It has been a longtime coming, unfortunately. The owners were even given a period of grace to comply with the White House's terms before being banned. Still though, I wouldn't miss it too much.
@ChibiReviews There are Data Security Regulations (if not, then it can be legislated in high hopes) to keep User Data here in the USA. To expunged the selling, buying, trading, showing, or sharing, etc. of User Data. To allow User Collection but only under "on server" locality. That is later on deleted before a company is merged or undone, etc. If this was truly a cyber security concern, then that is the regulatory response/amendment. Effectively immediately to all domestic and foreign companies, individuals, groups, etc. Economic and "the narrative" wise? That's a red fish and not worth my time. It's a fair game for any company under the 1st Amendment USA and under Commerce Regulations USA. This allows everyone to enter the market as a company without becoming a national security issue.
I generally didn’t care and why would I? The app only makes people stupid and all of these defenders defending TikTok are genuinely pathetic and all need to go outside
@@falcongamer58 you hadn't herd of the whole credit card companies forcing Japan's manga/anime to censor +18 content by not allowing manga websites to use credit cards on their website forcing them to shut down, and theoretically this could happen to anything if the companies decided to not support it. which is bad for things like indie shows which gets funded via merch websites. not to mention video games from Japan like Nintendo and PlayStation could get banned if this whole thing extends to other countries and not just China, but it's unlikely.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
@falcongamer58 womp womp yall don't hate censorship you just hate when you dont get what you want, yall didn't have shit to say when the chinese government banned their citizens from using the American version of TikTok Tok and yall aint going to say shit when they ban their own citizens from using Red Note and have to use the chinese version that's heavily censored, you want to cry about censorship while this government puts Muslims in concentration camps then lie to yourselves about how it's from Singapore when its fucking not.
@@WieldMyWordHave you ever considered a possibility that i'm not currently in Russia or that i simply know ways to bypass the restrictions or both? Maybe that is why i'm able to talk to you right now? It is almost impossible to watch TH-cam in Russia or use Discord without using some crutches. Forgive me for my integrity, but censorship doesn't have to cover every single form of media in order to be considered true censorship. And the fact that someone can bypass the restrictions doesn't make censorship that people experience any less true.
Then you should support it. TikTok was the most censorious and content controlled platform. We aren’t censoring anything by banning TikTok, if anything we’re stopping malicious content and censorship.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
@@killerjdog51 "We aren’t censoring anything by banning TikTok, if anything we’re _stopping_ malicious _content_ " No surprise there that a censorship advocate isn't smart enough to realize that they contradicted themselves within the same sentence.
Since the motivation behind the ban is data collection of the country’s population(something that federal intelligence would rather not want competition in since FB and Twitter/X do the same), major companies that work with online retailers or an online business model where streaming is factored into that, may also be effected by any new regulations for user data. More regulations of course means more legal fees to pay the cost for. Mind you, when major companies say that they’re against something that is being considered or written up to be law, it’s more so because they’d rather have lobbyists getting their chance for bidding new rules to be in their favor.
i don't know if you were dropped as a kid. but in no world should you as a American citizen think that because American companies collect your data that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO AS WELL. you need to grow up.
The US has data protection laws, they still can and do take data but they’re limited in how they can collect and sell that data. TikTok is under no such restrictions
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
Correction... Non USA Company can not be banned in America, in regard to Platforms. That's always been the case under sovereignty, like all other nations can do. Regardless of other laws in America. In the same way that our Laws do not apply outside of America.
To me, i dont really care about Tik Tok, but its more the principal. If you can ban something like this, who can say you cant ban other stuff made overseas?
It’s definitely a mixed bag, as TikTok has tie to the Chinese government and they also gave them the option to sell the part that serves America to prevent a ban. That being said, this still isn’t a great thing. They will almost certainly use this to steadily start to control more and more media, using flimsier and flimsier excuses to do so. That’s why I ultimately don’t really support this ban, despite understanding the reasoning
TikTok is Chinese spyware, The ban in question doesn't mean you'll be thrown in jail for using it, you can still access it with a VPN or use an older version, this is not censorship this is protecting people from an adversarial government, all the company that owns TikTok had to do was sell the US operations of TikTok to a US company, which they for whatever reason don't want to do, also TikTok is not accessable in China, so it's censored in it's place of origin. I get wanting to stand for the First Amendment, however it doesn't apply to foreign governments and especially adversarial foreign governments.
@@imperium4821 Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
The funny thing is that Tik-Tok at noon on the 19th issued a new statement thanking Trump for intervening and allowing it to restore service on Tuesday the 21st WITHOUT government any restrictions because Trump has decided that what Tik-Tok was doing is not a problem. It looks like all those people worried about data privacy and spyware are wrong because Trump just sold-out.
Yea but your wonderfully joe was the wone wbo banned it. The democrats @NitehawkGaming maybe if tik tok blokced and bamned all the nazi isrealhatimg leftists it wouldnt off been banned.
First, anime can and has been banned and censored forever. A lot of localization has been about censoring content and changing it to something more acceptable for western audiences, which is sill because people don't watch anime to see a western take on it. Secondly, TikTok had an option to not be banned. It wasn't ideal, but if the company that owned the platform cared about the users (protip, few companies care about their customers) then they could have sold it to an american company. The main issue is that the site was gathering data on american citizens, which yeah places like YT does that as well but it's bad when they do it too. I personally wish the govs, if anything, would start making laws protecting its citizens from those types of online predatory tactics.
I’m also against censorship myself, but something really is/was fishy with TikTok. Please don’t yell at me in the comments, I’m just trying to share my opinion.
The thing is, if that fishy thing is illegal, then TikTok would need to be fined or banned because of this illegal thing. If it's not illegal, but it should be, then the laws are to blame here, not TikTok. Banning with no context as to why it was banned with no laws to justify the ban other than "We want it gone", is cencorship, and is wrong.
I'm probably reading too much into it, but this video feels like an indirect response to TBYS (Think Before You Sleep) making a video where he more or less reacts to a Chibi video and declares "censorship is scary, but it's fine when it targets the four-letter-word." (Why don't I just type the word? I'm pretty sure many of my comments get deleted due to bots, TH-cam basically self-reports this by still giving me notifications on new replies into comment chains that do not have my comment anymore.)
Unlike what normies think of video games, TikTok has actually influenced kids to do dumbass and dangerous stuff. However, that's not the platform's fault, it's the idiots that let it influence them. Yet that and brainrot will have many say "oh yeah that's ok to get rid of", because they don't like it. Similar stuff is going on with anime and games, but especially with anime is happening more sneakily with card companies
First they came for TikTok, and I said nothing, because I didn't care about the brainrot. Then they came for the gacha games, and I did nothing, because I don't need to spend thousands of dollars on imaginary pixels Then they came for me, and I was like "but I don't understand? How can they do this to me?"
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
this poam is relevent. becouse they will take anything from you now. Trumps order fails and your going to see youtube erased eventually. Probly also marvel rivals as its a Chinese product
Exactly this. "I threw every form of content I personally don't care about under the bus when censorship was coming after them, why is it coming after me now?"
My friend said he's glad TikTok was banned in US because it was a huge cause of brainrot. So i absolutely flamed him because he says that while watching TH-cam shorts lmao
Absolutely people say about brainrot but all other big social media ( TH-cam, Facebook and Instagram) have copied that same format for their own platform. Brainrot is going nowhere it will stay just TikTok is gone now . The psychological problem with attention span has not been solved.
4:15 there is a huge difference between tiktok where they get all the info of your birth, exact location, privacy, etc + your personal day to day videos you upload there.. to random games where they have only gameplay stats.
They shouldn't have even had to censor it... But america is lacking in self discipline and so not being able to not use it ourselves, the government had to do it for us... Because we collectively acted like children in need of a parent to tell us "no". Unfortunately, this means we will be on a steady decline from here.
No censorship is happening, TikTok had the opportunity to divest and sell to an American company, they purposely chose to get banned because they’re a malicious company / platform.
Please look into the details of the ban, none of this was for our protection. You and everyone cheering it on should be worried that the government just stepped all over our freedom of choice.
By what metrics exactly do you justify this action by the government? If your answer boils down to "It's how I feel," then your thoughts on the matter are worthless.
As someone who loves Genshin and plays it as a kind of coping mechanism for my really bad anxiety, I’m worried that they might come after that next. And I mean, they already did the other day.
Genshin Impact can't be used to organize public protests so it should be safe in the long term. Barring lawmakers going really off the rails then it should be out of the question.
While I'm not really broken up about TikTok this does set a dangerous precedent that any platform you enjoy could be banned and while it might be for security reasons this censorship leaves behind the lingering notion that it can happen again.
I've never used ticktock. The only parts i generally hate about it are how some people basically post themselves committing crimes and passing them off as pranks or challenges and the brain rott it csuses. They should have just banded that type of content and enforced stricter guidlines, not ticktock itself. Yes, you could make the argument that what im saying is censorship, but the stuff that can be considered criminal behaviour is a dangerous thing that needs monetering.
have u been on twitter and seen the illegal crap that can be on there and also facebook? Doing that wont solve anything and also the government doesnt directly get involved with that, wont solve any issues and people will find a way. It’s impossible to moderate everything
I mean they have all the right to ban TikTok its not a company created in the US to begin with. People don't call stopping importing guns in to a foreign country for censorship. There are also tons of other sites that does exactly what TikTok does.
I would not call it censorship because as a citizen you have the right to speak anything in any platform. Calling " Decommissioning of an echo chamber of people with brainrot content and potential data stealing" is not censorship. Honey for example did the scummy buissness and got caught years later, that could also be Tik Tok. Tik Tok was banned in India way before, if you ask anyone living there, they'd say, I couldn't be any happier that its banned. People who want to criticize often use TH-cam, Instagram and Facebook over there. I don't believe that this is censorship, if it is for the safety of the citizens. However, I also do think that there needs to be a fair law against all data regulation.
This actually affects down to Venezuela as well, because Nicolas Maduro has also banned TikTok and many other platforms to silence the people. Hence, they need to use a VPN to continue accessing such platforms, and now they can't even use USA servers to access this one app. The will have to use European servers and because of the long distance, connection is likely not going to be great.
Another problem is only ONE Hoyo game developer is being fined for selling lootboxes when Hoyo is just one of many companies with games with lootboxes. Why not ban all lootboxes since all of it is gambling? Why just go after one guy?
Tiktok shouldn't be banned but it should not allow people below 18 to join and if they do parents should be held responsible. Frankly, same goes for youtube. Get kids off social media, they can socialize outside- no, they SHOULD socialize outside.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
He is a massive Hipocrite, money and power are his vices and he wants to look like a hero if the ban lifts. Don't be fooled he's a part of why this occurred and the GOP create problem then pretends to fix the problem..... Why can't they move this fast on Guns, food coloring, water, public transportation. Don't be fooled this man is a true demon and shouldn't be trusted, everything he does is selfserving. Gives you back the app and raise you're taxes while cutting even more taxes for the ultra rich.
not really. At the time he wanted it banned, US data for TikTok was stored overseas. He was arguably concerned about that. As soon as ByteDance established servers in the US, he pretty much dropped it. And then he actively started to be a champion of TikTok during Biden's administration. There's quite a bit of consistency and logic there if you dig, trace the lines of thought, and think things through.
they literally did this on purpose right before trump was going to become president again. they hate the fact he won in such a huge margin over kamela that it wasn't even debatable.
"how strict there personal data policies are" That means absolutely NOTHING in China. Tik Tok is owned by Bytedance. Bytedance is based in Beijing, China. Companies based in China are legally obligated by the Chinese Communist Party (AKA The Chinese Government) to allow the CCP to backdoor them to harvest data. Meaning that a foreign government that is openly hostile towards the US that routinely pays their friendly local cybercriminals to perform cyber attacks on US citizens is just allowed to spy on every US citizen that uses the app. THAT IS WHY IT IS BEING BANNED.
I agree. While I couldn't care less about TikTok going away since I never used it in the first place, the fact that this decision opens the door to the government having more control what you have access to on the internet is frightening. Since the condition for TikTok returning was mainly to sell it off to a different company, this most likely won't change the precedent that was set. Unless I missed seeing something that indicates things like this won't happen again, we could still potentially see bans of other sites and services occur in the future.
One big reason TikTok was banned that Chibi didn't mention? It allowed people to learn a very inconvenient truth that the most powerful lobby in America doesn't want to get out about a conflict that has been going on since early October of 2023.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad. Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
honestly I think social media has run it's course. If they ban other social media sites/ apps, then so be it. I can see/understand your point that the censorship can transition to other media like anime or tv shows, etc. However that's still conjecture and you're assuming a pattern will start to form.
I've been talking about my disapproval of the ban for a while now, but even then I didn't think it would be this bad. Hopefully this gets reversed soon.
Random Thought Idea for a romance anime A boy gets rejected by so many girls he no longer believes any girl would want him, however when a girl finally confesses to him, he refuses to believe it, so the girl keeps trying crazy ideas to prove her love until the boy finally believes her feelings are true. Working Title: My Senpai Doesn’t Believe My Love is Genuine.
it’s a pretty cool idea, i’d say the closest thing to it would be the anime “The World God Only Knows”, where the mc is only obsessed with 2d girls and when eventually a girl falls in love with him, he doesn’t quite understand it (I can’t say more because it would spoil the series)
I personally believe if it was used like how the Chinese use it now it most likely wouldn’t have been facing bans and more likely would be viewed as more educational.
I agree with Chibi's position on censorship. I do question what proposed solution anyone has to deal with the threats to privacy, as well as espionage, and identity theft presented by the actions of TicTock and other similar data collection operations foreign and domestic.
So now we're free from the pranksters and cringe dancers? Phew... Jokes aside, the downside of this is that legitimate and honest businesses will be hit hard by this. I only feel bad for them. All the other 9 year olds and grown a*s adults being weird can go touch grass.
I may barely use TikTok, and I do have my issues as to why people use it (mainly for those dangerous and illegal TikTok challenges) but the government banning it is too much. Not to mention that people have fled to RedNote so the ban pretty much backfired
As much as I don't like TikTok, outright censoring the thing isn't the right solution... Imagine them doing the same thing to anime... Oh wait, we don't have to...
Well, the us government gave bytedance a grace period to sell tiktok to an american company or face a shutdown, guess which they chose. Plus do you really think the ccp would allow bytedance (chinese company) to sell tiktok to an american company?
This hardly counts as Censorship since they arent banning the TYPE of content, but rather a specific purveyor of it who, do to legal requirements by the Communist Government running the country they are based in, must hand over any and all data they have on every US citizen that uses the platform to a Communist Government that is openly hostile towards us and routinely commits cybercrimes against us. And I don't mean one foreign governments attacking another, I'm talking the CCP Pays state sponsored hacker groups to infect the computers of regular joes like you and I. Japan doesn't do that last I knew, so anime really isn't gonna suffer the same fate and anyone crying about how this is "Censorship" and about "Slippery Slope" are fear mongering.
@@anthonyschlott916 I know. You're right. But that's honestly how it is with everything right now: Censorship, Parenting, Jobs; there is no one solution. I'm of the opinion that complex issues involve consistent regulation, and the real issue stems from people not wanting to put in the effort to regulate, yet expects situations to run smoothly on their behalf just because.
Why would US ban NATO partnered countries games 😅? China, Russia, Iran are our main antagonist nations. We will scrutinize them. We work directly with information sharing to NATO countries, so we know what data they get.
@@xana_berries296 Genshin Impact recieved a 20 million fine for lootboxes , ignoring all other gacha games , Mobile Legends : Bang Bang was banned yesterday , and everything related to Tencent and CATL .
True, this is some kind of censorship. But from where I stand, I see it more like "you are not own by USA and you have this major success? You have be own by USA, no one else in the world has the right to have this success than us" type of mindset.
I won't sugarcoat it myself, I am one of those said hypocrites. Here i am saying good riddance to Tiktok but here i was a few weeks ago playing Marvel Rivals. Do I enjoy being as such? Not all the time but that's just how I am and I'm sure if something i enjoy like Helldivers 2 at the moment gets censored in some way I'll likely be back here complaining about it. Basically I'm self aware enough to know of my own hypocrisy and just have just learned to live my life with it.
My view on TikTok is complicated. I dont like the ideal of the government having to shut down a business, but it's legitimately harmful and potentially dangerous. At what point do we decide to stop mindlessly marching towards oblivion? It's not based or enlightened to do that; it's stupid.
I'm also against this because even though I also don't like tick Tock either, it could potentially leave into banning of other things like Hoyo games for example because they're also Chinese made games and a Chinese company and most people tend to forget that because they kind of look Japanese and there's even Japanese language English subtitle options for those games like Genshin & HSR & ZZZ could also be affected and it's also because I'm in Canada and most Canadians use the American server for those games because we kind of have to. So if something is banned in the US, it'll be effectively banned in Canada too because most Canadians use American servers
I agree with everything said in this video, 100%. And this might also be a "chess move for power" so to speak, but we also have to keep in mind that you cannot use western social media on china too, unless you have a VPN, so where can we trace the line really? I think this is the real question, and I don't think we will ever be able to answer it.
Other countries ban American websites but still it's very stupid. If they are so worried about security make the workers at government facilities carry a business phone but they won't because they aren't going to pay for it.
People here obviously do not understand what censorship is Just because some shitty app is temporarily down because shady company is not censorship, the moment it would be about legal content of the app we talk different 🤦♀
It is sadly always true that you can lose everything you ever loved at any point in billions of different ways. You might find yourself asking where your baby can be. Clue: . . . . . . She's gone to heaven, so I've got to be good So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
The problem we have is where we have to draw the lines between principles and pragmatism. I don’t like TikTok at all, as I think it contributes to an overwhelming majority of the brainless behavior we’ve seen in recent years. But at the same time, you cannot fix the issue immediately all the time; you need to damage control and slow the problem down for the most immediate threat first. At some point, we’re going to have to either drop principles for pragmatic efficiency, or risk doing something that has significant consequences. I don’t like it, but unfortunately, there’s no way this situation will change without directly affecting foreign relations, a dramatic shift in CCP operations/principles, or a cultural shift in the US. And it will require dramatic actions for any of those to occur, which worries me.
And Trump can unban TikTok. That means he can unban anime also. He wrote a statement about writing an executive order to unban it and now it’s back online ChibiReviews.
Just a heads up, according to LegalEagle, who cited the document pertaining to the ban, it specifically refers to ByteDance and all of their subsidiaries, which Marvel Rivals and CapCut both fall under.
I would be feeling even the faintest sense of sorry for it, if it wasn't because it had been long confirmed to be spy ware. However unlike that brainrot factory which already has a replacement to begin with, Genshin Impact and the rest of the chinese games, can be saved. I'm sure chinese devs and publishers will work something out.
Honestly I wasn’t all for the ban for TikTok as much as I hate the app stupid it made people be I was more worried about the fact that app was able to steal your personal information was scary but hopefully Trump will reinstated for another company because I don’t companies stealing information from us.
that's what is gonna be the negotiations probably. from what I understand if they don't meet the rules, the usa just permanently bans it. has already shown they can do it.
While i do hate tiktok and the damage it has done with regards attention spans, brainrot content and the stories i have heard of people either getting seriously harmed or even worse because of the "challenges" that trend every now and then.... i do think that outright banning the platform is a bit extreme.. i never downloaded tiktok myself as i can't keep up with short form content (i find it too fast and i can barely keep up with what's being said, same with youtube shorts and others like that)
Im not nearly as upset about this as you because i see this app as a way for the CCP to get into the heads of our populace. It's been far too effective at that, and singularly effective at that. But i wish there were a less draconian solution.
Wise of them to start with something most sensible people won't care about getting banned. The real question now is what else will be banned riding this as a president.
@G12DG12D-jy6ym at most what you could somewhat do to protect the younger generations is to put up age restrictions, but not like that has actually held anyone back 😅
people can be concerned all they want, that's understandable. However, tik tok has done so much damage to younger generations we have yet to quantify it. So no tik tok being banned is a good thing. I personally think short term content should be banned in general, that includes youtube shorts, straight up. Now as for apps from china, the issue with a number of those apps is not the data collection. The issue comes down to exploitation in some cases. For example gacha games. I do not think gacha games should be banned for simply existing. However, gacha games is content being peddles to younger generations to get them addicted early. On top of that these games are allowed to get away with exploiting gambling addicts with no oversight at how gambling would usually be regulated. So yes gacha games should be adhering to gambling laws, finding alternative monetization, or be banned, simple as. If that were to happen, a lot of the P2W trash would not seep in to more than just mobile gaming because even triple A tries to gamblify console and PC titles.
The sweeping bans you speak of doesnt actually stretch that far tho. The bill said something along the lines of foreign adversary controlled app. So that list is very small for the most part. Like i guess all chinese / russian owned apps are gunna be more easily targetted but a majority of those apps arent as invasive as tik tok was in the agrerements where it wants access to most everything on your phone and isnt in a place to heavily influence a good size portion of the population. Like all in all, i never used tik tok so it doesnt effect me currently.
I don’t like tik tok too, I personally think there should be something like a daily off time built in, put on the app so the people could be reminded to get off the app. I agree that, if they are so against tik tok, being a Chinese app, they should be against all Chinese apps, total.
Dreamcrusher time: it's not completely like anime, no Japanese woman is going to date you, and you will be highly discriminated against. I love me some anime or I wouldn't be watching this channel, but Weaboos really need to correct the image of Japan in their minds. It is NOT the Utopia we think it is because Anime and the REALLY don't like us like that. It's one thing if we are VISITING, but if we try and MOVE there, they don't dig that much. They PREFER to be culturally homogenous.
Call me single-minded but I think this is a good thing. We have to pick our battles and I think tik tok is not worth saving. We can fight twice as hard when it's an app we actually care about for now I'm fine with it
UPDATE: Its back!
This is full-blown censorship and I'm against it, despite me hating TikTok
It has been a longtime coming, unfortunately. The owners were even given a period of grace to comply with the White House's terms before being banned.
Still though, I wouldn't miss it too much.
Im against it too but TikTok still sucks either way
Funny thing is that Trump is the one whose idea banning TikTok was xD
@ChibiReviews
There are Data Security Regulations (if not, then it can be legislated in high hopes) to keep User Data here in the USA. To expunged the selling, buying, trading, showing, or sharing, etc. of User Data. To allow User Collection but only under "on server" locality. That is later on deleted before a company is merged or undone, etc.
If this was truly a cyber security concern, then that is the regulatory response/amendment. Effectively immediately to all domestic and foreign companies, individuals, groups, etc.
Economic and "the narrative" wise? That's a red fish and not worth my time. It's a fair game for any company under the 1st Amendment USA and under Commerce Regulations USA.
This allows everyone to enter the market as a company without becoming a national security issue.
Here's my question Chibi. Are you and your fiancé going to move to a different country to protest this?
Everyone who doesn't have TikTok to begin with: "Oh no, anyway."
I generally didn’t care and why would I? The app only makes people stupid and all of these defenders defending TikTok are genuinely pathetic and all need to go outside
That…..is me.
Thas pretty disturbing mindset. Letting the government just ban and censor anything will never be a good thing
It's me i freaking hate tiktok
not really everyone ive seen that doesnt use it has been saying good and they are glad its gone.
Censorship is bad! I hate censorship!
You have plenty of other apps to use grow up
@@falcongamer58 you hadn't herd of the whole credit card companies forcing Japan's manga/anime to censor +18 content by not allowing manga websites to use credit cards on their website forcing them to shut down, and theoretically this could happen to anything if the companies decided to not support it. which is bad for things like indie shows which gets funded via merch websites. not to mention video games from Japan like Nintendo and PlayStation could get banned if this whole thing extends to other countries and not just China, but it's unlikely.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
@falcongamer58 womp womp yall don't hate censorship you just hate when you dont get what you want, yall didn't have shit to say when the chinese government banned their citizens from using the American version of TikTok Tok and yall aint going to say shit when they ban their own citizens from using Red Note and have to use the chinese version that's heavily censored, you want to cry about censorship while this government puts Muslims in concentration camps then lie to yourselves about how it's from Singapore when its fucking not.
@@falcongamer58 there are plenty of other apps that are not disguised spyware run by a country that is effectively at war with your country
As a Russian, I send my condolences to Americans. Hope that the situation isn't going to get on the same level as in my country.
Russia is based, stop being beta and have some integrity. If you are truly censored you wouldn't be talking here now.
@@WieldMyWordCould you please explain what you exactly mean by "integrity"?
@@Randomperson-rk7xl you guys have cleaner cities to begin with.
@@merafirewing6591But we are clearly not talking about the cleanliness of Russian cities here. The topic of discussion is different.
@@WieldMyWordHave you ever considered a possibility that i'm not currently in Russia or that i simply know ways to bypass the restrictions or both? Maybe that is why i'm able to talk to you right now? It is almost impossible to watch TH-cam in Russia or use Discord without using some crutches. Forgive me for my integrity, but censorship doesn't have to cover every single form of media in order to be considered true censorship. And the fact that someone can bypass the restrictions doesn't make censorship that people experience any less true.
Everyone: you’re not dead.
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I don't like TikTok but I also dislike censorship! I agree with all of your points you stated in your video.
Then you should support it. TikTok was the most censorious and content controlled platform. We aren’t censoring anything by banning TikTok, if anything we’re stopping malicious content and censorship.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
@@killerjdog51 "We aren’t censoring anything by banning TikTok, if anything we’re _stopping_ malicious _content_ "
No surprise there that a censorship advocate isn't smart enough to realize that they contradicted themselves within the same sentence.
ngl i never in my life expected to hear him say genshin impact
I'm kinda suprised honestly that companies tried to stop this law since large companies use TikTok for marketing. Especially the likes of Disney.
Since the motivation behind the ban is data collection of the country’s population(something that federal intelligence would rather not want competition in since FB and Twitter/X do the same), major companies that work with online retailers or an online business model where streaming is factored into that, may also be effected by any new regulations for user data. More regulations of course means more legal fees to pay the cost for. Mind you, when major companies say that they’re against something that is being considered or written up to be law, it’s more so because they’d rather have lobbyists getting their chance for bidding new rules to be in their favor.
"China will spy on us. Only we can do that!" -Goverment / US based Companies
"We need data protection laws." - EU
And then they arrest people for tweets, revealing that they don't actually care about freedom of expression.
The thing is The US isn't your rival lol and they won't give you rights and democracy. The USA, while its privacy violations are still bad, does.
i don't know if you were dropped as a kid. but in no world should you as a American citizen think that because American companies collect your data that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO AS WELL. you need to grow up.
The US has data protection laws, they still can and do take data but they’re limited in how they can collect and sell that data. TikTok is under no such restrictions
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
Correction... Non USA Company can not be banned in America, in regard to Platforms. That's always been the case under sovereignty, like all other nations can do. Regardless of other laws in America. In the same way that our Laws do not apply outside of America.
Exactly
The law is stupid they need to riot and get the app back tomorrow
Bye bye tiktok
To me, i dont really care about Tik Tok, but its more the principal. If you can ban something like this, who can say you cant ban other stuff made overseas?
It’s definitely a mixed bag, as TikTok has tie to the Chinese government and they also gave them the option to sell the part that serves America to prevent a ban.
That being said, this still isn’t a great thing. They will almost certainly use this to steadily start to control more and more media, using flimsier and flimsier excuses to do so. That’s why I ultimately don’t really support this ban, despite understanding the reasoning
@@professorpenne9962 IS US CHINA???
@@professorpenne9962 Then why are you giving the example of censorship full authoritarian dictatorship of China?
Banning something harmful for society is actually pretty good, you know? At least, from the real Earth planet I am from, we think it is.
@@professorpenne9962i dont like ticktock but we do have the 1st amendment. It's a place where people can speak meaning it's protected.
TikTok is Chinese spyware, The ban in question doesn't mean you'll be thrown in jail for using it, you can still access it with a VPN or use an older version, this is not censorship this is protecting people from an adversarial government, all the company that owns TikTok had to do was sell the US operations of TikTok to a US company, which they for whatever reason don't want to do, also TikTok is not accessable in China, so it's censored in it's place of origin. I get wanting to stand for the First Amendment, however it doesn't apply to foreign governments and especially adversarial foreign governments.
You mean like Apple was caught spying.
If Chinese spyware is so bad .
Why iPhone are made in China .
This is about control .
"I'm from the government and i'm here to protect you..." 😶🌫️
@@imperium4821 Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
The funny thing is that Tik-Tok at noon on the 19th issued a new statement thanking Trump for intervening and allowing it to restore service on Tuesday the 21st WITHOUT government any restrictions because Trump has decided that what Tik-Tok was doing is not a problem. It looks like all those people worried about data privacy and spyware are wrong because Trump just sold-out.
Whatever excuses they make don't change the fact that it's still censorship
It funny...since it was Trump that pushed for it in 2021....
Yup, before tiktok was banned so many people were thankfully already aware of that
Yea but your wonderfully joe was the wone wbo banned it. The democrats @NitehawkGaming maybe if tik tok blokced and bamned all the nazi isrealhatimg leftists it wouldnt off been banned.
First, anime can and has been banned and censored forever. A lot of localization has been about censoring content and changing it to something more acceptable for western audiences, which is sill because people don't watch anime to see a western take on it.
Secondly, TikTok had an option to not be banned. It wasn't ideal, but if the company that owned the platform cared about the users (protip, few companies care about their customers) then they could have sold it to an american company.
The main issue is that the site was gathering data on american citizens, which yeah places like YT does that as well but it's bad when they do it too. I personally wish the govs, if anything, would start making laws protecting its citizens from those types of online predatory tactics.
I’m also against censorship myself, but something really is/was fishy with TikTok.
Please don’t yell at me in the comments, I’m just trying to share my opinion.
nothing wrong with sharing your opinion
@ Thank you. I’ve been heckled into leaving some communities for sharing a different opinion on a matter. It’s nice to see you yourself won’t do that.
The thing is, if that fishy thing is illegal, then TikTok would need to be fined or banned because of this illegal thing. If it's not illegal, but it should be, then the laws are to blame here, not TikTok.
Banning with no context as to why it was banned with no laws to justify the ban other than "We want it gone", is cencorship, and is wrong.
Can you come up with any facts???
I'm probably reading too much into it, but this video feels like an indirect response to TBYS (Think Before You Sleep) making a video where he more or less reacts to a Chibi video and declares "censorship is scary, but it's fine when it targets the four-letter-word."
(Why don't I just type the word? I'm pretty sure many of my comments get deleted due to bots, TH-cam basically self-reports this by still giving me notifications on new replies into comment chains that do not have my comment anymore.)
Unlike what normies think of video games, TikTok has actually influenced kids to do dumbass and dangerous stuff. However, that's not the platform's fault, it's the idiots that let it influence them. Yet that and brainrot will have many say "oh yeah that's ok to get rid of", because they don't like it. Similar stuff is going on with anime and games, but especially with anime is happening more sneakily with card companies
First they came for TikTok, and I said nothing, because I didn't care about the brainrot.
Then they came for the gacha games, and I did nothing, because I don't need to spend thousands of dollars on imaginary pixels
Then they came for me, and I was like "but I don't understand? How can they do this to me?"
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
this poam is relevent. becouse they will take anything from you now. Trumps order fails and your going to see youtube erased eventually. Probly also marvel rivals as its a Chinese product
Exactly this.
"I threw every form of content I personally don't care about under the bus when censorship was coming after them, why is it coming after me now?"
Yes thank you! It's honestly kinda disturbing how many people don't realize this, and are happy to see Tiktok (or anything they don't like) censored.
My friend said he's glad TikTok was banned in US because it was a huge cause of brainrot. So i absolutely flamed him because he says that while watching TH-cam shorts lmao
Absolutely people say about brainrot but all other big social media ( TH-cam, Facebook and Instagram) have copied that same format for their own platform. Brainrot is going nowhere it will stay just TikTok is gone now . The psychological problem with attention span has not been solved.
Your friend is right and your brain is rot. haha Funny, right? ha
@MGJpredador TH-cam shorts really broke your brain and your grammer, huh?
@@samaelpendragon777 I think most always had short attention span. so its normal.
@@zenmasta4188 You clearly weren't around in the pre-tiktok days
not even three weeks in and 2025 is already crazy. This is going to be a loooong year.
it wasnt even 13hrs into 2025 when it got crazy with 2 different terror attacks
Yeah
Correction:
*4* long years.
Let me correct: everything you love can also be a weapon against you
He's out of line. But, he's right.
4:15 there is a huge difference between tiktok where they get all the info of your birth, exact location, privacy, etc + your personal day to day videos you upload there.. to random games where they have only gameplay stats.
They shouldn't have even had to censor it... But america is lacking in self discipline and so not being able to not use it ourselves, the government had to do it for us... Because we collectively acted like children in need of a parent to tell us "no".
Unfortunately, this means we will be on a steady decline from here.
No censorship is happening, TikTok had the opportunity to divest and sell to an American company, they purposely chose to get banned because they’re a malicious company / platform.
No
Please look into the details of the ban, none of this was for our protection.
You and everyone cheering it on should be worried that the government just stepped all over our freedom of choice.
Gee, it's like we been politically subverted to be dependent of others.
By what metrics exactly do you justify this action by the government? If your answer boils down to "It's how I feel," then your thoughts on the matter are worthless.
As someone who loves Genshin and plays it as a kind of coping mechanism for my really bad anxiety, I’m worried that they might come after that next. And I mean, they already did the other day.
Thankfully that was a bit different
Genshin Impact can't be used to organize public protests so it should be safe in the long term. Barring lawmakers going really off the rails then it should be out of the question.
Why would they? It just a video game
I thought it was fake at first until I saw my friends and family post pictures of it on Instagram (I personally don’t use TikTok)
While I'm not really broken up about TikTok this does set a dangerous precedent that any platform you enjoy could be banned and while it might be for security reasons this censorship leaves behind the lingering notion that it can happen again.
None of these platforms you speak of are controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. They'll be fine.
I am a Canadian and tiktok is still working for me. My fyp is flooded with Canadian, UK and Australian content right now 😅
I've never used ticktock. The only parts i generally hate about it are how some people basically post themselves committing crimes and passing them off as pranks or challenges and the brain rott it csuses.
They should have just banded that type of content and enforced stricter guidlines, not ticktock itself.
Yes, you could make the argument that what im saying is censorship, but the stuff that can be considered criminal behaviour is a dangerous thing that needs monetering.
have u been on twitter and seen the illegal crap that can be on there and also facebook? Doing that wont solve anything and also the government doesnt directly get involved with that, wont solve any issues and people will find a way. It’s impossible to moderate everything
I mean they have all the right to ban TikTok its not a company created in the US to begin with. People don't call stopping importing guns in to a foreign country for censorship. There are also tons of other sites that does exactly what TikTok does.
I never used it and the attention span issue is absolutely a problem but the problem is that this sets a standard for them to do this to everything
I would not call it censorship because as a citizen you have the right to speak anything in any platform. Calling " Decommissioning of an echo chamber of people with brainrot content and potential data stealing" is not censorship. Honey for example did the scummy buissness and got caught years later, that could also be Tik Tok. Tik Tok was banned in India way before, if you ask anyone living there, they'd say, I couldn't be any happier that its banned. People who want to criticize often use TH-cam, Instagram and Facebook over there. I don't believe that this is censorship, if it is for the safety of the citizens. However, I also do think that there needs to be a fair law against all data regulation.
This actually affects down to Venezuela as well, because Nicolas Maduro has also banned TikTok and many other platforms to silence the people. Hence, they need to use a VPN to continue accessing such platforms, and now they can't even use USA servers to access this one app. The will have to use European servers and because of the long distance, connection is likely not going to be great.
And everything that is banned can be easily circumvented. lol
Not easily, not for everyone.
My manz Chibi always here when you need him I’ve heard rumors about TikTok being banned but I thought it would be too popular to be touched
Another problem is only ONE Hoyo game developer is being fined for selling lootboxes when Hoyo is just one of many companies with games with lootboxes. Why not ban all lootboxes since all of it is gambling? Why just go after one guy?
I'm just happy because this exposes US hypocrisy in its criticism of chinese government censorship for even normies to finally see.
EXACTLY! 💯💯💯
Tiktok shouldn't be banned but it should not allow people below 18 to join and if they do parents should be held responsible. Frankly, same goes for youtube. Get kids off social media, they can socialize outside- no, they SHOULD socialize outside.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
This TikTok ban is really crazy, I even posted a video on how brands can grow in the USA after the TikTok ban
Trump also wanted tik tok banned cuz, also a power move, when he was in his past period. If he lifts the ban, it will make him a massive hipocrite.
He is a massive Hipocrite, money and power are his vices and he wants to look like a hero if the ban lifts. Don't be fooled he's a part of why this occurred and the GOP create problem then pretends to fix the problem..... Why can't they move this fast on Guns, food coloring, water, public transportation. Don't be fooled this man is a true demon and shouldn't be trusted, everything he does is selfserving. Gives you back the app and raise you're taxes while cutting even more taxes for the ultra rich.
But he didnt. So what?
not really. At the time he wanted it banned, US data for TikTok was stored overseas. He was arguably concerned about that. As soon as ByteDance established servers in the US, he pretty much dropped it. And then he actively started to be a champion of TikTok during Biden's administration. There's quite a bit of consistency and logic there if you dig, trace the lines of thought, and think things through.
This day is the worst day ever Sunday is a terrible day without tiktok I need to find something else to do
they literally did this on purpose right before trump was going to become president again. they hate the fact he won in such a huge margin over kamela that it wasn't even debatable.
As an indian I'm quite surprised how late America have taken decision to ban tiktok considering how strict there personal data policies are
"how strict there personal data policies are"
That means absolutely NOTHING in China.
Tik Tok is owned by Bytedance. Bytedance is based in Beijing, China.
Companies based in China are legally obligated by the Chinese Communist Party (AKA The Chinese Government) to allow the CCP to backdoor them to harvest data.
Meaning that a foreign government that is openly hostile towards the US that routinely pays their friendly local cybercriminals to perform cyber attacks on US citizens is just allowed to spy on every US citizen that uses the app.
THAT IS WHY IT IS BEING BANNED.
I agree. While I couldn't care less about TikTok going away since I never used it in the first place, the fact that this decision opens the door to the government having more control what you have access to on the internet is frightening. Since the condition for TikTok returning was mainly to sell it off to a different company, this most likely won't change the precedent that was set. Unless I missed seeing something that indicates things like this won't happen again, we could still potentially see bans of other sites and services occur in the future.
Remember:
Then they came for me, and by then, no one was left to speak up for me.
I am very happy! Finally, people in the land of plenty are experiencing our problems of geopolitical restrictions! Internet freedom. . . . !
One big reason TikTok was banned that Chibi didn't mention? It allowed people to learn a very inconvenient truth that the most powerful lobby in America doesn't want to get out about a conflict that has been going on since early October of 2023.
Data theft being unpunished is bad. Data theft by a foreign enemy that uses grape as torture & harvests the organs of minorities is bad. Censorship is bad.
Banning TikTok is not bad, it's a good thing.
Yeah I'm surprised more people haven't made that connection.
Music to my ears
Nothing of value regarding Tiktok has been lost. Anime on the other hand… everything is lost is it’s banned.
Censorship is gross, shouldve been left in the 1930's and 40's
honestly I think social media has run it's course. If they ban other social media sites/ apps, then so be it. I can see/understand your point that the censorship can transition to other media like anime or tv shows, etc. However that's still conjecture and you're assuming a pattern will start to form.
I've been talking about my disapproval of the ban for a while now, but even then I didn't think it would be this bad. Hopefully this gets reversed soon.
Random Thought
Idea for a romance anime
A boy gets rejected by so many girls he no longer believes any girl would want him, however when a girl finally confesses to him, he refuses to believe it, so the girl keeps trying crazy ideas to prove her love until the boy finally believes her feelings are true.
Working Title: My Senpai Doesn’t Believe My Love is Genuine.
it’s a pretty cool idea, i’d say the closest thing to it would be the anime “The World God Only Knows”, where the mc is only obsessed with 2d girls and when eventually a girl falls in love with him, he doesn’t quite understand it (I can’t say more because it would spoil the series)
Capcut also got ban....
Thank you for being honest with us about where you stand, that’s why I’m subscribe to you…
It helps when TikTok donating to your campaign
Vpns exist guys, unless one can afford ofc.
And this is coming from someone who's sorry for those Americans ofc.
Vpn is a toy. It's very easy to notice if ur using a vpn or not.
Guess what. You're only ALLOWED to use vpn. For now.
Question
Is there anything stopping Tic-toc content from being on any other platform?
literally 1984
I personally believe if it was used like how the Chinese use it now it most likely wouldn’t have been facing bans and more likely would be viewed as more educational.
I agree with Chibi's position on censorship. I do question what proposed solution anyone has to deal with the threats to privacy, as well as espionage, and identity theft presented by the actions of TicTock and other similar data collection operations foreign and domestic.
So now we're free from the pranksters and cringe dancers? Phew...
Jokes aside, the downside of this is that legitimate and honest businesses will be hit hard by this. I only feel bad for them. All the other 9 year olds and grown a*s adults being weird can go touch grass.
I may barely use TikTok, and I do have my issues as to why people use it (mainly for those dangerous and illegal TikTok challenges) but the government banning it is too much. Not to mention that people have fled to RedNote so the ban pretty much backfired
On a more positive note - with tiktok gone, every worker in the USA under the age of 40 that owns a smart phone just increased their productivity 80%
As much as I don't like TikTok, outright censoring the thing isn't the right solution...
Imagine them doing the same thing to anime... Oh wait, we don't have to...
Well, the us government gave bytedance a grace period to sell tiktok to an american company or face a shutdown, guess which they chose.
Plus do you really think the ccp would allow bytedance (chinese company) to sell tiktok to an american company?
This hardly counts as Censorship since they arent banning the TYPE of content, but rather a specific purveyor of it who, do to legal requirements by the Communist Government running the country they are based in, must hand over any and all data they have on every US citizen that uses the platform to a Communist Government that is openly hostile towards us and routinely commits cybercrimes against us.
And I don't mean one foreign governments attacking another, I'm talking the CCP Pays state sponsored hacker groups to infect the computers of regular joes like you and I.
Japan doesn't do that last I knew, so anime really isn't gonna suffer the same fate and anyone crying about how this is "Censorship" and about "Slippery Slope" are fear mongering.
So what IS the right solution? We're talking about a pretty multifaceted problem here where every solution you can think of has drawbacks.
@@anthonyschlott916 I know. You're right. But that's honestly how it is with everything right now: Censorship, Parenting, Jobs; there is no one solution.
I'm of the opinion that complex issues involve consistent regulation, and the real issue stems from people not wanting to put in the effort to regulate, yet expects situations to run smoothly on their behalf just because.
Hey Chibi another thing to take into notice they banned all server of China games. Just China Games, no korea, no Japan.
China only app and games
Can you give examples?
Japan and Korea aren't enemy nations...
Why would US ban NATO partnered countries games 😅? China, Russia, Iran are our main antagonist nations. We will scrutinize them. We work directly with information sharing to NATO countries, so we know what data they get.
@@xana_berries296 Genshin Impact recieved a 20 million fine for lootboxes , ignoring all other gacha games , Mobile Legends : Bang Bang was banned yesterday , and everything related to Tencent and CATL .
TikTok: *banned in the US*
Time for the users to go to other countries where TikTok is still a thing there.
TikTok been banned in India and Oman for a while so you guys will be fine
Americans are very egocentric and don't really know that the world exists,
You don’t have the money to do that 😂😂
if that's your criteria to move to a different country then...you probably should lol.
I remember when "TikTok" first came out when it wasn't really a thing at the time and I didn't care about it then and I don't care about it now.
True, this is some kind of censorship.
But from where I stand, I see it more like "you are not own by USA and you have this major success? You have be own by USA, no one else in the world has the right to have this success than us" type of mindset.
I won't sugarcoat it myself, I am one of those said hypocrites. Here i am saying good riddance to Tiktok but here i was a few weeks ago playing Marvel Rivals. Do I enjoy being as such? Not all the time but that's just how I am and I'm sure if something i enjoy like Helldivers 2 at the moment gets censored in some way I'll likely be back here complaining about it. Basically I'm self aware enough to know of my own hypocrisy and just have just learned to live my life with it.
My view on TikTok is complicated. I dont like the ideal of the government having to shut down a business, but it's legitimately harmful and potentially dangerous. At what point do we decide to stop mindlessly marching towards oblivion? It's not based or enlightened to do that; it's stupid.
Itt's unbanned now
i know, it's due to the company citing the U.S First amendment rights under the US Constitution. that's why....
Banned ≠ unavailable.
I'm also against this because even though I also don't like tick Tock either, it could potentially leave into banning of other things like Hoyo games for example because they're also Chinese made games and a Chinese company and most people tend to forget that because they kind of look Japanese and there's even Japanese language English subtitle options for those games like Genshin & HSR & ZZZ could also be affected and it's also because I'm in Canada and most Canadians use the American server for those games because we kind of have to. So if something is banned in the US, it'll be effectively banned in Canada too because most Canadians use American servers
Yes...that's how things have ALWAYS worked!!! They really aren't teaching ANYTHING in schools these days...🤣
I agree with everything said in this video, 100%. And this might also be a "chess move for power" so to speak, but we also have to keep in mind that you cannot use western social media on china too, unless you have a VPN, so where can we trace the line really? I think this is the real question, and I don't think we will ever be able to answer it.
Other countries ban American websites but still it's very stupid. If they are so worried about security make the workers at government facilities carry a business phone but they won't because they aren't going to pay for it.
2026: "I brought back TikTok."
People here obviously do not understand what censorship is
Just because some shitty app is temporarily down because shady company is not censorship, the moment it would be about legal content of the app we talk different
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It is sadly always true that you can lose everything you ever loved at any point in billions of different ways. You might find yourself asking where your baby can be.
Clue:
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She's gone to heaven, so I've got to be good
So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
I saw videos of people crying about the ban on twitter, i couldn’t stop myself from laughing 😂
Will you laugh when they ban anime next?
now hold on a sec, let's see how much stupidity goes down and see if this is worth it.
i don't like tiktok but it was the only serious competition youtube had so now they can fork us up again
The problem we have is where we have to draw the lines between principles and pragmatism.
I don’t like TikTok at all, as I think it contributes to an overwhelming majority of the brainless behavior we’ve seen in recent years. But at the same time, you cannot fix the issue immediately all the time; you need to damage control and slow the problem down for the most immediate threat first.
At some point, we’re going to have to either drop principles for pragmatic efficiency, or risk doing something that has significant consequences. I don’t like it, but unfortunately, there’s no way this situation will change without directly affecting foreign relations, a dramatic shift in CCP operations/principles, or a cultural shift in the US. And it will require dramatic actions for any of those to occur, which worries me.
And Trump can unban TikTok. That means he can unban anime also. He wrote a statement about writing an executive order to unban it and now it’s back online ChibiReviews.
...so there is the same discussion in the US now, we had several times during the last 15 years in germany already. ("Zensursula", DLsite etc.)
Just a heads up, according to LegalEagle, who cited the document pertaining to the ban, it specifically refers to ByteDance and all of their subsidiaries, which Marvel Rivals and CapCut both fall under.
I may despise TikTok, but censorship is far worse, and the fact people are cheering it on says how stupid people are.
Its stupid. You cant ban it into the shadow realm. Instead you should sen the people using it into the shadow realm. Just like the smokers and drunks.
I would be feeling even the faintest sense of sorry for it, if it wasn't because it had been long confirmed to be spy ware.
However unlike that brainrot factory which already has a replacement to begin with, Genshin Impact and the rest of the chinese games, can be saved.
I'm sure chinese devs and publishers will work something out.
Honestly I wasn’t all for the ban for TikTok as much as I hate the app stupid it made people be I was more worried about the fact that app was able to steal your personal information was scary but hopefully Trump will reinstated for another company because I don’t companies stealing information from us.
that's what is gonna be the negotiations probably. from what I understand if they don't meet the rules, the usa just permanently bans it. has already shown they can do it.
Bit you know that twitter, facebook, instagram all take and sell your info it’s just that they don’t like that TikTok isn’t owned by an “American “
While i do hate tiktok and the damage it has done with regards attention spans, brainrot content and the stories i have heard of people either getting seriously harmed or even worse because of the "challenges" that trend every now and then.... i do think that outright banning the platform is a bit extreme.. i never downloaded tiktok myself as i can't keep up with short form content (i find it too fast and i can barely keep up with what's being said, same with youtube shorts and others like that)
I don’t care about TikTok but it is very concerning that the government did ban it.
Im not nearly as upset about this as you because i see this app as a way for the CCP to get into the heads of our populace. It's been far too effective at that, and singularly effective at that. But i wish there were a less draconian solution.
Beware of Eastasian spies in Oceania.
TikTok banned? Good.
"Anime banned? Good. Rivals banned? Good. Miside banned? Good. ☝️🤓"
@@jaideepshekhar4621anime is not from china so it wouldn't be good for it to be banned
Wise of them to start with something most sensible people won't care about getting banned. The real question now is what else will be banned riding this as a president.
I feel like banning tiktok doesn't do much against the brainrot. If only TH-cam shorts and Instagram reels would also be removed 🙏
it's too late to remove tiktok because of brain rot
@G12DG12D-jy6ym at most what you could somewhat do to protect the younger generations is to put up age restrictions, but not like that has actually held anyone back 😅
people can be concerned all they want, that's understandable. However, tik tok has done so much damage to younger generations we have yet to quantify it. So no tik tok being banned is a good thing. I personally think short term content should be banned in general, that includes youtube shorts, straight up. Now as for apps from china, the issue with a number of those apps is not the data collection. The issue comes down to exploitation in some cases. For example gacha games. I do not think gacha games should be banned for simply existing.
However, gacha games is content being peddles to younger generations to get them addicted early. On top of that these games are allowed to get away with exploiting gambling addicts with no oversight at how gambling would usually be regulated. So yes gacha games should be adhering to gambling laws, finding alternative monetization, or be banned, simple as. If that were to happen, a lot of the P2W trash would not seep in to more than just mobile gaming because even triple A tries to gamblify console and PC titles.
The sweeping bans you speak of doesnt actually stretch that far tho. The bill said something along the lines of foreign adversary controlled app. So that list is very small for the most part. Like i guess all chinese / russian owned apps are gunna be more easily targetted but a majority of those apps arent as invasive as tik tok was in the agrerements where it wants access to most everything on your phone and isnt in a place to heavily influence a good size portion of the population.
Like all in all, i never used tik tok so it doesnt effect me currently.
I don’t like tik tok too, I personally think there should be something like a daily off time built in, put on the app so the people could be reminded to get off the app. I agree that, if they are so against tik tok, being a Chinese app, they should be against all Chinese apps, total.
Trump started the TikTok ban process in 2020... now he wants credit for "fixing it." Okie dokie
This was the last straw. I’m finally moving to Japan.
too bad japan will censor their content also, you can't escape it, censorship is global.
@@professorpenne9962Well, he can't go to China since the Chinese app is banned there 😂
Dreamcrusher time: it's not completely like anime, no Japanese woman is going to date you, and you will be highly discriminated against.
I love me some anime or I wouldn't be watching this channel, but Weaboos really need to correct the image of Japan in their minds. It is NOT the Utopia we think it is because Anime and the REALLY don't like us like that. It's one thing if we are VISITING, but if we try and MOVE there, they don't dig that much. They PREFER to be culturally homogenous.
This is why I try to buy physical media.
Also, pretty much everything that people go after ticktok for? Is true of other social media.
Call me single-minded but I think this is a good thing. We have to pick our battles and I think tik tok is not worth saving. We can fight twice as hard when it's an app we actually care about for now I'm fine with it
Twitter and youtube are more important
@william9170 yeah I hate Twitter but man it is a pillar for sure 🫠