It took me one month to get nuclear missiles (it was a 1 hour in game = 1 hour IRL) TOTALLY worth it. Was playing as USA and no one was going to attack me cause i posted an article stating i had 30 nuclear ICBS. Russia called my bluff. BIG MISTAKE. took one week to conquer him!!!
I once was in an alliance of two absolute chads. They were my neighbors and I was completely defended, so while they were waging war I managed to build up nukes within 16 days. We dominated everyone.
I agree with you that ICBMs are just fun thing in CoN. The only really valuable ones are conventional cruise and ballistic missiles and nuclear cruise missiles imo bc with conventional ballistics you can easily support your blitzkrieg by disabling enemy cities, units within those cities and airports and airfields and the fact that they can be carried by subs that can fire more than one at a time and can also carry some cruise missiles is great. Nuclear cruise missiles are my love, they have the bang for the buck in later game if you manage to conduct SEAD and/or DEAD ops, bc you dont need as many of them as with conventinals and can be carried by basically anything..
I agree about conventional cruise and nuclear ballistic missiles. I just want to ask something, would chemical cruise missiles be good to use against other units? There are quite alot of light units which are also useful, but chemical weapons damage your units too
Nuclear weapons are worth it but I rather use them through Ballistic missiles against a massive stack instead of ICBM. Chemical weapons are equally just as good if you want to disable cities. Morale will eventually make it harder late game if you use them indiscriminately.
I rarely use nuclear weapons and missile's but i build a lot of theater defend system and when I do meet a player who use nuclear bombs i started researching and upgrading underground bunker to destroy buildings and moral
In my own experience, ICBM usage can be really different from a game to another. Some times, people won't care even if you launch them and destroy some major cities. And you will be dead next morning because you invested too much in missiles and not enough in everything else. BUT it happened to me that people can actually get really scared, especially if you can use one ICBM as a warning shot, and they can even sometimes think that you are a pay to win player, and then dissuasion begins. I remember that one game that I won partly due to ICBMs because the other main team got so scared that they let us take a lot of land, and when they were ready to do something about us, it was too late. All of this because of nuclear dissuasion ! (And at the end of the game, all ICBMs were on their cities anyway lol)
I've never used nukes before. If I or someone in my coalition nukes a city and then I send troops there, will they take damage because of the radiation?
In the missile description in the tech tree, it will tell you what platforms you can launch missiles from. This is after you have made warheads in secret weapons labs.
To fire warheads, you need a missile platform that can fire them, such as a ballistic missile launcher to fire ballistic missiles. Cruise missiles can be fired by many things, like UAVs, ships and so-on.
ICBM launchers are researched in the missiles tab. After researching all warhead types, when you research the ICBM, it upgrades both your ICBM launcher and your missile.
For me, one of the downsides of CON is the chemical/nuclear option. Researching, buying, and launching these missiles does not require any skill. For me the real appeal is to use strategy and tactics to outmanouver an opponent. Nukes are a blunt instrument the most inexperienced player can use, all they need is the time & resources.
Well an experienced player should know they have to take offensive action and research anti missile defensive weapons as soon as you see someone researching it through the news. I've dealt with enemies who had nukes yet never had the opportunity to destroy me because I am a very nuanced player. I read newspaper daily and prepare counter ASAP from day one.
They’re a strategic weapon and take great skill to use effectively. It may not be your preferred game style, but that doesn’t mean it’s inferior. When you get one, it’s announced in the newspaper. And when you use one, it’s intimidating. I nearly lost a strong coalition partner after he got nuked. He got terrified and made peace with a common enemy instantly. The whole point of the game is that factors like this, including diplomacy, are part of the battle space - just like real life. There are other games out there that are more tactically based. If you like that, cool. There’s no need to denigrate how others play. If it works, it works.
All missiles have corresponding missile launchers that you can build once you research a specific missile type. Ballistic missiles can also be launched from missile subs and the elite bomber. A lot of units can launch cruise missiles, from jets, to cruisers, to the ground launcher.
You need research the minimum level cruise missile or ballistic missile. To launch ballistic missiles, you either need missile submarines, elite bombers, or ballistic missile launchers. To launch ballistic cruise missiles, there are a lot of platforms that fire those.
@@MistikFistik-m1g Under the missiles mobilize tab (the same tab that you made your warheads) are the missile launchers. One way to use your warheads is to launch missiles from these platforms. Once you have a missile launcher mobilized, you can press the missile icon to select a target to attack.
Best warhead uses: - Conventional is used for Armor, Naval, and Aircraft that are on land - Chemical is used for soft targets (recommended if the ememy’s defense is higher than yours) - As Nuclear is used for Buildings and Population, it’s is useful to destroy Enemy Units that have a high stack Missile Worth: Ballistic is good if you’re starting in Europe as you may have 27 countries. Cruise is always worth it ICBMs aren’t worth it unless you like to spend your resources Edit 1: added missile worth and changed Warhead best uses
@@kiper4k85 check this time stamp 6:19 and pause it + Use Conventional and Chemical Warheads, you need it for your units to have higher attack than Enemy’s Defense
I am planning on making a missile defense video in the future at some point, but my quick advice would be to have enough SAMs and theater defence in the cities you care about so that the defence plus the attack combined are enough to do 40 damage to missiles. This will protect you from all ICBMs and below, most likely.
@@cresildabantayan2875 Quite a variety of units can. Once you research cruise missiles, many types of ships, aircraft and the cruise missile launcher can fire those. Ballistic missile submarines, ballistic missile launchers and the elite bomber can launch ballistic missiles. Only the ICBM launcher can launch ICBMs. When you research a new type of missile, it unlocks the ground-based launcher for that specific type of missile.
@@musicalleds1205yea because my morale was very high then I nuked all of japans city’s three times and next thing I know my city and smoking and rouge state tryna conquered them
If the attack and defense is high enough to take out all of the hp of that missile, yes. Having a level 1 theatre defense will not take our a max level icmb, for example.
(Google translator) The creators of CoN are breaking the game more and more, so I play less. after last year's update which took away one city with components. Instead of adding one city, they deleted it, so there are even fewer units in the game and it should be the other way around. The beginning was boring and now it has become even slower and forces players to play for money. 1. the development of the country at the beginning of the game is even slower 2. the number of units, which was small, is even smaller 3. The game forces players to use money more often The fourth update broke what man was used to. 4. make changes that cause bugs - why change something that is good, especially if it can't be improved :P 5. map 2050 for 100 players is graphically underdeveloped, and above all strategically in terms of sea logistics - the roads on which ships move are often hopeless labyrinths that prevent a normal naval battle. Not only that, the map does not even show where the shallows are and where the sea is full. This map, despite an interesting idea, sucks :P and there are a lot of golden players :P 6. the amount of points to get 1850 is so small that the player ends the game before he can develop it properly - COMPLETELY NO SENSE 7. Zoom out of the map should be larger. Later in the game it's very annoying, in Call of War they did it much better. 8. It would be nice if each country was different and had extra bonuses 9. they should eliminate this child icon (advisers who say nothing specific, only disturb and annoy) This strategy has its splendor years behind it and unfortunately it is slowly moving towards call of war :P (supposedly maybe because a year earlier some employees were delegated from call of war to CoN and here we have a weak effect ... :P ) I'm going to play this winter anyway, but I've stopped taking the game seriously. :)
Max level ICBMs have an HP of 40, max level theaters have a defense and attack of 16. 2 will destroy an ICBM if they get an attack and defending hit on it, but if it does not attack (very common), or if a smart player uses splash damage to hit you without triggering defense, you're hosed. 3 is the safe bet, but if you have a lot of cities close to each other, the overlapping missile defense means you don't need as many.
@@duke9877 That is tricky. Basically, you would hope that the first one sets off the AA so that when your 2nd one lands it is during the reload period. This is quite hard to intentionally do, and don't expect to do it accidentally. If your enemy has too good of theater defense, it's not really worth trying to nuke them most of the time.
It took me one month to get nuclear missiles (it was a 1 hour in game = 1 hour IRL) TOTALLY worth it. Was playing as USA and no one was going to attack me cause i posted an article stating i had 30 nuclear ICBS. Russia called my bluff. BIG MISTAKE. took one week to conquer him!!!
So you basically say you have icbms and he starts attacking you while he doesn't have enough theater defense systems
Hey I'm new, I wanted to ask if air defense systems should be given importance. If yes, where should I place them?
I am new in this game but you must place on the principal city@@therichdog867
@@therichdog867Of course they are important, and you should put them in the cities
@@savec27p18 As a Russian user, should I focus on Navy?
excellent work this channel has a huge potential 👏 keep grinding and never give up Thanks for the video
I once was in an alliance of two absolute chads. They were my neighbors and I was completely defended, so while they were waging war I managed to build up nukes within 16 days. We dominated everyone.
16 day nukes? Impressive!
Full 100% grind mode and by the end all I had was infantry for an army. I had better runs, but it was fun.@@waralwayschanges
I agree with you that ICBMs are just fun thing in CoN. The only really valuable ones are conventional cruise and ballistic missiles and nuclear cruise missiles imo bc with conventional ballistics you can easily support your blitzkrieg by disabling enemy cities, units within those cities and airports and airfields and the fact that they can be carried by subs that can fire more than one at a time and can also carry some cruise missiles is great. Nuclear cruise missiles are my love, they have the bang for the buck in later game if you manage to conduct SEAD and/or DEAD ops, bc you dont need as many of them as with conventinals and can be carried by basically anything..
I agree about conventional cruise and nuclear ballistic missiles. I just want to ask something, would chemical cruise missiles be good to use against other units? There are quite alot of light units which are also useful, but chemical weapons damage your units too
1:54 And elite bombers, as I discovered (it's amazing to think about the versatility of that)
no elite bombers are just like normal bombers but 1+ dmg
They can launch ballistic missiles
@@gameanna1568 Watch the tech tree. Elite bomber level 1: Launch missile
Cruise missile: capacity 3 Reload time: 11 hours
Ballistic missile
Missile capacity: 2
Reload time: 12 hours
There's not much room for speculation
Best and most informative video I've seen so far
Nuclear weapons are worth it but I rather use them through Ballistic missiles against a massive stack instead of ICBM. Chemical weapons are equally just as good if you want to disable cities. Morale will eventually make it harder late game if you use them indiscriminately.
Now that aircraft can crash land, I'd say that indirectly buffs missiles, making them actually worth it now.
Thank you, great vid keep it up
They're great but leaving a city under that much radiation rendering it unusable for a few days is a pain
You should go over the effects of using nukes
ICBMs are only to be used when the other guy is asleep and on the other side of the world
0:10 Absolutel- I mean No! Of course not!
I rarely use nuclear weapons and missile's but i build a lot of theater defend system and when I do meet a player who use nuclear bombs i started researching and upgrading underground bunker to destroy buildings and moral
You should cover armor next also great video
I will eventually, there is just so much to cover in this game 😅
In my own experience, ICBM usage can be really different from a game to another. Some times, people won't care even if you launch them and destroy some major cities. And you will be dead next morning because you invested too much in missiles and not enough in everything else. BUT it happened to me that people can actually get really scared, especially if you can use one ICBM as a warning shot, and they can even sometimes think that you are a pay to win player, and then dissuasion begins.
I remember that one game that I won partly due to ICBMs because the other main team got so scared that they let us take a lot of land, and when they were ready to do something about us, it was too late. All of this because of nuclear dissuasion ! (And at the end of the game, all ICBMs were on their cities anyway lol)
Thanks!!
I've never used nukes before. If I or someone in my coalition nukes a city and then I send troops there, will they take damage because of the radiation?
Nope! The first time I went into a irradiated city, I thought my troops would take damage, but this isn't Civ 6 I guess.
how do i launch warheads
In the missile description in the tech tree, it will tell you what platforms you can launch missiles from. This is after you have made warheads in secret weapons labs.
How do you fire warheads the first one?
To fire warheads, you need a missile platform that can fire them, such as a ballistic missile launcher to fire ballistic missiles. Cruise missiles can be fired by many things, like UAVs, ships and so-on.
But how we can research the platforms used to fire them? I don’t find it thank you
Each missile type that is researched automatically unlocked the ground missile platform that goes with it.
6:46 the missile just made the fighter into a missile then disappears
Missiles can actually spot enemy units (for some reason), which is why you saw those fighters.
Bro where do I research the icbm launchers
ICBM launchers are researched in the missiles tab. After researching all warhead types, when you research the ICBM, it upgrades both your ICBM launcher and your missile.
For me, one of the downsides of CON is the chemical/nuclear option. Researching, buying, and launching these missiles does not require any skill. For me the real appeal is to use strategy and tactics to outmanouver an opponent. Nukes are a blunt instrument the most inexperienced player can use, all they need is the time & resources.
Well an experienced player should know they have to take offensive action and research anti missile defensive weapons as soon as you see someone researching it through the news.
I've dealt with enemies who had nukes yet never had the opportunity to destroy me because I am a very nuanced player. I read newspaper daily and prepare counter ASAP from day one.
They’re a strategic weapon and take great skill to use effectively. It may not be your preferred game style, but that doesn’t mean it’s inferior.
When you get one, it’s announced in the newspaper. And when you use one, it’s intimidating. I nearly lost a strong coalition partner after he got nuked. He got terrified and made peace with a common enemy instantly. The whole point of the game is that factors like this, including diplomacy, are part of the battle space - just like real life. There are other games out there that are more tactically based. If you like that, cool. There’s no need to denigrate how others play. If it works, it works.
@@simpletruth1369 What unit launch warheads?
@@simpletruth1369 iwant to try
@@simpletruth1369did you spend all 250K gold?
What unit launch warheads?
All missiles have corresponding missile launchers that you can build once you research a specific missile type.
Ballistic missiles can also be launched from missile subs and the elite bomber. A lot of units can launch cruise missiles, from jets, to cruisers, to the ground launcher.
Launching from Frigates is the way to go!
Yeah, the fact that Elite Frigates can use missiles really makes them versatile.
How do i launch conventional warheads?
You need research the minimum level cruise missile or ballistic missile. To launch ballistic missiles, you either need missile submarines, elite bombers, or ballistic missile launchers. To launch ballistic cruise missiles, there are a lot of platforms that fire those.
@@waralwayschangeshow i can use them i have a lot but i cant use them tf help
@@MistikFistik-m1g Under the missiles mobilize tab (the same tab that you made your warheads) are the missile launchers. One way to use your warheads is to launch missiles from these platforms. Once you have a missile launcher mobilized, you can press the missile icon to select a target to attack.
Do the maximum level bunkers protect my entire population without anyone dying even if a nuclear bomb is launched at me?
Yes, but only for 1 hit. After that the bunkers will be damaged to some extent.
Best warhead uses:
- Conventional is used for Armor, Naval, and Aircraft that are on land
- Chemical is used for soft targets (recommended if the ememy’s defense is higher than yours)
- As Nuclear is used for Buildings and Population, it’s is useful to destroy Enemy Units that have a high stack
Missile Worth:
Ballistic is good if you’re starting in Europe as you may have 27 countries.
Cruise is always worth it
ICBMs aren’t worth it unless you like to spend your resources
Edit 1: added missile worth and changed Warhead best uses
That is a pretty good summary. Though I will say, nukes used to take out large stacks of enemies is sometimes more worth it than nuking a city.
Honestly just research Nuclear warheads and max out ballistic missile, it does everything, also they shoud add hyper sonic missiles
@@kiper4k85 check this time stamp 6:19 and pause it + Use Conventional and Chemical Warheads, you need it for your units to have higher attack than Enemy’s Defense
Amazing 👏.
But how do you protect your cities and troops from all kind of missiles,help pls
I am planning on making a missile defense video in the future at some point, but my quick advice would be to have enough SAMs and theater defence in the cities you care about so that the defence plus the attack combined are enough to do 40 damage to missiles. This will protect you from all ICBMs and below, most likely.
@@waralwayschanges What unit launch warheads
@@cresildabantayan2875 Quite a variety of units can. Once you research cruise missiles, many types of ships, aircraft and the cruise missile launcher can fire those. Ballistic missile submarines, ballistic missile launchers and the elite bomber can launch ballistic missiles. Only the ICBM launcher can launch ICBMs. When you research a new type of missile, it unlocks the ground-based launcher for that specific type of missile.
Me who currently has an icbm launcher and weve techincally already won:
Aww man😔😂
Nice work,btw do u like awacs, mobile radar or the uav drone?
I personally love the UAV, especially at max level. And I think I'd rather use radar vs AWACS for the most part.
Usually i just use 8 submarines or more and launch 16 or more Nuclear Balistic Missiles
I haven't used that tactic yet. It sounds like a ton of fun!
@@waralwayschanges Yeah, for example One time i destroyed 10 Cities
@@spacetraveler2008 doesnt your morale drop an insane amount after that?
@@musicalleds1205yea because my morale was very high then I nuked all of japans city’s three times and next thing I know my city and smoking and rouge state tryna conquered them
But if the enemy places his theatre systems in the center of his city, he can shoot down any missles without reloading
If the attack and defense is high enough to take out all of the hp of that missile, yes. Having a level 1 theatre defense will not take our a max level icmb, for example.
@@waralwayschanges then if your enemy has some theatre systems placed in the city, it is impossible to nuke his city
@@belmc1539 use special forces to take out his anti missile system or use bombers
(Google translator)
The creators of CoN are breaking the game more and more, so I play less. after last year's update which took away one city with components. Instead of adding one city, they deleted it, so there are even fewer units in the game and it should be the other way around. The beginning was boring and now it has become even slower and forces players to play for money.
1. the development of the country at the beginning of the game is even slower
2. the number of units, which was small, is even smaller
3. The game forces players to use money more often
The fourth update broke what man was used to.
4. make changes that cause bugs - why change something that is good, especially if it can't be improved :P
5. map 2050 for 100 players is graphically underdeveloped, and above all strategically in terms of sea logistics - the roads on which ships move are often hopeless labyrinths that prevent a normal naval battle.
Not only that, the map does not even show where the shallows are and where the sea is full. This map, despite an interesting idea, sucks :P and there are a lot of golden players :P
6. the amount of points to get 1850 is so small that the player ends the game before he can develop it properly - COMPLETELY NO SENSE
7. Zoom out of the map should be larger. Later in the game it's very annoying, in Call of War they did it much better.
8. It would be nice if each country was different and had extra bonuses
9. they should eliminate this child icon (advisers who say nothing specific, only disturb and annoy)
This strategy has its splendor years behind it and unfortunately it is slowly moving towards call of war :P (supposedly maybe because a year earlier some employees were delegated from call of war to CoN and here we have a weak effect ... :P )
I'm going to play this winter anyway, but I've stopped taking the game seriously. :)
can someone pls explain me how many anti rocket systems (max lvl) I need to defend a ICBM (max lvl).
2
Either 2 or 3
Max level ICBMs have an HP of 40, max level theaters have a defense and attack of 16. 2 will destroy an ICBM if they get an attack and defending hit on it, but if it does not attack (very common), or if a smart player uses splash damage to hit you without triggering defense, you're hosed. 3 is the safe bet, but if you have a lot of cities close to each other, the overlapping missile defense means you don't need as many.
@@waralwayschanges what if i send 2 ICBM to attack, will the second one hit?
@@duke9877 That is tricky. Basically, you would hope that the first one sets off the AA so that when your 2nd one lands it is during the reload period. This is quite hard to intentionally do, and don't expect to do it accidentally. If your enemy has too good of theater defense, it's not really worth trying to nuke them most of the time.
It was 1yr ago so ....
1:52 not only submarines and ground but also elite units
Yeah, I've gotta make an updated video on missiles, especially with how much I learned.
Nothing can beat a strong navy
Unless you are Chad, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Bolivia, Afghanistan, Dr Congo, Austria, or have a LOT of NPAs & ASW helicopters.