Tying The Grey Ghost with Kelly Galloup.
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- The Grey Ghost was first tied in 1924 by commercial fly tyer Carrie G. Stevens of Madison, Maine. Carrie tied many other flies in the Rangeley style during her free time, and many of her patterns featured a cheek of jungle cock. One of the most famous streamer patterns of all time, The Grey Ghost is still a popular choice as a baitfish imitation for trout and many other game fish.
Grey Ghost Recipe
Thread: Black Danville 210 - www.slideinn.com/product/danv...
Hook: Daiichi 2220 #2 - www.slideinn.com/product/daii...
Tag: Large Silver Tinsel - www.slideinn.com/product/utc-...
Body: Large Silver Tinsel and Red 4 Strand Floss - www.slideinn.com/product/danv...
Belly: White Bucktail - www.slideinn.com/product/natu...
Bottom Wing: Peacock Herl - www.slideinn.com/product/stru...
Throat: Golden Pheasant Crest - www.slideinn.com/product/gold...
Under Wing: Golden Pheasant Crest
Wing: Gray Hackle or Saddle Feathers - www.slideinn.com/product/whit...
Shoulder: Silver Pheasant - www.slideinn.com/product/silv...
Cheek: Jungle Cock
Head: Black Thread (Red Band of thread or Red Lacquer) - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Kelly, I loved watching you tie this traditional Carrie Stevens pattern. Very cool!
Again, thank you. I really appreciate the look back. I grew old before I understood my dad: "If you want a new idea, read an old book."
That is a great quote, KG
Always the best. Thanks for posting.
Kelly PLEASE keep up the good fight -- you are an excellent teacher of the flies. Thanks. I just ordered Carrie's book for my library.
Hi Kelly
One of the golden rules I never break when tying streamers is never tie the wing past the end of the hook more than the gap of the hook. Doing this ensures the wing never fouls. That's why Carrie had custom hooks made.
In saying that I can't tie wings her way I still tie wing materials in one at a time.
Keep this information coming the content is worth your time.
I love the stories and information about the flies. The instruction is incredible also.
I love these lessons! Thank you for sharing your passion and extraordinary experience in this craft! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Nice! Great tie, excellent perspective and the historical content refreshing. Well done.
Thanks Kelly - been tinkering with these since Christmas and finally think I’ve got them right! Appreciate the detail.
Super underrated, casts like a knife sinks like a rock, and a little beat up and it becomes magic
Thank you for this killer tying tutorial and history lesson Kelly! I live in Maine and have been learning to fish the Rangeley region for about 10 years now, which is obviously just scratching the surface. I have been fascinated with Carrie Stevens as well but your clear love of Graydon Hilyard's book inspired me to purchase it immediately upon watching this video. I have been absolutely enthralled by the book and I could not possibly agree more with your high praise for it. I've tied my first few Steven's style Grey Ghost's with the help of the book and tutorial, thank you and keep up the good work! Sidenote to anyone around the Rangeley area, you MUST visit the Outdoor Heritage Museum in Oquossoc, tons of Carrie's gear and countless flies from her and other regional tiers, it's honestly incredible.
That is one sexy fly. My favorite vid to date. A real insider history lesson. Like you said - down here in NZ the Grey Ghost is so bastardized there's nearly no similarities anymore! Thanks lads.
mr. Galloup, i love your you tube cannels Theslideinn and mad river outfitters GREAT !
Hey Kelly, great video as usual. Any chance that you might do a short follow up video, that shows how you built the feather sets for this?
That book is certainly one of my favorites. It brings together the life of the woman who's flies I was tying before I knew anything about her. There are even some notes about the fly I believe was the catalyst for the evolution of the Thunder Creek Series of streamers. Carrie's "reverse-tied bucktails" are shown on pgs 106-107. I can't agree more about her being a wonderful innovator of the time. Joseph D. Bates Jr. eludes to many many of her patterns developed in the Rangeley Lakes area of Maine in his book Streamer FLY TYING & FISHING .... the 1st book I got that was dedicated to the subject. Carrie Stevens even developed the Colonel Bates streamer which you can see on pages 130-131 of Hilyard's book on Carrie. Picture of Col. Bates on pg.71 circa. 1945. The history of Streamers is quite fascinating. Two of my other favorite streamers are the Nine-Three, and Black Ghost. I could type all day about this subject, but I think I'll leave it at that. Btw ... look in this book for the real hooks that Carrie used to make her streamers .... they are not the big "irons" touted by Partridge, although the 10X "Carrie Stevens" hooks by Partridge are great for trolling ... you would not want to try and cast one with a conventional fly rod ~8^). I have them in 4s-2s & 2/0. The closest hooks to hers that I could find, were 8X Gaelic Supreme hooks by Mike Martinek. I don't know if they are still being made ... I got them over 20 years ago.Take care.
A lot of the most memorable trout I caught in my youth, was caught on the Grey Ghost and the Mickey Finn, I still have that 8' 5wt. Fenwick that I got when I was 10 years old. I have tied a few and I should tie it more often. It's been a couple of decades since I last tied one. I never knew that she would pre-built the wings. I have to find some instruction on how that is done. Mine that I tied looked chewed on after a fish or two.
Great fly , reminds me of my days in the late fifties smelting at night with my grand farther on Lake Michigan :-)
Wow! There's someone older that Kelly out there!
kurzhaarguy , I know it's hard to believe , it's a dirty job but somebody has to do it 😈
Such a beauty! Nicely blended colors. I'm with you on not using JC substitute, who would want to slap plastic onto these natural pieces of art? It's just dead in the water. I see you're not folding a lot, I guess that makes sense if you're gluing - like with those wings. Personally after many years of tying salmon tube flies, I'm reversing-folding almost every piece of feather or fur to lock it in. JC especially. Even on small dries! Thanks again.
Love your work, if you could show how to make those wings would be appreciated.
i cant help but feel an ostrich herl or frayed piece of yellow floss would be a good substitute to fighting that golden pheasant feather running down the middle of the fly if it just has to look good to a fish. obviously not how it was -originally- tied but probably an easy way to acquire a near identical effect with a much easier material to work with.
I'd like to see how you built up the wing prior to tie in- maybe I missed that section.
Mark, We pre made the wing sets to save some time on this video. If you want to see a very similar but not the same wing built, and the steps for it check out th-cam.com/video/KE_v5kfHmL8/w-d-xo.html right around 5 minutes in is where he starts building the wing.
I don’t know if you have talked about tying egg flies, but if you haven’t can you do a video on them because I know there is a ton of different ways to tie them.
Rangeley style, interesting. There's another way that I like to make up a fly of this size though, and maybe it might work in pocket waters in streams and rivers, a little better than the single large hook for trolling in lakes etc. Although, I can appreciate how the large 11X hook has it's application for trolling. What I like to do lately, is use one of those Blane Chocklett articulated shank components. Just a single short one of those to create the front head section of my fly. I use something like 'point three', or 'point four' millimeter spiderweb (eight strand stuff used in spinning reels), which is passed through an aluminium or plastic tube length, and is lashed to a small single hook to the rear.
What I do is I use a doubled up length of monofilament, threaded from one side through my small length of aluminium tube. That creates a loop of monofilament, into which one inserts a doubled up piece of spiderweb spinning reel line. Then you just use the monofilament loop to pull the spiderweb through the aluminium tube part. What you end up with then is a 'loop' of spiderweb going through the aluminium tube, with the single hook at the rear. You can 'hook' this loop of spiderweb onto the end of one of Blane Chocklett's small stainless steel shank lengths, and proceed to dress the small stainless steel shank, to make the front part of the fly.
You can end up with a front part of the fly, dressed on the single Blane Chocklett stainless steel shank. Which is interlocked with the 'loop' of Spiderweb, which in turn passes through the aluminium tube, which in turn is lashed onto a single hook at the rear.
You end up with a fly that is front part, stainless steel shank. With an articulation in it's center thanks to the loop of spiderweb that is connected interlocking with the rear loop of Blane Chocklett's stainless steel shank. And then there's a dressed 'tube' element to the rear. Finishing with the single barbless hooks that I use to the rear.
What you're getting with this set up, is something similar in size and shape to the Rangeley flies, which I have to say look great as trolling flies. But what I'm presenting is an adaptation of that Rangeley style of trolling fly. Something that is more adaptable to the smaller river and stream, where one is trying to use something like a weighted tube, to plummet down fast into deep pockets of fish holding water. What I find with the 'tube' element to the rear, is that it's free to rotate around the 'axis' of the fly. Whereas the Blane Chocklett single shank length at the front, doesn't possess that rolling motion that the rear part of the fly has. The shank part follows a more conventional wet fly type of action, and is connected to the leader just as the eye of any normal wet fly would do.
What can be interesting though, in this style of fly, is to tie it 'back to front'. My patterns made in this way, were intended to operate a bit like a shrimp or prawn saltwater fly pattern. Where the wiskers and things are allowed to extend far from the rear of the fly (in effect, covering over where the single hook happens to be). I.e. In those prawn or shrimp patterns, the fly designers tried to introduce those 'target eyes' at the rear of the fly pattern, rather than at the front.
What a great fly. I can see how when it's wet and narrows down how it would be a great minnow pattern with the head giving it stability. Jungle cock is expensive though (as you've said). And I can't help wondering why you don't have a fly called "jungle cock" by the way. ha. By the way, these videos certainly get me interested in your quality materials and you taking the time to share them when I'm sure you get paid to do appearances. You sharing your tying skills and insight is appreciated.
Great fly as usual, I tied a couple yesterday. Question is what type of adhesive do you use when you glue the jungle cock, silver pheasant and hackle together? Just curious as I'll be putting a few more together tomorrow. Thanks mucho.
We use Tear Mender for the glue when we are stacking feathers like that, here is a link to check it out! Thanks for watching as well!!!
www.slideinn.com/product/tear-mender-waterproof-adhesive/
What di you use for glue on the wingset?
Hey Barney, Kelly uses Tear Mender for the sing sets.
Thanks
Tear mender
How about tieing some Pike fly 😋
This pattern is a great pike/musky fly.
Carrie was a milliner by trade; fly tying came along after she had experience making women's hats. Many of the tricks she learned from that went into her streamer flies, so her techniques were probably more skilled than the average at the time.
One comment: if you fish that fly for landlocked salmon in New England, the fish will short strike and chew the end off the fly without getting hooked. The hook needs to be longer, or the wings/trimmings shorter to just beyond the end of the hook. Just saying.
Says "traditional" 50 times > cuts thread with a set of Fiskars ... hahaha. That was funny
Hi Kelly. I don't buy in to leaving the red band out. If She put it there I'll bet my vice she felt it added to the fly. I tie a band in if the fly comes out nice. Out of respect to The Lady.
Good point
Ummm that looks nothing like batman...
Way too much talking. Jesus, 10 minutes in and still talking- no fly tying
Hint, fast forward. Kelly