The AIO is not flywoo, its JHEMCU GHF13AIO. For your custom build needs contact Adam and/or Connor on FaceBook below. Adam bit.ly/2lMqdqe Connor bit.ly/3bgaS8N
U have theBetaFpv lite radio 2 _ the guy I bought it from came with a betafpv lite. #1 tiny hawk the 1st one by emaxx& I've tried the was that you don't have it get. Onto betaflight
@@raydesheles9205 I wonder in what way the binding process is failing? Are you following a manual or process for the quad and another for the radio? And what is that process? button presses? Lights? battery plugin? Usb plugin?
@@NickBurnsFPV hey I have been trying to get my sub atomic going but for some reason something goes wrong. Everything was working until i put A receiver in it and not i dont get the motors to beep. Is the a drone similar to it that is already built cause I have gone threw 2 FC trying to get it to work.
And I LOVE this thing, I gotta have one! No joke, 3 or 4 years ago I would sit around and dream of quads like this, and whoops with digital HD video! What a time to be alive, and to be in this hobby; how lucky are we...?!
yea, top mount with a 16x16 stack and a camera in that tight package. Gnarlyfpv did have the guppy similar design, but there were issues with getting a camera in and camera angle. :(
@@NickBurnsFPV A couple years ago GnarlyFPV used to sell this tiny little frame on their replacement frames page, it was like a whoop-sized frame, but for the life of me I can't remember the name, or find a pic of it. Basically the bottom plate of the Sub Atomic. It used a 16x16 stack mounted diagonally, and one of the NewBeeDrone camera mounts like Kabab's Toothpicks, and whoop props. I kept wanting to order one, but never did, and then it disappeared. I'm glad this new one is out, it's an improvement on that design, I didn't like the camera mount; this one is so much better.
Ayyy! insane 3 minute Insta360 go flight time! Sorry about the stock everyone! The last 3 bathes sold out within a couple of hours each. The next batch is about 2 weeks out. We put up a small preorder window for this batch by request for anyone looking to secure a kit. There will be more kits available when the kits are prepared (About 2 weeks out from the date of this comment) Updates: The rear mount has been updated to accommodate larger gauged wire. Countersunk stack screws Tag us on instagram @gnarlyfpv or #Gnarlyfpvsubatomic #subatomic with your builds :D -Gnarlyfpv
This looks amazing.. When I saw there was a chance to win one, I jumped up off the sofa and ran to the computer to submit my entry! What a great little kit.
Gerridae.... Also known as the 'water skimmer/skipper/skeeter/skater/strider/spider', the ponds behind my house were full of them when I was a kid, loved them! Love this li'l skimmer as well, it's like a tiny little 'Tadpole' from Armattan, my favorite quad of the last six months..!
I was thinking water strider, but as crowdsourcing goes we did get it down to Gerridae. Now the real question, did you know Gerridae or did you look it up? Either way, thanks for helping find the name.
@@NickBurnsFPV Believe it or not, I knew it..! Waaay back in the 80's I was the weird kid with a net and a jar who spent all day out in the fields catching every six-legged creepy crawly I could, then went to the library and looked them up, made little labels, etc... Then in my early teens I realized entomologists covered in bug bites didn't get quite as many girls as lead guitarists with long hair, and well, life took a left turn... No regrets tho, I've had fun (probably more than my share), I ran a recording studio, did some tours, and later became a guitar builder; but sometimes I think back wistfully to those days out in the fields, and wonder what might have been... C'est la vie, eh?
@@jackmaddox4960 Impressive retention of that knowledge. Did your school have that "science" project of collecting insects, pinning them to a cork board and labeling them?
@@NickBurnsFPV No, but I was doing that on my own by age 10, then a science teacher in Jr. High, Mr. Gonzales, let me use his lab after school, and helped me out, basically for extra credit. He also helped me start our school's first model rocket club, the Pinewood Derby Club, and even the (admittedly small) 'Folded Folio Forum', or paper airplane club! I always loved them, as did he, so we'd meet with a few other students and exchange designs & ideas, make a bunch, then launch them out the 2nd floor lab window into the main courtyard to see how far they'd go. He was a great teacher, the last really dedicated teacher I had, honestly. Not too many like that anymore, sadly... Apologies for the long trip down memory lane, not really the forum for it here... :-)
Also that sealed printed parts pack actually has TWO of the antenna mount pieces that go on the front under the camera, allowing for more different antenna configurations...
for me, the Tinyhwak Freestyle 2 with the TinysLED Sled to hold the TBS tracer receiver and the TBS unify Nanno pro is the pinnacle of small drones. It's such a good drone you get so much fly time, agility, and crash ability out of the tinyhawk fs2. Throw a Insta360 and you almost won't Notice that it's there. after a few packs!
Thanks for the great video. I would love that little bugger. I starting to build my own small quads to better understand setups and tweaking. That way I can build exactly what I want.
That motor size notably the betafpv 1102 - 13500kv, are so versatile. Ive bought more than 6 sets and made varying builds with them over the past year.
@@NickBurnsFPV ultra light 1s 2.5inch toothpick, a 1080p hd 75mm 2s whoop, and my igow 2s 75mm whoop. So far, maybe one of those open prop 40mm propeller builds next.
Nice little frame. Finding myself more attracted to these smaller quads lately! Just destroyed my tinyhawk 2 freestyle board. Only to realize afterwards how proprietary emax products are. This looks like a nice alternative.
yea, emax has like to use their own parts, but I do see they might be changing their ways. The nanohawk used a standard sized board. A move in the right direction.
I just blew the fets on my second th2 freestyle board...decided to replace it with a geprc phantom. But I'm definitely going to build one of these too!
this little guy is sitting on my shelf with the aio right next to it waiting to be built. i hear rumor this will do 110x motors, may try it out. i already flew the GnarlyFPV Guppy V3 until too many trees grounded the little guy. nice vid.
@@NickBurnsFPV Here I am ripping the Guppy (Subatomic precursor) pretty hard into the punchouts on 0802 Xing motors and 40mm Gemfans: th-cam.com/video/PvT1Qkj-7TA/w-d-xo.html. You should feel free to huck it over your house, sir :) - I was perhaps a tiny bit disappointed you did not in your video! :) I enjoy your vids, thank you.
I was lucky enough to get one couple weeks ago had to use 11500 kv motors that where a little heavier than what they recommend but I can get 3:30 if I'm really flying or more just cruising. Its an excellent kit comes with everything. The jhemcu aio I used didn't come with gummies but the kit included them. Good stuff
@@NickBurnsFPV this seems as a strong machine. I guess it will have no problems carrying it, even eith 10 grams more (doubt the new cam is that much heavier?).
That is a good question. I did look around some and didn't find a 16x16 aio and the JHEMCU is largely out of stock. I did find pyrodrone.com does show them in stock.
How about designing a 3d print 16x16 to whoop board, I don't mine flying this frame on 1s whoop board eventhough there are whoop board out there that can do 2-6s but the problem is that this frame has limited space and aio whoop board like the HM with receiver and vtx onboard can easily save space while other whoop board still need external receiver and vtx were no space available anymore.
Thanks for the shout out! If anyone is looking for any kinda build feel free to hit me up on here or on facebook =] I may need to get me one of these frames lol
Outstanding! Finally a true, real, micro quad!! I just built one very similar to this. I love these tiny little rippers!!! Mine is essentially a Spedix Rex, 1103 11,000kv motors, 20amp stack, more powerful VTX than the stock one, and Crossfire! ... to make it virtually failsafe proof! Too bad it's so damn rainy up here in Oregon, but a nice spell is coming first of the week. Last nice spell got up to 61 degrees! Anyway, glad to see there are still co0ol little rippers coming out instead of the slow, boring long range and cinewho0p barges. Thanks Nick, nicely done, Bro! =(:^)-
I likely said it in the video, but with these super small ones, in the back of my mind I know it won't have the pure performance we can often be searching for, so just fly around and have fun. Not trying to go fast or hit a super big move, all small moves. :)
PS...Every time you fly your yard I think you're gonna go between those perfect "V's" in the two trees at the very back left hand corner/side of your yard. I'd love it if you'd start incorporating those into your flights around your yard. It would add another dimension to your test flights, those and some other great gaps in between the multiple trees you have. A lot of us don't have those to take advantage of! Thanks again! ;)
@@NickBurnsFPV Sure, I feel the same way! They're so darn fun it doesn't mater if there are many other quads that go much faster, or do tricks better, these are so tiny and quiet, you can fly them anywhere...and hit very small gaps...that's a lot of the appeal!! I look at them like a who0p, but without the ducts, so maybe we should call them a nakEd who0p rippEr ! LOL
@@noforyoutubepremium3108 naked whoop is a really good name. I was out over lunch working on power looping the pergola, margin for error is small enough I got hung up in the trees twice. Luckily the contractor ladders where still on patio :)
@@NickBurnsFPV agreed! They are a great design for flight characteristics, durability, and they look cool! If we stretched it out a bit more could maybe make a 2s mid range cruiser with the right gear! That would be really cool! Maybe a thinner top plate for weight saving! But this for factor and size I think is fun to fly, more places to fly them, risk of injury and damage is minimal like you said so it's more fun and more relaxing to buzz around with!
@@NickBurnsFPV another great video as usual! Thank you! When I get my act together I'll join your patron! Been a long time subscriber and really appreciate your honest reviews and flight videos! Sharkbyte with aomway commander v1 goggles? Worth it. Not a fan of the dji setup but sharkbyte is intriguing me!
@@jbizzbuildsmanstuff9932 Yea, I don't think the v1 commanders will show the SharkByte video all that well. I can't recommend a Shark Byte purchase if paired with those goggles. I could be wrong as my commander use is very dated.
@@NickBurnsFPV I'm more concerned with video link vs picture quality. I will get a better pair eventually just hate how bulky dji setup is! Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a set but it's alot of weight to add to a quad. I think if they sold a video only version of the TX ware if you don't use the dji controller (I'm a crossfire guy) it would need less electronics there for make it smaller for whoops and that sort of thing but I could be wrong with this! Sharkbyte is like adding a turtle V2 or a split. No biggy. Thanks for the reply!
I've been flying Tomoquads Baby Evo 2 for quite some time. Similar setup, 40mm props and 1102 14000kv GepRc motors. It's a great fun setup for yard and park flying. I've found that the old style HQ 4 blade props fly best with good smooth power and lower amp draw. But, they are very fragile.
the auline batteries has been largely on par with GNB, except the 4s 500mah, doesn't perform as well as GNB. When your asking about apex is that the motors or am I mistaken. If motors hard to say, as I had one fail as I was working on the tune. So that isn't good.
I have used JESC and BlueJay, as well as JazzMaverick. At this time my preference is bluejay. Changing the khz does help with flight time on micros, it also changes the low throttle response. Outside I find 48khz works well, inside I find the higher khz has a negative impact on my flying, makes turns at speed more challenging, as the props slow down slower.
I ordered 2 of the last batch for a friend and me to build them with the Happymodel 1103 10.000kv and can't wait to get it finished. Still waiting for all the parts. What was your auw with the insta 360? Do you think the tattu r-line 550mah (about 30g) will be too heavy for it? I have 3 laying around here
auw with 360 was 83grams. I have heard some are using in the 400-450mah size, but not as large as the 550. It might work, the battery will hang off the back, likely need more pitch I and possibly P&D as well.
For anyone around who is interested in this. I flew it with these batteries, today. Yes they are heavy and you can do some freestyle with it but have to be careful because of the heavy weight. But if you fly it like a whoop without doing acro tricks, I flew 9min a pack wich is impressive. I will test 350mah and maybe even 3s in a few days. Feel free to ask me
I received mine a few days ago and that zip lock bag isnt sealed at the top. you can just open the zip without tearing off the top, mine also did not arrive with countersunk screws, does not look as good, the countersunk screws makes the look. and mine arrived with 2 of those mounts for an immortal t antenna
A whoop board for this frame might need an adapter mount, if you can 3d print one (just a suggestion) that would be your best option. Gnarlyfpv aiming this frame for 16x16 JHEMCU 13a but that don't mean you can't make a whoop board to fit. I have this frame coming and my 1s whoop is waiting to get the guts transferred.
@@Bisdak.3475 Thank you. Found an adapter on banggood now. Don't have a printer yet. Even if I don't use the Crazybee F4 pro, I still prefer the jhemcu ghf411 (25.5x25.5) over the ghf13.
I am not sure a 25.5mm board will even fit. It looks like its close but it will be against the camera if it does fit, then mounting, yes there are no holes for 25.5mm board I don't think there is enough carbon on the bottom plate to dill holes to try to fit it, would likely have to use foam tape to hold the board. Its very risky to try this, could end up with it not working. I would go with the 16x16 board the frame was designed for.
@@NickBurnsFPV Alright. Thanks for the response. I'll buy the frame first, and take a look and then get the FC. Was hoping to just transfer my mobula7 to it.
yea, maybe even 10000kv for more top end punch. Likely need to run a small 300mah 3s, but if we have 350mah we can try that as well. I only worry the length of the 350mah could be an issue.
@@valden Just my $.02, I would stick with 1102, the 1103 is over a gram more per motor and doesn't have the performance boost we might expect. I switched my sharkbyte whoop the 40gram one from 1103 and to 1102 and felt it flew better.
I have been running 2s 800mah 50c on mine with the Insta360 Go and have been getting 6+ min flight times. Barely notice the extra weight with the 1202.5 motors.
Wondering if anyone can help me. Using JHEMCU GHF13 AIO F4 and diagram shows vtx pad, but not sure if its battery voltage or 5v. As far as 5v I only see one for camera. Where would I solder the 5v vtx I'm going to use. Want to avoid burning vtx out. Happen to me on another build since VTX pad was not labelled battery voltage.
See this image, there is 5v for camera but the other is vcc or battery voltage. We can use any 5v pad, like the one for led. cdn.getfpv.com/media/wysiwyg/JHEMCU-GHF13AIO_8.jpg
Nick, I'm thinking to give a chance to FPV, I have like regular DJI drones. Could you suggest me one of those small FPV drones good to start and training? Of course, goggles and remote also. Thanks (I know you may get this question way too much, but I'm kinda lost since there are way to many options).
To start, I suggest getting a radio first. The radiomaster tx16 or tx16s are good radios. I would use that radio to start using a computer fpv simulator, like velocidrone or tinywhoopgo. After some practice, when you think you are ready or the budget allows. I suggest getting a mobula 6, very popular and durable and small so it can be flown almost any ware, except in high winds. For goggles, I would start with the eachine ev800d, or the eachine ev800dm. If your very sure you are going to stay in the hobby for several years, goggles like the fatshark hod2 or skyzone 04x or orca fvp one goggles are premium googles.
@@NickBurnsFPV Awesome Nick, SUPER helpful thanks ALOT. Yeah I'm going to order that radio now and practice in the simulator for sure! Thanks so much for the attention, I bet you get that question so much, and even so, you answered so nice. Thanks.
@@NickBurnsFPV Was about to buy and there are many versions of the same radio, Mode 1 and 2, is it able to change that later, or it is pre defined forever? There are Hall version 1 and 2... and TBS 1 and 2!!!
@@rodrigodiniz13 We can change it, but I have never done it. I think we have to take it apart and move the gimbal wires around to how they connect. I do think most fly mode 2 with throttle on the left.
I see your channel as the San Antonio Spurs small market but championship quality 👌👏 you are the reason I just do micro now thx keep the great work you are appreciated thx and start that discord
Yeah I get it can't wait to see your mosquito review from NewBeeDrone curious to see what electronics you use I used my hummingbird brushless flies great but only 1 30 flight time that's the let down
@@anthonycadejr3995 Which batteries are you running? I find the NBD Nitro Nectar gold are the best 300mah batteries out there, even better than 350mahs
It will depend on the vtx and rx used. In this case, while I didn't test with a 400mw vtx and the xm rx, I would expect the limit to be the rx at about 80meters.
@@NickBurnsFPV yea, like having a set parts curated by well known pilots or groups. Most of the kits i find are 5inch beginner builds. I rather new to the hobby so maybe i'm looking at all right places.
@@SensorDelay ah yes that is understandable. We don't find much of that these days. Most of the time the BNF are so cheap and ready to go the market for a kit is small unless its endorsed by someone. I have been asked, but I stayed away. Manufactures could change something or have a defective run of components. Risky.
Just got my Frame, gonna try and put 1202.6 on there and Bi blades from the mobulite7. What do you think of that setup? Will it work? Will I burn my motors?
I installed Flywoo 1202.5 115000kv on mine and is has a great amount of power to carry the Insta360 Go. I haven't experienced any motor burn as of yet, but I do fly "cinematically" and rarely hit 100% throttle. The hover point is between 30-40% with 2s HV. I am running Gemfan 1635R Props.
I don't think you will burn your motors, but I suspect the hover point will be push 40-50% throttle. Might not have much punch. I would have some quad blade props on hand to try as well.
I hope the new insta 360 are under 200,And i hope they figured out how to manage the heat, the original wasn't meant for fpv, but figured since we keep em cooler by flying . It looks a lot like the mantis 85.
Oh man, I really, really, really want one of these frames. I wish they had some in stock! Maybe I might win a frame from you Nick! Thanks for the review, this thing looks awesome! It looks like a nano Armattan quad.
@@NickBurnsFPV Funny thing, the day I received the email from GnarlyFPV announcing it, I wrote a review.....but I made it clear in the "review" that I don't have one. I was just too excited about it, I had to make a comment on it. LOL
@@housinit Sorry about the stock situation Luis! We've had all past 3 batches sell out within 2 hours each. The next batch will be ready in about 2 weeks. We started a small preorder window on this batch due to the amount of requests for one. The window for preorders is small so stock will still be available outside of those orders when the kits are ready. Thank you for the interest! and the comment! :D -Gnarlyfpv
@@gnarlyfpv2285 Thanks for reaching out! Love you guys over there at GnarlyFPV. I just preordered one about a half hour ago. Can't wait! Thanks for the info!
@@housinit The design isn't something I have seen much have, no props in view and top mount battery. Seems like simple things but in a quad this size isn't normal.
Nick I finally got that betafpv Lite Radio 2 I can't get it to bind up to nothing neither one of my tiny Max's I don't know nothing about betaflight so therefore I guess I'm screwed
@@NickBurnsFPV oh sorry tiny emaxx just the 1st one that came out okay everything works on all the lights whenever I change modes frequency on camera even the lights change it does everything but engage for just ate it does not arm or disarm even on the on-screen display it doesn't even have the word armed or disarmed on it it does everything but arms
@@raydesheles9205 It could be setup for a two switch arming, we likely need to plug it into betaflight to see what switches trigger the arming, or keep trying different switches and combinations.
Hi Nick Great video and review of the Sub Atomic. I used to call the bug , Water Sketters, but I don't know it looks good with out the 360go. I have been wanting to get one of those new cameras when they come out also. I have built a little 3in and I don't fly it much around others, it's a screamer. LOL Thanks again for the video and information.
The AIO is not flywoo, its JHEMCU GHF13AIO.
For your custom build needs contact Adam and/or Connor on FaceBook below.
Adam bit.ly/2lMqdqe
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U have theBetaFpv lite radio 2 _ the guy I bought it from came with a betafpv lite. #1 tiny hawk the 1st one by emaxx& I've tried the was that you don't have it get. Onto betaflight
@@raydesheles9205 I wonder in what way the binding process is failing? Are you following a manual or process for the quad and another for the radio? And what is that process? button presses? Lights? battery plugin? Usb plugin?
@@NickBurnsFPV hey I have been trying to get my sub atomic going but for some reason something goes wrong. Everything was working until i put A receiver in it and not i dont get the motors to beep. Is the a drone similar to it that is already built cause I have gone threw 2 FC trying to get it to work.
Hey Nick! Have you heard anything about GnarlyFPV going out of business?? 🧐
Looks like their domain redirects to a weird German ad/search site. 😂
@@willpowerfpv3246 Yes. I believe he stopped designing and selling about 2020. Tomoquads about the same.
And I LOVE this thing, I gotta have one! No joke, 3 or 4 years ago I would sit around and dream of quads like this, and whoops with digital HD video! What a time to be alive, and to be in this hobby; how lucky are we...?!
yea, top mount with a 16x16 stack and a camera in that tight package. Gnarlyfpv did have the guppy similar design, but there were issues with getting a camera in and camera angle. :(
@@NickBurnsFPV A couple years ago GnarlyFPV used to sell this tiny little frame on their replacement frames page, it was like a whoop-sized frame, but for the life of me I can't remember the name, or find a pic of it. Basically the bottom plate of the Sub Atomic. It used a 16x16 stack mounted diagonally, and one of the NewBeeDrone camera mounts like Kabab's Toothpicks, and whoop props. I kept wanting to order one, but never did, and then it disappeared. I'm glad this new one is out, it's an improvement on that design, I didn't like the camera mount; this one is so much better.
I absolutely love my Sub Atomic! Definitely looking forward to the new Insta360 release!
Here in the comments, they may have been a leak indicating the new version is 30grams. I hope not, we will find out soon.
Thanks for the shout out man I really appreciate it I just finished one up for someone that saw your video thanks again!!!
Ayyy! insane 3 minute Insta360 go flight time!
Sorry about the stock everyone! The last 3 bathes sold out within a couple of hours each. The next batch is about 2 weeks out. We put up a small preorder window for this batch by request for anyone looking to secure a kit. There will be more kits available when the kits are prepared (About 2 weeks out from the date of this comment)
Updates:
The rear mount has been updated to accommodate larger gauged wire.
Countersunk stack screws
Tag us on instagram @gnarlyfpv or #Gnarlyfpvsubatomic #subatomic with your builds :D
-Gnarlyfpv
Hi! Do you plan on having stock again for the small and the 2" Sub Atomics?
@@ivanluhi Yes! Very soon.
@@gnarlyfpv2285 oh great!
Awesome looking little quad, Nick! Really nice! 😃
Fantastic flying and review!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
This looks amazing.. When I saw there was a chance to win one, I jumped up off the sofa and ran to the computer to submit my entry! What a great little kit.
Well I am glad your excited, but please don't strain anything :)
Well, I couldn't resist, just pre-ordered one. I don't think Ive been this excited about a 65mm quad!
lol. I think it pretty fun.
Thats a super nice frame, that seems to fly really well 👌
I love doing small builds, the challenge of keeping everything neat and tidy. They are soo much quitter when you fly them.
They are a fun puzzle for sure. And so discrete, really a fly any where sort of quad.
Gerridae.... Also known as the 'water skimmer/skipper/skeeter/skater/strider/spider', the ponds behind my house were full of them when I was a kid, loved them! Love this li'l skimmer as well, it's like a tiny little 'Tadpole' from Armattan, my favorite quad of the last six months..!
I was thinking water strider, but as crowdsourcing goes we did get it down to Gerridae. Now the real question, did you know Gerridae or did you look it up? Either way, thanks for helping find the name.
@@NickBurnsFPV Believe it or not, I knew it..! Waaay back in the 80's I was the weird kid with a net and a jar who spent all day out in the fields catching every six-legged creepy crawly I could, then went to the library and looked them up, made little labels, etc... Then in my early teens I realized entomologists covered in bug bites didn't get quite as many girls as lead guitarists with long hair, and well, life took a left turn... No regrets tho, I've had fun (probably more than my share), I ran a recording studio, did some tours, and later became a guitar builder; but sometimes I think back wistfully to those days out in the fields, and wonder what might have been... C'est la vie, eh?
@@jackmaddox4960 Impressive retention of that knowledge. Did your school have that "science" project of collecting insects, pinning them to a cork board and labeling them?
@@NickBurnsFPV No, but I was doing that on my own by age 10, then a science teacher in Jr. High, Mr. Gonzales, let me use his lab after school, and helped me out, basically for extra credit. He also helped me start our school's first model rocket club, the Pinewood Derby Club, and even the (admittedly small) 'Folded Folio Forum', or paper airplane club! I always loved them, as did he, so we'd meet with a few other students and exchange designs & ideas, make a bunch, then launch them out the 2nd floor lab window into the main courtyard to see how far they'd go. He was a great teacher, the last really dedicated teacher I had, honestly. Not too many like that anymore, sadly... Apologies for the long trip down memory lane, not really the forum for it here... :-)
Also that sealed printed parts pack actually has TWO of the antenna mount pieces that go on the front under the camera, allowing for more different antenna configurations...
That's the perfect size
😎👍
Water skeeters. 😆 nice little drone.
My best Quad is from Conner! Total worth every penny for that mini!
Awesome little quad. 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice little build! Would like one for myself.
I’m a 5” guy but I LOVE MICROS! I fly EVERY day because of micros and my IMO I fly better for it. Another great video brother👍🏽
This little thing looks epic just preordered mine
I just got the fc and the frame. I’m waiting on the motors to come back in stock. Looks like so much fun!
The wait is the worst.
@@NickBurnsFPV but it’s worth the wait!!!
Nice frame great review I would love to build one of these.
Nice to flight this one around my house!!!
Hi bro this thing is awesome tiny, thanks for sharing
for me, the Tinyhwak Freestyle 2 with the TinysLED Sled to hold the TBS tracer receiver and the TBS unify Nanno pro is the pinnacle of small drones. It's such a good drone you get so much fly time, agility, and crash ability out of the tinyhawk fs2. Throw a Insta360 and you almost won't Notice that it's there. after a few packs!
I like what you did with the antenna tube on the front! I might have to steal that idea~~
that was all gnarly
@@NickBurnsFPV Hehe cool. I only considered that a mount for a Minimortal-T antenna. I’ll be trying that method with my XM+.
This one looks great - small and nimble
Thanks for the great video. I would love that little bugger. I starting to build my own small quads to better understand setups and tweaking. That way I can build exactly what I want.
Great little picket beast
That motor size notably the betafpv 1102 - 13500kv, are so versatile. Ive bought more than 6 sets and made varying builds with them over the past year.
What kind of builds you have with them?
@@NickBurnsFPV ultra light 1s 2.5inch toothpick, a 1080p hd 75mm 2s whoop, and my igow 2s 75mm whoop. So far, maybe one of those open prop 40mm propeller builds next.
Lol, now I know why I can’t find any. Have fun!
That is so cool I want one lol thanks for sharing Nick
Nice little frame. Finding myself more attracted to these smaller quads lately! Just destroyed my tinyhawk 2 freestyle board. Only to realize afterwards how proprietary emax products are. This looks like a nice alternative.
yea, emax has like to use their own parts, but I do see they might be changing their ways. The nanohawk used a standard sized board. A move in the right direction.
I just blew the fets on my second th2 freestyle board...decided to replace it with a geprc phantom. But I'm definitely going to build one of these too!
I do enjoy your revues Nick
Thank you
Looks like a good pal for the Happymodel Mantis 85 :D
Water skippers, or striders!
Yeah water skippers!
In the UK I know them as "pond skaters". But the correct insect name is "Gerridae" (I had to look it up TBH).
Oh hell yeah. That's cute and cool at the same time
Probably a nice frame upgrade for mine turbobee77r!!
LoL its called a water strider brother... I got you 👍👍 little thing looks cool
ah there we go. Thank you
this little guy is sitting on my shelf with the aio right next to it waiting to be built. i hear rumor this will do 110x motors, may try it out. i already flew the GnarlyFPV Guppy V3 until too many trees grounded the little guy. nice vid.
Yes, we have 1102 on this iteration.
@@NickBurnsFPV Here I am ripping the Guppy (Subatomic precursor) pretty hard into the punchouts on 0802 Xing motors and 40mm Gemfans: th-cam.com/video/PvT1Qkj-7TA/w-d-xo.html. You should feel free to huck it over your house, sir :) - I was perhaps a tiny bit disappointed you did not in your video! :) I enjoy your vids, thank you.
I love these tiny quads!
I built from the ground up a tomoquads corsa with 1103 2s and it's my favorite bomber
Looks good kinda reminds me of the micro heli frame
I was lucky enough to get one couple weeks ago had to use 11500 kv motors that where a little heavier than what they recommend but I can get 3:30 if I'm really flying or more just cruising. Its an excellent kit comes with everything. The jhemcu aio I used didn't come with gummies but the kit included them. Good stuff
Good info there. Thank you
This is awesome! I'm surprised how smooth the instac was.
Water skipper?
This is cool!
I built a 85mm ,2-6s fc, 1104 4500kv!
Rips with the Insta360Go!
Iv ran it on 5s!
A
What 5s pack are you using?
@@hunterbodell1129 a 3s and a 2s connected together!
I flew 6s,
Once!😂
This is a nice cine weapon in combo with go 2.
I haven't used it with the go 2 yet. Unfortunately the go 2 is heavier than the original. not sure how it would impact the flight.
@@NickBurnsFPV this seems as a strong machine. I guess it will have no problems carrying it, even eith 10 grams more (doubt the new cam is that much heavier?).
@@vladimircerovic I don't have one yet, but I do think its about 10grams more than the original. :(
What substitutes would you recommend for the aio and the motors? Thanks for any info!
That is a good question. I did look around some and didn't find a 16x16 aio and the JHEMCU is largely out of stock. I did find pyrodrone.com does show them in stock.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks! I ordered the aio from pyrodrone since they had them in stock!
@@maliqblaq Maybe we will see more of these boards, but at this time that's the only one I could find.
How about designing a 3d print 16x16 to whoop board, I don't mine flying this frame on 1s whoop board eventhough there are whoop board out there that can do 2-6s but the problem is that this frame has limited space and aio whoop board like the HM with receiver and vtx onboard can easily save space while other whoop board still need external receiver and vtx were no space available anymore.
Thanks for the shout out! If anyone is looking for any kinda build feel free to hit me up on here or on facebook =]
I may need to get me one of these frames lol
Hey Nick - water sliders are what I think you are referring to. Maybe it's an air slider?
Outstanding! Finally a true, real, micro quad!! I just built one very similar to this. I love these tiny little rippers!!! Mine is essentially a Spedix Rex, 1103 11,000kv motors, 20amp stack, more powerful VTX than the stock one, and Crossfire! ... to make it virtually failsafe proof! Too bad it's so damn rainy up here in Oregon, but a nice spell is coming first of the week. Last nice spell got up to 61 degrees!
Anyway, glad to see there are still co0ol little rippers coming out instead of the slow, boring long range and cinewho0p barges. Thanks Nick, nicely done, Bro! =(:^)-
I likely said it in the video, but with these super small ones, in the back of my mind I know it won't have the pure performance we can often be searching for, so just fly around and have fun. Not trying to go fast or hit a super big move, all small moves. :)
PS...Every time you fly your yard I think you're gonna go between those perfect "V's" in the two trees at the very back left hand corner/side of your yard. I'd love it if you'd start incorporating those into your flights around your yard. It would add another dimension to your test flights, those and some other great gaps in between the multiple trees you have. A lot of us don't have those to take advantage of! Thanks again! ;)
@@NickBurnsFPV Sure, I feel the same way! They're so darn fun it doesn't mater if there are many other quads that go much faster, or do tricks better, these are so tiny and quiet, you can fly them anywhere...and hit very small gaps...that's a lot of the appeal!!
I look at them like a who0p, but without the ducts, so maybe we should call them a nakEd who0p rippEr ! LOL
@@noforyoutubepremium3108 I will investigate those gap!
@@noforyoutubepremium3108 naked whoop is a really good name. I was out over lunch working on power looping the pergola, margin for error is small enough I got hung up in the trees twice. Luckily the contractor ladders where still on patio :)
Reminds me of the tadpole frame and the iflight turbo bee that I've been working on for a year now lol!
yes, it does. I think there is something to the arm design that makes it fly well.
@@NickBurnsFPV agreed! They are a great design for flight characteristics, durability, and they look cool! If we stretched it out a bit more could maybe make a 2s mid range cruiser with the right gear! That would be really cool! Maybe a thinner top plate for weight saving! But this for factor and size I think is fun to fly, more places to fly them, risk of injury and damage is minimal like you said so it's more fun and more relaxing to buzz around with!
@@NickBurnsFPV another great video as usual! Thank you! When I get my act together I'll join your patron! Been a long time subscriber and really appreciate your honest reviews and flight videos! Sharkbyte with aomway commander v1 goggles? Worth it. Not a fan of the dji setup but sharkbyte is intriguing me!
@@jbizzbuildsmanstuff9932 Yea, I don't think the v1 commanders will show the SharkByte video all that well. I can't recommend a Shark Byte purchase if paired with those goggles. I could be wrong as my commander use is very dated.
@@NickBurnsFPV I'm more concerned with video link vs picture quality. I will get a better pair eventually just hate how bulky dji setup is! Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a set but it's alot of weight to add to a quad. I think if they sold a video only version of the TX ware if you don't use the dji controller (I'm a crossfire guy) it would need less electronics there for make it smaller for whoops and that sort of thing but I could be wrong with this! Sharkbyte is like adding a turtle V2 or a split. No biggy. Thanks for the reply!
I've been flying Tomoquads Baby Evo 2 for quite some time. Similar setup, 40mm props and 1102 14000kv GepRc motors. It's a great fun setup for yard and park flying. I've found that the old style HQ 4 blade props fly best with good smooth power and lower amp draw. But, they are very fragile.
yea, I can't seem to keep HQ props running on this one. :)
Gnarly frames rock.
Any thoughts on an alternative motor? These are very hard to find. Thanks for another great video!
An alternative I would be the eachine novice motor its a 1102 13500kv I only see it on banggood.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you very much for the information!
@@Js93js93 sure. have fun!
Yeeess been waiting for your review for a bit now
Holy crap that thing is tiny and so fast! Size can be deceiving😂
Are you referring to the water skater?
Yes, I believe so. I found a wiki page on it, this bug has a number of names it seemly goes by.
Great review my friend🙂👊👍
Hey Nick, how has your experience been with the apex and auline batteries compared to gnb? Specifically looking the the 500ishmah 4s. Thanks
the auline batteries has been largely on par with GNB, except the 4s 500mah, doesn't perform as well as GNB. When your asking about apex is that the motors or am I mistaken. If motors hard to say, as I had one fail as I was working on the tune. So that isn't good.
@@NickBurnsFPV Specifically talking about the batteries. I'll stick with the gnb batteries then, appreciate it thanks!!
@@travismiller8232 Not familiar with apex batteries. Poking around I see some apex lipo accessories but no batteries on amazon that I found.
@@NickBurnsFPV I spotted them on pyrodrone's website but haven't heard anything on them yet. Maybe I'll buy a couple to test them out.
Have you tried flashing JESC on ESC controllers? Fly times should be better on it
I have used JESC and BlueJay, as well as JazzMaverick. At this time my preference is bluejay. Changing the khz does help with flight time on micros, it also changes the low throttle response. Outside I find 48khz works well, inside I find the higher khz has a negative impact on my flying, makes turns at speed more challenging, as the props slow down slower.
Nice video👍🏼👍🏼. 90% of my builds are Gnarlyfpv frames. They make some high quality kits with a lot of focus on the little details.
I call dibs on the sub! Even pay shipping! ;)
looks fun
How about a review on the Newbeedrone mosquito? All these itty bitty quads look so much fun!
Its coming, should be this week.
what type of connector does the battery have? I've never seen a connector like this before.
That is fairly new. About 3-4months ago it launched. Its called the GNB27, made by GNB.
I ordered 2 of the last batch for a friend and me to build them with the Happymodel 1103 10.000kv and can't wait to get it finished. Still waiting for all the parts.
What was your auw with the insta 360?
Do you think the tattu r-line 550mah (about 30g) will be too heavy for it? I have 3 laying around here
auw with 360 was 83grams. I have heard some are using in the 400-450mah size, but not as large as the 550. It might work, the battery will hang off the back, likely need more pitch I and possibly P&D as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for that information, I guess these lipos will be laying around for a longer time 😅
For anyone around who is interested in this.
I flew it with these batteries, today. Yes they are heavy and you can do some freestyle with it but have to be careful because of the heavy weight. But if you fly it like a whoop without doing acro tricks, I flew 9min a pack wich is impressive.
I will test 350mah and maybe even 3s in a few days. Feel free to ask me
I received mine a few days ago and that zip lock bag isnt sealed at the top. you can just open the zip without tearing off the top, mine also did not arrive with countersunk screws, does not look as good, the countersunk screws makes the look. and mine arrived with 2 of those mounts for an immortal t antenna
I get with the shop, I am sure they would send what isn't right.
Cool frame/build! I checked out the shop 90% of the stuff is sold out.
That does happen with small designers. They keep pretty low stock. If you want one, likely have to pre-order.
@@NickBurnsFPV I'm to impulsive for preorder lol. But very cool frames. I like different style frames that fly well
As sophisticated men we called em water skeeters
Looks like the gnarly whoop
Do I have to do any drilling to fit the mobula7 FC 25.5x25.5mm? Seems to only have 16x16 holes.
A whoop board for this frame might need an adapter mount, if you can 3d print one (just a suggestion) that would be your best option. Gnarlyfpv aiming this frame for 16x16 JHEMCU 13a but that don't mean you can't make a whoop board to fit. I have this frame coming and my 1s whoop is waiting to get the guts transferred.
@@Bisdak.3475 Thank you. Found an adapter on banggood now. Don't have a printer yet. Even if I don't use the Crazybee F4 pro, I still prefer the jhemcu ghf411 (25.5x25.5) over the ghf13.
@@dubswagen I have a 85 whoop with that 25.5x25.5 JHEMCU board and it is fun to fly, it doesn't even feel like a whoop when it's up in the air lol
I am not sure a 25.5mm board will even fit. It looks like its close but it will be against the camera if it does fit, then mounting, yes there are no holes for 25.5mm board I don't think there is enough carbon on the bottom plate to dill holes to try to fit it, would likely have to use foam tape to hold the board. Its very risky to try this, could end up with it not working. I would go with the 16x16 board the frame was designed for.
@@NickBurnsFPV Alright. Thanks for the response. I'll buy the frame first, and take a look and then get the FC. Was hoping to just transfer my mobula7 to it.
Hey there nick! Was thinking of running this on 3s with 1102 9000kv motors... What do you think?
yea, maybe even 10000kv for more top end punch. Likely need to run a small 300mah 3s, but if we have 350mah we can try that as well. I only worry the length of the 350mah could be an issue.
@@NickBurnsFPV I will have to give that a try then. Got some 1103 10000kv I could give a go too
@@valden Just my $.02, I would stick with 1102, the 1103 is over a gram more per motor and doesn't have the performance boost we might expect. I switched my sharkbyte whoop the 40gram one from 1103 and to 1102 and felt it flew better.
Awesome speaking of awesome you guys remember the arfun 90 that thing was a beast... rest in pieces 😥☠
ah yes, I had totally forgotten about that one. I did a search and found my own video :)
@@NickBurnsFPV just watched it again to kill time bad luck with that one.... lol I forgot you use to be all hands 😆
@@shenanigan3083 Yes, I had one camera....the comment I hear the most from those that have been around awhile, refer to the "talking hands".
Seems it can handle the extra weight no problem. Have you tried a 450mah 2s?
I haven't tried a 450, its a bit long for the little frame, hangs over both ends.
I have been running 2s 800mah 50c on mine with the Insta360 Go and have been getting 6+ min flight times. Barely notice the extra weight with the 1202.5 motors.
So who's the lucky winner? Thanks for the flight
Luis E. I posted the winner on the Community page.
this THIS is what ive been waiting for oh yeah thats a defo buy looks fun
Hey nick, I think the new insta360 go is much heavier. I think I heard 30g somewhere but don’t quote me on that
oh dang it, 30grams might be to much for little guys like this. Lets hope for less.
@@NickBurnsFPV people are really hoping the don’t discontinue the v1.
@@NickBurnsFPV actually turns out it’s around 26g. Still a lot heavier but not quite 30g
Hey Nick, when are you going to fly a Xclass? Just for the contrast 👍
lol, no plans on exploring that. I haven't flown a 5inch in years. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Micros FTW! What about a sub250g xclass? I'm so tempted to build one!
@@xarisrig7561 That would have to be made from spider web :)
Wondering if anyone can help me. Using JHEMCU GHF13 AIO F4 and diagram shows vtx pad, but not sure if its battery voltage or 5v. As far as 5v I only see one for camera. Where would I solder the 5v vtx I'm going to use. Want to avoid burning vtx out. Happen to me on another build since VTX pad was not labelled battery voltage.
See this image, there is 5v for camera but the other is vcc or battery voltage. We can use any 5v pad, like the one for led. cdn.getfpv.com/media/wysiwyg/JHEMCU-GHF13AIO_8.jpg
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you. I totally missed the buzzer 5v.
sweet little frame, its so tiny.
Nick, I'm thinking to give a chance to FPV, I have like regular DJI drones. Could you suggest me one of those small FPV drones good to start and training? Of course, goggles and remote also. Thanks (I know you may get this question way too much, but I'm kinda lost since there are way to many options).
To start, I suggest getting a radio first. The radiomaster tx16 or tx16s are good radios. I would use that radio to start using a computer fpv simulator, like velocidrone or tinywhoopgo. After some practice, when you think you are ready or the budget allows. I suggest getting a mobula 6, very popular and durable and small so it can be flown almost any ware, except in high winds. For goggles, I would start with the eachine ev800d, or the eachine ev800dm. If your very sure you are going to stay in the hobby for several years, goggles like the fatshark hod2 or skyzone 04x or orca fvp one goggles are premium googles.
@@NickBurnsFPV Awesome Nick, SUPER helpful thanks ALOT. Yeah I'm going to order that radio now and practice in the simulator for sure! Thanks so much for the attention, I bet you get that question so much, and even so, you answered so nice. Thanks.
@@NickBurnsFPV Was about to buy and there are many versions of the same radio, Mode 1 and 2, is it able to change that later, or it is pre defined forever? There are Hall version 1 and 2... and TBS 1 and 2!!!
@@rodrigodiniz13 We can change it, but I have never done it. I think we have to take it apart and move the gimbal wires around to how they connect. I do think most fly mode 2 with throttle on the left.
@@rodrigodiniz13 Its a question that comes up from time to time. I do try to answer all questions on the channel. Its a fun part of this hobby for me.
Awww how cute ☺️
I see your channel as the San Antonio Spurs small market but championship quality 👌👏 you are the reason I just do micro now thx keep the great work you are appreciated thx and start that discord
I do really need to do a discord. My number 1 concern is it would turn into the wild west.
Yeah I get it can't wait to see your mosquito review from NewBeeDrone curious to see what electronics you use I used my hummingbird brushless flies great but only 1 30 flight time that's the let down
@@anthonycadejr3995 Which batteries are you running? I find the NBD Nitro Nectar gold are the best 300mah batteries out there, even better than 350mahs
Whats the range on this
It will depend on the vtx and rx used. In this case, while I didn't test with a 400mw vtx and the xm rx, I would expect the limit to be the rx at about 80meters.
We call them water striders here in California.
I’m a fan of gnarlyfpv frames. I have too many of the 2.5” primos. They are robust and last. I need more of the 3” and now this size too.
I agree! the only negative of GnarlyFPV is that they never restock!
Now I want an X8 of this size! for science :)
Too bad X8 AIO aren't a thing (yet)
I really wish there were kits for sub250 drones.
Kits to build it ourselves?
@@NickBurnsFPV yea, like having a set parts curated by well known pilots or groups. Most of the kits i find are 5inch beginner builds. I rather new to the hobby so maybe i'm looking at all right places.
@@SensorDelay ah yes that is understandable. We don't find much of that these days. Most of the time the BNF are so cheap and ready to go the market for a kit is small unless its endorsed by someone. I have been asked, but I stayed away. Manufactures could change something or have a defective run of components. Risky.
Neat company, wish they had more in stock
small independent designers have to keep stock low. I am not surprised its pre-order, likely already sold his initial stock of 20 or so.
This tiny drone looks similar to the martus 85 From happy model!!!!!
It does, boy the mantis is a few years old now.
Just got my Frame, gonna try and put 1202.6 on there and Bi blades from the mobulite7. What do you think of that setup? Will it work? Will I burn my motors?
I installed Flywoo 1202.5 115000kv on mine and is has a great amount of power to carry the Insta360 Go. I haven't experienced any motor burn as of yet, but I do fly "cinematically" and rarely hit 100% throttle. The hover point is between 30-40% with 2s HV. I am running Gemfan 1635R Props.
I don't think you will burn your motors, but I suspect the hover point will be push 40-50% throttle. Might not have much punch. I would have some quad blade props on hand to try as well.
I hope the new insta 360 are under 200,And i hope they figured out how to manage the heat, the original wasn't meant for fpv, but figured since we keep em cooler by flying . It looks a lot like the mantis 85.
Oh man, I really, really, really want one of these frames. I wish they had some in stock! Maybe I might win a frame from you Nick! Thanks for the review, this thing looks awesome! It looks like a nano Armattan quad.
Yea, I think the stock will be based on web traffic to the site or pre-orders.
@@NickBurnsFPV Funny thing, the day I received the email from GnarlyFPV announcing it, I wrote a review.....but I made it clear in the "review" that I don't have one. I was just too excited about it, I had to make a comment on it. LOL
@@housinit Sorry about the stock situation Luis! We've had all past 3 batches sell out within 2 hours each. The next batch will be ready in about 2 weeks. We started a small preorder window on this batch due to the amount of requests for one. The window for preorders is small so stock will still be available outside of those orders when the kits are ready. Thank you for the interest! and the comment! :D
-Gnarlyfpv
@@gnarlyfpv2285 Thanks for reaching out! Love you guys over there at GnarlyFPV. I just preordered one about a half hour ago. Can't wait! Thanks for the info!
@@housinit The design isn't something I have seen much have, no props in view and top mount battery. Seems like simple things but in a quad this size isn't normal.
Nick I finally got that betafpv Lite Radio 2 I can't get it to bind up to nothing neither one of my tiny Max's I don't know nothing about betaflight so therefore I guess I'm screwed
What is a tiny max? When you say you can't get it to bind what process are you using to bind?
@@NickBurnsFPV oh sorry tiny emaxx just the 1st one that came out okay everything works on all the lights whenever I change modes frequency on camera even the lights change it does everything but engage for just ate it does not arm or disarm even on the on-screen display it doesn't even have the word armed or disarmed on it it does everything but arms
@@raydesheles9205 It could be setup for a two switch arming, we likely need to plug it into betaflight to see what switches trigger the arming, or keep trying different switches and combinations.
This would be really sweet to mount the motors on the bottom and flip everything upsidedown and run 3 inch props.
That is a unique idea, I wonder if can get enough camera uptilt we do have that void to help us. 3inch props won't work but maybe 2.5
I believe you are referring to a pond skater.
maybe, I am not familiar with that name, but sounds plausible.
good looking frame! ...but I think props are too small for that weight.
btw, new insta360go 2 will be cost 300$, unfortunately :/
Now for a 6s version bwahahaha!!! Appreciate the giveaways when you can!!!
6 x Cheerson CX10 batts 😂
Hi Nick Great video and review of the Sub Atomic. I used to call the bug , Water Sketters, but I don't know it looks good with out the 360go. I have been wanting to get one of those new cameras when they come out also. I have built a little 3in and I don't fly it much around others, it's a screamer. LOL Thanks again for the video and information.
Yes, these types are just so toy like and innocent, just go out and have a nice fun time. Water sketters, sounds like a good descriptive name.
Water Strider / Pond Skater :)
What he said lol☝️