@@ellamiller6889right? After all her controversy recently about the mascara, the falsies, everyone side-eyeing her and now he wants to trust her with 10k?! I do feel bad for him, this was unfair as hell of her, but her reputation precedes her. I wouldn’t do business with someone like that, especially not 10k’s worth
Yeah I feel bad for him that he took out that loan but also... you shouldn't have done that. I definitely see how the decision happens but it was a bad decision.
It’s definitely not Mikayla’s fault he took the loan, but it’s a huge problem that she kept promising to review it and even lied about using it. Like if she was gonna refuse to use/review it, why not just not promise too!?!? It would have been so easy to not do that.
@@cherrybomber69 since he didn’t tell her about the loan before doing it, I don’t think that’s the case, but I’m not a lawyer so idk. I don’t think she can be found liable for him taking an action she was completely unaware of
I disagree that it’s not her fault. She made a whole point in a video about small businesses not being able to handle the influx of orders that come from her reviews and then promised, with an actual timeline (saying that she would do it the next day) to do the review. He merely acted on her words and advice, assuming she was good to her word.
As someone from Boston (born and raised) the iconic “Boston accent” is almost died out. The only time I hear it nowadays is when people are playing it up and it’s so annoying. I also just don’t understand her getting bullied for a Boston accent in mass to the point she had to hide it until a certain time and then all of a sudden she doesn’t care. Idk she’s just an ick in human form for me
I’m confused cause she grew up in Boston so the people around her also had some type of “Boston accent” why would they bully her when they sound the same
To play Devil’s Advocate for a second: it’s not Mikayla’s fault the guy jumped the gun and ordered $10K worth of products before getting a clear answer from her. 🤷🏻♀️ That being said, Mikayla did say she would review it, and she just kept putting it off because in my opinion, she only does reviews of things she’s getting paid for. 💁🏻♀️
I agree with this take. They both made poor choices but you can't rely on anyone else especially in the social media world on word when there's no contracts or offical agreements in place. It sucks for him but she doesn't owe anyone anything.
I mean given her past that she has sold out products from her reviews and the product is proven to be good, he predicted that he would sell out and brought more for her review. The obvious reason she wasn't reviewing the product, was because she wasn't being paid, it's known she is a money hungry influencer (only cares about money) and barely reviews products without some coin involved, she always gets paid for reviews and doesn't disclose it, so do many on tiktok. Unpaid reviews are the ones I want personally... becuase the chances are they are going to be an honest review. the probable reason she doesnt do indie brands is because they dont pay so good or expect a free review... i dont trust her opinion one bit
I think if she had done the review and he didn't get the sales he'd hoped for, that would have been on him for the debt. But I think considering the influence Makayla has had, selling products out nationwide, it was a reasonable choice to prepare for that since she gave written confirmation she was going to do a review multiple times.
also if she had done the review and he hadn’t gotten the extra stock, he could’ve been unprepared for the possible influx which could’ve had other negative effects on business. I think it was kinda flipping a coin atp and he chose the option he felt was best given the info/situation
The fact she even reassured him that “at least he would ah e the product” for when she finally did the review and still didn’t do it. That’s what confirmed to me this was on her.
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I don’t think it’s her fault that he initially took the loan out on 10k products, BUT I do think, after being told that, it’s pretty evil of her to keep dancing around doing it considering she actually KNEW how much he needed the help after he told her how stressed he was.
The texts definitely show how flakey she was with him. All she has to do is be honest. She has no preceeding reputation to protect by saying she doesn't want to review it when she ruined that ages ago with lashgate. ONTOP of that she once again lied about using a sponsored product. She is not professional and plays her audience constantly for a bag. It amazes me she still has supporters after a consistently using her audience for money, complaining and then not apologising when she screws over people. 🙄🙄🙄
Tbh I get where everyone is coming from saying that it's his fault for buying the extra stock, but imagine it more this way-- prepping for a video like that is similar to prepping for an event, you have to have stock specifically for that event outside of standard stock. If suddenly the event that is planned for gets canceled or just randomly doesn't happen, that ultimately fucks over the business. I have known many businesses that have lost out due to stuff like that, esp artists.
Exactly, I'm not really sure how it's fair to say that she's wrong for breaking a promise, but not acknowledge that part of why that's wrong is that a promise comes with planning and consequences if it's broken... The consequences for him was having spent way too much on stock. Business spending is always a risk, but that doesn't mean that a lack of ethics contributing to a loss isn't worth pointing out.
Also, among her many response videos, she's stated multiple times, in reply to others asking why she hasn't promoted small businesses lately, that she doesn't do them on the whimsy anymore because she knows her impact and that she doesn't want to overwhelm a small business with sales that they can't fulfill/aren't ready to handle. It was a poor decision on his part, but it goes hand-in-hand with the unspoken 'code of ethics' these influencers and businesses are supposed to practice in these scenarios. Mikayla continuously assuring him she'd do it, also with the impression that she'd like it, is what gave him the cue to prepare himself, and he did. He pounced on the decision thinking that someone as established and supposedly professional would understand the 'unspoken rules' and how valuable they are to practice when you consider the consequence for the business.
And then when businesses DON'T have enough stock everyone gets mad at asks "why didn't they order extra when they knew so and so was reviewing them" so unfortunately it feels like small businesses can't win either way. She never should have lied to him and been honest from the beginning. I don't get why people STILL defend her
yeah it was his decision to buy the stock but once mikayla knew about it, after she had already been leading him on for months, if she was a decent person she would have done the review. she kept on playing games even after he told her how much money he put into it which imo reveals exactly what kind of person she is. it was a smart decision on his part imo. he outplayed her.
On the $10,000 issue. As a small business owner/artist. Also I understand why he did it. Honestly we got burned a lot before I finally got a spine and stopped trying to be likeable. Also if it’s been months since you’ve gotten a review definitely wouldn’t be putting any stock behind her words. However Mikel’s is in the wrong for constantly assuring him then just not doing it. But I didn’t even know about Mykeala before lashgate. IMO they both made bad choices and in the end I kinda want to try his tanner and I barely wear makeup. Also Adam stay strong I e been following you for awhile and love your content. You usually present facts/pros/cons and overall engaging content. Thank you
I feel like you did such a good job analyzing this situation. You had me cracking up and saw all the angles being played here. Obviously she is not a mentally well individual and compulsively lies (with a fake accent that could peel the paint off of walls)...But he made his choice to invest without any guarantee other than a promise from a stranger.
Do these small businesses not write up contracts? I couldn't imagine just trusting a random influencer's word to mention my product, much less not spelling out the terms of the review deal.
I had to block her from my tiktok. It’s just infomercials at this point, ad after ad. Then I go to the comments and people have issues with the products she’s even lying about
A point for me is that he could have waited until she posted the review and THEN take out the loan if it's deposited within 24 hrs. Mikayla said she was posting her review the next day.. he could have waited until she posted it since it sounds like it was only delayed a day if mikayla stuck to her word
Right!! Especially after she told him several times before that she would post and didn’t…What changed this time to trust her and take the loan out immediately?? I feel like this is all drummed up to get those sales. To get the product shipped to him may still take time. It’s not like he can run up to the store and get immediate product ready to sell/ship to a customer. The quickness of the loan was a poor snap decision.
The 10k was a logical business decision. When you are planning a marketing campaign (or any other event) you’re going to spend money to be prepared for incoming orders. You have to project an order # and then prep your manufacturer for that. Not doing that would be insane. When people drop out of projects/collaborations it sucks and it’s scummy imo. I was planning an event for the company I work for with an influencer and they dropped out after I had order a bunch of materials for that event. I wouldn’t say they owe me money for those materials (because they didn’t borrow money from me) but I would totally say they’re the reason I lost that money. No, they didn’t tell me to spend money on materials directly, but we were planning an event together that they knew I had to prep for.
I agree with you on the business decision. Plus it's not like he *lost* money - it's stock he has available for sale now. While I think what Makayla did was pretty crappy and unethical, unless they had a signed agreement it's not really her responsibility if another business makes the choice to invest in their product. Now its his job as a business owner to find other ways to market and clear the 10k of product.
It a complicated issue because I can see he is reaponsible for the loan but in the other hand Mikayka has stated before that she is hesitant reviewing smaller brands because they don't have enough product to handle the customers she's gonna send. So we have someone who hears what she's saying, she promises to a video and they're preparing ahead. If she's aware enough to know that the traffic will wipe out a small business's products (and make a public comment) she can't be utterly shocked that a small business would prepare in advance either. Really goes to show why contracts are important
@@30pumpkinsbro45 haha most of the time I wouldn’t say always cause he does sometimes say things I don’t agree with but was surprised on this one I agreed with him 😁❤️
To be honest (and a little conspiratorial), I don’t think he genuinely thinks Mikayla is in the wrong for not posting the video. He realized he made a bad decision by taking out the loan and needed to recoup the loss. Making this video was the only way to stir up attention and move product. Did you notice how he said his mom asked him if he had ever seen someone look orange after using his tanner? Sounds like advertising to me 😂 smart guy
I pointed that on under a tiktok! I had a crazy conspiracy that this was all intentional on both sides because at the moment, drama with Mikayla goes way more viral than a simple review. Highly doubt now it was all intentional but I think on his side he definitely knew stirring the drama would bring in those sales for that 10k loan with it being Mikayla drama 😂
I agree with you, Adam. It's common business sense to never take out a loan for something based on a verbal promise or agreement. He said himself it was a loan that came in 24 hours to his bank account. I don't think waiting one more day for the review to come out and to get the loan would've made a huge difference for distribution. I think he got excited, it's understandable as to why, but to blame taking out the loan preemptively on her is not entirely warranted in my opinion.
Crazy thing is, he’s acting like this and buying $10,000 worth of product BEFORE knowing if she even liked it. She could have hated it and he still would have made her out as the villain. He just wanted attention. He would of complained either way. As someone who tans every week and has tried every tanner on the market, Ill be avoiding his product.
I love how you have common sense!! Mikayla might not be a good person but he chose to take out the loan, 24 hours wasn’t going to hurt him to wait to see the amount of orders.. he’s out 10k bc he was impatient
I see a lot of people talking about how it's his fault for taking out the loan and blah blah blah. But no one mentions that he made a video saying he made the decision and it was 100% on him. He's providing details to the story. He never explicitly blamed Mikayla for him choosing to take out the loan. I took this more as him, letting people know how Mikayla was while also getting the exposure he was essentially promised with that review.
I agree with you Adam. If he could have gotten the loan so fast he could have waited another day or two to see the demand if she made the video. Also, just because she was possibly going to make a video about it, a smart person wouldn't take a financial risk on something like that. He made a bad bussiness decision unfortunately
But what if the review was bad? Is he implying that her review wasn’t going to be genuine? Also I can relate to telling people “oh yeah I’ll send it tomorrow” and forgetting but I have ADHD and a chronic illness so I need to stop saying yes to stuff anyway.
he’s a grown man who can make his own decisions. idc how much i hate mikayla, she didn’t force him to do anything. it’s a little annoying to see everyone telling him he has no fault in this.
Agreed, and since she already has such a bad reputation, it's easy to get sympathy and supporters no matter who's at fault because people will hate on those who are already hated
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I don’t think the 10k is her fault in the sense that she made the video abt indie brands but I think it is in the fact that she said she would make the video and didn’t and that led the 10k to being a waste, if she made the video and the promo flopped she would not be at fault at all
I don’t like her, at all, but I feel like she isn’t to blame in this situation, she never told him to buy 10k in stock, it was her fault for not posting when she said but, she did it fully for free for him and she explained why she appeared orange, idk I feel both are at some fault.
Yes, he did make the active decision to take out that big of a loan knowing she was obviously unreliable. However, the same person also basically was giving this small business owner a chance that she wouldn't normally give others because they "cannot keep up with the demand of her fame and product recommendation" which in my opinion is a bs reason not to support small businesses. Customers ordering from small business should understand and expect that when a small business blows up, they will run out of stock but will eventually restock at some point. Its kinda common sense? I think there are more reasons to support small businesses as a creator than not honestly. And holding back from doing so obviously backfired in her face. And him taking the extra step to make more product after being given the green light from Mikayla so he would avoid running out of stock, I can see how taking out the loan would make sense in the moment to him. He felt like she owed him for promoting the brand that ripped him off and then repeatedly blowing him off. And if he was dealing with someone with positive social media influence and who was reliable, it could have been a really good business decision.
No he shouldn’t have trusted her but it’s hard to understand the pressure and anxiety of being a small business owner right now especially in this economy. Unfortunately he let it get to him before she could make good on her word. No, she didn’t owe him but she could have said I don’t have time right now I’ll let you know when I do it. Hopefully he learned his lesson to never put trust in her again as she’s shown the public many times that she can’t be trusted.
To me she is partially to blame for the 10k, cause she told him she was going to review it so he believed her and got ready for it. Its kinda like you and your friend decide to go on a trip, your friends says yeah I’ll pay half you go and purchase everything and then your friend bails on you and you stuck with the full amount cause you went off their word. She should have never made the promise. I’m not saying she’s fully to blame but she is partly to blame I feel cause if she would had just been truthful he wouldn’t had bought it.
@@FabiolaRVelaI disagree with this take her review wouldn’t be for free, she still makes money of off the platforms she shares like Tiktok, Instagram and such so she would make money through that. Also her job is to review things not being a mouthpiece for the brand so I imagine her not being paid by the products she reviews is a plus for her reviews.
Her most recent videos really blow my mind. The fact she did a video showing how much PR she gets so she obviously can't always test things right away was bitchy. It's fair to say you can't get to everything quickly but the way she said it was, in my opinion, rude. And promising to do it and then not is shady. Just say you can't do it. That's way less problematic than lying. She also kind of slammed Meredith, her friend, by bashing the deal Morphe supposedly offered her a while back. She just so happened to mention this right after Meredith got the exact same deal and was so excited. That to me seemed deliberate and shady because why are you just now mentioning turning down this deal the same week Meredith was celebrating hers? Great friend
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As a business owner, this is on him. He should have had a plan for when the post happened. You can get pre-approved for a loan but hold off on taking it and restart the process quickly. He didn't need 10k in stock immediately waiting for mikayla, and even if something sells out THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. You want the demand. You want the drama. I dont like mikayla at all. Shes absolutely obnoxious in the absolute worst way. But this guy put a lot of stock in, lets face it, a promise. It wasnt a contract, it wasnt a sponsorship, he asked and she said sure. She went with the paid promotions first. Shitty? Yep.
honestly i was completely on board with the $10,000 loan being solely his fault, because it’s not like she told him to do it. but when i saw that when he let her know what was up and her response was “well at least you’ll have the stock when the video goes out”…? nahhh she gets some of the blame for that too
Its not her fault he decided to take the loan BUT when these big reviewers do review products the products usually end up out of stock and he was just acting on her word so i dont think its fair to say that its his fault. Usually if someone says they will do something you trust that they keep their word. He had a business to run and when you expect a big order you obviously buy more. Anyway…
I agree with you Adam, it was this person's business decision that this person choose to make and unfortunately the first time that Makayla didn't post the video that should have been the sign that she is flighty and won't follow through. The reasoning for the loan was understandable but that wasn't a great decision. And Makayla should have been upfront or not responded at all. Also Japan Trip!!🥰 I bet the weather is going to be amazing!!! ☺
Mad Catster said he might cover this. The law recognizes something called “promissory estoppel” where a person can be on the hook for promises if the other person reasonably relied on that promise and lost money. So, for example, you say “I promise to paint your house this weekend, so long as you buy the paint.” And then I go out and buy $200 worth of paint. Then the weekend arrives and you say “nah, I’ve changed my mind, I won’t do it.” Hypothetically I could take you to small claims court for the $200 I spent on the paint in reliance on your promise. I don’t know whether he would *win* on a promissory estoppel claim, but I believe he could bring that claim against her and it wouldn’t be frivolous
Adam you are so mature and I so appreciate your takes. You seriously look at a situation from a 360° view and give credit where credit is due and take away where it’s not. You don’t just talk for drama. You’ve become one of my favorite TH-camrs to watch. Found you, unfortunately, due to the Colleen situation but she lost me and you gained me lol…. Just wanted to stop by and say that.
i don’t like mikayla but i think it’s important to point out he does not know for a fact she got a spray tan or used another tanner. he made an assumption and then said it like it was a fact because there’s “no way his would come out looking that bad” again i am not a mikayla fan don’t come for me, it’s obvious she’s untrustworthy so why are we making a $10k purchase on her word and no legal contract??
I can relate with the thinking a brand new 30 minute conversation with a new person can feel like “I’ve made a new friend,” and then never hear from them again. 😅
I was just watching the H3 podcast go over this video and her response and then his follow up to her response lol perfect timing cause it was fresh on my mind.
I get the feeling she was waiting for one of these follow ups to include a payment offer. He shouldn't have gotten the loan, but she led him on and seemed to be egging him on with the other tanners. Weird
The fact this dude took a business loan from shopify is a HUGE red flag to me. He clearly isn't very good at making business decisions and I wouldn't buy from him
Right, but he has in writing that she intended to make a video promoting his product, so that 100% justifies taking out the $10,000 loan. She didn’t follow through on her end of the deal, that’s not his fault.
He could have done a "pre order" for product instead of having everything in stock and ready to ship. That way if he did have an insane number of customers he could still get the sales, and could take out the loan to get the $10k in product IF it was needed.
100% agree with adam. there was no contract as far as we know, and she only showed him flakey tendencies, 10k was a HUGE investment to make on her word. not her fault
Bad moral decision for her to lie and bad financial decision for him to rely on someone he doesn't even know
exactly. especially considering her reputation
This
@@ellamiller6889right? After all her controversy recently about the mascara, the falsies, everyone side-eyeing her and now he wants to trust her with 10k?!
I do feel bad for him, this was unfair as hell of her, but her reputation precedes her. I wouldn’t do business with someone like that, especially not 10k’s worth
Best summary of the whole issue
Yeah I feel bad for him that he took out that loan but also... you shouldn't have done that. I definitely see how the decision happens but it was a bad decision.
The fact that she’s not willing to review small brand because they can’t handle the influx in sales but will lie so Maybelline can get a bag is wild
THIS!
It’s definitely not Mikayla’s fault he took the loan, but it’s a huge problem that she kept promising to review it and even lied about using it. Like if she was gonna refuse to use/review it, why not just not promise too!?!? It would have been so easy to not do that.
Verbal contracts are a thing in court, she could definitely be found liable
@@cherrybomber69 since he didn’t tell her about the loan before doing it, I don’t think that’s the case, but I’m not a lawyer so idk. I don’t think she can be found liable for him taking an action she was completely unaware of
Well, she didn't lie about using it. He made that up
I disagree that it’s not her fault. She made a whole point in a video about small businesses not being able to handle the influx of orders that come from her reviews and then promised, with an actual timeline (saying that she would do it the next day) to do the review. He merely acted on her words and advice, assuming she was good to her word.
hes an idiot and so is she. all i gotta say is lol
As someone from Boston (born and raised) the iconic “Boston accent” is almost died out. The only time I hear it nowadays is when people are playing it up and it’s so annoying. I also just don’t understand her getting bullied for a Boston accent in mass to the point she had to hide it until a certain time and then all of a sudden she doesn’t care. Idk she’s just an ick in human form for me
I’m confused cause she grew up in Boston so the people around her also had some type of “Boston accent” why would they bully her when they sound the same
I disagree a lil bit my whole family had a heavy accent but hers is so grossly played up
lol nah its still pretty common for the working class
Yesterday on the H3 podcast one of the crew members said he knows someone who went to school with her and she never had that accent 🤭
So she hid it, had a totally different accent for ages and then suddenly 💥 BAM 💥 one day it was back again?! 😹😹
Not you copying her accent at the beginning😭😂😂 That’s freaking gold!!!
YES. I literally cackled omg.
It was so good. 😄
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honestly, he made a bad business decision by not getting a signed contract agreement before purchasing $10,000 worth of product
To play Devil’s Advocate for a second: it’s not Mikayla’s fault the guy jumped the gun and ordered $10K worth of products before getting a clear answer from her. 🤷🏻♀️
That being said, Mikayla did say she would review it, and she just kept putting it off because in my opinion, she only does reviews of things she’s getting paid for. 💁🏻♀️
I agree with this take. They both made poor choices but you can't rely on anyone else especially in the social media world on word when there's no contracts or offical agreements in place. It sucks for him but she doesn't owe anyone anything.
EXACTLY!! like she doesn’t owe you anything even IF she says she will do something
This! You get what you get when its a free shout out.
I mean given her past that she has sold out products from her reviews and the product is proven to be good, he predicted that he would sell out and brought more for her review. The obvious reason she wasn't reviewing the product, was because she wasn't being paid, it's known she is a money hungry influencer (only cares about money) and barely reviews products without some coin involved, she always gets paid for reviews and doesn't disclose it, so do many on tiktok. Unpaid reviews are the ones I want personally... becuase the chances are they are going to be an honest review. the probable reason she doesnt do indie brands is because they dont pay so good or expect a free review... i dont trust her opinion one bit
yeah she should’ve been less specific about when it would come out and only say she was putting it up after she filmed and edited
Your immitation of her reminds me of the office lady, Roz, in Monsters Inc... "I'm watching you, Wazowski. Always watching. Always." 😂
I think if she had done the review and he didn't get the sales he'd hoped for, that would have been on him for the debt. But I think considering the influence Makayla has had, selling products out nationwide, it was a reasonable choice to prepare for that since she gave written confirmation she was going to do a review multiple times.
also if she had done the review and he hadn’t gotten the extra stock, he could’ve been unprepared for the possible influx which could’ve had other negative effects on business. I think it was kinda flipping a coin atp and he chose the option he felt was best given the info/situation
And she KNEW she had that influence. Like she even commented on being reluctant to review smaller businesses because od that affect.
Nah sorry she had flaked on him before, yet he still went ahead and took out the loan and immediately spent it, idiot move from a business owner
@@cynthia3532 That's a fair point. There were red flags and I think 10k was a little much.
The fact she even reassured him that “at least he would ah e the product” for when she finally did the review and still didn’t do it. That’s what confirmed to me this was on her.
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I don’t think it’s her fault that he initially took the loan out on 10k products, BUT I do think, after being told that, it’s pretty evil of her to keep dancing around doing it considering she actually KNEW how much he needed the help after he told her how stressed he was.
The texts definitely show how flakey she was with him. All she has to do is be honest. She has no preceeding reputation to protect by saying she doesn't want to review it when she ruined that ages ago with lashgate. ONTOP of that she once again lied about using a sponsored product. She is not professional and plays her audience constantly for a bag. It amazes me she still has supporters after a consistently using her audience for money, complaining and then not apologising when she screws over people. 🙄🙄🙄
Thank GOD you posted, I was about to die of boredom.
ikr! i was ALMOST about to go do something productive like clean my room 😭
Adam comes in with the Defibrillators just in time to shock us all back to life with his video! ⚡️ 😹😹
Mikayla is going to become the next Jeffree Star, I fear 😭
Atleast Jeffree is honest in his makeup reviews
@@Abbey925 I don't think he is tbh
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I will say he is a great business man@@Abbey925
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Tbh I get where everyone is coming from saying that it's his fault for buying the extra stock, but imagine it more this way-- prepping for a video like that is similar to prepping for an event, you have to have stock specifically for that event outside of standard stock. If suddenly the event that is planned for gets canceled or just randomly doesn't happen, that ultimately fucks over the business. I have known many businesses that have lost out due to stuff like that, esp artists.
Exactly, I'm not really sure how it's fair to say that she's wrong for breaking a promise, but not acknowledge that part of why that's wrong is that a promise comes with planning and consequences if it's broken... The consequences for him was having spent way too much on stock. Business spending is always a risk, but that doesn't mean that a lack of ethics contributing to a loss isn't worth pointing out.
Also, among her many response videos, she's stated multiple times, in reply to others asking why she hasn't promoted small businesses lately, that she doesn't do them on the whimsy anymore because she knows her impact and that she doesn't want to overwhelm a small business with sales that they can't fulfill/aren't ready to handle.
It was a poor decision on his part, but it goes hand-in-hand with the unspoken 'code of ethics' these influencers and businesses are supposed to practice in these scenarios.
Mikayla continuously assuring him she'd do it, also with the impression that she'd like it, is what gave him the cue to prepare himself, and he did.
He pounced on the decision thinking that someone as established and supposedly professional would understand the 'unspoken rules' and how valuable they are to practice when you consider the consequence for the business.
And then when businesses DON'T have enough stock everyone gets mad at asks "why didn't they order extra when they knew so and so was reviewing them" so unfortunately it feels like small businesses can't win either way. She never should have lied to him and been honest from the beginning.
I don't get why people STILL defend her
i’m so glad i found your videos after the whole colleen thing, seriously best thing to come out of that mess was finding a new favourite channel
and the ukelele ofc
yeah it was his decision to buy the stock but once mikayla knew about it, after she had already been leading him on for months, if she was a decent person she would have done the review. she kept on playing games even after he told her how much money he put into it which imo reveals exactly what kind of person she is. it was a smart decision on his part imo. he outplayed her.
I totally agree !! Its the decent thing to do…
On the $10,000 issue. As a small business owner/artist. Also I understand why he did it. Honestly we got burned a lot before I finally got a spine and stopped trying to be likeable. Also if it’s been months since you’ve gotten a review definitely wouldn’t be putting any stock behind her words. However Mikel’s is in the wrong for constantly assuring him then just not doing it. But I didn’t even know about Mykeala before lashgate. IMO they both made bad choices and in the end I kinda want to try his tanner and I barely wear makeup. Also Adam stay strong I e been following you for awhile and love your content. You usually present facts/pros/cons and overall engaging content. Thank you
He came off entitled and delulu imo. I wouldnt try his product even if I tanned because of how he handled the whole thing.
@@FabiolaRVelaagreed!!
@@FabiolaRVelahe thought he would get rich quickly without any effort.
“I gotta see this” immediately when getting notified 😂
Yes it was his business decision to purchase 10k of product, but he was kind of mislead to believe he needed to.. it's a mixed bag imo
Thank you for affirming that she fakes her accent! I’ve received so much harassment on TT from her fans for saying that
I feel like you did such a good job analyzing this situation. You had me cracking up and saw all the angles being played here. Obviously she is not a mentally well individual and compulsively lies (with a fake accent that could peel the paint off of walls)...But he made his choice to invest without any guarantee other than a promise from a stranger.
Do these small businesses not write up contracts? I couldn't imagine just trusting a random influencer's word to mention my product, much less not spelling out the terms of the review deal.
“Kim Kardaaaashian”
I had to block her from my tiktok. It’s just infomercials at this point, ad after ad. Then I go to the comments and people have issues with the products she’s even lying about
A point for me is that he could have waited until she posted the review and THEN take out the loan if it's deposited within 24 hrs. Mikayla said she was posting her review the next day.. he could have waited until she posted it since it sounds like it was only delayed a day if mikayla stuck to her word
Right!! Especially after she told him several times before that she would post and didn’t…What changed this time to trust her and take the loan out immediately?? I feel like this is all drummed up to get those sales. To get the product shipped to him may still take time. It’s not like he can run up to the store and get immediate product ready to sell/ship to a customer. The quickness of the loan was a poor snap decision.
The 10k was a logical business decision. When you are planning a marketing campaign (or any other event) you’re going to spend money to be prepared for incoming orders. You have to project an order # and then prep your manufacturer for that. Not doing that would be insane.
When people drop out of projects/collaborations it sucks and it’s scummy imo. I was planning an event for the company I work for with an influencer and they dropped out after I had order a bunch of materials for that event. I wouldn’t say they owe me money for those materials (because they didn’t borrow money from me) but I would totally say they’re the reason I lost that money. No, they didn’t tell me to spend money on materials directly, but we were planning an event together that they knew I had to prep for.
I agree with you on the business decision. Plus it's not like he *lost* money - it's stock he has available for sale now. While I think what Makayla did was pretty crappy and unethical, unless they had a signed agreement it's not really her responsibility if another business makes the choice to invest in their product. Now its his job as a business owner to find other ways to market and clear the 10k of product.
ADAM THAT IMPRESSION YES HAHAHA
It a complicated issue because I can see he is reaponsible for the loan but in the other hand Mikayka has stated before that she is hesitant reviewing smaller brands because they don't have enough product to handle the customers she's gonna send. So we have someone who hears what she's saying, she promises to a video and they're preparing ahead. If she's aware enough to know that the traffic will wipe out a small business's products (and make a public comment) she can't be utterly shocked that a small business would prepare in advance either. Really goes to show why contracts are important
Adam's imitation of Mikayla saying "Kim Kardashian" was spot on
11:22 all of the internet may say it’s Mikayla’s fault however watching Ethan H3 talk about it was very refreshing imo
Right. H3 is always coming through. ❤
@@30pumpkinsbro45 haha most of the time I wouldn’t say always cause he does sometimes say things I don’t agree with but was surprised on this one I agreed with him 😁❤️
To be honest (and a little conspiratorial), I don’t think he genuinely thinks Mikayla is in the wrong for not posting the video. He realized he made a bad decision by taking out the loan and needed to recoup the loss. Making this video was the only way to stir up attention and move product. Did you notice how he said his mom asked him if he had ever seen someone look orange after using his tanner? Sounds like advertising to me 😂 smart guy
When he said that part my head instantly tilted lmfao like that’s convenient
Totally agree! Any publicity really is good publicity in the cosmetic world
He talked about Mikaylas promise before he took the loan
I pointed that on under a tiktok! I had a crazy conspiracy that this was all intentional on both sides because at the moment, drama with Mikayla goes way more viral than a simple review. Highly doubt now it was all intentional but I think on his side he definitely knew stirring the drama would bring in those sales for that 10k loan with it being Mikayla drama 😂
Hahhahah that made me react too like SUREEEE your mom said that. SURE 😂
I agree with you, Adam. It's common business sense to never take out a loan for something based on a verbal promise or agreement. He said himself it was a loan that came in 24 hours to his bank account. I don't think waiting one more day for the review to come out and to get the loan would've made a huge difference for distribution. I think he got excited, it's understandable as to why, but to blame taking out the loan preemptively on her is not entirely warranted in my opinion.
Crazy thing is, he’s acting like this and buying $10,000 worth of product BEFORE knowing if she even liked it. She could have hated it and he still would have made her out as the villain. He just wanted attention. He would of complained either way. As someone who tans every week and has tried every tanner on the market, Ill be avoiding his product.
Thank you for mentioning the weird voice thing. Thought I'd was just me who thought she suddenly sounded like Roz on Monster's Inc.
let's get adam to 1M bcs he deserves it and he's an angel that gets me thru rough days
Yessss 👏
ADAM IN HIS TRAVELLING ERA!!!!
I love how you have common sense!! Mikayla might not be a good person but he chose to take out the loan, 24 hours wasn’t going to hurt him to wait to see the amount of orders.. he’s out 10k bc he was impatient
Not Adam doing a Massachusetts accent😭🤭❤️
Im sorry but the way he described her tan as hideous took me tf out 😂
I see a lot of people talking about how it's his fault for taking out the loan and blah blah blah. But no one mentions that he made a video saying he made the decision and it was 100% on him. He's providing details to the story. He never explicitly blamed Mikayla for him choosing to take out the loan. I took this more as him, letting people know how Mikayla was while also getting the exposure he was essentially promised with that review.
I agree with you Adam. If he could have gotten the loan so fast he could have waited another day or two to see the demand if she made the video. Also, just because she was possibly going to make a video about it, a smart person wouldn't take a financial risk on something like that. He made a bad bussiness decision unfortunately
But what if the review was bad? Is he implying that her review wasn’t going to be genuine?
Also I can relate to telling people “oh yeah I’ll send it tomorrow” and forgetting but I have ADHD and a chronic illness so I need to stop saying yes to stuff anyway.
Perfect impression. Absolutely nailed it. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to my ears!
she irritates me so much i have her blocked on tiktok so that i dont get her ads on my fyp bc i cant stand her
Waiting for a tattoo tour!
For once, this is not her fault. There was never a formal agreement. Especially when $10k is involved. Why would you rely on her in the first place?
Yeah this guy made those desicions and then tried to blame them on her 😅, it’s quite nuts imo.
I’m so excited to see what you do in Japan as I’m planning a trip to Japan this year as well I’m so excited! 🤍🇯🇵
he’s a grown man who can make his own decisions. idc how much i hate mikayla, she didn’t force him to do anything. it’s a little annoying to see everyone telling him he has no fault in this.
This!!! I feel the same way. Not a huge fan of liars but she owes him NOTHING
Agreed, and since she already has such a bad reputation, it's easy to get sympathy and supporters no matter who's at fault because people will hate on those who are already hated
If he had offered her that 10k she would have done it right away. We know him not paying her is why she isn’t doing it. It gains her nothing
I agree with your assessment on the business decision.
hi muckersss. tbh sometimes i dont know who you're making videos about but thats what make them so entertaining (most of the time) and by the end i know 😂
This guy probably got more exposure “exposing her” then if she had actually posted the review.
Adam's impressions of Mikayla are cracking me up. 😭😭
I don’t think the 10k is her fault in the sense that she made the video abt indie brands but I think it is in the fact that she said she would make the video and didn’t and that led the 10k to being a waste, if she made the video and the promo flopped she would not be at fault at all
I don’t like her, at all, but I feel like she isn’t to blame in this situation, she never told him to buy 10k in stock, it was her fault for not posting when she said but, she did it fully for free for him and she explained why she appeared orange, idk I feel both are at some fault.
Yes, he did make the active decision to take out that big of a loan knowing she was obviously unreliable. However, the same person also basically was giving this small business owner a chance that she wouldn't normally give others because they "cannot keep up with the demand of her fame and product recommendation" which in my opinion is a bs reason not to support small businesses. Customers ordering from small business should understand and expect that when a small business blows up, they will run out of stock but will eventually restock at some point. Its kinda common sense? I think there are more reasons to support small businesses as a creator than not honestly. And holding back from doing so obviously backfired in her face. And him taking the extra step to make more product after being given the green light from Mikayla so he would avoid running out of stock, I can see how taking out the loan would make sense in the moment to him. He felt like she owed him for promoting the brand that ripped him off and then repeatedly blowing him off. And if he was dealing with someone with positive social media influence and who was reliable, it could have been a really good business decision.
This is why you always get things in writing before making large purchases
No he shouldn’t have trusted her but it’s hard to understand the pressure and anxiety of being a small business owner right now especially in this economy. Unfortunately he let it get to him before she could make good on her word. No, she didn’t owe him but she could have said I don’t have time right now I’ll let you know when I do it. Hopefully he learned his lesson to never put trust in her again as she’s shown the public many times that she can’t be trusted.
To me she is partially to blame for the 10k, cause she told him she was going to review it so he believed her and got ready for it. Its kinda like you and your friend decide to go on a trip, your friends says yeah I’ll pay half you go and purchase everything and then your friend bails on you and you stuck with the full amount cause you went off their word. She should have never made the promise. I’m not saying she’s fully to blame but she is partly to blame I feel cause if she would had just been truthful he wouldn’t had bought it.
she’s awful for lying but he expected her to work for free 💀 he sounds like a bad business owner to me
They’re not friends tho.. they’re strangers on the internet 😅.. he expected a total stranger to review his product FOR FREE 😂😅..
@@FabiolaRVelaI disagree with this take her review wouldn’t be for free, she still makes money of off the platforms she shares like Tiktok, Instagram and such so she would make money through that. Also her job is to review things not being a mouthpiece for the brand so I imagine her not being paid by the products she reviews is a plus for her reviews.
As a portuguese person, I hope you enjoyed your stay in Lisbon! So sad that I live in the other corner of Portugal, would've loved to meet you! :)
Bet she would have reviewed it the next day if he had given her an affiliate link.
Omg that impression you keep doing of her cracks ne up it sounds like Eric Cartman.
Her most recent videos really blow my mind. The fact she did a video showing how much PR she gets so she obviously can't always test things right away was bitchy. It's fair to say you can't get to everything quickly but the way she said it was, in my opinion, rude. And promising to do it and then not is shady. Just say you can't do it. That's way less problematic than lying.
She also kind of slammed Meredith, her friend, by bashing the deal Morphe supposedly offered her a while back. She just so happened to mention this right after Meredith got the exact same deal and was so excited. That to me seemed deliberate and shady because why are you just now mentioning turning down this deal the same week Meredith was celebrating hers? Great friend
Hey Adam I was just about to get ready for bed and I saw that you posted I love and appreciate you so much thank you for being you and like I said before I’m proud to be a mucker a least I know I’m aware my version of God Bless The USA but my version is called God Bless The Muckers😁😁😁
Love you Adam!! Thanks for being a gem and posting so much, much appreciated cutie 💯
Adam giving side eyes and looking to the camera when the guy's talking is KILLING ME.
Peter was right. You really are doing around the world in 80 days 😂 Good for you Adam. I hope you have a ball ✨💜
All your videis lately have been wonderful adam. Enjoy yourself and seeing your doggos and such. Lots of love from Michigan ❤️ number 1 hehe
As a business owner, this is on him. He should have had a plan for when the post happened. You can get pre-approved for a loan but hold off on taking it and restart the process quickly. He didn't need 10k in stock immediately waiting for mikayla, and even if something sells out THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. You want the demand. You want the drama. I dont like mikayla at all. Shes absolutely obnoxious in the absolute worst way. But this guy put a lot of stock in, lets face it, a promise. It wasnt a contract, it wasnt a sponsorship, he asked and she said sure. She went with the paid promotions first. Shitty? Yep.
honestly i was completely on board with the $10,000 loan being solely his fault, because it’s not like she told him to do it. but when i saw that when he let her know what was up and her response was “well at least you’ll have the stock when the video goes out”…? nahhh she gets some of the blame for that too
Its not her fault he decided to take the loan BUT when these big reviewers do review products the products usually end up out of stock and he was just acting on her word so i dont think its fair to say that its his fault. Usually if someone says they will do something you trust that they keep their word. He had a business to run and when you expect a big order you obviously buy more. Anyway…
I agree with you Adam, it was this person's business decision that this person choose to make and unfortunately the first time that Makayla didn't post the video that should have been the sign that she is flighty and won't follow through. The reasoning for the loan was understandable but that wasn't a great decision. And Makayla should have been upfront or not responded at all.
Also Japan Trip!!🥰 I bet the weather is going to be amazing!!! ☺
Mad Catster said he might cover this. The law recognizes something called “promissory estoppel” where a person can be on the hook for promises if the other person reasonably relied on that promise and lost money.
So, for example, you say “I promise to paint your house this weekend, so long as you buy the paint.” And then I go out and buy $200 worth of paint. Then the weekend arrives and you say “nah, I’ve changed my mind, I won’t do it.” Hypothetically I could take you to small claims court for the $200 I spent on the paint in reliance on your promise.
I don’t know whether he would *win* on a promissory estoppel claim, but I believe he could bring that claim against her and it wouldn’t be frivolous
having a policy to not review small brands because of the promotion you give them but being the cause of mascaragate is a choice
Adam you are so mature and I so appreciate your takes. You seriously look at a situation from a 360° view and give credit where credit is due and take away where it’s not. You don’t just talk for drama. You’ve become one of my favorite TH-camrs to watch. Found you, unfortunately, due to the Colleen situation but she lost me and you gained me lol…. Just wanted to stop by and say that.
I do agree with you about his decision to get the loan. What is the saying? Don't count your chickens before they've hatched, I think.
i don’t like mikayla but i think it’s important to point out he does not know for a fact she got a spray tan or used another tanner. he made an assumption and then said it like it was a fact because there’s “no way his would come out looking that bad”
again i am not a mikayla fan don’t come for me, it’s obvious she’s untrustworthy so why are we making a $10k purchase on her word and no legal contract??
The wild thing is for Mikayla $10K is like $100. She’s a multimillionaire and nothing effected her whatsoever
I can relate with the thinking a brand new 30 minute conversation with a new person can feel like “I’ve made a new friend,” and then never hear from them again. 😅
Why are you always slaying?!?!
right like give us ur secrets adamm
hope you’re having fun adam!
hahahah ADAM, not you chuckling at her hands hahaha
I was just watching the H3 podcast go over this video and her response and then his follow up to her response lol perfect timing cause it was fresh on my mind.
I get the feeling she was waiting for one of these follow ups to include a payment offer. He shouldn't have gotten the loan, but she led him on and seemed to be egging him on with the other tanners. Weird
The fact this dude took a business loan from shopify is a HUGE red flag to me. He clearly isn't very good at making business decisions and I wouldn't buy from him
Well hes getting money now doe so it worked for him 😂
@@Joog0444 lolol yeaa I guess 🤣
Right, but he has in writing that she intended to make a video promoting his product, so that 100% justifies taking out the $10,000 loan. She didn’t follow through on her end of the deal, that’s not his fault.
His 1st mistake was going to Mikaela with her shady history, his 2nd mistake was taking out the loan without guaranteed.
She def fakes her accent & I'm so glad you said that. I'm from Massachusetts...we do not talk like that at all. Idk wtf type of accent that is
Ahahahahaha voice impersonation is taking me out 😭😭😭🤣
the way Adam made fun of her accent sounded like the secretary from monsters inc 😭
mikayla has never gave me good vibes
12:43 I def agree with you, Adam! people can’t depend on people 🤷🏾♀️
He could have done a "pre order" for product instead of having everything in stock and ready to ship.
That way if he did have an insane number of customers he could still get the sales, and could take out the loan to get the $10k in product IF it was needed.
At 0:18 - it reminded me of Jenna Marbles saying “ I have a basketball game, tomorrow” 😂
100% agree with adam. there was no contract as far as we know, and she only showed him flakey tendencies, 10k was a HUGE investment to make on her word. not her fault
She literally sounds like the worm in the wheelchair out of SpongeBob
adam!!! i hope you're liking my country (and my city)!! you're very lucky since it was raining a lot like last week and now it's very sunny!