not making a p5 guide. Here's p5 bis though wowsims.github.io/sod/shadow_priest/#eJztVE1oE1EQ3nm7Sd5OzPb1Vcvm1YMGW5dAymbbaGOFrAWxFIUcLPQkKFZUqhYDUm8qij/VElsvFqFRQT1YUA8FEUSpYOtJhZaCF0G8iNQqQv1B9G020aJ4sv4cnMPyzcw38817yxtklDBiQxNshwNkd55ASwWFKwSuEfCiBQJcEYUwBrNdm/d37mWquXpJIH4JMMw+nzLM+83W6LkoauzubARD7FCfYQ4vlLkzvYZ5stl6OW5K56CMPjOs6fdR6RyWzhPDGrkqkLLRE4Z18Z4pUWE2Yl2WsTA70Fds++qBV/pJapwPWW9lKWUDknP6cI1Et3sNq18ijQ1JXY1N5A2pfkKKjlVJd+SWF7w+YDg1VGWaDa0kCz3kGATyQAqgXgF4DMqqSQ2fEuW//VbjM/C3R/jT9oIoLQsYaQIXWiEL3dAmUnaDY9vJhkTCQym7MWk3pOykk0pm1Q7Youw8qpkqVmFIBFClr3tiFIOoJZJ2DhchFRJT+TpiOoYwkHDqV+awGoNCQ2JWxhAlOZGsT6ZzJqDp09mHfOS7TPWcRnMy3BJ1uJgL1Ac1L/3uYxQjsTDqN6Dklqu4JsgqhevCn3Iox5eLWmRxgwY5aVM8GpIVuZZKSZcvlgWEnBZVe5ev8SORY4D2tVt0LvPnLeUyYeQbEYV/HLkoeKNw0JOojFdQjZMtik9L2bXlUFsp5Ni5YtXNeyZfJ9ZiM0+jfqF40uIicoK+Ugl5i0d3QqU5/Xvx2VK2eM9y9XwdRXbgYaF7SnS03dJ5nViGJq8uX+3z6RrU+9USFPIX0Nl+sIJfG8hL7h6Dnq3HS2+myX1HYLy8o9xHJbTBnSLwlJBBUN6A/CkMYndU3c9tcit9UO9GB896Np5J+5GHmaXbijaZcfIqnToU4XR9577OriUrbDMT/8d2oXXcnZc+dcO/1IeJz/Mzh7Rk8dt92U3v2DNzZHzjRGZNKeN2wBdtlMUo
Rotation with T2 6P Bonus Inner focus + Talisman of Ephemeral Power -> VP -> VT -> SWP -> Cassandra’s Tome into MB -> SWD -> Homonculi Then mind spike x 3 -> MB -> SWD repeat
great guide, last thing am wondering about is about shadow vulnerability. Do our dots automatically get updated with the dmg taken increase from the debuff?
what macros u need a shadow? gameplay cant be more simple then it is. dot and spam 3 spells? we not hunters that we need macros? like for what situation u need macro? canceling disperssion?
I appreciate it but SOD is already a pretty niche viewer base especially for shadow priest. A video on Addons and Weakauras would get less views than this guide and this guide is struggling as it is
Great video! Thank you very much for taking the time to get it. I have one question: How do i get 40% crit chance? With some world buffs and current gear i have 20% at most. I have 4 pieces of the set so far mind you but I'm asking for future endevours. Should i farm pvp gear or is there aome other way?
@Pants Gaming how close are the trinkets dps wise ? is briarwood > draconic on single target ? even if you snapshot draconic dmg or is it depending on lenght of the fight? Plus Isn't shadowguard + 1 extra global(mind spike) = more dmg than 1 devouring plague, considering shadowguard will be precast, u free up 1 global in fight.
Hello great vid!! Learnt me everything I wanted to know. I still have a question : how can u get more that 40% crit? My stuff is pretty good and I can have 20/25% in raid (with drood buff).
So theres 10% from onyxia buff, theres 5% from songflower, theres 3% from dire maul tribute and another 3% from boomie aura. Thats 21% flat crit from buffs. Your BiS gear has a little under 14% baseline, so thats 35% and with all the % and flat value buffs int it adds up to like 2-3% more. The problem isnt getting close, its the last few %. Then again, thats only as long as you have worldbuffs, so you need to be prepared for both situations. Or at least I have to be. Unfortunately.
At 4 points your MB cooldown is 6 seconds. The global cooldown is always 1.5 seconds (minimum amount of time needed for a cast, including instant cast abilities). This means you cast MB then 4 other spells and cast MB again. With a 5th point you do the same thing and your MB is off cd half a second earlier, but this overlaps with your 4th cast. So it's a wasted point. If you skip that 4th cast then you'd have to wait 1 second before you could cast MB and losing 1 second of cast time is even worse for your dps. TLDR the 5th point is worthless
eye of the void is a huge dps loss. 1 warlock should be using mark of chaos as it's a huge grief for shadow to use eye of the void. worst case scenario a healing priest should use eye if necessary
@@Pants_Gaming Yeah that happend to us cause of a bad comp. I was disc priest and was asked to run Eye. Now my questions, when we dont have mark of chaos. Are 99% of the raids not more interested on Curse of Elements ? Are there comfortably makros to put the curse on target. I dont wanna say it, but in my first run I wasnt prepped and "clicked". Felt very unseXy!
So I was palnning to make a guide before MC came out, but because MC is essentially SOM MC with an added Fire Resistance mechanic it didn't seem worth it to make a guide since there weren't new mechanics to the fights. Joardee has an MC guide you can check out. If BWL has mechanics that are different from SOM then I'll make a guide for that, but not if it's just SOM BWL
I don't think spell power snapshots. Just crit and % damage modifiers. I believe spell power updates to whatever your value is whenever pain and suffering refreshes your dots.
@@Pants_Gaming Thank so you much for confirming this. I trust you, but how did you figure this out for sure? Also, nobody seems to be talking about stacking Shadow Weaving stacks before putting up dots. Is this somehow not part of the snapshot?
It was easy to test on PTR with target dummies. And debuffs on the target update dynamically to your dots, buffs on your character do not. Stacking shadow weaving is ONLY a thing in Wrath since it's a buff on your character and not a debuff on the boss
We need the Phase 5 deets! Do we go Draconic or Core?!
not making a p5 guide. Here's p5 bis though wowsims.github.io/sod/shadow_priest/#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
@@Pants_Gaming Beautiful guide man, thanks! What about the rotation in P5 without the T1 setbonus?
Rotation with T2 6P Bonus
Inner focus + Talisman of Ephemeral Power -> VP -> VT -> SWP -> Cassandra’s Tome into MB -> SWD -> Homonculi
Then mind spike x 3 -> MB -> SWD repeat
@@Pants_Gaming Cassandras Tome can make your Mind Blast and SWD crit if you use them on same global
thats why I have MB -> SWD following tome
This is the best guide of shadow priest i have ever seen whole entire wow life.
I'm a bit behind this phase and appreciate all the info laid out like this. Thanks for the video!
great guide, last thing am wondering about is about shadow vulnerability. Do our dots automatically get updated with the dmg taken increase from the debuff?
This is very good, thanks a lot! Would love a guide on your addons, macros and WAs too!
what macros u need a shadow? gameplay cant be more simple then it is. dot and spam 3 spells? we not hunters that we need macros? like for what situation u need macro? canceling disperssion?
@@josipmarasovic2436 I'm actually trying to help him get more views, but tell me more, link your logs?
I appreciate it but SOD is already a pretty niche viewer base especially for shadow priest. A video on Addons and Weakauras would get less views than this guide and this guide is struggling as it is
Great video! Thank you very much for taking the time to get it. I have one question: How do i get 40% crit chance? With some world buffs and current gear i have 20% at most. I have 4 pieces of the set so far mind you but I'm asking for future endevours. Should i farm pvp gear or is there aome other way?
thank you for making this! super informative
@Pants Gaming how close are the trinkets dps wise ? is briarwood > draconic on single target ? even if you snapshot draconic dmg or is it depending on lenght of the fight?
Plus Isn't shadowguard + 1 extra global(mind spike) = more dmg than 1 devouring plague, considering shadowguard will be precast, u free up 1 global in fight.
I think shadowguard is better honestly.. let me know if you have an update on this haha. Not sure if I should swap to DP or not.
Thanks for the video. So from my understanding, mind flay is not worth casting until one has the set bonus from tier one?
Just started leveling a priest, but this guide helps alot!
Glad to hear it!
Hello great vid!! Learnt me everything I wanted to know.
I still have a question : how can u get more that 40% crit?
My stuff is pretty good and I can have 20/25% in raid (with drood buff).
@Pants_Gaming Superb video, thank you so much! But I think we would all love ur update version of the WA with VT added! :)
Yeah finally! Looking forward thanks man!
Excellent guide! Best I have seen, very concise! What would rotation look like if it was an AOE fight, or adds we need to help burn down?
Can you please make a video going over your UI and weak auras plzzzz it’s sooo clean and I would love a copy of it
Can we get one for Druids mate?!
SUPER helpful video man much appreciated thanks!
Great guide once again !
Can you also please share with us, some must have WAs and addons?
how exactyl do you get to 40 percent crit base? i assume this is all WBs but what else?
So theres 10% from onyxia buff, theres 5% from songflower, theres 3% from dire maul tribute and another 3% from boomie aura. Thats 21% flat crit from buffs. Your BiS gear has a little under 14% baseline, so thats 35% and with all the % and flat value buffs int it adds up to like 2-3% more. The problem isnt getting close, its the last few %. Then again, thats only as long as you have worldbuffs, so you need to be prepared for both situations. Or at least I have to be. Unfortunately.
@@Rakschas666 ohhh didnt see that comment! thx
are u planning to use MR potion the entire raid? for bosses seems straight forward but would we get oneshot on trash?
Could you mention some of the things you use from engineering for PVE, in particular for MC?
It's just for speedrunning things. Target dummies, sappers, etc. There's nothing from a dps perspective
is there any way we can get a p5 bis list ?
great guide, thanks so much!
do we not use SWD with t1 6p < 40% crit?
do you have a plater profile or/and other addons/wa for spriest?
Superb. Thanks!
I dont see the 6 piece nerf in game, is the tooltip just not updated?
You have to check the tooltip for the buff “Melting Faces”. The tier set reads the same as before
@@Pants_Gaming Why would they nerf it :( is there patch notes somewhere for that? Seems like a stealth nerf
@@Pants_Gaming Also sorry for all the questions, what is the reason for not taking the 5th point in improved mind blast?
At 4 points your MB cooldown is 6 seconds. The global cooldown is always 1.5 seconds (minimum amount of time needed for a cast, including instant cast abilities). This means you cast MB then 4 other spells and cast MB again. With a 5th point you do the same thing and your MB is off cd half a second earlier, but this overlaps with your 4th cast. So it's a wasted point. If you skip that 4th cast then you'd have to wait 1 second before you could cast MB and losing 1 second of cast time is even worse for your dps.
TLDR the 5th point is worthless
@@Pants_Gaming Thank you for taking the time to reply!
This guide is Godlike❤
so only for Garr we need 226 UNBUFFED right?
Can we always assume curse of shadow is put up by another class? Or might the Eye of the Void rune be worth if it is not put up?
eye of the void is a huge dps loss. 1 warlock should be using mark of chaos as it's a huge grief for shadow to use eye of the void. worst case scenario a healing priest should use eye if necessary
@@Pants_Gaming Yeah that happend to us cause of a bad comp. I was disc priest and was asked to run Eye. Now my questions, when we dont have mark of chaos. Are 99% of the raids not more interested on Curse of Elements ?
Are there comfortably makros to put the curse on target. I dont wanna say it, but in my first run I wasnt prepped and "clicked". Felt very unseXy!
Great guide.
You sure that ring specialization stacks?
literally never said it did
Does Innerfocus snapshotting work for every tick of dmg from a dot? Or just the first tick?
Every tick after
Great guide! Can you share your WA ?
Isn't Void Plague rather cheap, why not save Inner Focus for your Mind Blasts?
watch the snapshotting section
in u gona use inner focus for anything it should be devouring pleague becuase biggest mana and biggest cd
@@josipmarasovic2436 execpt it will run out, where as pain and suffering rune will keep inner focus plague snapshot active during the whole encounter.
I've seen several Shadow priest going for +7 frost spellpower on weapon? is that just for a cheaper version?
That enchant does absolutely nothing. Mind spike uses the higher of your frost or shadow damage. Frost will never be higher than shadow
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Incredible
Banger video. Updated Weakaura with VT please 🥺🙏
Please
what about hit ? i see on some guides they want us to have 16 hit ??
Shadow Specialization + Talents get you to 16%. Doesn't need to be mentioned because you'll always be hit capped
@@Pants_Gaming Thanks for the reply !
@@Pants_Gaming but hit we get from talents isnt it just for fear and stuff like that not basic spels i saw hydra explaning that shit?
can we see an mc raid guide? im trying so hard to be better and youre the biggest help
So I was palnning to make a guide before MC came out, but because MC is essentially SOM MC with an added Fire Resistance mechanic it didn't seem worth it to make a guide since there weren't new mechanics to the fights. Joardee has an MC guide you can check out.
If BWL has mechanics that are different from SOM then I'll make a guide for that, but not if it's just SOM BWL
@@Pants_Gaming ohh I had no idea, I'll go check out yours and the other ones:) thanmyou so much!
I don't think spell power snapshots. Just crit and % damage modifiers. I believe spell power updates to whatever your value is whenever pain and suffering refreshes your dots.
you're wrong. it's different in SoD
@@Pants_Gaming Interesting. I think this is the first time it's been this way.
Yup. It’s because they created new snapshot spells in sod that have different code from previous snapshot mechanics
@@Pants_Gaming Thank so you much for confirming this. I trust you, but how did you figure this out for sure? Also, nobody seems to be talking about stacking Shadow Weaving stacks before putting up dots. Is this somehow not part of the snapshot?
It was easy to test on PTR with target dummies. And debuffs on the target update dynamically to your dots, buffs on your character do not. Stacking shadow weaving is ONLY a thing in Wrath since it's a buff on your character and not a debuff on the boss
elixir of frost power is worth using too! for mind spike
no it isnt. Mind spike uses the higher of your frost or shadow damage. Frost will never be higher than shadow
@@Pants_Gaming oh shit haha ok
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Can I get an invite to your discord? It says the link is invalid