I would also be correct if I got Blood Moon Ursaluna in the same list as 9 other things that do not come remotely close in a popularity contest. Though I admit him recognising Swampert is more popular than Incineroar or Lapras is very good.
@@darkhorseash4337 I personally think highly of chandelure. it has like the 3rd-to-5th highest sp atk out of all fire-type pokemon and ghost-type pokemon; highest if you don't count megas and legendaries. both of those types also have an iconic, decent power special atk that chandelure can learn (flamethrower and shadow ball respectively). And that's honestly enough as far as I'm concerned. I don't play competitively so I just like spamming the same atk and one shotting stuff in story mode. can't say how many other people see it my way though
2:59 there’s no way I could see people hating psyduck. He’s so cute and funny. Of course, barely anyone would choose to use it in an actual Pokémon battle though
2:05 Blastoise had a lower percentage than Arcanine which actually makes Blastoise the least disliked on the list 3:50 at least Vinny corrected Pat on this one bc Krookodile is def lower than Zorua there
The thing is, they are thinking with a competitive mindset. They are taking into account a pokemon's viability in battle, but your average player doesn't do that when thinking of their favorite pokemon.
@@xxmagfracerxx4697my dude, pokemon is older than you. Your opinion shouldn't even count. Also, people that have been there since gen1 hold nostalgia for pokemon up to gen4. Gen5 is where the company started to go sideways.
@@palkys. Ew, gross, don't gatekeep. Their opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, regardless of when they started playing. You can't just negate someone's opinion because they weren't BORN early enough. Damn.
Mostly because the Dad's mentioned it in their stream, it's amazing to step back and look at how much better Vinny is as a battler these days :) He's a legit honest challenge. He still has moments, but he's much better at utilizing his teams.
These votes really went to show how much people have switched up on Gen 5. While it has some bad mons, when it shines, it SHINES. (Ngl tho, Kommo-o beating out Blastoise and Milotic shocked me)
Vinny really has improved his battling 100x since he started battling more. He made 4 or 5 calls during those battles that are stuff you would do during VGC competitions.
44:13 Such a ominous laugh from Vinny, and the background music is so fitting, it plays during the Nightmare King boss fight in Hollow Knight, if I'm not mistaken
So *that's* how that chandelure plush ended up back there...also I noticed that when Vinny build his mons he rips the sets straight off smogon without accounting for ability changes, like investing Incineroar purely in SpDef (since it normally gets intimidate) and giving Clawitzer Water Pulse instead of Surf (since no Mega Launcher). Also 24:10 ah yes, my favourite gimmick, tella sterar.
hehehe, I think the thing they missed in the first rounds is that unpopularity rarely has anything to do with how "good" the 'mon is, in the competitive sense XD
Yeah and also toxipex is such a good Pokémon??? It has merciless (not here obviously but usually) AND toxic spikes, it will single-handedly wipe out your entire team if you don’t have a poison or steel type
@@nabi7701 tbf, it might be up there for the coolest bug type but def not the best. It takes forever to evolve it and get a decent move set set up for it and it has a staggering 4X rock weakness along with many other weaknesses
Suggesting D&D Pokemon Team building: Each round you roll a different kind of dice to determine your Pokémon (D4, D6, D8, D10, D12, or D20), but you choose which round you use which die. The higher value dice have bigger rewards but also potential nerfs, while the D4 is simply left, center, right, or you choose.
If there's anything we've learned today, people do not like Hitmonlee. 18% of voters said he was their least favorite among Vinny's first round, 10% said he was their least favorite among Pat's second round, and only 4% said he was their favorite in Vinny's fourth round.
The hatred of Vullaby (for me) comes from Pokemon Go. Imagine, fighting 6 Rocket Grunts, 1 Boss, and then walking 12km for a frickin fried chick. The other choices from the very time consuming egg are: Larvitar Sandile Pawniard Deino Pancham Salandit Varoom I would happily take a Male Salandit over the stupid Vulture at this point, because I have hatched so many of these instead of ANYTHING else.
Tourny style concept I'd love to see play out: 4 people, each person takes turns distributing their starters to the other 3 players. 2 rounds. The twist? The first distributed pokemon gets a nerf, the 2nd is base, the 3rd is buffed.
The incredibly unfunny pokemon fan base already ran that "joke" to the ground in the span of 24 hours. What annoys me the most is that those were just folk tales like the one we have in the real world like what Zeus transformed into animals did.
Pat is kinda blind, he said the lowest voting one at the start was arcanine when it was actually blastoise, then in round 2, he said zorua was the least voted one when it was actually the kroko. Im just now starting to watch so he might commit more mistakes
28:29 As buggy and glitchy S&V were when they came out I really have to commend how good they made some of the Pokémon especially the older ones look. Forretres looks cleannnn man. Like it literally looks like he's getting himself polished every day
Ain't no way Vinny thought people like Hypno and Hitmonlee 😭 they're decent mons but the majority of people probably like mons based off design But I'm surprised Vinny didn't even consider Florigato, does he not know the memes around it?
You guys have to start taking into account not just the looks bias, but specifically the CUTE bias. Barrascuda is ugly! Smoliv is pretty cute and, like you yourself said, there's plushies of it. There's a reason why there are marketable plushies!
16:04 Chandelure has been voted multiple extremely highly , 2020 - top unovan pokemon , 2023 - top 3 in japan . Personally its my favorite Unovan Pokémon , crazy to me how you two were surprised
Yeah that Swampert round was a no brainer. Great design, fun shiny, good typing and a strong pokemon. There’s lots to love about Swampert and for good reason.
I do think that if Terapagos is "required" to have it's regular ability to be useful, the same should apply to Palafin. Might at least balance him out haha, but mostly it seems weird that one transformation by ability is allowed to have an extra ability while the other isn't. Just my thoughts! Great video by both of you!
This idea is so fun (mostly cause I got to vote and most of my opinions were widely shared) however, slight spin on it in the future. You both guess who the Most AND Least favorite is of 10 pokemon, if one player gets them both right they get the favorite (and maybe any ability?) and the other player gets the least favorite. If you tie 0-0,1-1 or 2-2 maybe you spin a wheel to see who gets which of the 10 pokemon or something like that.
Pat getting his hopes up so much for the confusion only for Vinny to rip it away was hysterical 😂
Vic could go up Yukon😮
It broke my heart seeing Pat's realization kick in 😂
That was peak comedy. But I feel bad for poor Pat.
That was cold 😂.
Ok what was more evil,
Tera fairy Giratina or this?
44:20 That was the most "teleports behind you - nothing personal kiddo" thing I've ever seen from Vinny
Vinnie COOKING this video, in both parts. Bro’s been training in the mountains or something
I heard a rumor that he has been taking boxing classes. Not sure if it's true.
I would also be correct if I got Blood Moon Ursaluna in the same list as 9 other things that do not come remotely close in a popularity contest. Though I admit him recognising Swampert is more popular than Incineroar or Lapras is very good.
Im kinda surprised you guys were surprised by chandelure and milotic, in my head those two are just very popular pokemon.
I think it was more that they were surprised they didn’t even consider it
In the least popular round there has been a litwick with the lowest percentage. Could habe been a giveaway.
Mitotic didn't surprise me but chandelure did
@@darkhorseash4337 I personally think highly of chandelure. it has like the 3rd-to-5th highest sp atk out of all fire-type pokemon and ghost-type pokemon; highest if you don't count megas and legendaries. both of those types also have an iconic, decent power special atk that chandelure can learn (flamethrower and shadow ball respectively). And that's honestly enough as far as I'm concerned. I don't play competitively so I just like spamming the same atk and one shotting stuff in story mode. can't say how many other people see it my way though
i mean Chandelure was up against Vaporeon and it’s weird fan base so it is kinda shocking lol
24:14 "Tella Stera" 😭 we love you pat
2:59 there’s no way I could see people hating psyduck. He’s so cute and funny. Of course, barely anyone would choose to use it in an actual Pokémon battle though
2:05 Blastoise had a lower percentage than Arcanine which actually makes Blastoise the least disliked on the list
3:50 at least Vinny corrected Pat on this one bc Krookodile is def lower than Zorua there
Came to say this lol
🤓☝
Yeah put some respect on my boi blasty
Hes from the UK he doesnt know percentages
@@Ultimatecheezie 🤡
2:21 the least voted was blastoise… not arcanine…
*sad blastoise noises*
I smell the bias here lol.
Oh that's why the thumbnail was hating on Squirtle
I realised that to and was about to comment about it too!
The arcanine bias is real
The fact that pat KNOWS bout hypno, and it was just flying over Vinny's sweet innocent brain 😂❤
"are we out of touch" No Pat, it's the children who are wrong
The thing is, they are thinking with a competitive mindset. They are taking into account a pokemon's viability in battle, but your average player doesn't do that when thinking of their favorite pokemon.
@@jerrywhite3808I think they all thought in a different way, so competitiveness, cuteness, coolness play a role
"The children", I'm 23 and I would agree on most of these rankings 😆 only ones who might not are those with a gen 1 bias out of nostalgia
@@xxmagfracerxx4697my dude, pokemon is older than you. Your opinion shouldn't even count.
Also, people that have been there since gen1 hold nostalgia for pokemon up to gen4. Gen5 is where the company started to go sideways.
@@palkys. Ew, gross, don't gatekeep. Their opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, regardless of when they started playing. You can't just negate someone's opinion because they weren't BORN early enough. Damn.
Mostly because the Dad's mentioned it in their stream, it's amazing to step back and look at how much better Vinny is as a battler these days :) He's a legit honest challenge. He still has moments, but he's much better at utilizing his teams.
2:15 actually it’s blastoise
Idk how anyone picked either tbh
Why is Blastoise so forgotten it never got a secondary type and it’s the least chosen starter for G1!
8:45 Vinny. hypno the child stealer?
I LOVE FORRETRESS!!!
An awesome battle as always Patterrz
Thank you!!
@@Patterrz You’re welcome! 😁
These votes really went to show how much people have switched up on Gen 5. While it has some bad mons, when it shines, it SHINES. (Ngl tho, Kommo-o beating out Blastoise and Milotic shocked me)
Vinny really has improved his battling 100x since he started battling more. He made 4 or 5 calls during those battles that are stuff you would do during VGC competitions.
I love that it ends with Vinny crushing Patterz' spirit.
Vinny absolutely BULLIED pat at the end there. Full villain arc
35:36 Pat! My dude! You gave Blaziken Vacuum Wave for situations like this!
he was choice scarfed anyway so outsped, tera blast would've killed I think
The throw is real
I checked the calcs Vacuum Wave kills XD and Terapagos is faster than Gardevoir...
@@astrel1275 Tera blast should still do more damage to whatever pokémon comes in next though
@@DeadvidDivide also true! Silly Pat. But we love it.
44:08 And this is when i remembered... This is not the same Cenzo from back in the day
THAT'S CRAAAAAZY 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What the hell?! Psyduck the least favorite?! How can you disrespect my boy like that?! 😭
No frrr
Genuinely surprised me, definitely thought he could pull through
44:13 Such a ominous laugh from Vinny, and the background music is so fitting, it plays during the Nightmare King boss fight in Hollow Knight, if I'm not mistaken
So *that's* how that chandelure plush ended up back there...also I noticed that when Vinny build his mons he rips the sets straight off smogon without accounting for ability changes, like investing Incineroar purely in SpDef (since it normally gets intimidate) and giving Clawitzer Water Pulse instead of Surf (since no Mega Launcher).
Also 24:10 ah yes, my favourite gimmick, tella sterar.
V create regigigas
He’s been doing that forever. He’s even ripped hacked mon sets without realizing it because he doesn’t want to put in the effort to look up movesets.
24:10 "Tellar sterra"
I thought that was its nickname for a sec
At least it wasn't "Hard-on" Engine again. 😂
hehehe, I think the thing they missed in the first rounds is that unpopularity rarely has anything to do with how "good" the 'mon is, in the competitive sense XD
Yeah it's more about if it's ugly or not. Barracuda is ugly. Psyduck is ugly and dumb. Hypno gives creeper vibes.
Just because he isn't good in an "and then we battle," doesn't mean you get to disrespect Chandelure like that.
Chandelure is a huge fan favorite. Not even a contest and they didn’t even consider it.
I’m also not mad that Swampert beat Incineroar.
0:26 is me realizing that patterz is an amazing artist
True
2:55 "Ugly bias" for toxipex is crazy, that thing is super effing cute
Yeah and also toxipex is such a good Pokémon??? It has merciless (not here obviously but usually) AND toxic spikes, it will single-handedly wipe out your entire team if you don’t have a poison or steel type
Anyone who has to deal with it can tell you it's ugly in its heart.
@@valzone Hate the player, not the g- Pokemon. Especially in singleplayer, toxipex is just a treat.
In all honesty, I don't actually mind it that much. It's just fun to dog on when talking about competitive.
Vinnie: "Volcarona over Swampert is actually a crime"
I love my lil swamp guy, but even still, I've never heard such an incorrect statement before
No incorrect statement there
Volcarona is easily in my top 5 best pokemon of all time list.
Definitely the best bug type ever made imo.
I’m sorry, Volcarona is what now?
@@nabi7701genesect is def the best.. but it’s alright. I respect your opinion.
@@nabi7701 tbf, it might be up there for the coolest bug type but def not the best. It takes forever to evolve it and get a decent move set set up for it and it has a staggering 4X rock weakness along with many other weaknesses
16:02 fun fact: chandelure has been top 3 most popular in japan for years
"Do we just run Vaporeon and just slap it in there"-patterz 2024 @15:35 brother the phrasing on that line lol
Squirtle?! Blastoise?! Patterz wtf man 😭😭😭
The background music, vinnys laugh and pats face when he realises. Priceless🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yo, Vinny giving that false sense of security was toxic, but funny as hellll 😂
Patterz is literally a chewtle why does he hate it
As a spewpa & vivilon lover, it’s nice to have some recognition Vinny
VInny's laugh at the end, was iconic
Yeah, the round with Chandelure was an easy pick for me. Dude is sick with it
Chandelure is goated, he looks super cool, has purple flames AND is strong. Absolutely an easy pick for that round as it has no downside
Suggesting D&D Pokemon Team building: Each round you roll a different kind of dice to determine your Pokémon (D4, D6, D8, D10, D12, or D20), but you choose which round you use which die. The higher value dice have bigger rewards but also potential nerfs, while the D4 is simply left, center, right, or you choose.
When you revealed the percentages of the first group blastoise had the lowest number of votes not arcanine
Patterz can't read, the glasses are just a look
@@nikolaibelinksi8220i think he’s just blinded by his doggo
Nah pat is just biased towards arcanine. its his fav mon
@@nikolaibelinksi8220❤ 3:39 wew😅 3:44 ewwŵk
If there's anything we've learned today, people do not like Hitmonlee. 18% of voters said he was their least favorite among Vinny's first round, 10% said he was their least favorite among Pat's second round, and only 4% said he was their favorite in Vinny's fourth round.
24:15 “tellar stera” says Pat
Vinny with his villain arc is amazing 10/10
16:09 let's heckin go one of my favorite pokemon getting the love they deserve!!
Yes bro same
Been having a pretty bad day and I'm really looking forward to this! Thank you so much for all the work you put into these
The hatred of Vullaby (for me) comes from Pokemon Go. Imagine, fighting 6 Rocket Grunts, 1 Boss, and then walking 12km for a frickin fried chick.
The other choices from the very time consuming egg are:
Larvitar
Sandile
Pawniard
Deino
Pancham
Salandit
Varoom
I would happily take a Male Salandit over the stupid Vulture at this point, because I have hatched so many of these instead of ANYTHING else.
Tourny style concept I'd love to see play out:
4 people, each person takes turns distributing their starters to the other 3 players. 2 rounds. The twist? The first distributed pokemon gets a nerf, the 2nd is base, the 3rd is buffed.
Barely remember when I voted, if only we knew the new information
Same
Vinny: “Think about all the people with Gengar tattoos”
Me: Looks down at my Gengar tattoo having been totally called out
I won’t take this Squirtle slander
It’s funny how people argue if CRAWdaunt is a crab or lobster when it’s definitely a CRAWfish 😂
Typhlosion is about to inherit this memes from Vaporeon.
Slaking better get the same treatment and share that love
The incredibly unfunny pokemon fan base already ran that "joke" to the ground in the span of 24 hours.
What annoys me the most is that those were just folk tales like the one we have in the real world like what Zeus transformed into animals did.
RealBreakingNate is having a mental breakdown knowing Psyduck is disliked by so many people.
9:45 SKRELP IS THE GOAT HOW DARE YOU
Love skrelp, looks like a seadragon
really enjoyed this format! it would also be fun to get a bonus on your pokemon if you guess the top 3 for the round :)
I saw chandelure from a mile away🤣 I would've voted for it too tbh
that ending was absolutely brutal and i love it
First Bulbasaur and now Squirtle are getting bullied . Thank you gifters for the gifted membership!
“Vinny you know how much I love dragons-“
“Take that Pineco and don’t look back.”
I’m wheezing 😭
Not Vinny actually making the winning play with the Haxorus switch lol. Honestly thought he'd just send it
That thumbnail makes me sad don’t disrespect my boy squirtle
11:35 I am a bug fan so perhaps Im biased but Spewpa is amazing. Its shiny definitely tips it over the edge imo.
2:07 totally not blastoise
It is part favorite pokemon
The original(151) duo! These two got me into all this “Then We Fight” stuff.
Pat is kinda blind, he said the lowest voting one at the start was arcanine when it was actually blastoise, then in round 2, he said zorua was the least voted one when it was actually the kroko. Im just now starting to watch so he might commit more mistakes
OMG this is the video for the first poll I actually saw before the video came out! Lol I've been impatiently waiting for it since voting 😂
2:00 this isn't a lying video patters
I noticed that too lmao
30:50 I did the calcs for the Tera Starstorm on the Shadow Shield Palafin.
The crit mattered.
I love spewpa. It's one of the greatest pokemon names to say out loud.
18:06 THAT'S MY BOY RIGHT THERE!!!! SWAMPERT IS MY BOY!!!!!!!
44:46 best part
6:31 Vintendo: I'm ready to accept whatever you send me with open arms
ME: *Tearing up* Polites?
Let’s goo members video❤
:D
The look on pat face when he realized that he got his hope's up for nothing is just so funny 🤣
Yea i love it😂😂
48 seconds ago
fast aren't ya
24:14 "We've got a wonferful Terapagos; Tellar-Stera!" -Patterz (October 17, 2024)
What’s with the Smoliv shade it’s so cute 😭 it’s just so smol how could anyone dislike it??
So much genuine laughter betwixt you two, always a fave duo 🙌🏻
These two dudes, the chemistry
It's always a blast having these two
28:29 As buggy and glitchy S&V were when they came out I really have to commend how good they made some of the Pokémon especially the older ones look.
Forretres looks cleannnn man. Like it literally looks like he's getting himself polished every day
That "bad/dad joke" joke is so genius. Not only it was so simple it caught me off guard, it also implies that dad jokes are actually "bad" jokes.
I think I voted in these! This was cool to see the results and how we all voted!
And the Pineco bit made me laugh hysterically!! 😂
(15:45) "If Vaporeon loses this, it means people are moving past the meme and the world is healing"
Hisuian Typhlosion: Hey, how are ya? >w>;;
"And don't tell me that Corphish is just a crab" "I thought he was a lobster?"
Guys. He's a crayfish. It's in the name.
Ain't no way Vinny thought people like Hypno and Hitmonlee 😭 they're decent mons but the majority of people probably like mons based off design
But I'm surprised Vinny didn't even consider Florigato, does he not know the memes around it?
Vinny giving Pat the Geodude in *that* round was absolutely criminal
Vinny choosing Smoliv is crazy cause almost everyone loved Smoliv when it was announced
Whereas Arrokudo gets overshadowed by its evo
You guys have to start taking into account not just the looks bias, but specifically the CUTE bias. Barrascuda is ugly! Smoliv is pretty cute and, like you yourself said, there's plushies of it. There's a reason why there are marketable plushies!
You make a good point
Very interesting video concept Pat! Your uploads area always very unique and glad you had a fun time! Hope you keep creating more! 😄
44:10 has to be one of the funniest moments to date 😂
16:04 Chandelure has been voted multiple extremely highly , 2020 - top unovan pokemon , 2023 - top 3 in japan . Personally its my favorite Unovan Pokémon , crazy to me how you two were surprised
8:28 I always use the same reference from Frozen anytime I hear the word blowout as well 😂 but yeah it should have been a layup once you see Hypno!!
The Anger Shell vs. Weak Armor duel was perfect 😂
Vinny is a savage. “You think I’m gonna just give it to you?” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah that Swampert round was a no brainer. Great design, fun shiny, good typing and a strong pokemon. There’s lots to love about Swampert and for good reason.
19:53 MY BOY GOT THIRD PLACE!
Vinny has gotten so much better at battling what a legend I love u vinny
I do think that if Terapagos is "required" to have it's regular ability to be useful, the same should apply to Palafin. Might at least balance him out haha, but mostly it seems weird that one transformation by ability is allowed to have an extra ability while the other isn't. Just my thoughts! Great video by both of you!
This idea is so fun (mostly cause I got to vote and most of my opinions were widely shared) however, slight spin on it in the future. You both guess who the Most AND Least favorite is of 10 pokemon, if one player gets them both right they get the favorite (and maybe any ability?) and the other player gets the least favorite. If you tie 0-0,1-1 or 2-2 maybe you spin a wheel to see who gets which of the 10 pokemon or something like that.