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- Hades 2 has 5 weapons and 15 total aspects currently in early access, today I rank them in a tier list to talk about which one is the best based on my experiences.
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HADES 2 Early Access Patch 2 Changed a *LOT* of balance, this Tier list reflects the state as of Patch 1 and is *NOT* fully accurate for the state of the game. But as the video revolves solely around my opinion and talks about my experiences with the game I'm going to leave it up.
I've updated the title to "My Hades 2 Early Access Patch 1 Weapon Tier List (opinion)" to properly reflect this.
The aspect of Artemis is actually very good, that 50% crit chance is insane
It definitely does a lot of damage when you manage to pull it off, but I often ended up taking a lot of damage trying to set up my Riposte or worse yet missing more agile enemies like Chronos when trying to land the omega attack after. Artemis is one of those "it's really strong, but I'm not good at using it" sort of aspects, hence my disclaimer at the start that this tier list is not about the power of each aspect, but my own success with them.
@Tenkiei you get one sec of immunity after parrying it, so I like to run into attacks and then dash as soon as I get hit
This is probably just because I'm old and slow but I often found myself getting hit by a followup attack from Chronos after parrying the first, because I ended up just outside the 1 second window. Or worse I miss with the Omega attack :(
@@Tenkiei I believe the omega attacking missing was a bug that is now fixed? Could be wrong tho ig
I did see something about that in the patch notes, but TBH I haven't tested it much since the patch because I was pretty frustrated with the aspect based on my early experience and moved on to playing other things I found cool like Eos on the Wands and Persephone on the Skull.
With that in mind, I'll give it another shot. Who knows maybe it'll change my mind about the Aspect :).
Yup. Momus aspect carried me through 32 fear. The heal is so sick. The special damage us incredible. It's so safe.
i forgot it had a heal ability lol, special damage is more than enough
Same
I didn't like the Torches at first too. Then I fully upgraded Aspect of Mel and tried spamming Poseidon Omega Special with Born Gain. Easiest climb to 24 Fear. It's insanely strong and kills enemies so fast once you get a strong build going.
I think the umbral flames are polarizing but strong with certain setups. Hestia, Poseidon, arphodite are essential for that weapon. The skull and umbral flames definitely need some tuning overall
Yeah I've noticed the response to that one being very polarized. Lots of people who insist they're OP and people just aren't playing them right, and lots who insist they're unplayably bad.
Like with most things the truth lies somewhere in the middle, they've got their issues and could use some balance love but you can make them work, especially Eos IMO.
YESS! I was waiting for this!
Probably one of the most fun builds I've had was torches with Zeus special, Aphrodite dash and their duo boon. Just dashing around with 6 flames popping blitz everywhere, was hilarious. Also had zeus hestia duo on top of that for some extra spice.
Used to absolutely hate the torches as well, but I've started to really enjoy them once I stopped using the attack for anything other than applying double status effect.
It’s “muh-lin-o-ee”
Great video! I really appreciate this because finding the mats takes awhile to upgrade and unlock everything. I wanted to ask, what does feeding the familiars do? There's an option to give them treats.
It levels up their abilities (the bonuses they grant). For example Frinos to get +10 hp.
@@Tenkiei Thanks
Nice vid as always, glad you are enjoying this masterpiece of a game!
It's been great, in fact my review of the game (in its early access state) should be out tomorrow. I've been a fan of everything Supergiant has done since Bastion so this was very much on my list of stuff I'm waiting for.
@@Tenkiei I only jumped on with Hades 1, but that one is in my top 10 of all time probably. Amazing to see how they have topped it even more now! Looking forward to the review.
Keep up the good work, always love the content!
I strongly recommend going back to play their early games, each offers a unique gameplay experience. (Though Bastion does play a bit like Hades 1).
@@Tenkiei I will take your word for it and put them on my list! Tho I don't know in what way the list will ever get 'unlisted' lol
You think there will be eventual DLC where you get the original weapons? I really miss the knuckles and the shield
Or any weapon that you can actually melee with without being instant killed
As long as you have the slo-mo card it's kind of hard to mess up with Artemis even if you wanted to. I also really hated umbral flames, but I did have one special charge build that took down bosses faster than most of the builds I have run so far. Unfortunately it sucked for Chronos as I had no faster charge hammer and relied heavily on the slo-mo card. I also healed after every counter so taking a few hits because they didn't flinch didn't matter.
Chronos --- especially on higher fear is where I always struggled with Artemis/Melinoe.
The highest power level I've ever had was the Aspect of Charon Axe, but it was a hyper-specific build with the Posideon/Hephaestus duo boon as its lynchpin.
I feel like the A-tier rating is warranted even though I'm sure nothing else comes even close in the raw damage department.
Great list :) fantastic game.
i actually really enjoy Torches of melinoe. Demeter cast + Poseidon special, and just spam omega specials in melee range
Honestly I had a bit of an epiphany, after reading your comment I went back to do another run. Keep in mind I've always struggled on the torches, but I took Demeter's Keepsake and originally went into it trying to get the cast for CC then to grab the special from Poseidon in Oceanus.
Instead I was offered an Epic Demeter special which I rarified to heroic and picked up Crushing Comet later in the run. Then I ended up clearing Chronos on Fear 16 pretty easily. Weighing that against my previous runs, I've probably overestimated Eos and underestimated Melinoe, while Eos has higher damage potential if you play well, Melinoe is definitely easier if you get solid CC to prevent enemies from hitting you while you're spamming the special.
Thank god you specified this was an opinion.
nice video. sister blades are my favorite weapon by far! everyone says the axe is the best but i suck with it i feel like it leaves you too exposed
I feel like the axe can be A tier at clearing 95% of the game but is D tier against Chronos...
I was having a lot of trouble getting through 16 fear until I took off the timer vow. Now I'm not only close to 32 fear but am having a lot more fun playing the game despite the difficulty. I dont know how anyone can get through high fears with the timer. Channeling takes time, less boons to get, enemies are faster stronger with more hp, areas are bigger. I just don't see how its feasible as it was in the original game.
Nah aspect of Artemis goes insanely hard. Slap a boon of Aphrodite and some hammer upgrades and you can decimate bosses in mere seconds.
Specially if you get some omega attack enhancements (the hammer upgrade that also gives it extra range, that one demeter boon, etc). I've seen that thing delete half of a boss's healthbar in a single strike.
All while giving you a free block against hard to dodge attacks. It's insane.
Putting aspect of Melinoe daggers in B when you can run flutterstrike backstab build is a wild take.
Prolly one of the top 5 builds In the game.
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@@Tenkiei super fair.
@@Tenkieimega Chad response lol
I've beaten 32 with every aspect now, so I wanted to give my notes-
Staff is the best weapon in the game bar none. It is able to take any boon and use it effectively. Momus is by far the strongest of the aspects, but every aspect belongs in either a or s by virtue of the base weapon its attached to.
Artemis aspect is the same tier as pan aspect. Landing parries is not hard, the amount of damage it gives for it is absurd.
The axe is worthless and I have no clue what you're on by calling the weapon strong. Charon aspect is fine, but the weapon is dangerous to use, low mobility, and doesn't deal nearly enough damage to beat timer.
Skull is extremely fun. The issue however is that the damage uptime is far too low and it is is a liability when it comes to timer. You have to wait a solid second between skull drops and you need to have a solid mana plan to make special spam work. It's lines to victory are too narrow for me to put it higher than b.
Torches are just awful. You need perfect rng to make it work. And with tight deadline active (oath of desperation i think?) perfect rng Is. Not. Enough. I have had a build with poseidon attack, support fire, a high level chain lightning, aphro flat damage, and Zeus min damage all stacking on top of each other, and it still was not enough damage to beat timer. It does not deal damage. It needs buffs.
When it comes to torches, skull, and axe, the easiest time i had was fishing for hestia cast and having that be my main damage line.
My suggestion for this topic is either explain the effects of the Aspects in the vid, or list them in your remarks. I have put in few hours, but I can tell you that I dont remember all of the names and specifics.
I'll definitely keep that in mind for next time, thanks.
Aspect of moros with aphro attack is absurd with the blasts. Just pop your special every few seconds and hold attack. I could not get eos to work properly based on how i dash around
It's the holding attack which always trips me up on the Umbral Flames. I think that's why I've had so much success with Eos, I can hold my attack for a little bit then interrupt it with a dash and sprint a way, pulling the projectiles back through enemies.
You definitely need an attack boost like Poseidon or Aphrodite on them though.
@@Tenkiei i use mouse and keyboard so its probably easier for me to hold down attack. Im so used to dashing to the side of the enemy cause some attacks stretch out far
Honestly, I didn't think about the fact that playing on controller could be why I dislike the wands so much. I ended up preferring the movement on controller vs awkwardly holding down multiple arrow keys at once, but it does limit aiming in comparison to keyboard/mouse.
Gotta say I’m shocked you rated the Melinoe skull so low. Easily my second most reliable weapon- WAY more damaging than either of the other skull aspects, and never felt awkward to me- unlike the punch skull. Cant stand that one. But hey, that’s the best part of the game right? These weapons are all so different that there’s no real WRONG way to build!
Exactly, people are clearing Heat 32+ with all the weapons, even those that are C/D tier on my list. I'm sure there's a point where only the objectively strongest weapons matters, but for most content everything is viable so it's more about what you like vs what is best. Which is why this tier list is about my opinion/personal success, and nothing more.
I think Artemis is an easy s I have pulled off 3k plus damage in one hit consistently
Momus is basically Rama from Hades
I think you mean Pan? Like you’re comparing the arrow targeting of the dagger aspect with the bow?
@@hyperbash yeah u could say that. I just see Momus and Rama as weapons that don't require much efforts to put out a lot of DMG. Don't get me wrong, u still need to try ur best doing 32 or higher fears.
Gotcha. You’re comparing how OP the aspect is and I was thinking about how similar the mechanics feel
ranged casts are so op
I like ranged casts some of the time, but not always. If I'm playing a close-range build or using the Zeus cast I definitely prefer melee cast. But if I'm playing a safety focused build like Charon Cleave-Cast, or Momus on the staff then having a ranged Cast is awesome, especially the Hades one which sticks to enemies.
⬇ Moonstone Axe gang 🔥
The flames suck.
I’m honestly glad most people hate the wands /can’t play them because I find they’re too OP + it means more buffs are coming 😈
Aspect of Charion is S tier imo. Its so consistant and its really not that bad to hit Chronos with it. Plus being able to be safe most of the time with the shield is bonkers. I will say it becomes alot easier with the Hammer upgrade to increase the speed of the special channel, but doesnt spot the build without it like Momus without the double special. Other than that this has the best god pool in the game as most the duos synergise with it in some way. Give it another shot, was my weapon of choice for 32.
I really hope they completely rework the skull. Wish they could find a way to bring back the bow, shield and spear from the first game too
I personally would hate if they brought back any weapons from the first game, and the general opinion I've seen agrees. All the new weapons feel so fresh, and I have zero interest in using the old weapons. If I want to use the old weapons, I could go play hades 1.
Also the skulls are so fun, definitely the most interesting weapon they've added. The key to make it work is using the special or the omega special to retrieve the skulls, not just running in. Aspect of medea is by far the funnest aspect in the game right now, I just wish they specified that it erupts early if you special into an enemy, the playstyle of charging an attack and specialing into an enemy, then repeating over and over again to pick up previous skulls is so fun. Super high dps