feels really good now it time to buff the other defenders to make em as good

  • @ismasoc5
    @ismasoc5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's the role of a good defender, to endure. The more time they spend on your lane, the less time they spend accumulating valuable farm.

  • @ec7516
    @ec7516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exp Share, Cursed Item and Resonant Guard ans i'm ready for the war with Trevenant lol he's so strong actually

  • @tonywalker6320
    @tonywalker6320 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just did 126k in a draft game and it felt like bullying. It’s ridiculous

  • @JLee0916
    @JLee0916 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this is a pain split video, but is it just me or anyone notice how horn leech has a bit of push back instead of throwing them into the air now?

    • @ayncell0
      @ayncell0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      horn leech is now affected by tenacity

  • @dishant4767
    @dishant4767 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Show us your profile and stats with all your collection of closet too, it will be nice to watch

  • @AlexChimaev
    @AlexChimaev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so tanky it's actually insane the tank could still be decent but the damage from curse makes it absurd

  • @muriloleonardo5138
    @muriloleonardo5138 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    trick room play rough is the better mimikyu build. tell em Cris

  • @kn5412
    @kn5412 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that glaceon was hella mad

    • @theguy5898
      @theguy5898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They saw Cris and were like HATCHA GOTCHA everytime, but died everytime.

    • @DexMasteur
      @DexMasteur 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro's Malding

  • @jonathonpiskpos5482
    @jonathonpiskpos5482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tree is absolute nonsense... I say we get some gasoline and make a tiki torch 😅

  • @mikaparapat2652
    @mikaparapat2652 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i still prefer curse horn leech tbh, you can control your opponents and still heal a decent amount

  • @garethtompkins7232
    @garethtompkins7232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My trevenant is #10 in the world, horn leech is still better because curse gives a big cool down boost.

  • @strongerthankakarot2744
    @strongerthankakarot2744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the faq my defenders get killed easily? Although I use the same items and emblem builds over 250+ hp as suggested

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because Cris is playing against a trick hoopa

    • @danielmeyer6994
      @danielmeyer6994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cris is playing against people who even fail at suppressing Dragapult

    • @ayncell0
      @ayncell0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're likely not playing optimally

  • @AndrewAment
    @AndrewAment 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my OG build for Tree! 🤣 ppl kept saying it was crap. Now whos laughing ?

  • @strongerthankakarot2744
    @strongerthankakarot2744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need more defenders in unite to counter attackers. What about heatran guys? Magma storm can just trap your opponents

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heatran is more of an all rounder stat wise cuz it does quite a lotta damage. If it were to be a defender, it'd be something like blastoise. Ting-lu would make for a great defender instead

  • @acidzeher9232
    @acidzeher9232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only buzz hole defeat pain split

  • @jamesperrott1
    @jamesperrott1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cinderace players have no concept of what aiming their unite move is, they don’t even know what the purpose of the right stick is at all

    • @danielmeyer6994
      @danielmeyer6994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont be mean to us mobile players :

  • @SnowFleiqs
    @SnowFleiqs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enemy team was so cringe x3
    Cinderace mashing its buttons and unite moving lataria
    Glaceon spamming unite move on Cris but not knowing how to do anything

  • @damionsinmons23
    @damionsinmons23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk if im playing him wrong but i get blown up using this build

  • @christianurbina5758
    @christianurbina5758 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just use lapras perish song to counter the tree.

  • @vaibhavchhajed1099
    @vaibhavchhajed1099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Resonant Is good instead of focus!

    • @Skeletonpie.
      @Skeletonpie. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When trev uses its ult it gets more healing, so if focus procs while your ult buffs are active you heal more from it

    • @ayncell0
      @ayncell0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Resonant is indeed better right now

  • @babyaries3076
    @babyaries3076 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No matter how ahead you are it kills you☠️

  • @adb4522
    @adb4522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If people don´t have to complain about miraidon, buzzwole, blastoise and co they would about the tree. TiMi over bufft him a little bit too much.

  • @v.sabhinav8587
    @v.sabhinav8587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This game is just the best in the worst,
    1.the match making is shit
    2.tdy I had a (leftover, exp. Share, attack weight)gardevoir, who died staking the entire match
    3.my teams first three pick is cinderace, greninja, and owl
    4.other attackers too
    5.them some Speedster mains ping defender needed!, like they are gona carry the game
    5.even if I pick defender or support still lose games
    6.and this mmr thing just makes match making worse
    7.the eve evolutions are shit, mainly solar blade leafeon
    8.the game is not balanced
    9.every three weeks there is a new god trier Pokemon
    10.comfey
    11.master ranks are easy to reach and even new players with less than 10 unite licenses are coming as my teammates
    I don't remember anything else right now 😕
    Can changing the server help in any way? 😮

    • @danielmeyer6994
      @danielmeyer6994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, game is legit garbage.
      Its entirely carried by its franchise Pokemon. If that name wasnt there, this game would have gone offline after its first year

    • @v.sabhinav8587
      @v.sabhinav8587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielmeyer6994 facts frl

  • @kuruminightcore326
    @kuruminightcore326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't mind, at least I'm not getting perma CCed

  • @ItzUmbreon89
    @ItzUmbreon89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most balanced pokemon according to devs:

  • @asphaltburner7266
    @asphaltburner7266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh trevenats are being headace nowadays. They shouldn't have buffed it

  • @YosiahW
    @YosiahW 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They caused you pain early game, all you did was split it. Fair and balanced imo.

  • @karan9927
    @karan9927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s fucking broken
    It’s performing like EX mon!

  • @monster-dk7dy
    @monster-dk7dy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is better than getting stunned to death

  • @thefriendlessgamer8552
    @thefriendlessgamer8552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's still here? haha of course they are, evo achieved I dont need to jungle anymore, I'm OP. 90% of solo q.

  • @pinkyletseka6283
    @pinkyletseka6283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    POKEMON ARE CRAZYYYYYY

  • @priyanshdhurve4520
    @priyanshdhurve4520 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the reason I always ban tree u know

  • @kirbypoyotube
    @kirbypoyotube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not that pain split is unfair, it's just that probably more than half of the player base dont know how it works 😹

  • @ancientprogeny8295
    @ancientprogeny8295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    curse pain trev is good when you opponents are pepegas

  • @MrHater..
    @MrHater.. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t know how to play against it properly so you use your influence to try to nerf it, what a class act you are Cris.

  • @aaditiya04chauhan60
    @aaditiya04chauhan60 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally
    this is totally unfair like there are defenders like snorlax who lacks in every department be it CC, sustain, offense(if going for tank build)
    while trevenant can just run over the entire enemy team with little to no sacrifice
    hate this build

  • @noahschmitz1746
    @noahschmitz1746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its realy strong yes but calm down cris so viele Pokémon sind schlimmer als trombork

  • @TheTrueHero31708
    @TheTrueHero31708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19th🎉

  • @sunnyhazarika6343
    @sunnyhazarika6343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First🎉