First, she only mentioned American heroes because she's an American junior high schoolteacher (i.e. she teaches kids aged 11 to 13), not a professor of world history. Second, the art style perfectly fits the talk, because the talk itself is directed at younger audiences, which is why the art style is that of a cartoon. How could this have possibly gone over your head?
Virtues - they are important but easy to forget in our daily life. By remembering our role models from time to time, we can be a little bigger than before, I hope. :)
Thank you. I'm not necessarily disappointed by the topics of the videos, just that the examples and analogies used are often very culture centric. For instance, I would assume there are numerous historical role models from around the world that demonstrate the qualities mentioned here, but the creators chose to highlight only North American figures. That's what kills my buzz, but I will definitely check out that link :)
Oh, give me a break. The reason they never fought at night or in the winter was because it's just plain harder to fight at night or in the winter in the days before artificial heat and lighting. It was practicality, not gentlemanly honor that kept large armies from fighting in those conditions. For that matter, pre-industrial battles would be postponed for days over the wind, the rain, etc., just because THOSE conditions would be advantageous/disadvantageous for one side or the other.
Everyone needs to relax about this video being American centric. She should have changed the title to American Historical Role Models but anyone chosen would irritate someone out there. This is why we have the freedom to watch any videos we want! (and make comments)! Freedom of Speech! Gotta love it! -- but I know half of you will find fault with the American idea of Freedom of Speech (and most of you will do it from your American living room! Go for it! --THen smile ;)
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That's a poor excuse for the anger shown by many of the ignorant posters complaining, especially considering the video isn't even about the historical figures themselves, but the virtues they (supposedly) exemplify. Not to mention the video's description explicitly states: "Many notable AMERICAN historical figures are considered role models -- but why?"
Correct, but inhabitants of a region are more directly affected by the historical events of their region than they are by historical events in other parts of the world. And the woman speaking in the video is a schoolteacher of American seventh graders.
It again comes to Ms. Bissetta and that she is talking about historical figures, but specifically Americans. And therefore people get a bit angry, because they think the title of the video is misleading.
First, read the VERY FIRST SENTENCE in the description. This video is not about the historical figures themselves, it's about the virtues they supposedly embody. The nationality and even the individuals are irrelevant. More important are the anecdotes she recounts. Second, this isn't a classroom lesson, it's a 5-min video. Look at any of the other 5-10 minute TED Ed vids, and they're all a little low on maturity compared to what you might expect in an actual classroom on the same topic.
Another thing is - it doesn't matter if she is seventh grade schoolteacher. You can talk about all sorts of things. And I'm sure she knows non-american historical role models too. BUT at the end everything comes to the description of the video, which blows away every ignorant comment (including few of mine, because I didn't pay attention when I had to). Have a nice day/night! :)
The whole point of these TedEd videos is to reach a younger audience. Not every video is going to be for the very critical and serious viewer. I think kids would enjoy watching this video and would learn a lot from. Yes, some of it is oversimplified but children aren't apt to understand ambiguous details.
Lincolns intentions wasnt to free the slaves, he simply realised that by making that his primary mission that it would motivate other states to join and it would give him support from europe, the emancipation only freed slaves in the south, there were still slaves up north.
You're a child if you think that in a time of war, people will respect and abide each other's code of honor on the basis of ethics. Find me a war where it was fought cleanly and honorably.
Not sure I've ever heard anybody consider attacking on a holiday anything but a good tactic. Maybe you could come up with a less petty example of hypocrisy.
"Then they've should called the video American Role Models." Why? George Washington and Lincoln aren't "historical role models"? For some reason, only Americans seem to be targeted for this kind of thing. If this video had been made in France and featured only French historical figures, I doubt there would be anybody bitching about it. "And why is it wrong to teach American students history from all over the world" It's not wrong, but it's also not necessary (until they are older).
George Washington wasn't a smarty pants. He was a terrible general, lost the majority of his battles and wasn't an out-of-the-ordinary strategizer. He was physically imposing, being a tall, broad shouldered man, and fit the bill for the perfect face of an iconic leader in looks only.
You probably picked the worst example there in the French, because they do this all the time. "And then the Free French heroically defeated the Nazi's, and maybe there was like, an American around. You know, as Reinforcements. The British? Who?"
it really takes serious smarts to attack your enemy on a holiday! onowait that was just one part of an arsenal of dirty tactics they used. let's celebrate the fact that one side broke an unspoken truce to not attack in return for not being attacked on a day of peace...
George Washington to me was a bad role model. Kept slaves like other founding fathers because they enjoyed it and thought it'd settle out on its own. Bad general through the first half of the revolution, and not even truthfully the first president. I like Nikola Tesla as a role model. He was an inventor, making an idea revolutionizing tech to become so much longer range with power, changing basement generators to natural wonders powering those areas of the world.
Good point, but then who would stop Japan? Without the US, Asia would be Japan. Well, it gets more complicated since were talking about changing history. I'll just leave it at that.
We're not talking about 4 year olds haha I would say mid to late elementary school students may watch this. (American) Children who don't know about Paul Reveree are likely not advanced enough to understand the moral ideas and behaviors this video encourages,
Seriously TED, if your plan is to make educational videos that are culturally specific to North American's then you are doing a fantastic job. Although If you are trying to cater to an international audience, I am disappointed in your efforts so far. Every second video is centered around North American history and cultural beliefs.
Are people disliking this video because all the examples are American? That's a petty reason. Let's leave the nationalistic zealotry behind and focus on the lesson, yes?
Great. Now I feel bad becouse I'm not achieving those virtues. A better lesson would be to show that those historical figures also had flawed virtues. But inspite of that continued to do great things...
I am always wary of believing the standard unquestioned narrative about a person that lived long before any of us began to exist. Abraham Lincoln was against slavery, not because of his love for the black man or justice, but because he was annoyed that white people were without jobs, because getting a slave to do something for free when a white man would want to get paid for it made more economic sense to farmers. Be intelligent, wise, and brave. Always question what you're told.
Although these are all great role models with great traits, is this not a radically oversimplified idea when it comes to figures and their legacies? I mean the truth is muh more complicated- George Washington supported slavery for instance. These mixed legacies IMO create much more interesting and realistic questions about role models.
Then they've should called the video American Role Models. And why is it wrong to teach American students history from all over the world, not only America?
George Washington attacks on a holiday = hero Viet Cong attack on a holiday (tet offensive) = villains Maybe if they were American they'd be role models
You mean to tell me that justice is a virtue that is good for us? What are you, crazy? Demanding or supporting "justice" have never helped anyone. An eye for an eye will make the entire world blind.
I'm not a professor of world history either but I know about these people. Teachers should teach children about other countries for respect, instead of fueling nationalists. If she doesn't know about the people I said, she needs training. The cartoon did not go over my head; children do not like to be treated like children when it comes to teaching them - Especially 11-13 year old. The art style should work with what she's saying not distract, but instead it's distracting and immature.
Childish? Who's the crying that only American heros were mentioned? If you feel insulted or left out that's your problem. Get over it. You're acting like you weren't giving a piece a candy when all the other kids got one.
This is oversimplifying history. First, Abraham Lincoln's intention initially with the Civil War was the preserve the Union. His emancipation freed slaves only in Confederate States not the border states allied with the union. Also, "he kept the United States united" has some inaccuracy. Yes, the south was back with the union but they still kept differing ideologies from the north which help start the KKK. Also, at the time, abolitionists believed in abolition but not necessarily giving blacks any rights so I can't say what they believed in was all the right thing to do.
Uhm, could TED think a little out of the box? I mean like, i could think of a lot more role models who did greater deeds than these 3-6 americans showed in the video. The whole setup of the episode was very banal and childish.
this does not reflect the world and the first example given actually is against some virtues. look more into the reasoning of protocols in war unsubscribed
Is this the best art style for this kind of talk? Seems to childish (it's creepy and distracting) Also why did you only exclusively mention American Heroes? Why not mention people who didn't live in for instance: Gandhi, Moses, William Wilberforce, any members of the Suffragette Movement (Take your pick). You also forgot to mention the downfalls of these people one minute you are praising a slave trader the next you are praising the man who abolished slavery. Talk about cherry-picking.
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Not all of us consider "an eye for an eye" justice. That tells us more about what you think than anything else.
First, she only mentioned American heroes because she's an American junior high schoolteacher (i.e. she teaches kids aged 11 to 13), not a professor of world history.
Second, the art style perfectly fits the talk, because the talk itself is directed at younger audiences, which is why the art style is that of a cartoon. How could this have possibly gone over your head?
Virtues - they are important but easy to forget in our daily life. By remembering our role models from time to time, we can be a little bigger than before, I hope. :)
Thank you.
I'm not necessarily disappointed by the topics of the videos, just that the examples and analogies used are often very culture centric. For instance, I would assume there are numerous historical role models from around the world that demonstrate the qualities mentioned here, but the creators chose to highlight only North American figures. That's what kills my buzz, but I will definitely check out that link :)
one thought was in my head while watching this...... WHAT.... ON........EARTH
Oh, give me a break. The reason they never fought at night or in the winter was because it's just plain harder to fight at night or in the winter in the days before artificial heat and lighting. It was practicality, not gentlemanly honor that kept large armies from fighting in those conditions.
For that matter, pre-industrial battles would be postponed for days over the wind, the rain, etc., just because THOSE conditions would be advantageous/disadvantageous for one side or the other.
Everyone needs to relax about this video being American centric. She should have changed the title to American Historical Role Models but anyone chosen would irritate someone out there. This is why we have the freedom to watch any videos we want! (and make comments)! Freedom of Speech! Gotta love it! -- but I know half of you will find fault with the American idea of Freedom of Speech (and most of you will do it from your American living room! Go for it! --THen smile ;)
Thanks for your comment. We totally agree and would love more Lessons on history around the world. If you or anyone you know would like to submit a Lesson or nominate an educator, please do so on our website (ed dot ted dot com) in the Get Involved Section. We look forward to hearing your ideas!
:53 didn't she also complete her ride and wasn't caught as well something he didn't do
what's with the abrupt ending in the midst of the story?
That's a poor excuse for the anger shown by many of the ignorant posters complaining, especially considering the video isn't even about the historical figures themselves, but the virtues they (supposedly) exemplify.
Not to mention the video's description explicitly states:
"Many notable AMERICAN historical figures are considered role models -- but why?"
Correct, but inhabitants of a region are more directly affected by the historical events of their region than they are by historical events in other parts of the world. And the woman speaking in the video is a schoolteacher of American seventh graders.
It again comes to Ms. Bissetta and that she is talking about historical figures, but specifically Americans. And therefore people get a bit angry, because they think the title of the video is misleading.
First, read the VERY FIRST SENTENCE in the description. This video is not about the historical figures themselves, it's about the virtues they supposedly embody. The nationality and even the individuals are irrelevant. More important are the anecdotes she recounts.
Second, this isn't a classroom lesson, it's a 5-min video. Look at any of the other 5-10 minute TED Ed vids, and they're all a little low on maturity compared to what you might expect in an actual classroom on the same topic.
Another thing is - it doesn't matter if she is seventh grade schoolteacher. You can talk about all sorts of things. And I'm sure she knows non-american historical role models too. BUT at the end everything comes to the description of the video, which blows away every ignorant comment (including few of mine, because I didn't pay attention when I had to). Have a nice day/night! :)
All is fair in love and war yes.. the douchiness comes from the one presenting the video and characterizing it as a product of brilliance.. o m g..
The whole point of these TedEd videos is to reach a younger audience. Not every video is going to be for the very critical and serious viewer. I think kids would enjoy watching this video and would learn a lot from. Yes, some of it is oversimplified but children aren't apt to understand ambiguous details.
Lincolns intentions wasnt to free the slaves, he simply realised that by making that his primary mission that it would motivate other states to join and it would give him support from europe, the emancipation only freed slaves in the south, there were still slaves up north.
wait how did this video go from abraham lincoln to asking out a cute boy.
You're a child if you think that in a time of war, people will respect and abide each other's code of honor on the basis of ethics. Find me a war where it was fought cleanly and honorably.
If it's keyed towards younger audiences they shouldn't have said something like "I'm sure you know...". That distances the kids who didn't know.
Children need TED talks too...
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me that no one would be bitching about it?
It would also not be in her area of expertise. She's an American junior high school teacher, not a professor of history.
Because history doesn't happen only in one region at specific time period.
Not sure I've ever heard anybody consider attacking on a holiday anything but a good tactic. Maybe you could come up with a less petty example of hypocrisy.
Im not sure if this is well known or not, but Lincoln wanted to keep the country together WAY more than he wanted to free slaves.
Good point! Have fun arguing against a film that scored 7.6 on IMDb.
What's justice?
"Then they've should called the video American Role Models."
Why? George Washington and Lincoln aren't "historical role models"?
For some reason, only Americans seem to be targeted for this kind of thing. If this video had been made in France and featured only French historical figures, I doubt there would be anybody bitching about it.
"And why is it wrong to teach American students history from all over the world"
It's not wrong, but it's also not necessary (until they are older).
George Washington wasn't a smarty pants. He was a terrible general, lost the majority of his battles and wasn't an out-of-the-ordinary strategizer. He was physically imposing, being a tall, broad shouldered man, and fit the bill for the perfect face of an iconic leader in looks only.
Why not?
Why the dislikes ????
I agree.
Only winners become heroes!
Why should they?
I that's the point.
History is written by the victor. It is sad, but true.
You probably picked the worst example there in the French, because they do this all the time. "And then the Free French heroically defeated the Nazi's, and maybe there was like, an American around. You know, as Reinforcements. The British? Who?"
With a lot more people
Because apparently seventh grade schoolteachers in America must teach international history to their thirteen year old students.
dudes why all the dislikes
it really takes serious smarts to attack your enemy on a holiday!
onowait that was just one part of an arsenal of dirty tactics they used. let's celebrate the fact that one side broke an unspoken truce to not attack in return for not being attacked on a day of peace...
Hey, where'd you get your username from?
Didnn't Washington own slaves?
This video saddens me.
You should look at role models in Europe! but then again the video would then be 3 days long.
George Washington to me was a bad role model.
Kept slaves like other founding fathers because they enjoyed it and thought it'd settle out on its own. Bad general through the first half of the revolution, and not even truthfully the first president.
I like Nikola Tesla as a role model.
He was an inventor, making an idea revolutionizing tech to become so much longer range with power, changing basement generators to natural wonders powering those areas of the world.
Good point, but then who would stop Japan? Without the US, Asia would be Japan. Well, it gets more complicated since were talking about changing history. I'll just leave it at that.
We're not talking about 4 year olds haha I would say mid to late elementary school students may watch this. (American) Children who don't know about Paul Reveree are likely not advanced enough to understand the moral ideas and behaviors this video encourages,
Seriously TED, if your plan is to make educational videos that are culturally specific to North American's then you are doing a fantastic job. Although If you are trying to cater to an international audience, I am disappointed in your efforts so far. Every second video is centered around North American history and cultural beliefs.
Are people disliking this video because all the examples are American? That's a petty reason. Let's leave the nationalistic zealotry behind and focus on the lesson, yes?
Then the land that the US had would be split by Russia (Alaska), Mexico, France, and Britain. And WW2 would've been lost.
Could you not have thought of any non-American role models to appeal to a wider range of audience?
Great. Now I feel bad becouse I'm not achieving those virtues. A better lesson would be to show that those historical figures also had flawed virtues. But inspite of that continued to do great things...
Try not to look too deeply into it.
It's always been that way. The winner writes the history.
I am always wary of believing the standard unquestioned narrative about a person that lived long before any of us began to exist. Abraham Lincoln was against slavery, not because of his love for the black man or justice, but because he was annoyed that white people were without jobs, because getting a slave to do something for free when a white man would want to get paid for it made more economic sense to farmers. Be intelligent, wise, and brave. Always question what you're told.
If you're really disappointed by the topics of these TEDEducation videos, you can submit one of yours here ed.ted.com/get_involved#/suggest_a_lesson
After playing bioshock infinite, I don't see george washington as noble at all
Although these are all great role models with great traits, is this not a radically oversimplified idea when it comes to figures and their legacies? I mean the truth is muh more complicated- George Washington supported slavery for instance. These mixed legacies IMO create much more interesting and realistic questions about role models.
I like ted ed
George Washington is smart yeah.... but dishonorability is not a virtue that should be followed...
I mean courage. Im not good at spelling. If only I had the wisdom fir tht.
this is my social studies teacher
Then they've should called the video American Role Models. And why is it wrong to teach American students history from all over the world, not only America?
why does abraham lincoln have grape fruit slices on his face
George Washington attacks on a holiday = hero
Viet Cong attack on a holiday (tet offensive) = villains
Maybe if they were American they'd be role models
And here I thought America lost the Vietnam War.
But all of her students are Americans. She's a seventh grade schoolteacher, not a history professor.
"work and procreate"
I think this video may be a wee bit ethnocentric
You mean to tell me that justice is a virtue that is good for us? What are you, crazy? Demanding or supporting "justice" have never helped anyone. An eye for an eye will make the entire world blind.
I'm not a professor of world history either but I know about these people. Teachers should teach children about other countries for respect, instead of fueling nationalists. If she doesn't know about the people I said, she needs training.
The cartoon did not go over my head; children do not like to be treated like children when it comes to teaching them - Especially 11-13 year old. The art style should work with what she's saying not distract, but instead it's distracting and immature.
Wisdom won't make you a better speller.
If only I had the ciurage to ask out tht cute boy.
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WTF
Childish? Who's the crying that only American heros were mentioned? If you feel insulted or left out that's your problem. Get over it. You're acting like you weren't giving a piece a candy when all the other kids got one.
This is oversimplifying history. First, Abraham Lincoln's intention initially with the Civil War was the preserve the Union. His emancipation freed slaves only in Confederate States not the border states allied with the union. Also, "he kept the United States united" has some inaccuracy. Yes, the south was back with the union but they still kept differing ideologies from the north which help start the KKK.
Also, at the time, abolitionists believed in abolition but not necessarily giving blacks any rights so I can't say what they believed in was all the right thing to do.
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So many dislikes :O
'MURICA FUUUCK YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Uhm, could TED think a little out of the box? I mean like, i could think of a lot more role models who did greater deeds than these 3-6 americans showed in the video. The whole setup of the episode was very banal and childish.
And third
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This sounded like it was full of misinformation and bias.
this does not reflect the world
and the first example given actually is against some virtues. look more into the reasoning of protocols in war
unsubscribed
That is my least favorite kind of animation done by TEDEducation.
Is this the best art style for this kind of talk? Seems to childish (it's creepy and distracting)
Also why did you only exclusively mention American Heroes? Why not mention people who didn't live in for instance: Gandhi, Moses, William Wilberforce, any members of the Suffragette Movement (Take your pick).
You also forgot to mention the downfalls of these people one minute you are praising a slave trader the next you are praising the man who abolished slavery. Talk about cherry-picking.
2th!
in fact one could argue that america has no real history.
The animation style is terrible and a little creepy. I'd overlook it but the content was bland and unoriginal.
Historical role models ? More like american role models!
laaaaaaaaaaaame not all your subscribers are Americans
MLK snub... what a fail.
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