Meta Knight Should Be Top Tier. What's Stopping Him? | Character Crisis

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  • @RufioTheThird
    @RufioTheThird ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I'm so happy I found this video. I absolutely love the idea of this series, such a fun concept.
    I love this channel and can't look forward to more of this after I watch your previous Character Crisis videos. Such a comforting series that feels so sincere which is content I've really missed. It really celebrates all fighters in this game that serves as a love letter to something you like first and content second which is something I always try and look for

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm so happy it resonated with you so much! I've been wanting to make content about smash for years but never had an idea I was happy with until now. Here's to the next 70 characters!

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird ปีที่แล้ว

      *I can't wait
      (Man, I wish you could edit pinned comments. Oh, and BTW, Dr. Mario hype)

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TuesdayTastic It's a fantastic idea for a Smash series, and I'm happy you find enjoyment in what you make, man. Here's to the future of Character Crisis!

  • @thomas1pharma
    @thomas1pharma ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I didnt notice that your character moves his mouth until now lmao

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's new technology haha, this is the first video in which I started doing that.

    • @thegreenrobby7402
      @thegreenrobby7402 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's definitely an upgrade in your production quality starting with this video, and the mouth thing is just one part of it

  • @oathstar18
    @oathstar18 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    When Brawl came out I mained MK without knowing he was broken, so when a friend and I went to a tournament and was told MK was banned, I knew I was screwed. Now many years later I now know he was indeed broken lol.

  • @benross9174
    @benross9174 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    MK is mostly held back by a really linear neutral, in my opinion. A lot of chraracters can just play around/cover his grounded options like dash grab/DA, and keep MK out forever/outbox him. He is also very inconcistent, as his combos are both character and percent specific, and at mid percents he is just not that scary of a character that generally has to work a lot harder to win neutral. Very tough character to solo main, although there are MUs he is great in, like heavies, most swordies, and especially floaty characters. Very strong CP character/anti meta threat, but pretty complex for a secondary. Great comain though

    • @ax8914
      @ax8914 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      imo mk players should use more of his other tools in neutral (dtilt fair nair etc.) and play more patiently with the character because he definitely has tools in neutral

    • @benross9174
      @benross9174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ax8914 yeh for sure, dtilt is relly good, but if DA is outspaced dtilt isnt gonna cut it. Thts why he has to whiff punish to function. He struggles a lot to get in, and is forced to be super patient to function

    • @RNGuice
      @RNGuice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benross9174That really sucks man😭
      Meta Knight was originally intended way back in the dawn of his introduction to be a sort of glass cannon rush down character . Unfortunately the smash team didn’t know of all the things that he could do on BOTH sides of that coin, from keeping himself alive longer through hitstun canceling, one of the best overall recoveries in smash history, a move that has priority over almost everything, a tiny sword that’s a little too disjointed, ledge regrabbing, and a system that doesn’t promote combos for anybody but like five maybe six characters. Then moving into smash 4 they had an entirely different development team. And they didn’t know what the hell Meta Knight was supposed to be, all they knew was that he was broken and needed to be nerfed. So ever since smash 4 we’ve been stuck with a broken (like little mac, not Kazuya) character.

    • @benross9174
      @benross9174 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RNGuice I mean he is still pretty good, has some meta relevant einning MUs as well like ROB and Min Min. He does feel like a shadow of his former self ofc, but he’s not bad

    • @RNGuice
      @RNGuice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benross9174 I do wish he was better though

  • @dragonsswarm1987
    @dragonsswarm1987 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've mostly played Ridley in the few times I've played smash ultimate, so this series seems like a good overview of the characters I would be interested in trying out.

  • @happymaster3290
    @happymaster3290 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:36 the reason that hit is you teleported Into the fighter you were pushed forward but still hit because of where you should've been

  • @afternoonz1126
    @afternoonz1126 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Watching your combo I really do think that you could main MK! Being able to already do some of those shows you can click with him with the time!

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the encouragement! Meta Knight is definitely the kind of character I could see working for me as long as I put in the time.

  • @LuigiXP
    @LuigiXP ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video as always! I always thought Meta Knight was a fun character but hes too complex for me too play often also I love how Palutena's hair turned gray because of the green screen lol anyways great video

  • @omurice2447
    @omurice2447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WAIT THE MOUTH MOVES IN THE PNG HERE AS WELL??
    Awesome vid as always! Being able to drop by the streams watch MK grow was a lot of fun.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's new as of this video haha

  • @austinhyer9274
    @austinhyer9274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep this up man! Love the series!

  • @RobertGunn
    @RobertGunn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great way to start my Tuesday mornings!! Thank you!

  • @exo_vvlpine
    @exo_vvlpine ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't believe you made me a meta knight believer
    Glad to see my first main in smash 4 getting his video
    keep the good work ❤

  • @PabulousPablo
    @PabulousPablo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Leo brought back the Meta Knight and beat Doramigi with Meta Knight. Hopefully he's able to show this character's true potential.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was watching those games last night and was saying "I wasn't wrong for believing in Meta Knight!" I was also saying "That's my goat" a lot haha

  • @Delta_Deuces
    @Delta_Deuces ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should do Robin next
    ..wait.. who?

  • @hudsonfoster456
    @hudsonfoster456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn’t even realize that you only had 2k subs until looked at the views and sub count on this video. Keep up the good work man! I hope by the end of the series you have around 50k subs.

  • @darklight1171
    @darklight1171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive mained meta knight for years from brawl to 4 but than didnt buy ultimate a year later not even touching the past games so the rust was alot and the difference felt weird but im back in a meta knight server and will reach way beyond what i was before! (Also amazing video and you didnt do bad at all for being inexperienced👍)

  • @D3NPC
    @D3NPC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As soon as I saw the thumbnail I said "NOT AGAIN"

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Profile picture checks out.

  • @bixielikesbloons
    @bixielikesbloons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo I made it into the video. GGs from malfunky, loved the video. Keep up the good work!

  • @GiantCaliber
    @GiantCaliber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Kirby casualties are… alarmingly high…

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't let that lazy kirby keep getting away with it

  • @AndrewAJT
    @AndrewAJT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good series

  • @pooking7i631
    @pooking7i631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fun fact: Mattbro (the ganondorf you lost to) has beaten Sparg0 before, so theres nothing to feel bad about.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew he was good but had no idea he beat Sparg0 dang

  • @Torchy0033
    @Torchy0033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the combo video!

  • @AlhiXD
    @AlhiXD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's a suggestion. A slept on character that can dominate in the right hands. 2213 Mii Swordfighter. Shuriken, Gale Stab, Stone Scabbard, Power Thrust. You will run into some of the same things ridley struggles with but I find 2213 MiiSF edges out with more options against that pressure. Good luck.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว

      He was on the latest poll (lost to Dr. Mario though). Looking forward to trying him out someday.

  • @keeshuunedited5678
    @keeshuunedited5678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Meta Knight. He was the character I wanted in Smash the most all the way back in Melee. He used to be one of my worst characters, now he's one of my best. He's just so unique!
    All that said, it took me a long time to realize why top level players don't use him much:
    - Too much effort for what you get out of him. Important for not draining your mental stamina in long tournaments. There are other characters that can do what he does more consistently, easily, and in some cases even better. One of my favorite matchups in Smash is Meta Knight vs Pikachu. They both have a lot in common. Lots of disjoints, tiny, fast, absurd recoveries, up air combos, randomly extremely powerful options and they both want to get early KOs off-stage. Though Pikachu just feels like a character that can adapt to new situations better, and t-jolt lets him more easily force things. I might be a bit biased though, since the best player I know moves like ESAM with Pikachu, and I might also be going "Pikachu is mr potential" with the little bit of time I've put into Pikachu out of curiosity.
    - Primary game plan is rather linear. In general you can overwhelm most people with Meta Knight's speed an disjoints, but going up against the best of the best that I can attack, it feels like you're kinda getting stuck into bait & punish strats where the opponent is dictating the pace of the match the whole time. I just woke up so it's kinda hard for me to describe that despite him having all the traditional qualities of a top tier, his kit just doesn't work well enough together like other characters do, and I feel like he's the only character like that off the top of my head in the roster.
    Still going to use the heck out of Meta Knight though because he is so fun to play, and everyone tells me that they love fighting my Meta Knight. Just the existence of dimensional cape adds an extra mental stack on the opponent sorta like having Samus's fully charged charge shot available at any moment the second the opponent forgets about the move, and I get addicted to characters that have a way to induce some sort of "fear" or things for the opponent to be cautious of.
    Also there are some matchups that just feel absurdly easy with Meta Knight ,even though when I look at matchup charts he's pretty even across the board.

  • @dirt_dert_durt
    @dirt_dert_durt ปีที่แล้ว

    Increasing character awareness is an excellent service, especially in a fighting game with as huge a cast as Smash. I'd personally like to see you take on more Heavies

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heavies are going to be very interesting to play since I'll probably do well with them given that they are easier to pick up compared to the average character.

  • @zora2532
    @zora2532 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TH-cam is trying to tell us something

  • @9Skrate
    @9Skrate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha GGs Tuesday, those sets were so great... Looks like I got a new rival

  • @Vermillion808
    @Vermillion808 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MK has
    - maybe the strongest disadvantage state in the game
    - practically ZERO LAG
    - large combo tree
    - good ledge game
    His problem is his super linear neutral that he's forced to stay in and his lack of any real range (except for d-tilt) and his main moves being only active for 1-2 frames.
    He's part of the Counterpick meta due to him actually countering meta relevant chars.

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strongest disadvantage state, best recovery in the game. Your right on the rest of them.

    • @Vermillion808
      @Vermillion808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aidenawe9359 he does not have the best recovery in the game, that would be pika as he is protected 100% with high priority large hotboxes and doesn't need to expend his jump offstage to get back to ledge.

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vermillion808 what about Pichu? Meta Knight is one of the best recovery in the game. I forgot about Pikachu.

  • @jmcalcy69
    @jmcalcy69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MK was the first character I ever played when Brawl, my first smash game, came out

  • @trongtran8951
    @trongtran8951 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:15 using this stage as green screen. Smart lol.

  • @Sh1v3rIZAE
    @Sh1v3rIZAE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think people just outright forget that Meta Knight has 6 jumps, a frame 2 airdodge, a teleport move with only 18 frames of endlag (which can finish in the air mind you.) A frame 10 move that can be used to evade most of the cast online, even if you don't hit them with the move, and a frame 4 dair that's spammable with a frame 6 dair that's also spammable depending on where you go to camp. Then of course he can always use side b to reverse condor someone for trying to edgeguard him recklessly as a callout.
    The issue with most Meta Knight players competitively is they play him like he's Fox, he's not. He's far from it. You got all sorts of Luigi players camping, you got Kazuyas sitting in the corner like they just dealt with an abusive parent, and Falcos doing everything but playing the game, and Lucario players quite literally doing everything but playing the game, but then the MOMENT it's Meta Knight's time to play defensively it's like every notable Meta Knight player just shuts their brain off and goes full QP Bowser mode. With all due respect, western Meta Knights especially, even Bonk! seem to be autistically obsessed with just hitting dash attack into bridge/ladder, then just seem to shrug their shoulders once they inevitably drop the combo during a game. Not to say it's all they do in neutral, and I get why they go for bridges/ladders (aggressively speaking bridges and ladders is all Meta Knight has outside of maybe edgeguarding) but they definitely seem to play the game like they're trying to clip some random 7 year old on QP.
    The reason why I'm suggesting playing lame here sometimes is because some MUs he just can't win unless the opponent just randomly chooses to be bad. Meta Knight, when played defensively, perfectly, could in my opinion be THE BEST character in the game. Sure, we have other Multi-Jump characters with higher air speed, but it doesn't matter as they don't have the other options that MK has. Once Jigglypuff burns all of her jumps, she becomes very predictable, and her being so light makes her explode for making a single mistake, and the floatiness ironically makes her easier to hit sometimes because she can't rely on camping in the same spots MK can. Pit, while I think his camping can be really good, is a sitting duck once his "Stay back" breaks. Ridley and DeDeDe are just way too fat to work obviously. And Banjo can camp, but it's more on the zoning side and even then it's adaptable.
    Sure Meta Knight is a fastfaller, but he also has the best recovery game in the game, especially for camping. Every character in the game has places they just outright can't hit, Meta Knight can abuse this by "blindspotting" the opponent. For example, Min Min is REALLY annoying to fight until you just stay in the air on Kalos. Sure, Fox is fast, but his range is non-existent. Sure, the Belmonts are very annoying to fight, until you realize they have very linear attacks. On top of that hitting the ground faster is ironically a good thing, as it leads into more jumps (6 of his jumps burn 7 seconds each time he does it.) Then you of course never know if he's going to land normally, land with a FFAD, or simply spam DC to get out of the way. If the MK is crazy they could go for Mach in neutral
    Meta Knight players just seem to be completely throwing this out of the window while other character mains for the most part don't give a damn about how people see how they play (Look at Sonic and Samus players,) I just don't get it.

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has 5 jumps

  • @helm8830
    @helm8830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid loved it

  • @danielhansen9011
    @danielhansen9011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss his brawl iteration

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว

      If every character was as broken as Meta Knight in Brawl it would have made for a very cool and degenerate game.

  • @jamielikesbread
    @jamielikesbread 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the irony of entering another tournament to get your revenge as META KNIGHT is honestly what makes this video for me

  • @willemgloudemans1442
    @willemgloudemans1442 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling your voice sounds different in this compared to other videos? Were you using a different set-up?
    edit: this isn't meant as a judgement, I just noticed

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was using a different setup and I was recovering from a cold

  • @kinzietheostrichman
    @kinzietheostrichman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really think that eventually MK will just be better luigi

  • @nameme270
    @nameme270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yo can you please try ice climbers next

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Once they're chosen on my poll I will!

  • @tarded_4
    @tarded_4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hold up, I just realized Only of Tuesdays only uploads on tuesdays!

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the gimmick haha now you know when to watch my channel

    • @tarded_4
      @tarded_4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s nice to know

  • @stun7884
    @stun7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, did the mouth always move? If it did then thats wild

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's new as of this video. Do you think it's a good change?

    • @stun7884
      @stun7884 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TuesdayTastic yeah, I think it looks really cool. It's the little things like that that makes me see how your content gets better with every episode

  • @RNGuice
    @RNGuice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you like meta knight then you might like Kazuya

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've already made a video about Kazuya actually! He was really hard to learn at first but if I'm being honest he's become one of my most played characters since making the video.

  • @俺は誰でもない
    @俺は誰でもない 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly meta knight suffers from being over nerfed because of brawl

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbf he deserved it lol

  • @EeweepPickle-pg7gl
    @EeweepPickle-pg7gl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Abadongo got 5th at smash factor 8 with mk

  • @thunderd7904
    @thunderd7904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I make a tiny suggestion? It looks really weird when your guy opens his mouth. I’d just leave it in its normal position when you’re talking when it’s on screen

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to get the opinion of more people before making a decision.

  • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
    @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope ultimate manages to persist. There’s still so much more to explore with the characters.
    Also… why are we calling Leo the best ultimate player of all time? This game hasn’t been out nearly long enough for that title to mean anything.

    • @blank_ivysaur
      @blank_ivysaur ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he went 2 years without placing under 2nd at an event. No one will ever match that in ult’s lifespan

    • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
      @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blank_ivysaur Huh. So are there smashers from earlier games with that kind of record?

    • @blank_ivysaur
      @blank_ivysaur ปีที่แล้ว

      @@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 zer0 back in smash 4 went about 2 years without placing lower than 2nd and holds the longest win streak of anyone in history at 56 events.

  • @turt4046
    @turt4046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should try robin next, gotta be one of the most underrated characters in competitive

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a friend who mains Robin and is consistently getting top 8 at our locals. Robin is lowkey really good.

    • @turt4046
      @turt4046 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's nice to have someone to learn from whenever you do end up playing robin. Il be sure to vote for him on the poll.

  • @rpepero4774
    @rpepero4774 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sorry but this isn't very accurate. his neutral is what holds him back, and it isn't very tricky. he's very linear in neutral, and it holds him back in many cases. His back air isn't as strong as you make it out to be, and you're overhyping dimensional cape way too much.

  • @georgelongcoal1117
    @georgelongcoal1117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great!