I asked my nephew what he wanted to be when he grew up He said he wanted to play video games all day for a living I showed him these videos Now he wants to work in sewer maintenance
I hear this argument made all the time in fighting games, too. Arguments about how top tier characters are unfair because they need to use fewer buttons to accomplish the same thing as lower tier characters. About how mindless offense is much easier to learn and apply than precise defense. Thing is, when you hit the tippy top of play in these games all of that difficult stuff should be muscle memory. Once you've mastered your execution, and you don't have to struggle with remembering what to do when, the playing field gets a lot more even. I think Arty just needs a little more time to master his race so he can stop making all of these 'little mistakes' that cost him so many games. Let's give him another twenty years to practice and then see where he's at.
24 likes cause people can't face the obvious. Your argument is dumb. You're saying if you aren't the fucking savant then it's ok. The protoss literally has to click 3 buttons to a terrans 50 clicks. It's like one guy has to master nun chucks in a life and death battle while another guy gets the sword.. Sure the kung fu master savant with the nun chunks can win, but it's an unfair fight for 90 percent of everyone else.. Let's face reality with this SC religion fucking bullshit.. the game balance is wack
Yeah, that's crazy. For Protoss, you just pick an Arbiter, shift-click to direct it to the Terran expansion or production, and press TP. For Terran, you have to waste 2,000 minerals on at least 20 turrets to cover your side of the map (and even that won’t be enough because of the Arbiter's HP). Then, you constantly have to mine your entire territory with Spider Mines without breaking your macro, main army positioning, or forgetting that you need defensive groups. These groups can’t just react immediately (because it’ll already be too late) but must act in advance, meaning you’d better have a few floating buildings in the right spots. And even after all that, the Arbiter arrives, part of the group dies to mines, but the leftovers are still enough to cause havoc and kill workers anyway. It’s really stupid and unfair. Period.
Yeah, I do look at this game and say "this is fine". P had 3/4 of the map, thus the resources for endless Recalls and Arbiters. They could trade small armies to kill bases. Late game TvP needs to divide the map in half, but you see that P had the bases at the top left. Those were supposed to be Artosis' bases! He's trying to fight a micro-war when he lost at the macro stage!
Why Artosis always calls out suicide armies going to take out pieces of his, they have more resources due to expansion so it's normal that the enemy units are way more expandable than his
It's called "trading" as well. Trading a small P army to destroy a CC, some workers and buildings is a great trade. Everything he's talking about is really just a P who got ahead because he let them have 3/4 of the map and he's trying to figth against that in vain.
@@HaloDude557 you could just as easily whine about how T mech units are easy mode and don't require skill because they're so strong. Attacking expansions is exactly what T and P need to do.
@@harizotoh7 mech units are counterable. They're fat, awkward, immobile, killable, and require micro. Zerg have lightning fast killing machine mutalisk death balls and invincibility fart clouds. Protoss have the tankiest units in the game with some of the best, most ridiculously unfair, abilities, that are very difficult to counter.
@@HaloDude557 Terran has the best scaling and most powerful army, BY FAR the best upgrades in the game with how mech weapon upgrades scale. Spider mines (cost one upgrade and every vult gets 3) are crazy strong, vultures are the best mineral only unit with a super low build time and high microability. Liftable buildings, repair ability, scan, EMP takes out caster energy + vsP does thousands of shield damage to armies... Terran has plenty of good abilities.
He doesn't have the macro and microtrasking skills to handle more than a 3-4 base economy. His window to win is when the game is at that stage. The later the game goes, the more he falls behind in resources.
Lmao look at what he does tho! Artosis literally takes his army and completely over extends…attacking the P main at bottom right… Why ?! Why take ur army SO deep into P territory and go for their main? You can get flanked by like three different bases!! Which is what happens of course. So what does Artosis do next? Instead of attacking bottom right, he goes all the way for bottom left this time… even further into P territory completely over extending once again.. and once again getting over run. So what does he do then ? He complains… and turtles. So the P does what Artosis should’ve done… he attacks his edge bases. Making artosis have to come out of his base to come to him. Which by then you can set up a counter attack or a flank or any number of traps…
and protoss can click one spell button and shoot off massive storms, or freeze 3/4ths your army in two clicks. Then you just A move your fucking units in. You think that's the same skill level as having to move fragile fucking units that have to be spread in perfect positions at all times while scanning, laying mines, macroing and building with inferior SCV capabilities that just can't warp shit in everywhere. Even if he played the game wrong, the points are still valid. You have to fucking do EVERYTHING perfect with terran at all times or you're fucked. There's no one click fucking spells that disable an entire army, there's no fucking A moving units everywhere.. YOu can't even play terran unless you have like a sick fucking 300 APM.
Man i do understand what he says, he is right too. But idk man. This game is really hard. Like D9 said person with less mistakes wins. And this game is all about the mistakes...
Honestly if he's mostly flaming because of the arbiters (in most tvp i've seen it is the case) then he should just build anti-air such as holiaths or wraiths more often. It's not even that hard. If i'm wrong, please, correct my opinion
yeah mistakes are up in pro games , 1 mistake may cost you the game . That even happens in SC2, but he turtles + siege tanks and let the enemy takes up like 5 bases THEN MOVES , at that point if he doesn't destroy all the production is kinda pointless to take out 1 base , because at that point he may recall his and its GG , and happens all the time , because all he does is defensive boring gameplay
The Toss he lost to had 1/3 more income than arty and the difference could be even more if game continiued. If arty lets enemy had 2/3 of the map than its pointless cause protoss attacks will be infinite, and eventually break through. If he had more bases,that means protoss would have less, which means protoss wont have money for so much arbiter.
As Protoss you dont just attack click. May be Arthosis do it like this with protoss but that is not how you win against A rank or S rank terrans. You want to kill vultures and then find a way to drop zealots with good health on tanks.
So he's been playing this game for 20 years now. Seems like he's not happy with the balance, but clearly that's not going to change on such an old game. Has he ever explained why he didn't switch to SC2, or some other game? Just seems like an unhealthy addiction to me. Or perhaps these rage compilations just provide a skewed perspective?
@minimoose5638 BW isn't more linear at all, it's far more dynamic. He doesn't like it because it's an easier game, which is why most of the top players didn't switch until they were forced to and why it basically died in Korea pretty quickly.
I commented about how shitty this guy was with his rage under a video. Someone went full on "You dont know how good he is" lol. I was SC2 Grandmaster at the time. So I made a broodwar account. Went straight to S, easy. I stay by my statement, what a raging baby.
I asked my nephew what he wanted to be when he grew up
He said he wanted to play video games all day for a living
I showed him these videos
Now he wants to work in sewer maintenance
Ha
I know that story is made up but it's funny anyway
"He outplayed you in the race selection phase of the game." :D
"if only things built when i told them to, the game would go so much better for me" -artosis
"oh, is that it?" -vulture
I just wanna say I recently discovered this channel and that I am very grateful for it
Wow, another video! I was thinking for a moment that you abandoned us
:)
"!i killed his army so many times"
9 base protoss vs sitting 4 base terran XD
Yes finaly a new vid. I had waited for what feels like forever.
Who knows? Maybe no protoss player get carpal tunnel because they don't spam clicks to boost their apm score.
I hear this argument made all the time in fighting games, too. Arguments about how top tier characters are unfair because they need to use fewer buttons to accomplish the same thing as lower tier characters. About how mindless offense is much easier to learn and apply than precise defense. Thing is, when you hit the tippy top of play in these games all of that difficult stuff should be muscle memory. Once you've mastered your execution, and you don't have to struggle with remembering what to do when, the playing field gets a lot more even. I think Arty just needs a little more time to master his race so he can stop making all of these 'little mistakes' that cost him so many games.
Let's give him another twenty years to practice and then see where he's at.
go ahead and donate him that message and see what he says xD
nah protoss op
24 likes cause people can't face the obvious. Your argument is dumb. You're saying if you aren't the fucking savant then it's ok. The protoss literally has to click 3 buttons to a terrans 50 clicks. It's like one guy has to master nun chucks in a life and death battle while another guy gets the sword.. Sure the kung fu master savant with the nun chunks can win, but it's an unfair fight for 90 percent of everyone else.. Let's face reality with this SC religion fucking bullshit.. the game balance is wack
Yeah, that's crazy.
For Protoss, you just pick an Arbiter, shift-click to direct it to the Terran expansion or production, and press TP.
For Terran, you have to waste 2,000 minerals on at least 20 turrets to cover your side of the map (and even that won’t be enough because of the Arbiter's HP). Then, you constantly have to mine your entire territory with Spider Mines without breaking your macro, main army positioning, or forgetting that you need defensive groups. These groups can’t just react immediately (because it’ll already be too late) but must act in advance, meaning you’d better have a few floating buildings in the right spots.
And even after all that, the Arbiter arrives, part of the group dies to mines, but the leftovers are still enough to cause havoc and kill workers anyway.
It’s really stupid and unfair. Period.
Ah yes my favorite
1/4th map artosis.
Damb if only terran had two spells that could lock or drain the arbiter in two clicks
Yeah, I do look at this game and say "this is fine". P had 3/4 of the map, thus the resources for endless Recalls and Arbiters. They could trade small armies to kill bases. Late game TvP needs to divide the map in half, but you see that P had the bases at the top left. Those were supposed to be Artosis' bases! He's trying to fight a micro-war when he lost at the macro stage!
Finally new episode I like it!
"He only builds gateway units"
Funny how he himself 3/4ths of the time goes vulture+siege tank....
I miss you man, thx for the RT videos
Why Artosis always calls out suicide armies going to take out pieces of his, they have more resources due to expansion so it's normal that the enemy units are way more expandable than his
It's called "trading" as well. Trading a small P army to destroy a CC, some workers and buildings is a great trade. Everything he's talking about is really just a P who got ahead because he let them have 3/4 of the map and he's trying to figth against that in vain.
His problem isn't trading, its the lack of difficulty involved in right clicking and afking
@@HaloDude557 you could just as easily whine about how T mech units are easy mode and don't require skill because they're so strong. Attacking expansions is exactly what T and P need to do.
@@harizotoh7 mech units are counterable. They're fat, awkward, immobile, killable, and require micro. Zerg have lightning fast killing machine mutalisk death balls and invincibility fart clouds. Protoss have the tankiest units in the game with some of the best, most ridiculously unfair, abilities, that are very difficult to counter.
@@HaloDude557 Terran has the best scaling and most powerful army, BY FAR the best upgrades in the game with how mech weapon upgrades scale. Spider mines (cost one upgrade and every vult gets 3) are crazy strong, vultures are the best mineral only unit with a super low build time and high microability. Liftable buildings, repair ability, scan, EMP takes out caster energy + vsP does thousands of shield damage to armies... Terran has plenty of good abilities.
The funniest thing is that Garbagetosis plays terran, the easiest most afk race for freewins. What a guy :)
the return of the king
I love these videos!
Why is he ALWAYS behind in resources in every game, even when he wins? It's interesting and i don't get why.
He doesn't have the macro and microtrasking skills to handle more than a 3-4 base economy. His window to win is when the game is at that stage. The later the game goes, the more he falls behind in resources.
@@harizotoh7 Nope, hurr durr protos and zerg op, and TvT is the worst match up
Chat, get down 😂
Having 50000 more minerals mined then ur enemy is such a HUGE gap.. no wonder noobtosis got his cheeks busted like he did.
...artosis, you've never won a tournament. you have a 37% WR in BW. your mindset is too toxic to improve. nothing is EVER your fault.
So bad and still higher ranked than you
he cant have a 37% wr he would not maintain his rank
That one dislike is from the protoss player that disagrees with the APM.
new clips wohoooooooooooooooooooo
BuT A tErRAn aLsO WOn a TouRNaMenT ArTOsIs
"I've won tournaments as well"
Genuinely curious, which tournaments has Artosis won? I assume they must have been smaller regional stuff?
Hearthstone Invitational , a decade ago.
Lmao look at what he does tho! Artosis literally takes his army and completely over extends…attacking the P main at bottom right…
Why ?! Why take ur army SO deep into P territory and go for their main? You can get flanked by like three different bases!! Which is what happens of course. So what does Artosis do next? Instead of attacking bottom right, he goes all the way for bottom left this time… even further into P territory completely over extending once again.. and once again getting over run.
So what does he do then ? He complains… and turtles. So the P does what Artosis should’ve done… he attacks his edge bases. Making artosis have to come out of his base to come to him. Which by then you can set up a counter attack or a flank or any number of traps…
and protoss can click one spell button and shoot off massive storms, or freeze 3/4ths your army in two clicks. Then you just A move your fucking units in. You think that's the same skill level as having to move fragile fucking units that have to be spread in perfect positions at all times while scanning, laying mines, macroing and building with inferior SCV capabilities that just can't warp shit in everywhere. Even if he played the game wrong, the points are still valid. You have to fucking do EVERYTHING perfect with terran at all times or you're fucked. There's no one click fucking spells that disable an entire army, there's no fucking A moving units everywhere.. YOu can't even play terran unless you have like a sick fucking 300 APM.
He’s just not as skilled as he believes
@@tytar1037 im sure he's better than you
Man i do understand what he says, he is right too. But idk man. This game is really hard. Like D9 said person with less mistakes wins. And this game is all about the mistakes...
Honestly if he's mostly flaming because of the arbiters (in most tvp i've seen it is the case) then he should just build anti-air such as holiaths or wraiths more often. It's not even that hard. If i'm wrong, please, correct my opinion
He let P take 3/4 of the map and then is complaining they have so many resources for Recalls and Arbiters. It's his fault.
yeah mistakes are up in pro games , 1 mistake may cost you the game . That even happens in SC2, but he turtles + siege tanks and let the enemy takes up like 5 bases THEN MOVES , at that point if he doesn't destroy all the production is kinda pointless to take out 1 base , because at that point he may recall his and its GG , and happens all the time , because all he does is defensive boring gameplay
The Toss he lost to had 1/3 more income than arty and the difference could be even more if game continiued. If arty lets enemy had 2/3 of the map than its pointless cause protoss attacks will be infinite, and eventually break through.
If he had more bases,that means protoss would have less, which means protoss wont have money for so much arbiter.
LipAPM @ full power
Fucking dance all day!
One time I said fartosis in chat and got banned.
Anyone else want to share their story of how artosis banned them?
4:54 gives complement to zergplayers
Well he did beat you Artosis, or are you saying beating Artosis takes no skill?
Beating Artosis takes no skill
As Protoss you dont just attack click. May be Arthosis do it like this with protoss but that is not how you win against A rank or S rank terrans. You want to kill vultures and then find a way to drop zealots with good health on tanks.
I don't get his nutjob. What else do protoss build? Carriers? Mass reaver? Of course they go gateway almost exclusively.
The answer is 1a2a3a
Those voices kek
So he's been playing this game for 20 years now. Seems like he's not happy with the balance, but clearly that's not going to change on such an old game. Has he ever explained why he didn't switch to SC2, or some other game? Just seems like an unhealthy addiction to me. Or perhaps these rage compilations just provide a skewed perspective?
@minimoose5638 BW isn't more linear at all, it's far more dynamic. He doesn't like it because it's an easier game, which is why most of the top players didn't switch until they were forced to and why it basically died in Korea pretty quickly.
@@bbydykdyl7779 delusional
You’re just not as skilled as you think you are. Terran has an edge over Protoss at the pro level
why he keeps playing an unbalanced and over 20 years old game? rofl
I commented about how shitty this guy was with his rage under a video. Someone went full on "You dont know how good he is" lol. I was SC2 Grandmaster at the time. So I made a broodwar account. Went straight to S, easy. I stay by my statement, what a raging baby.