I don't know. Most of my dreams often take place in a dreamland version of the real world, oftentimes my hometown. I get scenes where my house is bigger than I remember them or how fancier the mall is. Sometimes, I get a great turquoise sea beside it or the skies look like straight up from the Flammarion Engraving and Zodiac charts...
I have dreams of going to a really old big house way out in the countryside. I also have dreams of really big waves in the ocean and they make me excited and happy. Those are the most common 😅
@@Rotisiv Wow... Did you know that many theologians are atheists without being overly critical of religion? That there is a criticism to be made of a theist or deist theologean? Or do you truly believe that study a chimpanzee one must first be a chimpanzee themselves? To study music, one must play an instrument and to study film, one must be a filmmaker? And don't get me started on geology experts. They have these warm hearts. Completely unlike the rock and stone they study.
I always assumed the 'mare' in the word nightmare had something to do with a horse. I had never heard of the mara creature until watching your video. Very cool stuff.
In Serbian it is Noćna Mora, and there was among pagan Slavs a goddess Morana that was considered evil. Even today the rivers with the name of Morava bare her name. Both words Noć and Mora have a common Indo-European origin, in Latin night is Nox, Spanish Noche, Lithuanian naktis etc.
i know i sound old and crusty for saying this, but i have a burning hatered for ai art. like, imagine growing up your entire life with the dream of becoming an artist. art isn't just a passion, it is the air you breathe and the blood in your veins. it is what gives your life meaning, the reason you're still alive, what pushes you onward into the future. And then some computer people just decided "hey let's program ai to do what artists do, but faster and cheaper." at that point, why pay an actual human artist for a comission when you could just type a prompt into an algorithm for it to spit an image resembling art almost instantly. with the way tjhings are going, in a few years i wont have even a hope of getting a job, much less being able to make a living on this skill that i've been tirelessly building FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE. i live to create art, and if that's taken away from my by some lifeless, souless lines of code (which realitsically is what's going to happen), then i don't know what i'm going to do.
You're conflating digital images to physical works of art. My linocuts, or digitally rendered Artistamps printed then oerforated on a 19th Century Rosback perforator can be shared by mail throughout the world. Likewise, a watercolor or oil painting or pen & ink drawing are physical works of art and; therefore, different from something that appears on a computer monitor. EDIT: I should add that I'm old if not crusty.
Noteworthy is also the use of dreams in classical music. Immediately there comes to mind the "devil's trill sonata" by Guiseppe Tartini. Tartini himself said: "One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me." It's a really interesting musical work and I highly recommend listening to it!
Great video and I want to add that the Japanese has a monster of dream too - Baku - and its a good kind of monster thankfully. I wish you known and added it in this video.
I had to look that up: from wkipedia _"Baku (獏 or 貘) are Japanese supernatural beings that are said to devour nightmares. According to legend, they were created by the spare pieces that were left over when the gods finished creating all other animals. They have a long history in Japanese folklore and art, and more recently have appeared in manga and anime. "_
I’m a novice surrealist paint/ink artist but I have spent hundreds of hours with AI doing exactly as you stated at the end of the video, and I completely resonated with it. I use it as a way of intentional, yet unconscious art, and with human specificity of particular grammar, tone, etc. it’s extremely possible to literally make dreams a reality before my hands could ever get it on to a page the way I wanted it. I’m not a huge fan of how AI is being used, but for me it’s been rather transformative. Amazing video, don’t know how I missed this one, got lost in the algorithm I suppose but incredible work as always!
Automatic drawing is actually a technique alot of legendary artist today use to make massive murals straight from imagination. Its also something very fun to do, iv made some freaky stuff that makes zero sense.
I woke up with something sitting on my chest about ten years ago, the experience terrified me , until I researched it and discovered sleep paralysis. It hasn’t happened since and I promptly became a side sleeper
Another amazing video! I must say this is by far my favorite out of all the videos you've created. I haven't paid attention to surrealism art for such a long time, and this has piqued my interest again to delve in this form of art, so thank you!
The aborigines: "hey look I drew a strange dream I had" "Wow!" Some guy on the internet somewhere in the future: "ah, yes, they clearly have been visited by extraterrestrials, amazing how the history of humanity (but mostly in south America, Asia, Africa and Australia) was influenced and maybe even decided by aliens."
This was a dang delight. (Edit: I'm surprised you didn't mention the face in the Dali painting with all of the spheres. 8:34 I had to rewind it because I hadn't noticed it until just before the scene changed.) (Double-edit: Now I can't UN-see it! How did I miss her the first time?! My focus must have been on individual spheres rather than the painting as a whole. I've gotta find a print of this. I love it!)
It’s funny, only a few years ago did I notice that 8:23 was a closed eye. I always saw it as a weird human-nosed, platypus-like blob monster with a mustache when I was little!
Unless your like me and have Aphantasia and once you close your eyes all you ever see is darkness while awake and during sleep. Some with this condition can have some visualizations to varying degrees during dreams. But dreams for me are simply plot points, words, and descriptions as best as I can put it. If you’ve never heard of this please check it out as it’s a fairly newly recognized phenomenon and this condition has very little to no research into it yet. My dream is the creator of this video reads this comment and becomes inspired to create a video about his impressions on this subject that would be very intriguing to me and I think many others as well. Dream on fellow readers❤
In Finnish nightmare is called "painajainen" which comes from the word "painaa, painaja" meaning "peress, presser". In folktales it's a creature, like a troll, imp or evil spirit who sits on your chest.
About the automatic drawings, yes they were supposed (to be and) to look like scribblings! but labeling them with another name was an act to give the casual drawing the same dignity as the common painting had on the common viewer's eye + think deeper about its making-of process... they were seen as another data, for the surrealist movement members, about the human brain's subconscious and its imaginative power. More interesting are the exquisite corpses the Surrealists invented at the time! Despite the name it is still now a funny game to play with your friends, I suggest to check that out! :)
I love keeping a record of my weirder dreams, I have them written down in a book, I like to add drawings of them whenever I remember enough detail. One I turned into a digital painting, but most are just biro sketches.
On the topic of dream-inspired art - the main man behind the terrific, yet nowadays inequitably forgotten musical project - maudlin of the Well, who goes by the name Toby Driver (idk about the other members of the project who were changing from album to album), stated to "find his music for it in the astral plain" through lucid dreaming and astral projection, rather than compose it. Now whether you believe in astral projection or not (I myself am a firm sceptic towards such concepts), the music created under this project, at least to me is really sth else and strictly for me it's one of the most if not the most important pieces of music I've ever heard and there totally is sth surreal about it. If you're interested in it, I'd recommend starting with the album "Bath", then "Leaving Your Bodymap". It's truly some amazing stuff
The subconscious is such a facinating thing. In one way, you can say subconsciously we freely have all types of thoughts and feelings. It can induce anxiety, yet if u learn to not overthink, or judge. You can embrace that subconscious. Almost like allowing ur inner youthful wonder join your adult self and when balanced right. It can really fuel creative imagination in our Life and the acceptance of the absurdity of the universe and the parts of it that are seemingly unanswerable. Yet those unanswerable aspects of the universe in another person who hasn't found this inner balance, can be driven mad from overthinking and worry.
Your thorough explanation on the development of this Art direction has sparked some thoughts. Surrealism would be a means to an end when anything that is oddly put together is generally categorized as something from the dream-like realm. I think there could be more. As I question the potential of this art form, I fell back to the application of lines and took off from Surrealism while following the same trend of thoughts on conscious, subconscious and unconscious. The works up to now are still nevertheless rendered by the cognitive brain to make an image recognizable. Therefore, any finished artwork is very much intentional instead of naturally flowing out from the psyche. I can see the residue of a face in Andre Masson’s drawing. It is the closest anyone has gotten to the brink between subconscious and conscious (ie. he did not `properly’ finished the face). Unconscious, on the other hand, I’d say, is scribble mindlessly without any sense involved. Artistry and character can be noted in subconscious lines. From the works of Mondrian, Miro to Pollock, the accidental crossing of lines has proven a faith in action. It is a belief, as Alan Watts put it, `an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth’. Without cognitive interference on the lines is the only way to keep the doorway open to the flow of hidden messages and revelations. The ancient Chinese used an instrument to write on sand for directions from the `higher order’. It is a kind of fortune telling... tapping into the future/unknown. So, if I were to scribble lines on a page and found faces/figures/compositions hidden in between, would this be a revelation, a step further…or something totally off track from Surrealism? Or merely pareidolia? Anyone? th-cam.com/video/6oc59jywqk8/w-d-xo.html
The prediction you make at the end sounds like such a dystopia. What happens to people making art in that world, I wonder? Are they not worth more than the AI? :,)
Hi Tommie, this comment has no direct link with this video specifically; but I just finished the last episode of "the Interruption" podcast. And boy, was it good! All my congratulations, and thanks, for this awesome content.
"De Cicero" hurt me so much. Constructive criticism: De Chirico actually had lots of debates and he actually despised surrealism as a whole, other than that, GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL
I once had a dream about this enormous tree, way before Avatar came out. When I saw the movie for the first time, it was more terrifying than cool. I look back and it's just funny now.
I was with you on the entire video until you started talking about AI art. It was interesting as an experiment at first but its predation on thousands of artists has overshadowed any merit it had of being art to begin with.
As always i find your videos one of a kind, wishing you Happy Holidays and hope we will see more of your videos and different subject matter the end of this year and in 2024.
Such a great video I love your voice I love the pace of your informative mind your British accent just awesome 👍.. loving the video about it and then watching more and more keep it up 😋👍😁
great content, as always. recently I've finished The Interruption and it was one of the best podcasts I've ever heard! I really hope you will grow as a content creator and you will come back with another fascinating podcast. I can't wait to see what you have stored for 2023
It would be nice to get some abstract imagery in my dreams to inspire my art, instead my dreams are all just self-insert Metal Gear fanfiction because that's what I've been playing these days.
This was an absolutely wonderful video and I'm a bit sad it isn't more popular. Dreams are such a fascinating subject and tie into many profound and interesting ideas and concepts.
Future of surrealism most likely won't be done by an AI. To dream is a very living experience and an AI with a database of pictures that may have been taken without consent, cannot create true surrealism, only immitate it. I think the future of surrealism and dream art is done through science instead. Maybe one day, we will know what a born blind man sees in his dreams.
Yep, was really enjoying this video as I usually love this channels videos but the AI part is unfortunate. AI is a sad copy and amalgamation of existing artist's work. It's barely AI as it's not an intelligence per se, it's just algorithms... Art needs soul, not just a look
Dreams are weird. Recently i had this dream in wich first my dad, brother and i drove up a mountain that had these dolphin carved logs. Sunlight barely got through the hight tress. The trail we drove in was a small road for almost two cars. Once on the top, there was this villa that got sunlight. There were two russian men that had old looking cars, many other normal cars and a small bar in wich you got shade. The men tried to talk to me in russian and since they were terrifying looking (like maffia bosses) i gabbe one of them a hand shake and said good afternoon. The sea was right in front despite that i just said you had to drive up. Colorful wals, carved with sea oriented things came up and down. They were really tall. The sea had a ver strong and fast current, wich you could confirm by the speed in wich a car that was floating in the sea for some reason floated from left to right. The colors were very bright but not blinding. Just bright with the help of the dreamy atmosphere. I like that dream very much because lately all my dreams had death and murder in them. The peaceful ones are the ones i truly want in my mind.
So amazing. I also have some of these dreams, most of them are lucid dreams and I also dream in color. But unfortunately I lack any type of artistic ability to draw them xD
Thank you very much for the several sparks given in this video. As a history of art teacher, I appreciated it very much. The only concern is about the pronunciation of Italian artists: both De Chirico and Arcimboldo were definitely wrong. Thank you anyway, it is really a great summary of the dreams and unconscious in art.
the whole video is really informative and gives a lot to reflect upon, I love it! My only request would be for You to improve the pronunciation of the foreign artist's names or to put subtitles with correctly written names, because I can't really understand it and I speak Italian fluently (not my first language though).
i've always loved surrealism, and a great deepdive would be of the intersection of surrealism and mysticism. Specifically, I love Remidios Varo, Leonara Carrington, and Kati Horna who had connections to Max Ernst, Andre Breton, and Picasso. Exiled during the war to Mexico, the three women would study all sorts of alchemy, spiritualism, and myth.
It's interesting how surrealism is still a strong artistic movement without recognizing its troublesome origins in romanticizing mental illnesses. They literally copied drawings and ideas from mental institutions of the time and called it "art". Dali's work is an example of this as well as the so-called "automatic drawing" technique, which is one of the creative symptoms of a lot of psychiatric conditions.
Not to mention it’s literally stolen every thing in their database then doesn’t have the decency to credit anyone. Like they are entitled to have it. Art station has its own program now. No one cares because they’re not artists. I use my art to make money but the ai should just get it for free?! Getty images is suing if Disney would step up it would help.
Yes! Dall-E ofc I got the explanation of Dall-E being also a play on spelling to Wall-E. I wonder if there will be a moment after where AI is inspired by AI.
Yes, I'm surprised that Wm Blake was not included. I saw a wonderful exhibition of his works in London in 1997 that left an impression on me which lingers to this day. On that note, you should see the Jim Jarmusch film, Deadman.
Figured I should mention its usually preferred to refer to the Dreamtime as the Dreaming instead as the former implies that it's a culture and tradition that is no longer active.
Only reason why I love coming to work
1- getting a paycheck
2- getting a Hochelaga video in the middle of my shifts
I wonder how vivid dreams would be without my tech addiction
That's what drugs are for
My dreams would be so boring if I didn't watch so many movies
I use tech all day and still have vivid dreams
I don't know. Most of my dreams often take place in a dreamland version of the real world, oftentimes my hometown. I get scenes where my house is bigger than I remember them or how fancier the mall is. Sometimes, I get a great turquoise sea beside it or the skies look like straight up from the Flammarion Engraving and Zodiac charts...
I have dreams of going to a really old big house way out in the countryside. I also have dreams of really big waves in the ocean and they make me excited and happy. Those are the most common 😅
I've always been incredibly interested in theology, I'm so glad I found this channel
They are an atheist though. Are you interested in the critic of theology?
@@Rotisiv Yet another self hater 🤭
@@Rotisiv he’s agnostic, he accepts that we can’t prove or disprove anything. This means there is no bias in the explanations
@@Rotisiv Wow... Did you know that many theologians are atheists without being overly critical of religion? That there is a criticism to be made of a theist or deist theologean? Or do you truly believe that study a chimpanzee one must first be a chimpanzee themselves? To study music, one must play an instrument and to study film, one must be a filmmaker? And don't get me started on geology experts. They have these warm hearts. Completely unlike the rock and stone they study.
always gotta be some loser in the comments@@Washeek
I always assumed the 'mare' in the word nightmare had something to do with a horse. I had never heard of the mara creature until watching your video. Very cool stuff.
the scary dream horse
Yup. Those german folk tales are friggin rediculus.
In Serbian it is Noćna Mora, and there was among pagan Slavs a goddess Morana that was considered evil. Even today the rivers with the name of Morava bare her name. Both words Noć and Mora have a common Indo-European origin, in Latin night is Nox, Spanish Noche, Lithuanian naktis etc.
@@TheArtofKAS Your spelling is more ridiculous
@@SpicyTexan64 😂😂. Wait until you get to the old English folktales my friend 😎
i know i sound old and crusty for saying this, but i have a burning hatered for ai art. like, imagine growing up your entire life with the dream of becoming an artist. art isn't just a passion, it is the air you breathe and the blood in your veins. it is what gives your life meaning, the reason you're still alive, what pushes you onward into the future. And then some computer people just decided "hey let's program ai to do what artists do, but faster and cheaper." at that point, why pay an actual human artist for a comission when you could just type a prompt into an algorithm for it to spit an image resembling art almost instantly. with the way tjhings are going, in a few years i wont have even a hope of getting a job, much less being able to make a living on this skill that i've been tirelessly building FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE. i live to create art, and if that's taken away from my by some lifeless, souless lines of code (which realitsically is what's going to happen), then i don't know what i'm going to do.
You're conflating digital images to physical works of art. My linocuts, or digitally rendered Artistamps printed then oerforated on a 19th Century Rosback perforator can be shared by mail throughout the world.
Likewise, a watercolor or oil painting or pen & ink drawing are physical works of art and; therefore, different from something that appears on a computer monitor. EDIT: I should add that I'm old if not crusty.
stop whining lol u act like is the end of the world lol no matter, people still support artist...created always something new ....wtf u talking about?
The synchronicity of your videos at the same time i am looking into a subject... I love it.
Yeah it's been weird lol
Noteworthy is also the use of dreams in classical music. Immediately there comes to mind the "devil's trill sonata" by Guiseppe Tartini.
Tartini himself said: "One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me."
It's a really interesting musical work and I highly recommend listening to it!
Hmm...
Thank you for sharing this!
I was certain this would be a Tenacious D "Tribute" joke. Excellent tidbit.
I sing his praise whenever I can, but Zdzislaw Beksinski embodies a wonderful mix of surrealism and the macabre. My favorite artist.
100%, he's my biggest inspiration as an artist
Great video and I want to add that the Japanese has a monster of dream too - Baku - and its a good kind of monster thankfully. I wish you known and added it in this video.
I had to look that up:
from wkipedia
_"Baku (獏 or 貘) are Japanese supernatural beings that are said to devour nightmares. According to legend, they were created by the spare pieces that were left over when the gods finished creating all other animals. They have a long history in Japanese folklore and art, and more recently have appeared in manga and anime. "_
@@madddog7 thank you for the explaination, many will find it helpful.
I’m a novice surrealist paint/ink artist but I have spent hundreds of hours with AI doing exactly as you stated at the end of the video, and I completely resonated with it.
I use it as a way of intentional, yet unconscious art, and with human specificity of particular grammar, tone, etc. it’s extremely possible to literally make dreams a reality before my hands could ever get it on to a page the way I wanted it.
I’m not a huge fan of how AI is being used, but for me it’s been rather transformative. Amazing video, don’t know how I missed this one, got lost in the algorithm I suppose but incredible work as always!
ai is garbage
Don't don't use Ai and call yourself a artist
Art isn't only paintings. Literature, sculpture, song, poetry, even dance are all art.
Not just song but music in general.
Did anyone here say otherwise?
Automatic drawing is actually a technique alot of legendary artist today use to make massive murals straight from imagination. Its also something very fun to do, iv made some freaky stuff that makes zero sense.
I woke up with something sitting on my chest about ten years ago, the experience terrified me , until I researched it and discovered sleep paralysis. It hasn’t happened since and I promptly became a side sleeper
Loved this. Dreams and art always fascinates me
Another amazing video! I must say this is by far my favorite out of all the videos you've created. I haven't paid attention to surrealism art for such a long time, and this has piqued my interest again to delve in this form of art, so thank you!
please tackle about the DMT creatures.
make a video on the finnish national epic, Kalevala. itsa cool story
Easily one of my favorite channels
9:03 Earliest depiction of the Vaporwave a e s t h e t i c lmao
Bro some of these are so sick why are these never shown in museums
4:10 Fun fact: This one painting is actually the origin of the word "nightmare".
I need like 5000 more videos like this. Please do Hindu myths soon! 🙏🏻
Whoo hoo!! Best day ever, thanks Hochelaga!!
The aborigines: "hey look I drew a strange dream I had"
"Wow!"
Some guy on the internet somewhere in the future: "ah, yes, they clearly have been visited by extraterrestrials, amazing how the history of humanity (but mostly in south America, Asia, Africa and Australia) was influenced and maybe even decided by aliens."
This was a dang delight.
(Edit: I'm surprised you didn't mention the face in the Dali painting with all of the spheres. 8:34 I had to rewind it because I hadn't noticed it until just before the scene changed.)
(Double-edit: Now I can't UN-see it! How did I miss her the first time?! My focus must have been on individual spheres rather than the painting as a whole. I've gotta find a print of this. I love it!)
It’s funny, only a few years ago did I notice that 8:23 was a closed eye. I always saw it as a weird human-nosed, platypus-like blob monster with a mustache when I was little!
Luckily I have been able to write down some of my dreams but some of my dreams have been so vivid that they feel like memories
I love sleeping because of dreams. My dreams are usually fucking wild.
I didn't want this video to end! Well done :D
Surrealism is probably the most interesting art movement! Great video!
Yes, many fine it weird
Awsome video. I was always intersted in the topic of surreal art and now one of my favorit youtubers makes a video about it. Nice
Unless your like me and have Aphantasia and once you close your eyes all you ever see is darkness while awake and during sleep. Some with this condition can have some visualizations to varying degrees during dreams. But dreams for me are simply plot points, words, and descriptions as best as I can put it. If you’ve never heard of this please check it out as it’s a fairly newly recognized phenomenon and this condition has very little to no research into it yet.
My dream is the creator of this video reads this comment and becomes inspired to create a video about his impressions on this subject that would be very intriguing to me and I think many others as well. Dream on fellow readers❤
Ngl, that apocalypse had me thinking that he dreamt that he was tiny and rain appeared as giant drops of water to him
In Finnish nightmare is called "painajainen" which comes from the word "painaa, painaja" meaning "peress, presser". In folktales it's a creature, like a troll, imp or evil spirit who sits on your chest.
About the automatic drawings, yes they were supposed (to be and) to look like scribblings! but labeling them with another name was an act to give the casual drawing the same dignity as the common painting had on the common viewer's eye + think deeper about its making-of process... they were seen as another data, for the surrealist movement members, about the human brain's subconscious and its imaginative power. More interesting are the exquisite corpses the Surrealists invented at the time! Despite the name it is still now a funny game to play with your friends, I suggest to check that out! :)
what a buffoon, is not game ....whats wrong with you
how old are u? 10?
I always look forward to your videos. I really liked this one!
Fun Fact: "The Scream" is an auto-portrait.
I love keeping a record of my weirder dreams, I have them written down in a book, I like to add drawings of them whenever I remember enough detail. One I turned into a digital painting, but most are just biro sketches.
Excellent! Keep up the good work.
Your videos are works of art. You really guide the mind and I and imagination walked thru a garden of earthly delights. Thanks a gazillion.
On the topic of dream-inspired art - the main man behind the terrific, yet nowadays inequitably forgotten musical project - maudlin of the Well, who goes by the name Toby Driver (idk about the other members of the project who were changing from album to album), stated to "find his music for it in the astral plain" through lucid dreaming and astral projection, rather than compose it. Now whether you believe in astral projection or not (I myself am a firm sceptic towards such concepts), the music created under this project, at least to me is really sth else and strictly for me it's one of the most if not the most important pieces of music I've ever heard and there totally is sth surreal about it. If you're interested in it, I'd recommend starting with the album "Bath", then "Leaving Your Bodymap". It's truly some amazing stuff
The subconscious is such a facinating thing. In one way, you can say subconsciously we freely have all types of thoughts and feelings. It can induce anxiety, yet if u learn to not overthink, or judge. You can embrace that subconscious. Almost like allowing ur inner youthful wonder join your adult self and when balanced right. It can really fuel creative imagination in our Life and the acceptance of the absurdity of the universe and the parts of it that are seemingly unanswerable. Yet those unanswerable aspects of the universe in another person who hasn't found this inner balance, can be driven mad from overthinking and worry.
Your thorough explanation on the development of this Art direction has sparked some thoughts.
Surrealism would be a means to an end when anything that is oddly put together is generally categorized as something from the dream-like realm. I think there could be more.
As I question the potential of this art form, I fell back to the application of lines and took off from Surrealism while following the same trend of thoughts on conscious, subconscious and unconscious.
The works up to now are still nevertheless rendered by the cognitive brain to make an image recognizable. Therefore, any finished artwork is very much intentional instead of naturally flowing out from the psyche. I can see the residue of a face in Andre Masson’s drawing. It is the closest anyone has gotten to the brink between subconscious and conscious (ie. he did not `properly’ finished the face).
Unconscious, on the other hand, I’d say, is scribble mindlessly without any sense involved. Artistry and character can be noted in subconscious lines.
From the works of Mondrian, Miro to Pollock, the accidental crossing of lines has proven a faith in action. It is a belief, as Alan Watts put it, `an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth’. Without cognitive interference on the lines is the only way to keep the doorway open to the flow of hidden messages and revelations.
The ancient Chinese used an instrument to write on sand for directions from the `higher order’. It is a kind of fortune telling... tapping into the future/unknown. So, if I were to scribble lines on a page and found faces/figures/compositions hidden in between, would this be a revelation, a step further…or something totally off track from Surrealism? Or merely pareidolia? Anyone?
th-cam.com/video/6oc59jywqk8/w-d-xo.html
whats your point
The prediction you make at the end sounds like such a dystopia. What happens to people making art in that world, I wonder? Are they not worth more than the AI? :,)
Hi Tommie, this comment has no direct link with this video specifically; but I just finished the last episode of "the Interruption" podcast. And boy, was it good!
All my congratulations, and thanks, for this awesome content.
always love catching up with these videos, keep em coming!
"De Cicero" hurt me so much.
Constructive criticism: De Chirico actually had lots of debates and he actually despised surrealism as a whole, other than that, GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL
I love your vids!! You deserve to have 1 mil subs! Soon! 🤞🤞
fake subs
I love this channel
I once had a dream about this enormous tree, way before Avatar came out. When I saw the movie for the first time, it was more terrifying than cool. I look back and it's just funny now.
Excellent as always
AI art isn’t on my good list but it is quite interesting.
garbage
I was with you on the entire video until you started talking about AI art. It was interesting as an experiment at first but its predation on thousands of artists has overshadowed any merit it had of being art to begin with.
great video! I think you might like to look into the works of Hilma at Klint - you won’t be disappointed !
As always i find your videos one of a kind, wishing you Happy Holidays and hope we will see more of your videos and different subject matter the end of this year and in 2024.
Such a great video I love your voice I love the pace of your informative mind your British accent just awesome 👍.. loving the video about it and then watching more and more keep it up 😋👍😁
You belittle what you are unaware is real sir. Thanks for the images.
great content, as always. recently I've finished The Interruption and it was one of the best podcasts I've ever heard! I really hope you will grow as a content creator and you will come back with another fascinating podcast. I can't wait to see what you have stored for 2023
You're one of the best youtubers...
It would be nice to get some abstract imagery in my dreams to inspire my art, instead my dreams are all just self-insert Metal Gear fanfiction because that's what I've been playing these days.
Just got done watching a surreal tattoo challenge on ink master and this pops up on my feed…
Peoples trying ot analyse dreams and making assumptions about you is the astrology of psychology.
9:25 wow I just realized I used do this back in school that’s crazy.
wow this is one of the first videos of yours ive seen and wow!! such a cool topic and presented so well, thanks for the vid :)
This was an absolutely wonderful video and I'm a bit sad it isn't more popular. Dreams are such a fascinating subject and tie into many profound and interesting ideas and concepts.
my man got a pretty damn early access to evangelion in his dreams tho
Btw The Interruption was an absolute blast, i loved it! Cheers 🍻🍻
Great work
4:30 creature:“is this folk punk?”
Cool video!
Future of surrealism most likely won't be done by an AI. To dream is a very living experience and an AI with a database of pictures that may have been taken without consent, cannot create true surrealism, only immitate it. I think the future of surrealism and dream art is done through science instead. Maybe one day, we will know what a born blind man sees in his dreams.
Yep, was really enjoying this video as I usually love this channels videos but the AI part is unfortunate. AI is a sad copy and amalgamation of existing artist's work. It's barely AI as it's not an intelligence per se, it's just algorithms... Art needs soul, not just a look
Ain won't do anything...
ripping artist work
Best quality videos on the platform
I fly in my dreams. I also have premonitions. I wish I could put them into visuals. I love your channel!
Sumerian texts and theory's are unreal . They might be false but it's how they get you thinking.
Dreams are weird. Recently i had this dream in wich first my dad, brother and i drove up a mountain that had these dolphin carved logs. Sunlight barely got through the hight tress. The trail we drove in was a small road for almost two cars. Once on the top, there was this villa that got sunlight. There were two russian men that had old looking cars, many other normal cars and a small bar in wich you got shade. The men tried to talk to me in russian and since they were terrifying looking (like maffia bosses) i gabbe one of them a hand shake and said good afternoon. The sea was right in front despite that i just said you had to drive up. Colorful wals, carved with sea oriented things came up and down. They were really tall. The sea had a ver strong and fast current, wich you could confirm by the speed in wich a car that was floating in the sea for some reason floated from left to right. The colors were very bright but not blinding. Just bright with the help of the dreamy atmosphere. I like that dream very much because lately all my dreams had death and murder in them. The peaceful ones are the ones i truly want in my mind.
made that one up
Carl Jung has patient with dreams. A sign from unconscious mind he said...
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So amazing. I also have some of these dreams, most of them are lucid dreams and I also dream in color. But unfortunately I lack any type of artistic ability to draw them xD
cuz u not artist duh...leave it as that
Hey man just went through a brake up so this video and you posting helps me so much thank you!!!!
Bro i tried psychedelics a few years ago ans my dreams or imagination have changed drastically and haven't been the same and im greatful
Loved this!
also ai images will never be art
One of the smart ones
Anyone know when happened to this creator? And I agree. Until AI has its heart broken a tries heroin… it aint making any good art.
Why?
Of course isn't
It's only going to get worse
The best channel on the tube!
Thank you very much for the several sparks given in this video. As a history of art teacher, I appreciated it very much. The only concern is about the pronunciation of Italian artists: both De Chirico and Arcimboldo were definitely wrong. Thank you anyway, it is really a great summary of the dreams and unconscious in art.
I can't even explain how much I loved this video.
the whole video is really informative and gives a lot to reflect upon, I love it! My only request would be for You to improve the pronunciation of the foreign artist's names or to put subtitles with correctly written names, because I can't really understand it and I speak Italian fluently (not my first language though).
I love your channel so much! Thank you for all your work!
I miss Hochelaga's new videos so much😢😢
Love your videos, incredibly interesting and thought provoking, thank you so much.
Delights
i've always loved surrealism, and a great deepdive would be of the intersection of surrealism and mysticism. Specifically, I love Remidios Varo, Leonara Carrington, and Kati Horna who had connections to Max Ernst, Andre Breton, and Picasso. Exiled during the war to Mexico, the three women would study all sorts of alchemy, spiritualism, and myth.
Not related to the video, but I just gotta say I really loved your podcast The Interruption, you sir truly are a great detective!
It's interesting how surrealism is still a strong artistic movement without recognizing its troublesome origins in romanticizing mental illnesses. They literally copied drawings and ideas from mental institutions of the time and called it "art". Dali's work is an example of this as well as the so-called "automatic drawing" technique, which is one of the creative symptoms of a lot of psychiatric conditions.
3:23 what an amazing painting
If you've ever had psychedelics/hallucinogenics, or even reached a trance-like state, you get it...
AI art can't make art from its own "imagination". It's merely an amalgamation of existing art. There is no "imagination to be accessed.
Not to mention it’s literally stolen every thing in their database then doesn’t have the decency to credit anyone. Like they are entitled to have it. Art station has its own program now. No one cares because they’re not artists. I use my art to make money but the ai should just get it for free?! Getty images is suing if Disney would step up it would help.
sue them@@pawnzrtasty
and these ai companies charging monthly@@pawnzrtasty
so interesting .. and another set of rabbit holes to fall into 🙂
Yes! Dall-E ofc I got the explanation of Dall-E being also a play on spelling to Wall-E. I wonder if there will be a moment after where AI is inspired by AI.
You should do a video about the Visionary Heads by William Blake
Yes, I'm surprised that Wm Blake was not included. I saw a wonderful exhibition of his works in London in 1997 that left an impression on me which lingers to this day. On that note, you should see the Jim Jarmusch film, Deadman.
johnny deppp lol black and white that gotta suk@@BradfordtheEclectic
Figured I should mention its usually preferred to refer to the Dreamtime as the Dreaming instead as the former implies that it's a culture and tradition that is no longer active.
Its one thing seeing whats in their mind its another thing thinking how they made each one .
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