Hah, I did something similar with silicone spray dry lubricant. Dr. Pulley sliders helped my scooter the most in terms of performance per dollar. I had to get some different sliders once I got a Malossi variator kit, but sliders in general are a good upgrade with a digital scale to 0.1 grams or 0.01 grams and some aluminum foil to add weight if needed to match the RPMs you want to get with a small engine inductive tachometer for about $15 wrapped around the spark plug wire. It sure was a pain to get the tools and knowledge to get to the variator. Just warn people if they don't install the belt properly with the variator nut tightened, they can damage the splines on the crankshaft, which is really really expensive to fix if worn through.
I would use that and any other lubricant you use in the transmission case very sparingly...if at all! When the teflon migrates onto the belt and clutch pads it isn't going to do anything good. I have never seen any manufacturer suggest this.
Great idea with the dry lube, I’m gonna do that on my wife’s and I bikes. 😊👊 It’s details like this, that builds a great rapport with your clientele. I know first hand previously being self employed and as client. Keep up the good work my friend. 😊👊
Hello. What weight dr pulley sliders do you recommend for Honda zoomer / ruckus 2007 polini variator? top speed would be the target rather than acceleration. Thanks in advance
Hey Mitch thanks. If possible please provide some instructions on this particular model Burgman 400. Up to model 2022. Change of Oil, Filter, Breaks, etc. Thanks you.
Hello, Thank you very much for this very educational video. Question: since my belt broke, then replaced, my Piaggio MP3 300 (2011) has a lot of trouble starting. When it starts, it works fine, but I can stall at idle and come in pushing! Do you have any ideas?
Good video as always! Thanks a lot. Make the Dr pulley sliders in the stock variator a lot of difference? Ingrease it the acceleration and also top speed?
Just buy a stage 1 pulley as it doesn’t have limiter at the edge where roller weights are placed. This compensates the limit of stock driver pulley as it does not open fully, limiting the top speed Edit: dr pulley sliders are applicable only on stock driver pulley. If used in a racing pulley, it will stock up between backplate and driver pulley.
@romeomaindan9982 thank you I have a completely built 2002 zuma big bore 70cc new clutch new front pully new carb and intake new reeds different final drive gear the whole shebang really need help tuning it if ur willing to help me I will send the real parts list ,,,name size etc,,,its a gift for my son for when he turns 15 that's in December,,,he rides his stock zuma now I just think I'm a lil off on my tune,,carb n roller weights plz help ihave $2500 in engine and tranny ty
I saw on another video where they used powdered graphite for the dry lube so I wondered which was best. TH-cam has another video comparing the Blaster Dry Lube and the Blaster GRAPHITE Dry Lube. They said that the regular dry lube is easily removed whereas the Graphite Dry Lube has to be removed with alcohol or mineral spirits. Makes me think that perhaps the Graphite stuff might be better?
Hey Mitch I haven't commented in a while but thanks for the nice informative video as always 👍, that Blaster Dry Lube is exactly what I used when I installed a new variator, clutch, belt, and Dr. pulley sliders 4 years ago on my Helix. I haven't gone too many miles since then but I'm thinking about doing an inspection and reassembly of the CVT during the cold winter months here on the east coast just to be ready and reliable for any future rides.
Q tal broo , tu sabes a sucede si le pongo unos variadores un poquito mS chicos a una motoeta? Tengo una suzuki an 125 y trae variadores de 10 gramos originales, no he he encontrado unos más ligeros , y los de la bws 100 son más ligeros de 7 gramos , pensaba cambiarlos pero no se q suceda si lo hago . saludos !!
Hey Mitch great videos I’ve watched many in my project piaggio fly. Sadly I’m stumped and can’t find any details as to why my rear brake light / running light doesn’t function as intended / running light stays on: Brake light doesn’t trigger when brakes are applied. Both brake compress buttons have also been replaced wth new. Any help is appreciated !
Would doing this slider upgrade and a new belt (stock or aftermarket?) help top end speed? I currently hit 32 mph and feels like I’m hitting a speed limiter, pulsates faster to slow then faster again. I’m hoping this might help fix it?
Hello Mitch, I’m following you because I think your videos are very helpful, however, I’m confused about one thing, I have an lovely Piaggio Vespa LX125 but but it starts hard and doesn't accelerate quickly... what should I do? should I change the transmission belt? and regarding the rollers, what weight should I fit to have a faster acceleration? Thank you in advance for all your support! You’re a great guy! Keep up the great work!
Lighter weights less centrifugal force higher revs mor accel heavier weights less centrifugal force needed to move them up the ramp more top speed less acceleration hard starts no acceleration can be coil going bad spark plug going bad make sure everything is connected and that you changed the gear oil and engine oil cleaned the air filter 1 to 2 main jet sizes will make it start faster
that’s interesting, I wonder if it would be OK to do that in a GY6 engine because I was thinking about doing different upgrades to the CVT system for a little bit more performance without engine mods because I don’t wanna wreck the motor
All scooters have different size of rollers / sliders and weights... nothing same ..... this video is just about how to install the sliders. You will have to look up on your scooter model what size it uses
Hey! I have tried out the Dr Pulleys a bit. My conclusion was that in a stock variators they are superior over rollers. In highly developed variators like Polini and Malossi it did not work so good. The Malossi could not gear up fully, the belt did nog go up all the way. On the Polini it got a bump in the middle, like shifting a gear, not as stepless as a variator should be. However, the plastic Dr. uses are really good quality. Do they also make rounds in same material? The scooters I tried on was 2 different "50cc+" engines, one GY6 and one water cooled 2-stroke. I also tried cheap knock-offs, the shape was identical but the material was not close to as good. The dry lube you use seems interesting. I need to try that. The brand you are using are hard to get here in sweden. Will any dry lube work better than nothing?
Hey Ben, I use dry lube in my burgman 400 for many years but I know I didn't show dry lube in every videos.. not a big deal but I suggest to use dry lube that helps moving smooth with less friction wear
Hello everyone, i want to increase the performance of my motorcycle a little more, I ordered dr Pulley performance roller and original bando strap. While the original rollers were 13gr, I bought a 12gr performance roller to speed up the takeoff. While the original size of the strap was 721x18.5x30, I mistakenly ordered a 722x18.5x30 strap. After installing the new 722x18.5x30 belt and performance rollers, the engine started to run very jerkily and its performance decreased compared to its original state. Let's get to the real question, I don't think I will have any problems due to the performance rollers because everyone who uses these rollers states that the performance has improved significantly and the engine runs more stable. It even saves fuel. Could using 722 belt instead of 721 make the engine more jerky and cause a decrease in performance? Sorry if there is any wrong wording, I wrote it using Google translate.
Hi Mitch. Learned a lot from you videos. I know that you're very detail oriented. But I've noticed and others have pointed out that the link you shared is a different spray, than the spray you used on your bike.
@@MitchsScooterStuff yes I am from Germany I also order the Dr pulley weights now for my scooter I will try them are they better then the original rolls ????
do not fit these on a chinese scooter ,they will damage your crank and cause it to fail in under a year .i speak from experience .after fitting these on my chinese 125 4 stroke scooter ,it buggered up 2 crankshafts . going back to rollers on my 3rd crankshaft .no problem at all . im sure they will work great on japanese bikes ,but on the chinese gy6 copies .they will effect the lifespan of your crankshaft .
Wow good to know... that's crazy... I have sliders in my Yamaha, honda, Suzuki, piaggio, vespa over 15 years with ton of miles, no issues... strange about Chinese's
Sounds like you didn't do your research and used weights that were too light if stock is 5gram roller weights you have to add a gram when switch to slider weights or you will Wind out your engine by rev ing too high especially if you also have a cdi that removes the rev limiter
Dry lubricant spray I use: amzn.to/3zO98PV
In your video your are using teflon based spray, not graphite.
Hah, I did something similar with silicone spray dry lubricant. Dr. Pulley sliders helped my scooter the most in terms of performance per dollar. I had to get some different sliders once I got a Malossi variator kit, but sliders in general are a good upgrade with a digital scale to 0.1 grams or 0.01 grams and some aluminum foil to add weight if needed to match the RPMs you want to get with a small engine inductive tachometer for about $15 wrapped around the spark plug wire. It sure was a pain to get the tools and knowledge to get to the variator. Just warn people if they don't install the belt properly with the variator nut tightened, they can damage the splines on the crankshaft, which is really really expensive to fix if worn through.
I would use that and any other lubricant you use in the transmission case very sparingly...if at all! When the teflon migrates onto the belt and clutch pads it isn't going to do anything good. I have never seen any manufacturer suggest this.
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Perfect video for what I need. I purchased 18 mm x 14 mm by 15 g for a 161QMK engine. My question is the weight?
Great idea with the dry lube, I’m gonna do that on my wife’s and I bikes. 😊👊
It’s details like this, that builds a great rapport with your clientele. I know first hand previously being self employed and as client. Keep up the good work my friend. 😊👊
Hello. What weight dr pulley sliders do you recommend for Honda zoomer / ruckus 2007 polini variator? top speed would be the target rather than acceleration. Thanks in advance
Hey Mitch thanks. If possible please provide some instructions on this particular model Burgman 400. Up to model 2022. Change of Oil, Filter, Breaks, etc. Thanks you.
You know you've made an excellent instructional video when even I can understand the lesson.
So dry lube doesn't splash inside the casing?
Did use dr Pulley, now I am using Techpulley (on a yamaha Xmax) not rolling over like 1 drpulley slider did.
I have a 2006 burgman 400 I need the sliders or rollers what would you suggest the tech or doctor pulley
What size rollers honda pcx 125 2021 ? 20x15 or 20x14,6
how many grams do you recommend?
Hello,
Thank you very much for this very educational video.
Question: since my belt broke, then replaced, my Piaggio MP3 300 (2011) has a lot of trouble starting. When it starts, it works fine, but I can stall at idle and come in pushing!
Do you have any ideas?
it's good to spray lubricant but didn't clean the dust particles from the housing....
Good video as always! Thanks a lot. Make the Dr pulley sliders in the stock variator a lot of difference? Ingrease it the acceleration and also top speed?
Anytime Nick! Yes it makes difference... smooth acceleration, lower RPM at high speed :)
Thank you brother for the help. I installed it wrong and now my scooter doesn't even go 75km which before goes 105kmpl. Now i will do it the right way
What is the difference between rollers and sliders? What ones are better for a 2002 zuma 50?
Just buy a stage 1 pulley as it doesn’t have limiter at the edge where roller weights are placed. This compensates the limit of stock driver pulley as it does not open fully, limiting the top speed
Edit: dr pulley sliders are applicable only on stock driver pulley. If used in a racing pulley, it will stock up between backplate and driver pulley.
@romeomaindan9982 thank you I have a completely built 2002 zuma big bore 70cc new clutch new front pully new carb and intake new reeds different final drive gear the whole shebang really need help tuning it if ur willing to help me I will send the real parts list ,,,name size etc,,,its a gift for my son for when he turns 15 that's in December,,,he rides his stock zuma now I just think I'm a lil off on my tune,,carb n roller weights plz help ihave $2500 in engine and tranny ty
I saw on another video where they used powdered graphite for the dry lube so I wondered which was best. TH-cam has another video comparing the Blaster Dry Lube and the Blaster GRAPHITE Dry Lube. They said that the regular dry lube is easily removed whereas the Graphite Dry Lube has to be removed with alcohol or mineral spirits. Makes me think that perhaps the Graphite stuff might be better?
Hey Mitch I haven't commented in a while but thanks for the nice informative video as always 👍, that Blaster Dry Lube is exactly what I used when I installed a new variator, clutch, belt, and Dr. pulley sliders 4 years ago on my Helix. I haven't gone too many miles since then but I'm thinking about doing an inspection and reassembly of the CVT during the cold winter months here on the east coast just to be ready and reliable for any future rides.
Will this product work as well? CRC Dry Molly Lube. ?
Can I use WD40 Dry Lubr sir? Cause I can't buy this brand in my country. Thanks
Q tal broo , tu sabes a sucede si le pongo unos variadores un poquito mS chicos a una motoeta? Tengo una suzuki an 125 y trae variadores de 10 gramos originales, no he he encontrado unos más ligeros , y los de la bws 100 son más ligeros de 7 gramos , pensaba cambiarlos pero no se q suceda si lo hago . saludos !!
Muchas gracias.Muy bien explicado y con el detalle de la imagen, perfecto 👏👏
Does it need to have teflon? yes or no?
Hey Mitch great videos I’ve watched many in my project piaggio fly. Sadly I’m stumped and can’t find any details as to why my rear brake light / running light doesn’t function as intended / running light stays on: Brake light doesn’t trigger when brakes are applied. Both brake compress buttons have also been replaced wth new. Any help is appreciated !
Hi, thank you for the dry lubrication information.
Any time!
Would doing this slider upgrade and a new belt (stock or aftermarket?) help top end speed? I currently hit 32 mph and feels like I’m hitting a speed limiter, pulsates faster to slow then faster again. I’m hoping this might help fix it?
Ruckus does way more than 32mph stock. You must have some problem.
Hello Mitch, I’m following you because I think your videos are very helpful, however, I’m confused about one thing, I have an lovely Piaggio Vespa LX125 but but it starts hard and doesn't accelerate quickly... what should I do? should I change the transmission belt? and regarding the rollers, what weight should I fit to have a faster acceleration?
Thank you in advance for all your support! You’re a great guy! Keep up the great work!
Lighter weights less centrifugal force higher revs mor accel heavier weights less centrifugal force needed to move them up the ramp more top speed less acceleration hard starts no acceleration can be coil going bad spark plug going bad make sure everything is connected and that you changed the gear oil and engine oil cleaned the air filter 1 to 2 main jet sizes will make it start faster
whats the name of the dry lubricant ?
Link in description
that’s interesting, I wonder if it would be OK to do that in a GY6 engine because I was thinking about doing different upgrades to the CVT system for a little bit more performance without engine mods because I don’t wanna wreck the motor
Does anyone know the size of these rollers
All scooters have different size of rollers / sliders and weights... nothing same ..... this video is just about how to install the sliders. You will have to look up on your scooter model what size it uses
@@MitchsScooterStuff thanks for the response, it's a stock ruckus 2007. Will open it up and check. Thanks again.
Hey! I have tried out the Dr Pulleys a bit. My conclusion was that in a stock variators they are superior over rollers. In highly developed variators like Polini and Malossi it did not work so good. The Malossi could not gear up fully, the belt did nog go up all the way. On the Polini it got a bump in the middle, like shifting a gear, not as stepless as a variator should be. However, the plastic Dr. uses are really good quality. Do they also make rounds in same material? The scooters I tried on was 2 different "50cc+" engines, one GY6 and one water cooled 2-stroke. I also tried cheap knock-offs, the shape was identical but the material was not close to as good.
The dry lube you use seems interesting. I need to try that. The brand you are using are hard to get here in sweden. Will any dry lube work better than nothing?
Сухая смазка не нужна.
@@dmitrijdenisov8882 возможно, с женой 😉
How much price
In your previous videos you talked about simply cleaning out grease and putting sliders in dry. What made you change to using dry lube now?
Hey Ben, I use dry lube in my burgman 400 for many years but I know I didn't show dry lube in every videos.. not a big deal but I suggest to use dry lube that helps moving smooth with less friction wear
Hello everyone, i want to increase the performance of my motorcycle a little more, I ordered dr Pulley performance roller and original bando strap. While the original rollers were 13gr, I bought a 12gr performance roller to speed up the takeoff. While the original size of the strap was 721x18.5x30, I mistakenly ordered a 722x18.5x30 strap. After installing the new 722x18.5x30 belt and performance rollers, the engine started to run very jerkily and its performance decreased compared to its original state.
Let's get to the real question, I don't think I will have any problems due to the performance rollers because everyone who uses these rollers states that the performance has improved significantly and the engine runs more stable. It even saves fuel. Could using 722 belt instead of 721 make the engine more jerky and cause a decrease in performance?
Sorry if there is any wrong wording, I wrote it using Google translate.
Why not wipe dirt off first? Kind of like wet sanding.
Hi Mitch. Learned a lot from you videos. I know that you're very detail oriented. But I've noticed and others have pointed out that the link you shared is a different spray, than the spray you used on your bike.
Is copper paste used ın ınstallatıon ?
no
great idea
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Dr pulley sliders will be installed without any grease because the materials of the sliders have its own sliding Material
Yes but I do extra, I have sliders still in great shape over 35,000 miles doing this method
@@MitchsScooterStuff yes I am from Germany I also order the Dr pulley weights now for my scooter I will try them are they better then the original rolls ????
He used dry lube, not grease.
@@nastroazzuro82it open and closes more the driver pulley compared to conventional roller weights. Can potentially increase torque and top speed
Bro fi i put roller dr pulley it’s damage engine
Top speed ?
Just depend on scooter model and weights… heavier = higher top speed, lighter = faster acceleration…
Thanks!
Привет из России!!Спасибо за обучение.
Next video will be how to do burn outs 💨
HAHAHAHAHA I will when I need to replace the tire ;-)
Wtf. My pcx 125 rollers and rubbersliders are dear after 6000km
Chất bôi trơn khô đó là ji.
mỡ bò dạng khô - dầu nhờn khô tiếng anh gọi là Dry Lube
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do not fit these on a chinese scooter ,they will damage your crank and cause it to fail in under a year .i speak from experience .after fitting these on my chinese 125 4 stroke scooter ,it buggered up 2 crankshafts . going back to rollers on my 3rd crankshaft .no problem at all . im sure they will work great on japanese bikes ,but on the chinese gy6 copies .they will effect the lifespan of your crankshaft .
Wow good to know... that's crazy... I have sliders in my Yamaha, honda, Suzuki, piaggio, vespa over 15 years with ton of miles, no issues... strange about Chinese's
Sounds like you didn't do your research and used weights that were too light if stock is 5gram roller weights you have to add a gram when switch to slider weights or you will Wind out your engine by rev ing too high especially if you also have a cdi that removes the rev limiter
Thank you!
You're welcome!