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The the fact that this whole “you can just skip The Great Divide altogether” idea has just kinda passively been floating around the Avatar fan community for years and years is absolutely unacceptable to me.
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What's funny is this is actually the first episode I ever saw of Avatar the last Airbender. Pretty glad I didn't skip it or else I never would've seen the rest of the series!
My very first episode of the series I have ever watched was the last one of the series 😅
Same, I saw it in a dentist's office. It had me hooked, and since it was filler it kinda served as a hook for the rest of the series in a way
It's the first episode for most people because it was aired the most for some unknown reasons (at least in my country)
It's because it was forced to be made as a spoiler free episode not part of the main story. SO that it could be used as a rerun episode. So it played all the time even though it's really not great
This video has nothing to do with exposure like that, it doesn't apply to exposure at all, the problem is that this video is a Strawman and Tu Quoque fallacy over skipping The Great Divide because its a trash episode by saying "but its so inspired, look at all the inspiration it has in" which first off is a brainlet take, just because something is inspired by something, no matter how good, does not excuse watching it, if Avatar was a bad show, it doesn't matter how inspired it is, there would be no reason to watch it then, I don't care about the inspiration, that's irrelevant to it being a good show, that's a double standard. This comment specifically is also an irrelevant conclusion fallacy, just because this episode exposed people to the show does not mean that anyone who knows about it and is going to watch the show already should bother even watching this episode.
"Don' skip the great divide" or the other name could be "Avatar is based on anime, which you knew but how exactly"
I actually did want to see if there were some hidden themes or meaning within the episode that i never caught, but this video seems to boil down to "this is a reference to anime." It's cool to see the specific stylistic references, but the title and the episode is pretty irrelevant to the subject matter explored. We spend about 5 minutes actually talking about The Great Divide.
I was about to comment something similar she spends only like 3 minutes of this video talking about the great decide
@@bookworm4133 the point is that by skipping the episode you miss out on all the artistic details put in by the creators that both enhance the experience and call back to their inspirations for the series
@@Ivyrigs i get that, but it would've been more effective if we had actually talked about The Great Divide more. This video could be called "The Stylistic Influences of ATLA" because it's so general and encompasses so many different scenes and episodes. Ironically, for a video titled "Don't Skip The Great Divide", the actual episode is glossed over pretty quickly.
what's the great divide got to do with anime? nothing ever comes back, it's worthless, I don't watch anime but I do know it's the animation of a manga, am I missing out something big?
I love how this video is called “don’t skip the great divide” and it’s a video pretty much solely about anime influences in avatar
I always liked the Great Divide, it's a fun romp with fun characters and an interesting look into the malleability of oral storytelling
I swear I didn't mean for this to come out right before the live action Netflix release. I've had this script on my computer for like a year and I just so happened to get around to editing it right when the last trailer dropped and it was incredibly relevant to the topic of the video. lmao
I dont care
@@3corazonesy2anos I don't care that you don't care
@@Mandus_The_Mad i dont care that you dont care that i dont care 👁👄👁💅
Who asked?
@@wackyotter1235 joe asked
Incredibley BASED, as a kid this was my FAVORITE episode
It was my first exposure to the idea of the noble lie
AS a kid you thought ANYTHING was good
I rewatch atla (and korra) on an annual basis and never once have I skipped this episode. It honestly has a lot of great moments despite being the weakest in the show. My favorite moment in the episode is where Aang is alone at the top looking out over the two separated tribes/camps and the canyon guide shows up and says to him: "lonely isn't it? being impartial." This scene perfectly sums up his predicament as the avatar and why he was so hesitant to embrace this role in the first place. It is a visual representation of how his position isolates him from other people, which is something that's elaborated on in the next episode (The Storm), but the idea is first introduced in this episode. I think The Great Divide is an example for how well-paced atla really is.
this episode is in and of itself a great divide: you have those who call this filler and "not worth your time" and then you have those who say this episode belongs on the watchlist
The great divide was us all along?
Inspiration is not an argument for why it shouldn't be skipped, that's a copout so you don't have to argue about why it should be skipped, its basically a Strawman and Tu Quoque fallacy.
@@Spartan322 if you disagree with the "inspiration" argument, please comment on the video instead of replying to my comment, it makes the person who brought it up (the uploader this video) more likely to read your point of view..
i didn't mention this argument in my comment..
@@12DAMDO I already did, you reinforced the video's point, hence why I also responded to you, I don't think he's gonna care anyway about my comment though.
@@Spartan322 i didn't mention the argument of influence.. i just said this episode divided the fanbase in those who call it filler, and those who understand the show and why this episode belongs on the watchlist..
My distaste for The Great Divide comes from the writing aspect and not the animation aspect. Having the two tribes dislike each other over an event that occurred so long before that nobody likely remembers what actually happened was good conflict, but my main complaint was Sokka and Katara turning on each other by siding with the tribe that they each spent the previous night with and learned each side's take on the event instead of meeting with Aang and sharing what they learned about the conflict between the two tribes. I get it, Sokka and Katara are siblings, and siblings will have their disagreements on certain things, but they are also part of Team Avatar and should have tried to stay as neutral as possible despite what they learned about the conflict.
On a side note, based on the tales of the two tribes, I think one of either Jin Wei or Wei Jin was working in tandem with Fire Lord Sozin, because when the actual initial conflict took place kind of lines up with Aang's disappearance, which we would learn about in The Storm just one episode later. Or it could have been just pure coincidence and has nothing to do with Sozin's global conquest.
Not just siblings, but kids, and the episode set up that they were already getting on each other's nerves for, in principle, the _same_ things the Gan-Jin and Zhangs ragged on each other for. So their stories inflamed those immediate irritations. No doubt if they'd been older and more mature, they would have responded differently.
It's... just a bad story. Sure, there are moral lessons imparted with this episode. But the writing is clunky and awkward. The few redeeming moments this episode has does not make up for the banality of its storytelling, the cliches piled atop each other, and obvious virtue signaling. I don't get the love for this episode... and it has one of my favorite voice actors in it, as well. Sorry to everyone else, it's still a skip, for me.
they're 14 and 15 years old lmao they're not going to have top tier interpersonal communication skills
@@SirRebrlThe reason they get on each other's nerve though is very... Forced.
Like out of character, these two have never argued as bad as they did in episodes prior over something as small as setting up a tent and getting kindling.
What i hate about this episode is not just the "solution," but the fact that GREAT SOLUTION was there all along and no one noticed it.
Like One tribe saying their founder was tripped and robbed while other tribe says their founder simply found the dude passed out and took the sphere to complete the ritual in his stead.
At the time when I first watched it (11-13 years old) I IMEDIATELY thought: "Wow they are both telling the truth, they just do not realize it!"
I thought one founder performed the ritual, but passed out and the other continued it to help, but once he arrived the white clad tribesmen did not believe the guy and punished him for "Theft" sparking the whole conflict, so if Gaang just explained it it would have been great episode, instead of Aang lying.
I will say, sometimes a convenient lie is easier than the truth. Some people just have so much difficulty with grey zones that only dumbing something down can bring peace
I didnt even know people used to skip ATLA episodes. I have no clue how people can skip anything of this masterpiece
Uncultured, that's how.
@@diy_cat9817Idk... I think this is the only episode people skip, and while I've personally watched it both times I've watched the show, I understand why people would skip it, and I will probably start doing it from now on too.
Now-, I understand why you would feel that way, people should just watch the show and form their own opinions, and you should definitely not skip an episode in your first time watching the show, but as someone who didn't watch the show on release, but in order, and also as someone who didnt interact with the online community until after watching the show, I remember clearly that the first time I watched this episode I thought it was THAT bad. Like-, the thing is, this episode isn't even a bad Avatar episode (Like-, yk, the show being so good that this episode stands out as mid), but this is actually a bad episode in general, like-, actually awful. I wouldn't say that it was because the showrunners were lazy (definitely not, as seen in this video, which shows how much effort they put into the animation and that kind of stuff), I also don't find it bad for being filler (I'm a person who actually likes filler episodes for what they might do or just for the fun of it), but this episode is like-, straight up bad. Every character acts like there was a gas leak (Especially Katara), the problem of the episode and its resolution were really culturally insensitive and the message it gives comes from a place of absolutely missing the point they might have been trying to make. It's a really, like-, REALLY bad episode. So even tho I understand why you would feel upset about people skipping an episode without even trying to watch it, calling them "Uncultured" is kinda-, I think you're ignoring the fact that this episode is actually terrible and actively damages the show and the message it tries to convey, it is absolutely worth skipping and we shouldn't shame on people for deciding not to engage in an universally hated episode that retroactively tarnishes this masterpiece of a show
@@Multxverse Well, sure, I mostly just forget or ignore its existence until it's brought to my attention again, saying it tarnishes the show is an exaggeration, buuut I genuinely do think it's a really bad episode so honestly while writing the comment I was just pissed off about its existence
I’ll watch the great divide episode on a watch through, Before I’ll watch the Appas lost days episode. Idc how meaningful that episode is, I will not put myself through that emotional trauma willingly.
Ugh. I have to mentally prepare for The Tales of Ba Sing Se. But never skip.
When you mention the Spike/Jet reference something in my brain clicked open.
I KNOW RIGHT
It is so obvious now!
NO FR! something just MADE SENSE
I’m so happy that you made this! It’s actually one of my favorites… I’m 27 and grew with the show. Jong jong was a favorite too
not sure why this video is titled the way it is. Feels like it spends Very little time defending the episode and is moreso a discussion of how great the animation in the show is in its entirety. Kinda lost focus i think
Yea, it didn't really convince me to stop skipping it. He brought some interesting points in the first minute, but beyond that, didn't really give any further reasons to watch it (unless you're watching purely for the animations).
That's true. About that... many people didn't like the ending when Aang lies about the story of the two guys in order to lead the tribes to make peace. However, I find this actually very practical, since in real life, both the lack or the excess of historical memory can lead you to war; just take a look at the conflict in middle east, where history backs all sides with a lot of reasons to hate and kill each other. If you are too anchored in your history and traditions, you might never be able to make the necessary changes to give your people a good future. That's just my opinion.
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You mention not finding any instance of anyone on the anime team mentioning Imaishi by name. I did a little research into this a couple years ago because I also thought the Imiashi influence was so clear. In the Avatar Extras event on Nickelodeon, they showed a bunch of extra facts and comments by Avatar writers while re-airing all the episodes. During the great divide, they say this: "The Zhang flashback was designed and animated to pay homage to Japanese animator Hiroyuki Imaishi's style." and "Hiroyuki Imashi's work can be seen on the animated TV series called 'Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi.'"
Interesting that they reference Abenobashi and not Dead Leaves when Dead Leaves is clearly the influence for the scene, not Abenobashi. I think they chose to reference that show instead because Dead Leaves has a lot of adult content they wouldn't want to recommend on Nickelodeon. Interestingly, Abenobashi also has a good bit of adult content. I guess it's more palatable because the main characters are children.
Also, thanks for highlighting my comment earlier! I was the person who mentioned that the great divide has an imaishi inspired scene in the overanalyzing avatar video.
You're goated
"when are you actually gonna talk about the great divide?"
Kross: we get there when we get there.
THANK YOU for mentioning the worries behind the ATLA live action because i’ve been having the same ones!!
this dude really stopped talking about why you should watch the great divide one and a half minutes in lmao
The Great Divide was a necessary episode to foreshadow how all of Korra would feel
I’m so happy your back. This video was excellent. Thank you for finally making the video avatar production discussion has needed. The characters themes and story of avatar have been covered to death, this is the stuff I love learning about
Can confirm the over-saturation of Great Divide when it came to marketing and runtime on Nickelodeon. The quote “All in a day’s work for the Avatar,” is straight from the ONLY commercial I can remember Nickelodeon ever putting out for the show. I couldn’t remember until recently which episode that came from because I always skipped Great Divide upon rewatch lmao
i say this with love, this video should've just been about avatar and its animation influences rather than starting off by saying "here's why you shouldn't skip this episode!" and doing little to actually prove why you shouldn't, aside from pointing out certain animation references in that specific episode. either way, please know that this video was entertaining regardless! it was cool learning the anime influences that are scattered within the show, and you even briefly pointed out one of my favorite anime franchises in this video. keep it up!
i think any of the episodes that are labeled as filler are still super effective in establishing world building and the more time i rewatch the series i appreciate the great divide, and the fortune teller
The great divide was one of my favorite as a kid cause it played so often. Plus the art style shifting was really interesting to me
4:59 I always took Aang's intro pose to be a reference to Wanderer above the Sea of Fog by Caspar David Friedrich. Yes, I had to look it up, don't judge me.
Great video, only thing I’m confused about is what this has to with the great divide? You’ve throughly convinced me that avatar is inspired by anime, but why does that mean I shouldn’t skip the great divide? Connecting the two ideas more and having a conclusion that sums it all up would be helpful.
The connection is that the episode serves as a showcase of the creation team and director's influences and reference for the whole series.
The isolated plot of the episode takes a backseat and seems almost (still acts as a buffer for heavier episodes) negligible for this purpose.
It was quite clear for me 😅
never have its a compelling episode and its great to make peeps annoyed who dislike it watching it
it isnt "skip it" because of what it does right, but because of what it gets wrong. No one is denying there are good elements in it, but the bad outweighs the good, especially with the end of the episode undermining the general vibe of the show. Skip on rewatches is the actual sentiment, as you wont know how "bad" it is until youve "suffered" through it at least once.
All the anime influences are great, but is it really enough to prove the "dont skip it" point? All the points made are merits requiring research, and that isnt going to have any impact on most viewers. Sure, some might appreciate the anime references unique to the episode, but when it comes to recommendations, that is something that would come from someone personally related, in which case, they likely know if that fact would peak interests or not. On the internet, you dont get personalized recommendations, so they remain more general overall. For most people, the animation change might be interesting, but without background knowledge in anime, they wouldnt care what inspired it. There is also the case to be made that you still are not missing out on many of the references, since they show up in other forms elsewhere in the show.
There is value in the great divide, but that value is too limited to be part of general recommendations. Skip it on rewatches, experience it only that first time.
I enjoyed this episode more than the cave of lovers one. I really liked the designs of the tribespeople.
4:56 I always look at Zokka during that so I didn’t notice Kataras hilarious expression
I like the great divide love, but your argument is basically that other episodes are more interesting and have anime elements, so the great divide should also be good. No shade, it just isn't something that will get me to go back on the great divide
Oh wow this is insane, I didn't realize how many anime references there are in ATLA! I really should look into some of these, they look great
yeah, you should!
I appreciate the effort, but as someone who has rewatched the whole series multiple times (both skipping and not skipping The Great Divide)... You can ABSOLUTELY skip this episode.
avatar was a serial cartoon that got released in a age of epesodic cartoons, as such nick didnt know how to treat it and reran the episodes that were the most self contained such as the great devide, the fortune teller, bato of the water tribe, and jet
I watch "The Great Divide" not for its effect on the rest of the story, but because it's just really fun to watch.
I honestly skip it whenever I’m doing a marathon of the series. When your in between episodes like Jet and the Storm it’s hard to actually get into
I always hated “Jet” (not a fan of the extremist rebel is bad trope). So I skip that one
THE RISE OF KYOSHI MENTIONED!!!!
There's another 3 avatar novels btw (Shadow of Kyoshi, Dawn of Yangchen, Legacy of Yangchen) go read them.
I still gotta finish Shadow of Kyoshi but I will read Yangchen's books once I finish (probably in like 6 months lmao)
7:58 Korra almost has an exact copy scene of this evady style
I love the way you show the source quotes to back up your claims; tho i wish there were a good way to display them anywhere else but the bottom of the screen
Thats where my captions are and bcuz i need high contrast large text captions, they block stuff there quite often. Thankfully you put the quotes high enuf they are mostly unobscured when i pause to actually lean in and read the rly tiny text; its just the source part gets covered up a bit on the left
Love this vid overall tho, minor mention of accessibility stuff aside
Oh sorry about that. I'll defiently keep that in mind next time!
And thanks for pointing out the sources! I spend a lot of time trying to make sure I'm giving accurate information and being transparent about where I'm getting that information from.
Evangelion, trigun, and cowboy bebop mentioned in an avatar video essay? Yeah instant sub lol
The only great divide I’ll watch is jumping from episode ten to episode twelve
I know that anime/manga is often seen as a rival or "superior" to American super hero comics, but I'd love to see a video on all the ways these two mediums have influenced each other. From anime studios working on Batman The Animated Series, to Spider-Man inspiring Super Sentai which in turn inspired characters like Blue Beetle. There's an incredibly rich co-mingling of ideas that I'd love to see someone tackle not from a place of "mine is better than yours" but rather the same sort of sincere admiration of both that you've shown here.
That's sounds like a cool idea but I'm definetly not knowlegable enough about comics to be the person to make that video. Maybe you should give it a shot!
SO THAT'S WHY THE GREAT DIVIDE WOULD ALWAYS BE THE EPISODE ON AIR WHEN I CAUGHT AVATAR
I don't think the episode is that bad but I _despise it_ because it would _not stop showing up_
18:50 "inspired by japanese swordsmen" seems a bit vague of a statement cobsidering the character is very obviously based on Toshiro Mifune's character "Sanjuro" from the 1961 movie Yojimbo directed by Akira Kurosawa. I always thought the Momo's appearance in the hallucunation was a Yojimbo as his look and mannerisms are spot on for Mifune's character
based take, have been saying this for ages!
can't believe I've never seen anyone properly talk about the Imaishi influence in a video essay in all these years
thanks for making this video!
It's a funny concept that plays with the quest story format similar to how Pokemon has, rather than lotr. It's symptomatic of being early in the series, but I don't see that as a problem at all. Nothing wrong with a silly episode where aang wants a custard tart
Cool animation is no excuse for bad writing. This avatar. While I appreciate cool styles it's not worth the pointless storybeats and childlike divisions. This is one of the episodes that got away with it because it is a kids show. Everyone is insufferable, and though it may provide a few lore threads haphazardly thrown in to make is almost seem like we're watching the same show as before, you can very neatly take this out of the show as a whole and only miss maybe a minute of interesting animation. It's not the worst episode of Avatar, but it's definitely one of the few episodes I would prefer to skip.
I always liked the episode, the reason why so many people consider it the worst was due to the number of reruns it had compared to others
thats certainly one of the reasons its become ubiquitous as the worst episode, but it is also genuinely bad. like bottom 5 at best
You either love the Great Divide or you hate the Great Divide.
I love it when avatar has so many single episodes to be breath of fresh air like avatar day or nightmares and daydreams
but they were not cooking with the great divide, I never knew I would hate being treated as a child as much I did when watching that episode
Great video as usual with you Kross. Thank you for the great content!
While a side thought that you had here - I completely agree that the live action Avatar should have just been a new story within the Avatar universe. The world building is vast here and could have been anything but instead they choose to try recreating a story what is effectively about as perfect as you can get. So far from the trailer I've seen it doesn't look bad.. but it really can't be better than the original series. To top it off, all this money and effort was spent when we could have been seeing a fresh story. A shame (Inevitably I'll still watch it, but still).
On a tangent if you happen to read this - I would love to hear your thoughts on some Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss. (Beyond that first video you did)
I have been meaning to get around to talking about Helluva Boss and Hazbin
This was a great watch. I appreciate your perspective and knowledge on art styles and animated history. Thank you for making this. Don't take the new live action too seriously and you may enjoy it more. It's not meant to be a 1:1 recreation and I'm glad they realized that during pre-production.
OMG! When I saw Spike fighting Ed’s Dad and for the first time he couldn’t affect him in any way I immediately thought on how an agile waterbender like Katara or Eska and Desna would attack an giant Earthbender like the Boulder who is literally immovable
Avatar is a bridge between two worlds: the world of anime and the world of Western animation
Man, what a video. It was really fun and thoroughly enjoyable, I do love learning more about Avatar.
Jesus Christ … it’s all connected.
Thank you for this eye opening video!
It was thanks to the over airing of The Great Divide that I even found the series in the first place
ATLA was animated by artists in Korea. Brian talks about his time overseeing animation there.
Celebration of the Korean artists that did the work makes more sense than the omage to Japanese artists that white american creators enjoyed.
Props to the artists use of the 4 different styles representing the OG ATLA, Jon Wei flashback, Wei Jun flashback and Aang's chilidish lie and the teams that brought it together.
👏👏👏
Yes you should skip the great divide.
The great divide is the best episode of the first season.
spoiler warning for the episode in question
The two tribes are an intelligent metaphor for our society. They both justify irresponsible behaivior by saying that if they dont bring food, the others will do it anyway. That kind of behavior can be observed in almost any political conflict. Any single individual or country or company cant make a difference anyways so they dont even have to try.
Finding someone to blame for your problems is easy. Finding a soulution is hard.
Thats a powerfull message for a cartoon.
The way Aang convinces them to stop fighting and start working on a better future togethter by strait up lying to them is genius.
A conflict solved without violence. Thats something you dont come across as much as you should. Both on tv and in real live.
I think this episode gets more flak than it deserves.
If you are watching this with a child, especially do not skip this episode.
First, the two tribes are coded as Chinese wealthy people and Chinese poor people. This gives you an opportunity to talk to the child about why social stratification is bad in preparation for deeper conversations about that topic once the characters get to Ba Sing Se.
Second, you get an opportunity to talk to the child about how different cultures have different views of the same events in the past because over time, one of both of them can twist the facts to make themselves look better when they teach history to their children.
Lastly, the episode ends on a great moral question for kids: was Aang right to lie? As a consequentialist, I would say Aang was wrong. Lies of this kind have a nasty habit of being exposed later, and if this lie gets exposed, the feud will come back stronger than ever. But really, it would probably be best not to guide the conclusions of the child, and allow them to explore the topic on their own and come to their own conclusions.
Kross! Hope you've been well, it's been a awhile! 😊
I ask every person to listen to this tools voice and way of speaking, and apply it to any other subject other than avatar.
I didn't expect that to be so interesting, thank you that was cool
Just wanted to comment because my youtube profile picture has been this for more than a decade now
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Wow someone that likes to actually this ep too
well you cant people who want to skip ONE episode of a show with only 60 in it that have a ruintime of 20 minutes each
KROSS IS BACK YALL THE WORLD IS HEALING
you should watch it in first watch but in
rewatch i dont think its important
I'm watching ATLA with my friend who's never seen it, we skipped the Great Divide and nothing was lost. Iroh and Zhao already mention Ba Sing Se in season 1.
You convinced nothing. I can still skip the great divide and be 100% sure that I would not be missing out on the anime influences in the show.
"I'll always have the original"
Not if the media world gets it's way.....
well I got the complete DVD set so I'm chillin' lol
but yeah I dislike paying for conditional access to media too
As kid i loved this episode so much and i thought how aang handled it was hilarious
Not going to lie I LOVE the design of the Canyon Crawlers. They're just skrunkly big bug dudes who love to eat (I can relate).
7:53 this "dancing around enemies" also reminds me of that one guy in a forest "fighting" a platypus bear who thought he couldn't die cause aunt Wu told him. Sure it only happens one time but it does look similar
If you watched this but skip the episode which is the same length, lol
I got into Avatar somewhat late. I kept hearing about this anime-like cartoon on Nickelodeon, but I never checked it out because I was mostly out of TV in general, shifting a LOT of my focus to pirated subbed anime instead. But I think a friend I knew on AOL Instant Messenger informed me that the series was about to begin re-airing from episode 1, so that was as good a time as any to get into it (as I recall, this was sometime before Book 3 began airing). That said, I generally avoided the online discourse surrounding the show, so I was completely unaware that The Great Divide was so hated (I think I first became aware of that a couple years later, while reading around TVTropes). When I initially watched it....... yeah, it was pretty fillery, but the stylized flashbacks were pretty funny (that along with a couple other gems, like Sokka so blatantly saying that he just hung around for the food). I think this video put it nicely: it was just a fun little breather episode. Hardly anything I'd consider to be an absolute trash-tier abomination that's worth skipping over (and really, I'd say "filler episodes" only truly get to be unbearable when you've got F all happening for several, and I mean SEVERAL, episodes in a row, like with Pokemon or anime-original episodes of Detective Conan...... Avatar generally paced its plot out quite well, so having one episode like this once in a while could hardly be an issue).
If you read (AND EVERYONE SHOULD READ) the Avatar Kyoshi novels, you'll know Jianzhu is of the Gan Jin tribe. So. Just another reason to watch the ep.
Oh... Yeah nah... *Skips The Great Divide anyway*
LMAO my exact reaction
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I don't think you should skip it on your first time, but when rewatching I always skip it.
I liked this episode when I was a child, and was quite surprised when I learned that so much people despised it
22 minutes to say that the episode helps the pacing of the series and that the whole show is inspired by anime. I'm still not convinced I shouldn't skip it
It's 20 minutes. You can do it.
@diy_cat9817 I watched the whole video, that's how I know she doesn't talk much about the episode and instead most of the video is about anime
The major problem with the great divide is the ending. If they just redid the ending and made Aang feel guilty instead of relieved, it might’ve been at least an ok episode
Okey thats the greatest video about avatar inpirations EVER. Its THE avatar inspirations video
Thanks! I didn't want to claim that this is the one stop shop for tracing the visual lineage of atla but I was certainly aiming for that!
I never realized aang dressed as vash, triguns one of my favorites.
the video topic I've been waiting for
Too bad the title isn't actually what topic the video covers.
Why is anyone skipping episodes at all!? They're only 20 minutes long, and there aren't many per season to begin with! Like, I binged the whole first season in a single weekend. Feeling decadent for doing so, I decided to make myself wait twenty days before watching more and limit myself to one episode per day afterwards. Which I did. And it still only took about two months to finish the series and felt like it was over too soon.
All these years and I never noticed Aang is holding his staff behind his back. 5:06
The problem with The Great Divide is that it doesn't contribute anything to the plot nor character development, nobody learns anything, if anything it actually hurts everyone's character, Sokka and Katara act completely out of character out of nowhere throughout the episode and then it gets dropped by the end of the episode, and Aang doesn't actually resolve a conflict, he just straight up lies to resolve the conflict suggesting sometimes the quickest resolution to a problem is to simply lie and ignore the consequences. All these facts combined is why you should skip The Great Divide. It serves no purpose, its pacing is absolute trash, it contributes nothing to the show, and its a filler episode that harms every single character, it doesn't matter what inspirations it has in it, or that it is a lighthearted episode in preparation for heavier ones after already heavy ones, if you're watching the show, that pacing has never been a problem, I don't get why you think any of this matters to a viewer of the show. Just because you have an episode full of inspiration is irrelevant to the audience, that's not why we watch something and it should not be an excuse for a crap story, (imagine if Avatar had all these inspirations and its narrative was also a bad show, it wouldn't matter what inspirations it have, there's be no reason to watch it then, that's a double standard) I would even say The Great Divide also goes too far being incredibly bland by wearing its inspiration on its sleeve instead of being subtle and creative about making references because it only further detracts from the immersion of the show. I'm not watching Avatar because I care about its inspirations, that's a cool detail in a fact book, but as an audience, I care about engaging and enjoying the show, you could just as well have no inspiration and so long as I can enjoy and be well engaged with the story I would not care. Why do people keep injecting the idea that "we need to care about the inspiration" as if that crap matters to the audience? I can smell the animation major through the screen.
THANK YOU! Someone said it! People don't hate filler content, rather they want filler to CONTRIBUTE!
Start to finish I come back to the show often, and now I’ll watch the Great Divide.
omg everything i love is all connected 😭
Honestly, it's not really a bad episode, it was just so heavily over-saturated I got sick of it and is the first one to my mind to skip when I thought of rewatching. In my case, I think I'll still skip it.
Very good points to appreciate it though!
Ur back and it’s awesome
When you described how eastern and western animation has started blending ideas and influences together, I couldn’t help but think of Rise of the TMNT, whose fight choreography and cinematography was based off of Studio Trigger. I’d love to show you the show, or at least some out of context clips of the fights just to show you and gush on how the entire budget went into them lol.
Bet we should do that
yall this was one of my favourite episodes...
Well, it surely has the fanbase greatly divided.
I'd watch a Jet is Spike Spiegel video essay
I literally just rewatched it yesterday and it's mad funny😂