@@speedy-gonzalex4627 when Abby yelled at Jojo, she stormed out then tiptoed back in. When Jojo got assigned at ballet duet, they left for good. When she felt Jojo was being set up or mistreated, she bounced too.
@heatherward5053 jessalyn is a horrible mother! Also, very obviously was hell bent on Jojo being famous, more for herself than Jojo. Jojo didn't want to dance. She wanted to play basketball 🏀
@Carouseldaydreams she was also horrible to brynn. I can understand not being so nice to Ashley because she was an ass hat and came right in basically saying my kid is gonna replace your kid . She wasn't the nicest mom. Jessalyn and Ashley, Jill, and Melissa were all just gross people.
@user-hj1gv9ir9u you're soooo right! Peyton was really talented. The show also painted get as a bully. Now, her mother is another story altogether, but Peyton was very talented and a sweet, sensitive kid
As for the Peanut movie thing, I get why they wanted to see it. At the end of the day, they were kids, at the time, who were just being kids. He shouldn't have made that passive aggressive comment
Mrs Debbie Allen proves how Abby’s whole mantra is a load of garbage. You can still be a phenomenal and respected teacher by being kind but constructive
I don’t blame the minis for wanting to go see a movie instead of practicing. They were really struggling in the group dance and the other moms kept going after them for being in it.
@@TheRealMercyEthey were calling her the N word and a monkey, saying she would never be like Chloe, calling her feet dark and ugly, calling her a man, incorporating her name into the N word.
I loooove Mrs Debbie Allen! She is who Abby wishes she was. I was so excited to see her and wish we could’ve seen more. Given her reputation I didn’t see her putting up with DM producers long term though. She has an amazing documentary on Netflix if anyone is interested
As a person, Kira is not someone I could ever vibe with. But as reality tv personality, I think she was so entertaining. She quite literally gave no effs, and was completely shameless about it.
@@Snowballbabe7903 yes jill is actually #3 on my top 3 most hated moms on DM with jessalyn being number 1 and kira number 2. Idk why I didn't mention that this time I usually do🤣 maybe because to me shes not quite as bad as the first 2 but still horrible.
@@hannahpollard9297op wasn’t blaming Melissa more just asking why she didn’t step in and stop the bullying. That’s what any responsible adult would do 🤷♀️
i feel bad for peyton she was only in the 1st grade. the other minis too they are little. i dont know why when one mom says something about a child and another mom buds in it just becomes a back and forth and its like you dont have to dig at someones child i know production had a part but jeezz
I wish there was another fully black girl for Nia sooner. I loved when Kaya and Nicaya were there I wish it played out differently and Nicaya stayed but I liked when Asia came because Nia had an opposite and wasn’t always in the back or not in duets. Abby didn’t like that Nia was the only black girl and automatically stood out it’s sad
@ lol that’s insane to say she definitely stands out she might be light but you can tell she’s darker than everyone around her. you can also tell she’s black so whether she is the same shade in color to the girls her features still standout. so please.
@@rynlo1333 how is that insane to say? Seriously she's not that dark stand out and catch your eye. How can you notice her features when you're in the audience and Nia's far away on the stage, dancing. how can you notice her features?, I Know she's black, but if I was in the audience far away from the stage (without cameras zooming in and out) I would've maybe noticed that there is girl that's a little more tan then everyone else, but it wouldn't be that significant for me to divert my eyes towards her the entire group dance. I'm talking about in group dances not in general.
I doubt it. She is doing these because she has the production notes. I’m sure they learned their lesson and all of that is encrypted in the cloud. I doubt any “written” evidence exists
The addition of the minis always seemed like such a random production choice just to turn the drama level up to "hot mess." It became like watching a soap opera with too many characters. Mission accomplished? 😕
@@5starspamzzzzz new era would be season 9. Lol I love how s8 isnt even relevant to people anymore, much like s9 will be but worse because there is 0 returning cast.
Uummmm... nit Kendall smirking after Nia breaks down in tears after rejoining the group. She's always been a jealous, bratty person. Even with her new plastic surgery face, she's still horrible.
@chalkandcheese1868 lol it's funny to me how as soon as someone posts an opinion thst they don't agree with, they get all bent and have to talk shite. Guess what "luv" people are allowed to have different opinions that you don't agree with. Also, you're acting like I just dissed your family member, lol. You're literally mad at a stranger's opinion over someone that you don't even know. If you watch the show, you'll see how she doesn't care about anyone other than herself, and us quite jealous. You can only blame production for telling them what to say for so long. It's no secret that Jill and kendal were very dismissive of Nia. Maybe my comment just hit you in some kind of way, and you see something of kendal's crappy personality in yourself. " luv" oh... one more thing, booboo, come talk shite when you learn how to spell 🤣
@@aryabolton2949 *that *is, and her name is spelt Kendall. "luv" is a colloquial term for the word love, if you knew how to read you might've known that, and last of all thank you for spectacularly proving my point. Cheers
@chalkandcheese1868 Obviously, you know the correct way to spell 🙄 I was just shitting on it because you shat on my comment because you didn't agree with it. You easily could have kept scrolling, but oh no! Someone dares have an opinion different from yours, so you just have to be an ass . Lol, I think it's funny when people like you try to sound so smart 😂 . You're literally pressed because someone has a different opinion than you, about a complet stranger. I bet you've asked to speak to a manager many times in your life 😆. I'm hella bored of you, so our interaction ends here. Buyyyeeeeeee!!!!! Xoxo
considering that nia wasnt in the same shot and how close up that was, it could've been another clip edited in right after nia. kendall loves her very much even to this day
I don’t know how iron clad the contracts were but the mums have to share a large chunk of the blame for staying in this environment. The bullying was out of control by season 6 and there was barely any focus on the dancing. There comes a time when they can’t just blame Abby for her appalling behavior and you need to just remove yourself from the situation. They kept comparing that Abby just wanted to use their kids for fame and money but every single one of those mums did the same to their own kids.
Can you do one finding out what guardian was with Maddie when she was off filming movies and music videos while her mom was on the show? I doubt it was her dad or stepdad. But I wonder if maybe she was really home and they said she was gone even though the actual filming for those things were when filming for DM wasn’t going on. Anyway it would be interesting to know what was the truth.
I saw a Reddit post containing tweet Diane pent posted in 2012 saying Christi would never stick up for Maddie, some say she was bitter for not being a regular cast member, but maybe there could be some truth to the posts people made when the earlier seasons were airing Edit: we don’t know for sure what she meant. apparently the tweet was during the joffrey episode in season 2 when Abby wanted Maddie to dance w the senior company, and Christi was disappointed that Melissa wouldn’t stick up for Maddie about the fact. I interpreted it as “it’s not Christi’s job to be the one sticking up for Maddie”
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Christi held some resentment towards Maddie because of the constant comparison and opportunities Maddie got. Sometimes, felt like she would go after Maddie for no reason or because she was jealous
@@coolsomeashit didn’t feel like anything she literally came after Maddie for no reason. You should hear how she talks about the Ziegler girls on her podcast
@marilyn1984 Finally, someone who agrees, all the Christi defenders praise her, when she was bitter sounding asf at times(in Maddie topics) or would just bring Maddie up for seemingly no reason. I said sometimes because the producers would have the moms talk about certain topics to get a reaction out of the moms. Ex: The producers would have the moms talk about Maddie to upset Melissa
I love your videos, but something i wish you would go more in-depth about some things, like: Melissa bashes the mini moms for showing up... Why? Isnt that their job now?
Melissa told Jess that Maddie is in a movie that JoJo will never be in. At this point Melissa was really egotistical. But JoJo is bigger than Maddie now
If you define success as who has the higher profile and gets the most media attention then yes JoJo is bigger. If you go by who has a more respected career and everyone says that they are a pleasure to work with then Maddie has the bigger career.
But Mellisa was right? Mellisa was talking about one movie that Jojo was never in. She didn’t claim that Jojo would never be in a movie herself. Also, while Jojo is arguably more rich and famous, in terms of respect and recognition, Maddie arguably beats her out. Maddie doesn’t constantly defend child a*use and isn’t complicit in it being perpetuated. Maddie isn’t perfect, but Jojo is a mini Abby and a mini Jess
Jojo may be more famous, but Maddie will be more respected. Jojo is a meme. She does things for attention unlike Maddie who is artistic and actually cares about acting.
Jess would be the 1st one to storm out when she felt Jojo was being treated unfairly, but piled onto poor little Peyton
Jess was the last person to storm out tbh.
@@speedy-gonzalex4627 when Abby yelled at Jojo, she stormed out then tiptoed back in. When Jojo got assigned at ballet duet, they left for good. When she felt Jojo was being set up or mistreated, she bounced too.
@@heatherward5053Abby told Jojo to get out and the second one is made up, Jojo was leaving the aldc to focus on Nickelodeon
@heatherward5053 jessalyn is a horrible mother! Also, very obviously was hell bent on Jojo being famous, more for herself than Jojo. Jojo didn't want to dance. She wanted to play basketball 🏀
Peyton was a 6 year-old baby being berated by a grown woman. Jessalyn is terrible
Because little Peyton had more talent in her young years than Jojo ever did. She was definitely jealous
@Carouseldaydreams she was also horrible to brynn. I can understand not being so nice to Ashley because she was an ass hat and came right in basically saying my kid is gonna replace your kid . She wasn't the nicest mom. Jessalyn and Ashley, Jill, and Melissa were all just gross people.
@user-hj1gv9ir9u you're soooo right! Peyton was really talented. The show also painted get as a bully. Now, her mother is another story altogether, but Peyton was very talented and a sweet, sensitive kid
As for the Peanut movie thing, I get why they wanted to see it. At the end of the day, they were kids, at the time, who were just being kids.
He shouldn't have made that passive aggressive comment
That was just so adorable to me lol
@@rosebby1433 it took me back to simpler times when I heard that 😂😂
NO ONE CAN EVER MAKE ME LIKE JESS AND JOJO
Mrs Debbie Allen proves how Abby’s whole mantra is a load of garbage. You can still be a phenomenal and respected teacher by being kind but constructive
100000%
I don’t blame the minis for wanting to go see a movie instead of practicing. They were really struggling in the group dance and the other moms kept going after them for being in it.
I remember that in real time I’ve been following Nia for years she posted turns and the comments were AWFUL.
What did they say?
@@TheRealMercyEthey were calling her the N word and a monkey, saying she would never be like Chloe, calling her feet dark and ugly, calling her a man, incorporating her name into the N word.
@@TheRealMercyE they said she wasn't a good enough dancer to be on the team and also made a bunch of really racist comments
Man people were so mean to her, it’s so horrible looking back on it
@@mthomas8600 that’s so sad omg why would they do that
Has anyone ever listened to Abby’s podcast? I can’t even make it 5 minutes she just goes on and on about how amazing she is 🤮
she tries to make it seem like she treats kids and parents the best
That's a narcissist for you. Self agrandizing is just ONE of the things they do.
I feel so bad for mackzboss having to listen to that shit to get info for these videos 💀 doing the lord's work fr
Yes and she shares nothing but the truth 😌💁🏽♀️
@@blkpanthercreative no Abby literally denies things when it’s literally on television..
I loooove Mrs Debbie Allen! She is who Abby wishes she was. I was so excited to see her and wish we could’ve seen more. Given her reputation I didn’t see her putting up with DM producers long
term though.
She has an amazing documentary on Netflix if anyone is interested
Jess is such a terrible person.
Yessss i cant stand her or kira. Terrible people
Yess I cant stand her or kira
Kira's not even there atm what is she doing wrong lol@@kelsey2333
@@Foudedanse sorry my comments never look like they actually stayed posted 💀
I never realized that this duet with Nia and Kalani was choreographed by the same woman who choreographed "The Last Dance" in season 7.
Jessalyn and kira are easily the worst moms on this show ever
As a person, Kira is not someone I could ever vibe with. But as reality tv personality, I think she was so entertaining. She quite literally gave no effs, and was completely shameless about it.
Don't forget Jill
@@Snowballbabe7903 yes jill is actually #3 on my top 3 most hated moms on DM with jessalyn being number 1 and kira number 2. Idk why I didn't mention that this time I usually do🤣 maybe because to me shes not quite as bad as the first 2 but still horrible.
@@Snowballbabe7903Jill is more tolerable than Jess and Kira tho if you ask me
Christi is pretty bad too. She was racist to “black patsy” but people don’t really call that out
Melissa’s comment that she has video proof of a child’s behavior is so weird. Why is she recording rather than addressing it
Because she's a snitch. She use to do the same thing to poor Chloe.
I love how someone is being a bully yet you still find a way to blame Melissa
@@hannahpollard9297eh melissa was always kind of a kiss ass so it just adds to the evidence
@@hannahpollard9297op wasn’t blaming Melissa more just asking why she didn’t step in and stop the bullying. That’s what any responsible adult would do 🤷♀️
Frr
i feel bad for peyton she was only in the 1st grade. the other minis too they are little. i dont know why when one mom says something about a child and another mom buds in it just becomes a back and forth and its like you dont have to dig at someones child i know production had a part but jeezz
I adore Debbie Allan now that's a real dancer , choreographer on and on.
Jess thrives on drama. She seems to love pushing other people's buttons, followed by acting surprised when they lash out. I swear, she's the worst.
Everything dropped in a second for MackZBoss 💯💜
If a situation is bad, you can always count on Jess to make it worse.
I wish there was another fully black girl for Nia sooner. I loved when Kaya and Nicaya were there I wish it played out differently and Nicaya stayed but I liked when Asia came because Nia had an opposite and wasn’t always in the back or not in duets. Abby didn’t like that Nia was the only black girl and automatically stood out it’s sad
also LOVED when Camryn joined I wish they did an african duet with them two
@@rynlo1333Cam is one of my fav dancers 😍
I don't think nia really stood out, she's very light skin so she isn't that noticable
@ lol that’s insane to say she definitely stands out she might be light but you can tell she’s darker than everyone around her. you can also tell she’s black so whether she is the same shade in color to the girls her features still standout. so please.
@@rynlo1333 how is that insane to say? Seriously she's not that dark stand out and catch your eye.
How can you notice her features when you're in the audience and Nia's far away on the stage, dancing. how can you notice her features?, I Know she's black, but if I was in the audience far away from the stage (without cameras zooming in and out) I would've maybe noticed that there is girl that's a little more tan then everyone else, but it wouldn't be that significant for me to divert my eyes towards her the entire group dance.
I'm talking about in group dances not in general.
I love watching mackzboss, it’s my favourite thing to do
I’m not surprised things were tense without Abby; the producers are chaos personified.
I can’t wait to see if she’ll do Dance Moms: The New Era or even do Season 8.
I doubt it. She is doing these because she has the production notes. I’m sure they learned their lesson and all of that is encrypted in the cloud. I doubt any “written” evidence exists
The addition of the minis always seemed like such a random production choice just to turn the drama level up to "hot mess." It became like watching a soap opera with too many characters. Mission accomplished? 😕
I love these videos so much. You do awesome work exposing the show.
Your videos are always so interesting
Oh I’m early I love the effort you put into the videos there great
These are so interesting! Are you planning on doing season 8 of dance mom’s new era episodes? I would totally watch because you are amazing!
We gotta wait 10 years for the production notes to be leaked or sold 🥲
@5starspamzzzzz Think she made a vid of s8 dance moms but I'm hoping she also gives her thoughts on the new dance moms spin off series
@@5starspamzzzzz new era would be season 9. Lol I love how s8 isnt even relevant to people anymore, much like s9 will be but worse because there is 0 returning cast.
It’s always wild to me the amount of grown people on here and even kids negatively attacking people. Ya’ll are weird.
Thanks for the upload! Always eagerly awaiting your content! Happy Thursday, y'all!
Isn't Areana the one who said Kendall was the most "entitled"? and yet here she is being accused of bullying a 6 year old, Hmmm
@@chalkandcheese1868 yup lol, how hypocritical honestly
little miss candle is a trump supporter, of course shes entitled.
@@sterlingsilver1111 How TF would you know who she supports?
@@chalkandcheese1868she's open about it
@@chalkandcheese1868social media
Hey MackZBoss just curious : r u gonna cover the new dance moms reboot/season 9 and/or Madhouse?
Uummmm... nit Kendall smirking after Nia breaks down in tears after rejoining the group. She's always been a jealous, bratty person. Even with her new plastic surgery face, she's still horrible.
I think you're describing yourself luv
@chalkandcheese1868 lol it's funny to me how as soon as someone posts an opinion thst they don't agree with, they get all bent and have to talk shite. Guess what "luv" people are allowed to have different opinions that you don't agree with. Also, you're acting like I just dissed your family member, lol. You're literally mad at a stranger's opinion over someone that you don't even know. If you watch the show, you'll see how she doesn't care about anyone other than herself, and us quite jealous. You can only blame production for telling them what to say for so long. It's no secret that Jill and kendal were very dismissive of Nia. Maybe my comment just hit you in some kind of way, and you see something of kendal's crappy personality in yourself. " luv" oh... one more thing, booboo, come talk shite when you learn how to spell 🤣
@@aryabolton2949 *that *is, and her name is spelt Kendall. "luv" is a colloquial term for the word love, if you knew how to read you might've known that, and last of all thank you for spectacularly proving my point. Cheers
@chalkandcheese1868 Obviously, you know the correct way to spell 🙄 I was just shitting on it because you shat on my comment because you didn't agree with it. You easily could have kept scrolling, but oh no! Someone dares have an opinion different from yours, so you just have to be an ass . Lol, I think it's funny when people like you try to sound so smart 😂 . You're literally pressed because someone has a different opinion than you, about a complet stranger. I bet you've asked to speak to a manager many times in your life 😆. I'm hella bored of you, so our interaction ends here. Buyyyeeeeeee!!!!! Xoxo
considering that nia wasnt in the same shot and how close up that was, it could've been another clip edited in right after nia. kendall loves her very much even to this day
Love this series!!
I don’t know how iron clad the contracts were but the mums have to share a large chunk of the blame for staying in this environment. The bullying was out of control by season 6 and there was barely any focus on the dancing.
There comes a time when they can’t just blame Abby for her appalling behavior and you need to just remove yourself from the situation.
They kept comparing that Abby just wanted to use their kids for fame and money but every single one of those mums did the same to their own kids.
i think the contracts ended in season 6
The poor Minis
hi! i’d like to know why dance moms uncovered s4 e16 (the one where you discussed lgbtq+ related things) was taken down?
Can you do one finding out what guardian was with Maddie when she was off filming movies and music videos while her mom was on the show? I doubt it was her dad or stepdad. But I wonder if maybe she was really home and they said she was gone even though the actual filming for those things were when filming for DM wasn’t going on. Anyway it would be interesting to know what was the truth.
Can u do something on the new dance moms of studio bleu?
I saw a Reddit post containing tweet Diane pent posted in 2012 saying Christi would never stick up for Maddie, some say she was bitter for not being a regular cast member, but maybe there could be some truth to the posts people made when the earlier seasons were airing
Edit: we don’t know for sure what she meant. apparently the tweet was during the joffrey episode in season 2 when Abby wanted Maddie to dance w the senior company, and Christi was disappointed that Melissa wouldn’t stick up for Maddie about the fact. I interpreted it as “it’s not Christi’s job to be the one sticking up for Maddie”
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Christi held some resentment towards Maddie because of the constant comparison and opportunities Maddie got. Sometimes, felt like she would go after Maddie for no reason or because she was jealous
@@coolsomeashit didn’t feel like anything she literally came after Maddie for no reason. You should hear how she talks about the Ziegler girls on her podcast
@marilyn1984 Finally, someone who agrees, all the Christi defenders praise her, when she was bitter sounding asf at times(in Maddie topics) or would just bring Maddie up for seemingly no reason. I said sometimes because the producers would have the moms talk about certain topics to get a reaction out of the moms. Ex: The producers would have the moms talk about Maddie to upset Melissa
@@marilyn1984 What does she say😭
@@marilyn1984Maddie was a bully
Queen Holly is the best 👑🎉
Can't stand Jess
New Era?
The new season with Studio Bleu is called Dance Moms: A New Era. Not sure if that is what you are talking about
@@amandamandamandsMaybe they’re asking if she’ll cover it
Hold up did Mary really say that no wonder why Abby has no family left like I’m sorry her MOM & DAD DIED OF CANCER!!!!! did she not know that?
Melissa annoying ahh claiming she got video proof
of course Melissa is against anything and everything interesting or fun to protect her relationship with Abby.
Hii
I love your videos, but something i wish you would go more in-depth about some things, like: Melissa bashes the mini moms for showing up... Why? Isnt that their job now?
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@@jamiethebookworm Free Ukraine
@@jamiethebookworm what the actual f
what does that have to do with this video...
The Dance Moms cast captured Palestine?
Melissa told Jess that Maddie is in a movie that JoJo will never be in. At this point Melissa was really egotistical. But JoJo is bigger than Maddie now
Yeah but at what cost because last time I checked Maddie wasn’t treating a kid pop group horribly
If you define success as who has the higher profile and gets the most media attention then yes JoJo is bigger. If you go by who has a more respected career and everyone says that they are a pleasure to work with then Maddie has the bigger career.
But Mellisa was right? Mellisa was talking about one movie that Jojo was never in. She didn’t claim that Jojo would never be in a movie herself. Also, while Jojo is arguably more rich and famous, in terms of respect and recognition, Maddie arguably beats her out. Maddie doesn’t constantly defend child a*use and isn’t complicit in it being perpetuated. Maddie isn’t perfect, but Jojo is a mini Abby and a mini Jess
Jojo may be more famous, but Maddie will be more respected. Jojo is a meme. She does things for attention unlike Maddie who is artistic and actually cares about acting.