This conversation is vital. I do believe there’s artist out right now that 10 years ago we would have said, “He/she needs a little discipleship first before we let him loose.” Facts.
Wow. Growing up in the faith and embarking on this CHH journey with music from you guys I have really been blessed and edified by this talk. I think I belong to the second wave. Lol. And from listening to this it has helped me to see what my role is in guiding the gen zers. God bless what you are doing Flame & Da TRUTH. I have been edified and will take up the mission of spreading this word to my sphere of influence. The harvest is plenty but the laborers are few. Learning a lot from you guys. May God continue using you greatly. Keep the podcasts coming.
You could tell this was a tough conversation for the both of ya,....but I'm so glad ya are having a healthy dialog about it and expressing it the way ya did.
Great conversation, fellas. I agree with the need for various ways rap music can be presented. Traditionally, the Apostle Paul style was the view people held as the only way, but it's cool to use the book of Ester as an example. God's name was not mentioned once in the Book of Esther, but his attributes was highlighted throughout the text. As long as the artist illustrates the characteristics of God in their crafts, I think it's all good. However, once you remove God's attributes from your presentation and development of your art, that's where the issue begins. Once again, great video and keep up the great work.
No identity is a lack of Discipleship....I believe Crossmovement was emplimenting the stability christian Hip Hop would need because at the time the backlash the criticism the not being excepted they needed a strong Foundation in Christ to stand and withstand what they would face...Ambassador always influenced my life with rap and teaching that provoked me to go deeper and Truth you and Flame as well...I believe they did what need to be done built the foundation to go forth in the right perspective of Christ and His life being given to the urban community...just my thoughts fellas
yow the beginning of this video of you both laughing...had me cracking up because I know this debate has been longsuffering and never-ending for you both hahaha....but glad yall did it, it was extremely helpful to those who needed clarify, direction and consistency in their belief.... love ups from Trinidad-sister Becky, Open House Concert Fam #openhousetrinidad #heartbeatevents
This question is entertaining. When we say Christian Hip Hop are we talking about Da Truth and Flame? What about Evangel, Bizzle, Shai Linne, or The Tonic? I wouldn't call them Christian Hip Hop, but rather I'd call them by their name. So after seeing several names, I have some ideas on the topic. Answer #2: Christian Hip Hop is a term to group together all of the guys that you have never heard of. So then what makes them Christian rappers? One of two things: A) The flashed a quote that identified them with the genre. This quote "I'm unashamed". You didn't have to say of what, you just had to say you were unashamed. Now that speaker is part of a bigger movement. B) You had to rap, and then personify or metaphor your issue and put a Biblical moniker in the place of a real word. What's an example? The rapper wants to say they would like to overdose on illegal drugs-"I get drunk on the spirit/high on the most high". The rapper likes murder-"I shoot demons". The rapper wants to win a rap battle contest for street credit-"Satan knows me and is scared". If you realize that this is all it takes to make something Christian, then all you need to is wait until something else is established...and then plagiarize the theme but swap your own keywords in. Church talk or Christianese always has new buzzwords that can be used for this. Ten years ago this wasn't absurd or embarrassing. Now it isn't as trendy to behave like this so this the end of so much Christian rap.
This question is amusing. Depending on how long you have listened to Christian Hip Hop you are going to come up with different replies. If they made it specific to "What went wrong after " then it would be a quick explanation. I have some ideas on the general topic. Answer #1: I had a friend once say 7 years ago "I don't listen to it because there is nothing good". So I downloaded everything from Rapzilla and brought a notebook on the bus to write down "good" tracks to make playlists. I ended up reviewing over 300 albums & EPs. I noticed something. Before the internet, let's say pre 2005 i.e. Streaming & Social Networking, you couldn't find a music video or much hype for a group (I live in Canada). Imagine listening to a Cross Movement CD and not knowing which one was Ambassador because you had never seen his face say one word. To get heard you needed to roll with a team. Not just a label but larger amount of voices. Think about European footballers and how the fans love the team by the city is called after. After the internet, let's say people use the cellphones to get info and not local stores i.e. >2005, there were announcements about what is new and up and coming. Now you new people's names and interviews were just as prevalent as the content. Singles were released to stay relevant. Now you think about something like the NBA draft, where people get excited about getting that one guy to make their team a winner. This mentality about who signed with who changed things. Unsigned rappers took on a mentality that they were going to explode once they got recognized and no one could refute them because the internet allowed them to claim they had several projects on the go. Before the internet my 300 album/EP collection would have never reached 30. Thus the illusion of a genre, which was really just bloat.
When I first started to take my walk seriously, these were the first two artists that I was into. So there is the nostalgia factor in it. MC Ren had said in an interview that most people love hearing from the N.W.A era Ren but his music is better now. I think once both artists fulfilled their contractual obligations to Cross Movement, we tend to forget about them but they both have had material that was good as if not better than their CM material.
This question is saddening. Musical artists at the height of CHH were always trying to collaborate with another genre in order to express solidarity. This means, getting a hook to be sung by Praise and Worship band or R&B artist or rock band. It really showed that Christ was common first and not just genre. If it really is a Christian thing...does the Bible have any examples for us? Answer #4: Man is as a vapour, the flower of grass. How long did we really expect to be celebrated with one work? Maybe by thinking it was Christian we wanted it to last forever, like Christ on the throne. Heaven and Earth shall pass away but My Words shall not pass away. You can't out rap whoever said that (hint: God). Parable of the talents. Faithful in little, faithful in much. Many stewards were faithful in giving their testimony of the living God over beats. Tons of successful efforts were realized. Thanks to God for this is the correct response. But if someone wants to talk about how God blessing these people to succeed was ultimately a fail...that's their own perception. Saul was made king and God made it happen; it was not a fail nor did it go wrong. King Manasseh is another example, repented and it all changed. If any of these artists apart of "Where CHH went wrong" repented...it would be on fire again. God is truly that big. Amen.
Tbh, there's only 2 CHH artists I really check for nowadays, that's Eshon Burgundy and Reconcile (his recent joint, streets don't love you). I like Young Noah's music too sometimes. But I just feel like only Eshon and Reconcile bring more than something to bop to, you know. ❤️✝️🙏🏾
I love the direction you two are going in collaboratively regarding the faith and Christian Hip Hop. However, this conversation is one dimensional. Instead of speculating or assuming the possible areas where chh went wrong why not open your platform to allow us independents to give more perspective? I don't think this is a generational issue in any way, although I agree with a lot of your points. I speak with many individuals in chh, both with those in mainstream as well as the independents. You guys barely scratched the surface of the issues going on behind chh. But, the convo is a great start! Keep pressing!
My things is I don't see any problem with Christian rappers working with secular artist. I think the problem is when the message of Christ is non-existent 😅. Work with whoever you want but both artist when they get in the booth they intentions are to rep Christ.
Do You Take Into Account Of What The Non-Christian Artist Does Before he Spits On A Christian Artist Song And After That Ungodly Secular Artist Does After Leaving The Booth?
This question is hilarious. Christian Hip Hop as a term really just means music projects and concerts. But Hip Hop as a term refers to a culture, i.e. Fine Arts for the commoner. This means dance, music, visual art, musical instruments, hobbies, food, and clothing. Christian Hip Hop can't really hold its own weight as a term against other music genres. Let me think of some examples. Answer #3: Techno and Rock have gone a few decades but have changed names and subgenres countless times. I can't imagine that there are people in their circles saying "where did Trance [or Americana] go wrong?". This is because they are a staple of a certain decade. Nothing wrong with the rise and fall of popularity; we have to share our moments. Does Christian Hip Hop have its own musical instrument like the Christian Music Sampler or Christian Record player? Of course not. It doesn't have it's own Christian Graffiti tag or Christian breakdance move. This is because a person is a Christian and not something intangible. Yet still, let's keep Christian Hip Hop as its own entity. Rap music then had to be defined as Secular Hip Hop. People got to make David and Goliath statements about how it would take over. Going by the numbers (in any arena EXCEPT for souls saved) and the defining characteristics of what it was a culture...I think it got treated a little too seriously and couldn't pull off what we hoped for it. If people were just content with enjoying the collection of songs, and not immortalizing a movement, we wouldn't have to say that it went wrong. Each album could be appreciated as its own memory, and not proof of perpetual energy generated from our own machinations. Then again, wasn't it always the fans making most of these claims?
I def fee you. As an artist I’m always trying to grow, so things different and stretch myself. What causes me to stop listening to some artist is they sound too much like the world, criticize secular artist but steal their style and beats. They stop growing and just copy what’s going on. I feel chh stayed in Jerusalem, we were called to start in Jerusalem and go to the world so you maybe be best in another lane Truth
Man, dont be mad if i still rock a moment of truth or who can pluck us out his hands. The albums are greatest of all time, atleast for me. I been down from the beginning bro 20+ years of christian hip hop history.
Brian Atkinson they not saying that they just saying when people are telling them to make songs like that, it’s almost a diss like there new stuff isn’t good or the fan wants “a new high” that they got in the past. I feel u I still pump the old cmr labels and lamp mode but I like the new the stuff they put n pump to that too. That’s all they want is respect for the new. But I feel you man
What's wrong with Christain Rappers now a days is Jesus is slowly removed from there music. In the beginning it's all about Jesus. Then after a while they switch up the music to praise themselves. They don't want to be known as Christian Rapper Only because they want carnel fame and acceptances. Indirectly, telling christian fans we are not enough...and they are spiritually saying what Jesus is offering is not enough. That's why we go back to listening to the beginning of the rap songs because it was all about Jesus....
THE WORD OF GOD NEVER CHANGES🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️. Sorry gentlemen, but I ONLY “bump” all of your old music because it’s rich in scripture. Da T.R.U.T.H. I have “listened” to your newer projects, but I’ve shelved them and I ONLY BUMP “The Big Picture” and before that. Flame, I’m not a fan of your rap style, BUT after seeing you last summer in 2019 at a concert and listening to your testimonies, I’ve gained respect for you, but after listening to this conversation, it seems like you’re conversation flip flops I guess depending on whose platform you’re on. I had a big struggle getting away from secular rap in 2008 and I was SOOOOO happy to come across allllllll of you. But I’m disappointed that you all would rather be known as ‘“Growing as Artists” instead of growing in Christ. I love all of you and wish y’all would bring it back to the center. Why are we still comparing ourselves to secular artists? We can preach, minister and disciple to the mainstream, but we should not be doing mixing Christian musical gift business with the mainstream. Christ said the way is narrow... please come back.... I’m not trying to cause dissension among the breathern, but Check out Bryann Trejo/Kingdom Muzic for the blueprint !!! They have no record deal and still make money for their families because they do it for the Lord, the audience of One.
Christian hip hop has to allow the Bible to dictate the culture . Christ came down to SaveSinners and that should be the motive in every Christian genre. And in your gifting your motive should be clear that Repentance leads to salvation .
Truth be told, you can rap however and for whichever audience you want as a Christian artist. If you have the spirit of God in you, other believers will rally behind you. Real recognise real. But you can't be practically anti-Christ and claim to be a Christian at the same time
as a millennial, I’m excited about where gen z is taking chh. the music is more stylistically relevant than ever, the lyrics are more well written than ever, and they’re communicating truths better than many who came before them, because they aren’t writing sermons or trying to be ministers - they’re writing songs from a worldview. music is entertainment, not primarily ministry. I’m equally grateful for the forefathers of chh, but let the kids do their thing. let the pastors preach the sermons.
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This conversation is vital. I do believe there’s artist out right now that 10 years ago we would have said, “He/she needs a little discipleship first before we let him loose.” Facts.
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I feel all of this! Two pillars
Wow. Growing up in the faith and embarking on this CHH journey with music from you guys I have really been blessed and edified by this talk. I think I belong to the second wave. Lol. And from listening to this it has helped me to see what my role is in guiding the gen zers. God bless what you are doing Flame & Da TRUTH. I have been edified and will take up the mission of spreading this word to my sphere of influence. The harvest is plenty but the laborers are few. Learning a lot from you guys. May God continue using you greatly. Keep the podcasts coming.
This Subject Deserves To Be Talked About Due To The Current State Of Christian Hip-hop.
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Dope fellas keep up the podcast really enjoy every episode these topics are definitely needed 🔥🔥🔥
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This blessed me on so many levels
What I think is weird and suspicious is all these Christians who don’t want to rap about GOD in some aspect in their music is suspect
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Facts
You could tell this was a tough conversation for the both of ya,....but I'm so glad ya are having a healthy dialog about it and expressing it the way ya did.
This is maad dope. We need more and more of these.
Get some other guests on too, including fellow rappers.
God bless.
Great conversation, fellas. I agree with the need for various ways rap music can be presented. Traditionally, the Apostle Paul style was the view people held as the only way, but it's cool to use the book of Ester as an example. God's name was not mentioned once in the Book of Esther, but his attributes was highlighted throughout the text. As long as the artist illustrates the characteristics of God in their crafts, I think it's all good. However, once you remove God's attributes from your presentation and development of your art, that's where the issue begins. Once again, great video and keep up the great work.
Add music to your introduction. Maybe even let it ride very low volume in the backround. Just my thoughts brus, take it or leave it! God Bless!!!
No identity is a lack of Discipleship....I believe Crossmovement was emplimenting the stability christian Hip Hop would need because at the time the backlash the criticism the not being excepted they needed a strong Foundation in Christ to stand and withstand what they would face...Ambassador always influenced my life with rap and teaching that provoked me to go deeper and Truth you and Flame as well...I believe they did what need to be done built the foundation to go forth in the right perspective of Christ and His life being given to the urban community...just my thoughts fellas
Soooooo upset I’m just tuning in!! But better late than never!! Great convo!!!
always look forward to these podcasts
yow the beginning of this video of you both laughing...had me cracking up because I know this debate has been longsuffering and never-ending for you both hahaha....but glad yall did it, it was extremely helpful to those who needed clarify, direction and consistency in their belief.... love ups from Trinidad-sister Becky, Open House Concert Fam #openhousetrinidad #heartbeatevents
Dope convo. important topic, glad ya'll fought through it - I could tell this wasnt an easy topic to speak on for ya..
This question is entertaining.
When we say Christian Hip Hop are we talking about Da Truth and Flame? What about Evangel, Bizzle, Shai Linne, or The Tonic? I wouldn't call them Christian Hip Hop, but rather I'd call them by their name. So after seeing several names, I have some ideas on the topic.
Answer #2:
Christian Hip Hop is a term to group together all of the guys that you have never heard of. So then what makes them Christian rappers? One of two things:
A) The flashed a quote that identified them with the genre. This quote "I'm unashamed". You didn't have to say of what, you just had to say you were unashamed. Now that speaker is part of a bigger movement.
B) You had to rap, and then personify or metaphor your issue and put a Biblical moniker in the place of a real word. What's an example? The rapper wants to say they would like to overdose on illegal drugs-"I get drunk on the spirit/high on the most high". The rapper likes murder-"I shoot demons". The rapper wants to win a rap battle contest for street credit-"Satan knows me and is scared".
If you realize that this is all it takes to make something Christian, then all you need to is wait until something else is established...and then plagiarize the theme but swap your own keywords in. Church talk or Christianese always has new buzzwords that can be used for this. Ten years ago this wasn't absurd or embarrassing. Now it isn't as trendy to behave like this so this the end of so much Christian rap.
Good conversation about being who you are in God without violating HIS boundaries. Thanks Da T.R.U.T. H and Flame
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This question is amusing.
Depending on how long you have listened to Christian Hip Hop you are going to come up with different replies. If they made it specific to "What went wrong after " then it would be a quick explanation. I have some ideas on the general topic.
Answer #1:
I had a friend once say 7 years ago "I don't listen to it because there is nothing good". So I downloaded everything from Rapzilla and brought a notebook on the bus to write down "good" tracks to make playlists. I ended up reviewing over 300 albums & EPs. I noticed something.
Before the internet, let's say pre 2005 i.e. Streaming & Social Networking, you couldn't find a music video or much hype for a group (I live in Canada). Imagine listening to a Cross Movement CD and not knowing which one was Ambassador because you had never seen his face say one word. To get heard you needed to roll with a team. Not just a label but larger amount of voices. Think about European footballers and how the fans love the team by the city is called after.
After the internet, let's say people use the cellphones to get info and not local stores i.e. >2005, there were announcements about what is new and up and coming. Now you new people's names and interviews were just as prevalent as the content. Singles were released to stay relevant. Now you think about something like the NBA draft, where people get excited about getting that one guy to make their team a winner. This mentality about who signed with who changed things.
Unsigned rappers took on a mentality that they were going to explode once they got recognized and no one could refute them because the internet allowed them to claim they had several projects on the go. Before the internet my 300 album/EP collection would have never reached 30. Thus the illusion of a genre, which was really just bloat.
Great Podcasts! Long overdue!
When I first started to take my walk seriously, these were the first two artists that I was into. So there is the nostalgia factor in it. MC Ren had said in an interview that most people love hearing from the N.W.A era Ren but his music is better now. I think once both artists fulfilled their contractual obligations to Cross Movement, we tend to forget about them but they both have had material that was good as if not better than their CM material.
This question is saddening.
Musical artists at the height of CHH were always trying to collaborate with another genre in order to express solidarity. This means, getting a hook to be sung by Praise and Worship band or R&B artist or rock band. It really showed that Christ was common first and not just genre. If it really is a Christian thing...does the Bible have any examples for us?
Answer #4:
Man is as a vapour, the flower of grass. How long did we really expect to be celebrated with one work? Maybe by thinking it was Christian we wanted it to last forever, like Christ on the throne.
Heaven and Earth shall pass away but My Words shall not pass away. You can't out rap whoever said that (hint: God).
Parable of the talents. Faithful in little, faithful in much. Many stewards were faithful in giving their testimony of the living God over beats. Tons of successful efforts were realized. Thanks to God for this is the correct response. But if someone wants to talk about how God blessing these people to succeed was ultimately a fail...that's their own perception. Saul was made king and God made it happen; it was not a fail nor did it go wrong. King Manasseh is another example, repented and it all changed. If any of these artists apart of "Where CHH went wrong" repented...it would be on fire again. God is truly that big. Amen.
Cross movement 1st wave 97, Cross movement 2nd wave wave 2000, Reach records 3rd wave
It's not even about Christ. It's soo prideful and watered down looking more like the world.
Tbh, there's only 2 CHH artists I really check for nowadays, that's Eshon Burgundy and Reconcile (his recent joint, streets don't love you). I like Young Noah's music too sometimes. But I just feel like only Eshon and Reconcile bring more than something to bop to, you know. ❤️✝️🙏🏾
I don't think its a certain way but the substance shouldn't change
I love the direction you two are going in collaboratively regarding the faith and Christian Hip Hop. However, this conversation is one dimensional. Instead of speculating or assuming the possible areas where chh went wrong why not open your platform to allow us independents to give more perspective? I don't think this is a generational issue in any way, although I agree with a lot of your points. I speak with many individuals in chh, both with those in mainstream as well as the independents. You guys barely scratched the surface of the issues going on behind chh. But, the convo is a great start! Keep pressing!
My things is I don't see any problem with Christian rappers working with secular artist. I think the problem is when the message of Christ is non-existent 😅. Work with whoever you want but both artist when they get in the booth they intentions are to rep Christ.
Do You Take Into Account Of What The Non-Christian Artist Does Before he Spits On A Christian Artist Song And After That Ungodly Secular Artist Does After Leaving The Booth?
Growing for the better or for the worse?
LordofTheharvest73 Check out Bryann Trejo / Kingdom Muzic !!!
Some “growth” isn’t good. I think it’s turned into worse from some perspective
This question is hilarious.
Christian Hip Hop as a term really just means music projects and concerts. But Hip Hop as a term refers to a culture, i.e. Fine Arts for the commoner. This means dance, music, visual art, musical instruments, hobbies, food, and clothing. Christian Hip Hop can't really hold its own weight as a term against other music genres. Let me think of some examples.
Answer #3:
Techno and Rock have gone a few decades but have changed names and subgenres countless times. I can't imagine that there are people in their circles saying "where did Trance [or Americana] go wrong?". This is because they are a staple of a certain decade. Nothing wrong with the rise and fall of popularity; we have to share our moments.
Does Christian Hip Hop have its own musical instrument like the Christian Music Sampler or Christian Record player? Of course not. It doesn't have it's own Christian Graffiti tag or Christian breakdance move. This is because a person is a Christian and not something intangible. Yet still, let's keep Christian Hip Hop as its own entity. Rap music then had to be defined as Secular Hip Hop. People got to make David and Goliath statements about how it would take over. Going by the numbers (in any arena EXCEPT for souls saved) and the defining characteristics of what it was a culture...I think it got treated a little too seriously and couldn't pull off what we hoped for it.
If people were just content with enjoying the collection of songs, and not immortalizing a movement, we wouldn't have to say that it went wrong. Each album could be appreciated as its own memory, and not proof of perpetual energy generated from our own machinations. Then again, wasn't it always the fans making most of these claims?
I def fee you. As an artist I’m always trying to grow, so things different and stretch myself. What causes me to stop listening to some artist is they sound too much like the world, criticize secular artist but steal their style and beats. They stop growing and just copy what’s going on. I feel chh stayed in Jerusalem, we were called to start in Jerusalem and go to the world so you maybe be best in another lane Truth
Flame was and is real and not afraid to show it.
Man, dont be mad if i still rock a moment of truth or who can pluck us out his hands. The albums are greatest of all time, atleast for me. I been down from the beginning bro 20+ years of christian hip hop history.
Brian Atkinson they not saying that they just saying when people are telling them to make songs like that, it’s almost a diss like there new stuff isn’t good or the fan wants “a new high” that they got in the past. I feel u I still pump the old cmr labels and lamp mode but I like the new the stuff they put n pump to that too. That’s all they want is respect for the new. But I feel you man
Mannnnnnn if you know how much people are in Mali Music comments asking for That "All the Glory Belongs to you " energy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What's wrong with Christain Rappers now a days is Jesus is slowly removed from there music. In the beginning it's all about Jesus. Then after a while they switch up the music to praise themselves. They don't want to be known as Christian Rapper Only because they want carnel fame and acceptances. Indirectly, telling christian fans we are not enough...and they are spiritually saying what Jesus is offering is not enough.
That's why we go back to listening to the beginning of the rap songs because it was all about Jesus....
THE WORD OF GOD NEVER CHANGES🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️. Sorry gentlemen, but I ONLY “bump” all of your old music because it’s rich in scripture. Da T.R.U.T.H. I have “listened” to your newer projects, but I’ve shelved them and I ONLY BUMP “The Big Picture” and before that. Flame, I’m not a fan of your rap style, BUT after seeing you last summer in 2019 at a concert and listening to your testimonies, I’ve gained respect for you, but after listening to this conversation, it seems like you’re conversation flip flops I guess depending on whose platform you’re on. I had a big struggle getting away from secular rap in 2008 and I was SOOOOO happy to come across allllllll of you. But I’m disappointed that you all would rather be known as ‘“Growing as Artists” instead of growing in Christ. I love all of you and wish y’all would bring it back to the center. Why are we still comparing ourselves to secular artists? We can preach, minister and disciple to the mainstream, but we should not be doing mixing Christian musical gift business with the mainstream. Christ said the way is narrow... please come back....
I’m not trying to cause dissension among the breathern, but Check out Bryann Trejo/Kingdom Muzic for the blueprint !!! They have no record deal and still make money for their families because they do it for the Lord, the audience of One.
We were not meant to go mainstream😒😒😒
Thanks For Sharing That.
Is there any chance for biblical conversations
??????
Is that flame? It is right. Yea it is! It sound like him
Christian hip hop has to allow the Bible to dictate the culture . Christ came down to SaveSinners and that should be the motive in every Christian genre. And in your gifting your motive should be clear that Repentance leads to salvation .
AMEN
Truth be told, you can rap however and for whichever audience you want as a Christian artist. If you have the spirit of God in you, other believers will rally behind you. Real recognise real. But you can't be practically anti-Christ and claim to be a Christian at the same time
Lecrae?
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as a millennial, I’m excited about where gen z is taking chh. the music is more stylistically relevant than ever, the lyrics are more well written than ever, and they’re communicating truths better than many who came before them, because they aren’t writing sermons or trying to be ministers - they’re writing songs from a worldview. music is entertainment, not primarily ministry. I’m equally grateful for the forefathers of chh, but let the kids do their thing. let the pastors preach the sermons.
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Christian hip hop lost its soul. Lost its substance since 2002
Enough With The Nas And Jay Examples And References.
Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning
It’s all good. You gotta use the most relevant well known people in order for everybody to understand the points they are trying to make.
@@KBshyne
You Mean Name Drop Clout Chase?
The World And The Lost Big Them Up Enuff!
Kyle Manning what did you think about the topic besides Nas & Jay Z ? Thanks bro !
@@earhustler08
You Very Welcome.
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@Kyle Manning
I read your thoughts on bro thanks for sharing