Our website is 5speeds dot com not 5speed dot com. The problem with people ordering online is that as much as we tell and explain that this is for a WORLD CLASS transmission,we have had to accept returns because they order for a NON WORLD CLASS.If people don't wan't to speak to people anymore (which is how things are going now with texting for example ) they should at least send me an email to confirm certain parts are correct for their application. We do have an extensive online store actually.
Hey.. Good stuff man.... I will be having another go at fixing my T5z for road racing use at some stage soon... You may be hearing from me. Keep your eyes out for the New Zealand order.
Hi Paul. I see that you preload the counter gear bearings, which is what I would expect with tapered roller bearings. My copy of the 1991 Borg Warner T5 Service Manual, that I bought in the early 1990s, describes the calculation of the shim thickness so there will be 0.0018 in. of lash (no preload). I always thought that was odd, but that is what I have always used. How much shim preload do you use on the counter gear? or do you just iteratively measure the rotational drag until you reach 3-4 in.lb?
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I noticed a lot of the oriental made plates advertise they don’t fit a WC GM trans due to the “thickness of the fifth gear”. Do your support plates work with GM T5s as well as Ford?
Well looks like I got screwed! I got my parts in Canada but the guy said from USA so I thought I was good to go. The holes are bigger like you said, so guessing its from China and its 0.37 inch thick. (how thick are yours?) Plus he did not provide shims or even tell me I would have to get some. So guess I am going to buy your Shim and Stabizier kit to finish my road race T5 Is it the peel shim that come in your kit? Plus could you provide more info on your channels for oil in road racing apps. It sounds like a few people are interested in this mod. Thank You for giving quality workmanship to you Trans
People use .375" thick stock because it is a standard plate size and don't go the extra effort. Mine are made from bar and lathe turned to my dimensions. No point in stating my dimensions so more people can copy my products. The peelable shims ( also something I came up with ) are included along with the bolts and threadlocker. I recommend Royal Purple Synchromax for T5 WC race transmissions. I have used it for years with no issues. I never have mixed it when any heavier weight oil as some people think is necessary. Doing a video on oils would be nice but from past history it just leads to people slamming one another because they think there oil is better than someone elses. There is a great deal of marketing hype done purposely on forums to sell certain brands. The oils, tools and any products you see in my videos are not endorsements or paid adverts.
GearBoxVideo Thanks for the reply, Sorry, did not mean for you to say your actual thickness, just your opinion if what I had was to thick. Not that it matters now cause I will buy from you now that I understand the quality difference.
I really enjoy your knowledge and willingness to share I thank you,do you have a website for any parts and or upgrades? I currently have a T5 with the G force internals and I love it I love banging gears and people like yourself keep me motivated to keep on banging them....thanks Lee Hinson...
I guess the only thing to make it better would be adding dowl pins , but that could weakenthe case around the bearing. Or use bolts with a slight shank to center the plate, looks like you have a near perfect design, if I get around to building my t5, I'll be looking you up. Even if I don't put it back in my f-body, I may do the S-10 tail, and put the trans in a truck, chevy with 250 6 banger! Great video, china copys everything! Even cars!
Astro performance sells this, is their version worth it? Astro is a pretty well known company for t-5s and they have this for sale for a very good price. Also, do you sell the caged bearings seprately for the t-5? The rebuild kit I got does not have a single one,and it would be nice to replace them
They sell a Chinese copy of my part. They have never designed anything on their own. I do have caged needle bearings for the T5 WC sold individually. Call me at 561-743-5600. Thank you. I designed the plate and both the plate and shims are made in USA
Woops, sorry about that, when I was on your site all I read was "Order by calling..." on the bottom. I somehow disassociated 5speed.com with the stabilizer plate web page! Anyway, cool product!
Will oily gears effect the drag rating? I am planing on changing this out in my case that has had oil in it. I only plan to drain the oil then install this plate.
GearBoxVideo what should we shoot for on a drag torque with bearings say we have run from new for about 250 miles? I would assume my bearing are already seating so I was thinking to shoot for 2 in lbs
I mentioned before on another video I have a T5 I am installing into a 84 camaro. Could you tell me roughly what this plate races the hp and torque limits of the transmission to? Currently the car is powered by an 2.5l l4 but i've considered the 3800 as a swap. I was also wondering what the comparison of limits on the normal t5 is with this plate vs the wc.
Ok. The durability under high rpms is the factor of interest for me. Is it true the difference in wc t5s and nwc t5s is just the design one vs wc design 2. Would it be safe to assume any late model t5s (for example the one i purchased from a 92 3.1l firebird. Or simply the fact its 3.1l powered.) would be design 2? An inspection of bearing races would confirm wc or nwc correct?
@@GearBoxVideo the stabilizer is out of stock, I was wondering when it will be available, and asked in a poor way. I've got a t5 that makes a whining noise in third gear, and since I got it freshly rebuilt that tells me the bearing retainer is probably slightly egg shaped and needs this installed.
It's coming. Transmissions have to actually be purchased and time set aside to make FREE videos. Unless they come into my shop for a rebuild. Recently I purchased one. Takes about 10 hours to shoot and edit a video. Try and understand that.
I'm working on a t5 right now. It's my first try at a manual transmission. Your videos and book are awesome!
Our website is 5speeds dot com not 5speed dot com. The problem with people ordering online is that as much as we tell and explain that this is for a WORLD CLASS transmission,we have had to accept returns because they order for a NON WORLD CLASS.If people don't wan't to speak to people anymore (which is how things are going now with texting for example ) they should at least send me an email to confirm certain parts are correct for their application. We do have an extensive online store actually.
Great video and great product! I have had on in my t5 for the last 4 years now!
My website does have a store, you can order this online.
Awesome videos you have here. Very professionally explained. Love all your videos and your knowledge is outstanding. Thanks for your info and sharing.
Hey.. Good stuff man.... I will be having another go at fixing my T5z for road racing use at some stage soon... You may be hearing from me. Keep your eyes out for the New Zealand order.
Hi Paul. I see that you preload the counter gear bearings, which is what I would expect with tapered roller bearings. My copy of the 1991 Borg Warner T5 Service Manual, that I bought in the early 1990s, describes the calculation of the shim thickness so there will be 0.0018 in. of lash (no preload). I always thought that was odd, but that is what I have always used. How much shim preload do you use on the counter gear? or do you just iteratively measure the rotational drag until you reach 3-4 in.lb?
+t5montecarlo I use rotational drag. The books really are not that helpful. Rotational drag is the best method.
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Really enjoyed your videos!
I noticed a lot of the oriental made plates advertise they don’t fit a WC GM trans due to the “thickness of the fifth gear”. Do your support plates work with GM T5s as well as Ford?
Of course. I designed the plate and everyone poorly copied the idea
You should have an online store. I think some people(DIYers) a less inclined to call than to order through your site.
I would love more info on the channels for oil in road racing apps. Maybe he could do a video for how to machine those and the ideal dimensions.
Well looks like I got screwed!
I got my parts in Canada but the guy said from USA so I thought I was good to go.
The holes are bigger like you said, so guessing its from China and its 0.37 inch thick. (how thick are yours?)
Plus he did not provide shims or even tell me I would have to get some.
So guess I am going to buy your Shim and Stabizier kit to finish my road race T5
Is it the peel shim that come in your kit?
Plus could you provide more info on your channels for oil in road racing apps.
It sounds like a few people are interested in this mod.
Thank You for giving quality workmanship to you Trans
People use .375" thick stock because it is a standard plate size and don't go the extra effort. Mine are made from bar and lathe turned to my dimensions. No point in stating my dimensions so more people can copy my products. The peelable shims ( also something I came up with ) are included along with the bolts and threadlocker. I recommend Royal Purple Synchromax for T5 WC race transmissions. I have used it for years with no issues. I never have mixed it when any heavier weight oil as some people think is necessary. Doing a video on oils would be nice but from past history it just leads to people slamming one another because they think there oil is better than someone elses. There is a great deal of marketing hype done purposely on forums to sell certain brands. The oils, tools and any products you see in my videos are not endorsements or paid adverts.
GearBoxVideo Thanks for the reply,
Sorry, did not mean for you to say your actual thickness, just your opinion if what I had was to thick.
Not that it matters now cause I will buy from you now that I understand the quality difference.
Good info!Will this also help keep the case from cracking?
I really enjoy your knowledge and willingness to share I thank you,do you have a website for any parts and or upgrades? I currently have a T5 with the G force internals and I love it I love banging gears and people like yourself keep me motivated to keep on banging them....thanks Lee Hinson...
I guess the only thing to make it better would be adding dowl pins , but that could weakenthe case around the bearing. Or use bolts with a slight shank to center the plate, looks like you have a near perfect design, if I get around to building my t5, I'll be looking you up. Even if I don't put it back in my f-body, I may do the S-10 tail, and put the trans in a truck, chevy with 250 6 banger! Great video, china copys everything! Even cars!
The plate locates and centers on the bearing. No need for dowels.
Astro performance sells this, is their version worth it? Astro is a pretty well known company for t-5s and they have this for sale for a very good price.
Also, do you sell the caged bearings seprately for the t-5? The rebuild kit I got does not have a single one,and it would be nice to replace them
They sell a Chinese copy of my part. They have never designed anything on their own. I do have caged needle bearings for the T5 WC sold individually. Call me at 561-743-5600. Thank you. I designed the plate and both the plate and shims are made in USA
Good stuff...(Info) Thankyou for sharing !!!!
I wonder if the Modern Driveline or Ford Racing (same model) T5Z has an upgraded cluster support plate since it's rated at 330ft lbs??
Modern Driveline uses our plate. Ford units still use the stock stamped steel piece.
Woops, sorry about that, when I was on your site all I read was "Order by calling..." on the bottom. I somehow disassociated 5speed.com with the stabilizer plate web page!
Anyway, cool product!
Will oily gears effect the drag rating? I am planing on changing this out in my case that has had oil in it. I only plan to drain the oil then install this plate.
No, because the oil is very light
GearBoxVideo what should we shoot for on a drag torque with bearings say we have run from new for about 250 miles? I would assume my bearing are already seating so I was thinking to shoot for 2 in lbs
Sounds right
I mentioned before on another video I have a T5 I am installing into a 84 camaro. Could you tell me roughly what this plate races the hp and torque limits of the transmission to? Currently the car is powered by an 2.5l l4 but i've considered the 3800 as a swap. I was also wondering what the comparison of limits on the normal t5 is with this plate vs the wc.
It doesn't. It just keeps the countergear from getting end play. Factory retainers stretch under load. It is only for a WC application.
Ok. The durability under high rpms is the factor of interest for me. Is it true the difference in wc t5s and nwc t5s is just the design one vs wc design 2. Would it be safe to assume any late model t5s (for example the one i purchased from a 92 3.1l firebird. Or simply the fact its 3.1l powered.) would be design 2? An inspection of bearing races would confirm wc or nwc correct?
Do you still offer these in steel? I noticed on your website it says billet aluminum. Thanks
+jon marsh They are only in steel. My website is 5speeds.com
awesome products.......
Thanks so much.
will it work with the G force gears or are those gears unnecessary
Yes. In fact Gforce copied my olate
I need the kit. Please. I'm in mi. Near Detroit
Use my contact info on the about section to get in touch with me.
Paul I have a 81 Jeep with a t5 would a world class hold up to 304 v8??
No, pretty much with big tires you will break them
thank you what would you suggest maybe AX15
Why are these no longer available?
What is no longer available?
@@GearBoxVideo the stabilizer is out of stock, I was wondering when it will be available, and asked in a poor way.
I've got a t5 that makes a whining noise in third gear, and since I got it freshly rebuilt that tells me the bearing retainer is probably slightly egg shaped and needs this installed.
It will be back in stock Tuesday
Well that really sucks that people are copying your design.
all the boost Its happened more than once. Worst is people still purchase the copies because they are cheaper and find out they don't fit.
Why cant you make one for the nwc ?
It's coming. Transmissions have to actually be purchased and time set aside to make FREE videos. Unless they come into my shop for a rebuild. Recently I purchased one. Takes about 10 hours to shoot and edit a video. Try and understand that.
Are your races still available?
Races as on bearing races?
@@GearBoxVideo
Yes.
Yes
OK I wanna get one of yours
Wow they copied it and didn't even know why the cut out was put there!
+Superdude Superdude Happens everyday