Why Captain Falcon is Amazing in Melee, and how he changed in Project M

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  • Captain Falcon is incredible in Melee. But how did he change in Project M? There's more than what meets the eye for Falcon.
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  • @ZachHonest
    @ZachHonest  ปีที่แล้ว +26

    yo thank you guys for watching. go falcon hug someone today!

    • @smashmaster521
      @smashmaster521 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FALCON...Hug.
      *Hugs HONEST CONTENT*

    • @frjhracing
      @frjhracing ปีที่แล้ว

      idk if its intentional that you left it in...but when the audio/ frames freeze on deaths/ moves with flashy animations: you need to setup dolphin to "precompile shaders" , as the emulator is compiling that shader at runtime anytime you do a move/animation/action for the first time. You could also go in and do every single move/animation/etc for every character. in the game atleast once, but that would be tedious. There are unique shaders for all the sides of the blast zone as well as items. So basically anytime you do any thing that is a unique shader...it'll freeze like you have happening throughout the video. enabling precompilation will make the issue go away! Its good to do this on your slippi dolphin as well since you could get anyone in unranked, and you don't want to deal with the freezing mid set.
      Otherwise, great vid/editing!!

    • @TahirTheMan
      @TahirTheMan ปีที่แล้ว

      10/10 content. Although the clips you're using kinda suck. There's room for improvement but other than that this channel is great.

  • @Aronia55
    @Aronia55 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    For how extreme of a character he is it's actually kind of shocking how it all comes together as a reasonably well balanced package.

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the best designed characters in fighting games tbh. Aside from Brawl. But that’s cause Brawl is Brawl.

    • @j0rd0
      @j0rd0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's mostly due to his recovery being sub par I'd say. If Falcon had a top tier recovery in melee he'd be hard to contest.

    • @Aronia55
      @Aronia55 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@j0rd0 Yeah he has huge strengths and huge weaknesses yet somehow they kinda balance each other out.

  • @reidwithoutacause
    @reidwithoutacause ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Falcon has always been one of my favorite characters in every smash game. He really embodies smash bros to his core. He’s fast, fun, and honest. (Just like you lol). He’s a super smash bros character as far as I’m concerned, and I’ve played f-zero. If Nintendo ever makes that super smash racing game, I almost think it would make more sense to make it a spiritual successor to f-zero rather than Mario kart.

  • @hezmo940
    @hezmo940 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should do "why Yoshi is Amazing in Melee and how he changed in Project M"

    • @Sprocket_777
      @Sprocket_777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like why Yoshi is pretty good I suppose

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sprocket_777
      Yes, but you have to take into account how many times Amsa won in 2022. Quite a lot. I say he’s in the same boat as Icies, Pikachu, and Samus. I think the top 7 are “top tier” and the 4 characters I just mentioned are “high tier”. Luigi and Doc being close to that high tier but not quite.

    • @hezmo940
      @hezmo940 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sprocket_777 Nah I personally think Yoshi is better than Peach, Like for solo maining, since with Peach you need a secondary to fight Puff. Amsa did so well since he was dedicated to Yoshi and Yoshi just takes a lot of time to be good at.

    • @Sprocket_777
      @Sprocket_777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jesuspernia8031 I agree with Yoshi's placement and I am a huge AMSA fan. I just don't think Yoshi is "amazing" since he has many weaknesses that can sometimes outweigh his strengths. Still a very good character, but definitely not top tier.

    • @Sprocket_777
      @Sprocket_777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hezmo940 I can agree with that, but neither character is top tier.

  • @aplsed
    @aplsed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:37 Was anybody else thrown for a loop by this camera angle?

  • @lickagoat
    @lickagoat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard it being called the Doug hug.

  • @Dreekuz
    @Dreekuz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this production is crazy

  • @SleepingChimes
    @SleepingChimes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a lot of confidence calling falcon’s knee the best aerial in the game when he gets more utility out of nair himself

  • @cubix169
    @cubix169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's not forget he can also T-Pose in Project M 3.6

  • @KindaKaon
    @KindaKaon ปีที่แล้ว

    Big recommendation: please mix the mic a little more naturally. it sounds pretty harsh on the ears as of right now because it feels very overproduced sounding. aside from that, great video!

  • @Vyrophyl
    @Vyrophyl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually Falcon is nerfed really hard in PM due to not being able to charlie walk.

  • @jaye4521
    @jaye4521 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, I miss Melee Falcon. Literally went from being the definition of hype to one of the most boring characters from Brawl onwards imo.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least in PM he still cool.

    • @dixonplays6981
      @dixonplays6981 ปีที่แล้ว

      ultimate falcon is pretty hype

  • @foxmoulder7724
    @foxmoulder7724 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the new F zero games.
    F zero x was sooooo good, between that and Diddy Kong racing they're my favorite old racers.
    Lego racer gets an honorable mention, and let's be honest the Mario Cart games are far better than they used to be.

  • @minty7862
    @minty7862 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    There's nothing better than Honest Content uploading some of the most honest content

    • @bootleg6595
      @bootleg6595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      one of the most honest in the game

  • @PrimeCass
    @PrimeCass ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Based Falcon

    • @djcreeperboy5062
      @djcreeperboy5062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No biased falcon. High tier equals buff him .Gannon Dorf is now beaten by damage of captain falcon

    • @namelessresource5782
      @namelessresource5782 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Based? On what? On D's?

    • @djcreeperboy5062
      @djcreeperboy5062 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@namelessresource5782 no bias

  • @tb4u646
    @tb4u646 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The community has a bias in favor of Falcon (so do I). No one wants him to be less than excellent. No mod (PM, P+, HDR) will allow him to be lower than A-tier. The buffs you would have to give Falcon to not only move him out of D/F tier in Brawl, but to also make him a top tier only affirm what I've said.

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Brawl is just the wrong game for him in general, you'd have to get pretty ridiculous with buffs to simply make him viable, let alone good without turning him into someone else. A combo-oriented character simply has no place in a game where combos don't really exist.
      Meanwhile, Marth didn't change at all because his archetype still thrives in this garbage engine AND he has chaingrabs.

  • @dreadedpatrick9876
    @dreadedpatrick9876 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i really do wish Melee Falcon had the same QoL as P+ Falcon, the gentleman jab and raptor boost on ledge changes would make him infinitely better

    • @Aronia55
      @Aronia55 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's such a dick move in Melee, he even holds up his arm and then just: whoopsie :p

    • @fhuckgoogle4171
      @fhuckgoogle4171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aronia55 :whoopsie i missed 😅🤚

  • @cthulhutron3244
    @cthulhutron3244 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just my honest opinion, I really do love your videos, but this one in particular feels to be edited a little strangely, with abrupt cuts and poor audio mixing. Other than that, your videos are always super fun to watch and always really informative

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just looked at my render encoding settings and for some reason they were a little off, I think thats why some of the things look a little weird at times, especially the audio. My audio bitrate quality was not on the maximum amount for some reason. so yea it kinda thru me off because I don't really notice that while editing, but live and learn I guess.

  • @UltraNurture
    @UltraNurture ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Glad they didn't change Falcon too much. His moveset is perfect and iconic!

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      None of the smash games changed his moveset. He was mean to be a muscular chad

  • @spongebobgamingahoyboo2.062
    @spongebobgamingahoyboo2.062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did not know falcon knee can do everything I wonder it could help me escape tax fraud. Jk. Love the vid keep the good work for 2023.

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So much for having a new F-Zero game.
    And the Falcon hug part was hilarious.

  • @sonicphoenix7
    @sonicphoenix7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    nah falco dair is better than knee

    • @zachstarattack7320
      @zachstarattack7320 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah i think so

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but knee is up there. It’s up for debate tbh.

    • @navnnavn1226
      @navnnavn1226 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Falcon up air is better than knee

  • @jacknsht5337
    @jacknsht5337 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While, as some ppl already pointed out, there are some oddities regarding the audio, i really think your narration/ voice over has improved a lot throughout your smash bros/ pm character series :) really looking forward to what you will deliver this year, wishing you the best for 2023! ✌
    Ps: i would love to see a video about brawl and pm Wario at some point 👍

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yea, I did a dumb honest content thing. I basically rendered the audio bitrate at a lower quality like a dumb ass LOL. I didn't notice it. You live and learn, I'm not making that mistake again.

  • @viceroi9332
    @viceroi9332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sfx + music was pretty loud compared to voice

  • @Zinksk8er
    @Zinksk8er ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shout out to all my based giga Chad Falcon's out there. I'd give a pinky to get side b recovery in melee 😔.

  • @489herobrine9
    @489herobrine9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video, only thing to mention was that the audio gets crispy at times.
    Line at 2:47 was cut short, and frequently the game audio just sounds crunchy (2:28, 2:52).
    Great work nothingless!

  • @MarcatoCSharp
    @MarcatoCSharp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey just want to put out there that the audio on the video is really hard to listen to in general. The mixing makes it so it's pretty overwhelming hearing music, weird sound effects, gameplay, and commentary all at once. There also is some distortion that I hear sometimes in the gameplay. The commentary also has really loud low end. This plus the really abrupt fast cuts between sections just makes the video really hard to watch attentively. I don't mean to criticize for no reason but I think this is good content being held back by editing. Hopefully you can get it figured out. Thanks,

  • @drcheerioshehehe
    @drcheerioshehehe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when the content is honest

  • @justforshow1993
    @justforshow1993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I fucking love being a cpt. Falcon main so when I say he plays better in P+ sweet baby carrots does he play better on P+. Melee forever.

  • @monikasalt
    @monikasalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Captain Falcon’s air speed in melee and PM is insane and why I find the character so fun

  • @jeffreylong1478
    @jeffreylong1478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today I learned that Captain Falcon is designed with yellow nipples haha 😂

  • @stickless9850
    @stickless9850 ปีที่แล้ว

    please mix the audio better, random sound effects and music make this unbearable

  • @susiebaka3388
    @susiebaka3388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you didnt mention the fact that captain falcon broadcasts his recovery rolls that can be easily read by attentive players

  • @SkashiVA
    @SkashiVA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:11 Fun fact: Hell Hawk was the original name of Blood Falcon's vehicle, but changed it to Blood Hawk because the word "Hell" was too grim.
    Whoever made the Hell-Hawk texture knows a good bit of F-Zero lore.

  • @zachstarattack7320
    @zachstarattack7320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14th comment

  • @thegamingguy1
    @thegamingguy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to edit in some pauses between your sentences lmao cool vid besides that

  • @matthewzakrzewski1797
    @matthewzakrzewski1797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think falcon is the best melee char in p+ and possibly top 5

  • @7thDylan
    @7thDylan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes. More than quality content

  • @ecvande2859
    @ecvande2859 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #FREEPM #BRAWLBACK #FUCKNINTENDO

  • @daolothe1043
    @daolothe1043 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:37 Falcon’s jab is actually one of the slower ones at frame 3. Sheik/Fox/Falco/Peach have frame 2 jabs.

  • @yyoshman
    @yyoshman ปีที่แล้ว

    huh ? is it just me or did you have like half the subscribers you have now like a month ago ? idk maybe its just me or im getting something mixed up, anyway good content 👍

  • @CollynsTV
    @CollynsTV ปีที่แล้ว

    nair has amazing priority if you shuffle is properly. i recommend getting into a claw grip and practicing that tough fastfall timing. captain falcons nair is actually insane.

  • @ethanpritt542
    @ethanpritt542 ปีที่แล้ว

    talk that talk!

  • @C-531
    @C-531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do diddy kong next please 🙏🙏🙏

    • @exeterd9
      @exeterd9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didd wasn’t in melee

    • @C-531
      @C-531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but he was in brawl p.m. and smash 4

  • @SEVENSEVENSTALE
    @SEVENSEVENSTALE ปีที่แล้ว

    less than 10k subs is a serious crime for a channel that pumps this quality, keep killing it with the content

  • @jetblazethunder3596
    @jetblazethunder3596 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:40 song?

  • @joejhansen
    @joejhansen ปีที่แล้ว

    up tilt 🤮

  • @scalpeldude
    @scalpeldude ปีที่แล้ว

    lol 545 4

  • @remotecrunch
    @remotecrunch ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a fantastic channel i love ur style

  • @nxthingbutv0id958
    @nxthingbutv0id958 ปีที่แล้ว

    i cant wait for the ganondorf vid

  • @gavinclarke714
    @gavinclarke714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait that Melee tier list is inaccurate. That’s from the Hbox era

  • @bootleg6595
    @bootleg6595 ปีที่แล้ว

    He didn't lie, he was honest, honest content

  • @Whurlpuul
    @Whurlpuul ปีที่แล้ว

    You're welcome guy

  • @baileyayyy5085
    @baileyayyy5085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know a good channel for lies about melee?

  • @SanzoArts
    @SanzoArts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think "Amazing" is overselling him a tiny bit, his bad mu's barely make him a great character, not amazing like puff, marth, fox or falco

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take Puff out of that list lmao. If Falcon isn’t in the “amazing” tier, then that overrated puff ball sure as hell isn’t.

    • @SanzoArts
      @SanzoArts ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jesuspernia8031 with uptilt rest being true on all the toptiers and killing from 0% on most stages, pound rest being true from 12% onward, and upthrow rest being a "hit that magic smash di timing or die" for spaceys from 0%, I don't see how you can say she's overrated, oh, and bair strings are also true from 15% onward on most characters

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SanzoArts
      Then Falcon should also be put on that list if Puff is. Peach and Sheik too. The top 7 right now are all “amazing” or “top tier” whichever wording you wanna use.

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal ปีที่แล้ว

    Some hopefully constructive criticism: I think you should really avoid making representations of qualitative things as facts when they are not consensus. It's an issue that I repeatedly encounter when watching your videos, and always bothers me. For example in this video, knee being the best aerial in all of Melee is definitely not something that should be stated as a fact. I don't even believe it is widely agreeable to say that knee is 100% Falcon's best aerial. Another thing is that I feel like you often make unnecessary non-statements or inaccuracies when talking about certain things (like calling Falcon's ftilt a "really good get off me tool"). I think that it's just better to say nothing about a move if you are not sure how it's used/if it isn't really used at all. I know the target audience of these videos will not care all that much about this kind of thing but it is still worth considering.
    Also 2002-2004 tier lists are honestly just nonsense and not really worth discussing imo, the community was not organized at all back then.

    • @erickkao1351
      @erickkao1351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn bro who asked

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erickkao1351 Do you have an issue with my comment? It wasn't written for you anyway, but I'm still curious.

    • @erickkao1351
      @erickkao1351 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SSB_Seal if the target audience of these videos don't care as much about accuracy, then you might not be the target audience and you don't have to break your back trying to flex your melee knowledge
      (fox bait is def the best aerial tho)

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erickkao1351 I know I might not be the target audience, which is why I acknowledged such in the first place. I still wanted to offer the creator a constructive perspective that may broaden future videos' appeals, which I believe is a responsible use of the comment section. I don't believe I shared much Melee knowledge here; if you are viewing the comment as some sort of flex, then that is your prerogative, but it is definitely not the case. Thanks for the explanation anyway

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erickkao1351 Oh also I might agree with Fox bair lol that shit is too good, not 100% sure though