The BIG PROBLEM with The Mandalorian Season 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2025
- Star Wars The Mandalorian Season 3 trailer just released and the season is right around the corner. There is a big issue for me when it comes to this season even existing... I explain why.
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Who’s hyped for the mandalorian trailer tonight?
Me!
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I personally like the mandalorian better than the new movies
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I am. This year, I will watch only a limited amount of Star Wars. Didn’t see the Bad Batch season 2
“Grogu was always in constant danger.”
I think this may take the Centerstage in Season 3. Grogu has now become a powerhouse of the Force. I think now, the two may rely on each other and Grogu will end up looking after Din. I have no doubt of that.
I can agree to that. Maybe grogu dies lol
There is nothing about the end of season 2 that says Grogu has become a powerhouse in the Force. He's had very little training, hasn't made his own Saber, hasn't passed the Trials; he should have rudimentary force skills but not much.
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I’m referring to BOBF
I think you could say perhaps grogu sensed danger towards din and wanted to join him in battle; after all we don’t know much of the species let alone what powers grogu has. He could have the ability to see into the future like Anakin before his fight with obi-wan.
the biggest way what they did makes sense is if the Darksaber is destined for grogus hands
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I’d have wished they’d had no more Mandalorian, but not no more Din.
His story should’ve been done, but in the world, Din is still alive, still useful, and still needs to make money. He could’ve been a supporting character, a party member, a dnd fighter in space.
I agree with this.
It is a problem, as you outlined. Disney will double down on the problem by tying the series we love with the trilogy we hate. I am not optimistic. I wish they did end the series at season #2.
The Mandalorian was never meant to be "the story of Dinn and Grogu"
The Mandalorian isn't a singular person. Favreau said that a long time ago.
But I understand what you would rather the show did. There's nothing wrong with that.
It sounds like you should be the writer of Season 3.
Just because Grogu made his choice doesn't mean that he can't change his mind. Luke gave him the freedom of choice. I think this is often missed in these theory videos.
I think the problem is he gave him an A or B option. No in between. I would’ve preferred Luke work with Grogu, but also allow him to see Din Djarin and keep that bond.
@Palpamemes He didn't need a C option. In my mind, Grogu did the similar thing that Luke did with Yoda. And Luke new this. The story isn't over, I envision Grogu seeing a friend/friends in danger and he needs to protect them before he can continue his training, with whoever that will be.
Sometimes it isn't about what we saw in the show but what we didn't see.
Really loved this video, Palps. Cathartic af to watch. I'm still gonna watch the new season, but the heart of the story ended in season 2
Thank you my friend. I’m still excited for 3, but yea…season 2 really felt like a good close off.
My best guess is thst knowing how this particularly star wars timeline ends the creators thought probably besides more money is that grogu would be killed off by kylo so instead they put him back with mando to avoid that fate.
This wasn't really a issue in the legends time-line but it's definitely annoying to deal with how Luke utterly and completely fails in this timeline.
I’m really hoping there’s something more to Luke sending Grogu back alone. Like there was an attack or something and Luke sent him with R2 to keep him safe even if it puts him in danger still he at least could be with Dinn to protect him.
I never believed Luke sent him back...Grogu connived R2 to take him to Tatooine ...just my take....
I like to think that.
I agree. They should have kept Grogu and Mando separate for a while, to reunite later, like at the end of Season 3. They could have even done a Luke show or Grogu show. Split it into two shows. Obviously, the deepfake stuff is difficult. What they could (and should) have done is make an ANIMATED New Republic show about Luke Han & Leia rebuilding the Republic and Luke rebuilding the Jedi. And Grogu can show up in that. It wouldn't be the first animated Star Wars show to share canon with the live action stuff.
@Palpamemes What if there is a new villain (like say Grogu's survived master that wasn't in the flashback in Book of Boba Fett) or Bo Katan had kidnapped Grogu in Chapter 17 as threatening Din to stop what he is going to do and Din wanted to stop the villain and he rescued Grogu at in Chapter 25 to give the complete separation for one season we needed to see. And also, I did get some ideas from watching The Bad Batch (like Hunter watched Cut and Omega after Omega encountered a Nexu experienced what family does) on how to make Din a good father than he had in The Book of Boba Fett had (and plus some aspects of the two previous seasons as well) and run into a father character that is a better father than Din was and he might learn from him so that he might be better to Grogu than he was.
Another problem is that, I did hear Alex from Star Wars Explained when he answered my question from the Q&A about his thoughts on LucasFilms should have a recap from The Book of Boba Fett in The Mandalorian Season 3 to give the audience who skipped Book of Boba Fett or haven't completed watched it to give audience to finish watching The Book of Boba Fett and he did mentioned that yes, they should do that. He did mention that some people he knew that haven't fully completed watching the Book of Boba Fett yet and wanted to watch Mandalorian Season 3 that he did tell them that to finish watching Book of Boba Fett before watching Season 3 since they are going to miss out on the important stuff that was covered from The Book of Boba Fett. If there is no recaps from The Book of Boba Fett in The Mandalorian Season 3 that be so confused.
Also another problem that I saw some toxic fans complained about how Gina Carano was taken out of the future seasons after Mandalorian Season 2 was finished due to the Gina Carano Twitter Controversy and had to make Cara Dune not appear in future Star Wars projects, so if there was any mentions of Cara Dune was killed off screen or have a body double to not show Cara Dune's face when she was killed by the new villain (or Bo Katan) similar to like how Egon Spengler was handled in Ghostbusters Afterlife due to Harold Ramis died in 2014 and had to use a body double to make Egon Spengler got killed in the opening scene. Do you think that would cause review bombs for the Rotten Tomato ratings for Season 3? I do think Cara Dune should be killed off in The Mandalorian Season 3 to let Din know what happened to Cara Dune.
Luke sent Grogu back with R2. There is no one who he could be in better hands with than R2.
I agree that BOBF undoing season 2’s departure being bad was valid. However, I think that a lot of the other stuff in here is an L. Luke eventually becomes another embodiment of what’s wrong with the Jedi Order by the time of the sequel trilogy as we see from how his order and Ben’s training went. I think Din and Grogu need to grow together and realize that both the Mandalorian (Din’s sect of it) and the Jedi are broken cults that have many problems. It was also not big brain to have a “based off the trailers” statement on the day a new trailer was coming out.
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Sorry to do this to you for my comment after the first time watching a video of yours, but I have a tendency to write big comments.
My biggest issue is that all of this is in Book of Boba Fett, not that it changes the trajectory of the shows and the arcs of the characters. We get to see how much Din is hurting without Grogu because he's doubling down on bounty hunting, he's fighting more violently than ever, he's trying to push past his feelings and trying his best to forget Grogu. That's great. He is unbalanced and it makes fighting with the Darksaber difficult, he confronts the Children of the Watch, and now he's super alone. That's great. He gets a new ship and customizes it to his liking, and there's a spark of joy because he's doing something more constructive and it's going to allow him to meet up with Grogu once more. That's great. Even the training session with Luke, and even Luke presenting the lifestyle choice to Grogu is perfectly fine to me. The issue though is that it is all in Book of Boba Fett, regardless of if it takes focus away from Boba Fett in his own show, even if that is pretty messy. If someone were to just watch The Mandalorian, and we still don't know how this will play out, but someone could go from Season 2 to Season 3 and completely miss an essential part of the story. It's very MCU, which feels wrong for Star Wars.
I don't mind having multiple shows all taking place around the same time and even having some crossover in between, that can be very fun, but now you have to watch Book of Boba Fett in the middle of watching The Mandalorian for key information for the rest of the show. It's like how all the context for the Sequel Trilogy was in supplemental material and novelizations. That's not how movies should work. That's also not how shows should work either unless you're dealing with a sequel series that can rely on previous information, not spinoffs running concurrently.
Having Mando show up in Book of Boba Fett is awesome, even having him appear in just the finale would have been pretty cool. You can show him on the job at the butchery, arriving to Tatooine, have your hi's and hello's, Fennec asks for his assistance, but he says, "I'll be right back," and we even see that he has the chainmail shirt and a new ship. Those in the know can speculate what happened and what he's gonna do, but we're left with some questions. Then in the next episode, we see the battle getting a bit intense for Boba and his crew but there's a lull as both sides regroup, Mando returns, gets the citizens of Mos Pelgo to join the fight, and then they do near everything in the Finale that we saw. You've established that this silver Mandalorian in Boba Fett is pretty lethal, he'd be a great asset, and hey, turns out he also knows some friends, that's nice, but none of the stuff in The Mandalorian is actually crucial for the story in The Book of Boba Fett to play out, they did that for characters like Black Krrsantan, and he originally showed up in comics that I never read, and even Cobb Vanth in The Mandalorian, and he was a rando from a book I never read either, so it's not impossible to do.
The audience is left wondering what happened in the time we missed with Mando, but that's where the first three or so episodes of Mando Season 3 come in. We see another job showing just how bad Mando has gotten, and then his cult reject him. We see him go to Tatooine and make a new ship and then visit Grogu training with Luke. Then after that, have Mando in the middle of dealing with Bo-Katan and an X-Wing with Grogu appears. The episodes fill the gaps in the story for those that saw Book of Boba Fett, just like how Book of Boba Fett filled the gaps in his story after we saw him just show up in Season 2 of Mando, however neither show would be crucial to understand the story of the other, which is very keeping with Star Wars. The Clone Wars is a wholely inconsequential series as far as the main movies are concerned, but they add extra context and make things all the better for those that want to explore more, and that's where The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett failed one another.
I'm not entirely sure you absolutely needed to see The Mandalorian in order to watch Boba's part of the story in The Book of Boba Fett, I'm still in the middle of Season 1 of Mando for a rewatch to Season 3, but I think the only thing that's probably crucial is the one episode of Mando which finally reveals Boba Fett's return. I don't recall if they show him getting his armor back between all the flashbacks, but since that's a big storytelling device in The Book of Boba Fett, you use it to show him track down The Mandalorian, how he tracked Mando to Tython, getting his armor, maybe even showing the same scenes beating up the Stormtroopers and showing his chain code, you could show him repainting his armor, but then you go back to the present day, we don't need to follow up on everything else from Mando Season 2. That would surely fill an episode or something, I don't know, but more work could have been done to separate the two shows, or at least provide all the needed context so that it wasn't like having to do homework to enjoy a show by itself. Boba Fett already has all the baggage of the movies to fall back on, which is standard for the hierarchy of storytelling in Star Wars, he also doesn't need The Mandalorian's show, too, and vice versa.
This goes for all the other shows we know will be coming out, too. Ahsoka's going to have Rebels baggage and who knows what else in it. I have no doubt there will be a Season 4 of Mando, and it shouldn't have to rely on Ahsoka, too, although it sounds like we are leading to a big Defenders type crossover with Mando, Boba, Ahsoka, and Skeleton Crew and whatever else they have planned, although probably all as the Finale to whatever Mano's last Season will be since he started it all. But it's not like streaming services separate the shows by Season and interweave them all like you can with Blu-ray box sets, so you run the risk of confusing the audience that arrives late and needs a friend that was there to guide them or anyone who doesn't want to watch five different shows just to get a complete story.
Sounds like a sound observation. it idid happen rather quickly, on the run and wihtout much ado amd in someone else’s story so yeah. like the show, but let’s hope the hype pays off.
I don't think the jedi of old woulda given the choice Luke gave to Grogu. Even if Grogu did choose to be a jedi, it's not like Luke would completely forbid him from seeing Din again. Grogu would just spend more time training with Luke.
Luke, before Disney, would have known how important being attached to family and friends are and so would have been more willing to have Din visit Grogu during the training. Din might not have that much time to visit, but he would not have had Grogu make this choice. This choice basically boiled down to either me (Luke) or the Mando, which is a pretty black or white choice.
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This is my thoughts exactly, I would've preferred we see grogu never again after S2, and seeing Luke give that choice honestly feels like more character assassin than last jedi did, in that, Luke did it out of love for his friends and out of his own decision on what's right, in Mando S2, he's literally repeating the same robotic cult like mistakes of the old jedi to blindly follow rules that that make no sense that lead directly to the creation of Darth Vader, you'd think he would make changes to the order after learning what happened to the old one.
I actually really don’t have a major qualm with Grogu coming back. I felt that the Mandalorian’s chemistry and heart came from having Din and Grogu grow together. It would have been much better if Grogu returned within Season 3 itself (mainly because I felt that having Luke in the Book of Boba Fett felt like an eyesore), but I think that having Grogu back works since it does solidify that Grogu has other ways to find a new purpose in life than just through the Jedi, and this gives Din some additional purpose. And we don’t have to worry about Grogu being stuck with Luke during the fall of his temple.
Regardless, I’m absolutely excited to return to the Mandalorian again! After just not feeling it all the way with Andor (except for the second half), I’m just happy to have more action and adventure with Din Djarin again.
there will be no talking when moff gideon is on screen.
I think Grogu in S3 will reconsider his choice about being with Din. Grogu will meet a lot of others Mandalorians and probably he gonna cold out towards Din. That’s how I see it.
I disagree. Mandalorian is just as big of a mess as the Sequel trilogy