Andre Fadista ... I have always had a few Paiste cymbals within my Zildjian or Sabian cymbals that I have played my entire career, but in 2015 I finally had a full set of Paiste cymbals. I must say they are quite different than regular B20 cymbals and record nicer than my B20 cymbals. That’s why they are my most used cymbals today. Thanks for watching
Great video. I just picked up my first Giant Beat (vintage, 1973) a few months back, a 20" multi, and I can really say "I get it". Gorgeous tone, both as a ride and a crash.
Daniel, thanks for watching and the feedback! I haven’t been able to find a vintage Giant Beat to play or purchase, but the consistency of Paiste cymbals tells me they are wonderful cymbals and father of all these great B8 cymbals for the last 50 years. Thanks for watching
@@earldrum Appreciate the reply! I'm currently in Europe so that might make them easier to find - got a great deal on it too! This one comes in at 1880g. Btw, I've not played big beats but I've been interested in them over the years, and was always confused at them being described as sitting beetween GBs and 2002s.. I guess weight wise?
@@daniel.lopresti ... yes, the Big Beats are thinner cymbals ... crash rides. I just bought a 22” 2002 Ride it’s 3179g the 22” Big Beat in the video is like around 2360g ... quite a difference! I really like both ride cymbals! My 24” GB is like approximately 2930g. But that B8 alloy really makes beautiful cymbals that are so perfect for recording. I need to do another video on my growing 2002 collection.
Great info, appreciate your facts. And your right. I knew there was a little silver in them, but didn't know about the spare change thing? Pretty cool. I just recently made the switch to Paiste, and your right, I think they are 1 step above Zildjian and Sabian in pure sound. The warrm, crisp, clean sound on some Paiste cymbals just are unmatched. I usually get bored with a lot of talk, but not this time? Thanks.
Thanks for this video, man! 🙂 I'm a huge Paiste nerd, right now... _(Just bought a proper decent beater acoustic set, after learning on, and playing electronic drums for 5+ years.)_ Very insightful & informative. *Cheers!* 🍻
I spent almost 50 years playing many Zildjian K, Sabian HH and Paiste Signature ride cymbals but all these years I've been never really satisfied with their sound. A few months ago, I finally bought the ride cymbal that I love - the Paiste 2002 Big Beat 21" !
I’m glad you found your cymbal … I have a few favorite ride cymbals, but my 22” Paiste 2002 Big Beat is in the top three ride cymbals so I totally understand your comment! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻👍🏻😊🥁
@@earldrum Here in Rio de Janeiro, excellent cymbals are very difficult to find. Recently, Paiste created a representative in São Paulo but it seems that they will close the business soon. I bought this 21" Big Beat from them and they still have some cymbals available, for instance, a 26" Giant Beat and a 16" Big Beat HiHats. Do you think they are worthwhile ? Best regards !
Nice video. Right now the only Paistes I have are 2002s, 15" SE hats, 22" ride and an 18" & 19" Thin crash. I used to have many bright Paistes but my taste change and like you, I now like thinner, darker cymbals. The 2002 thin crashes are nice. I have mostly Dreams cymbals with a few Zildjian and Sabians thown in.
Hey Earl... great summary indeed more like a potted history...the point I want to make is that many drummers stick to one brand and maybe have a different effects cymbal or 2...of course the style of music dictates your choices but I have these cymbals in my set up; 14" Zyldjian K mastersounds Paste 2002 16" crash Zyldjian 17" A custom crash Istanbul agop 19" crash Paiste 2002 19" Big beat Zyldjian 16" k dark crash Sabian AAX 16" crash and a 10" splash... I use the big beat as my ride as well as the agop and these cymbals I have hand picked for my particular sound... whilst also being versatile for many applications...so I can play a Ska gig and it's the bomb...I just wanted to say I found being open to all brands and mixing it up... opens more doors. Great work you are doing 👏🏼
Shane … sorry I missed this one! I agree different cymbals have different purposes. I live all types of cymbals and I have plenty of Sabian, Zildjian and Istanbul cymbals to use when that’s the right sound for the gig! But I’m very fond of my Paiste cymbals for recording! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great video. I am a big Paiste fan. Everything from vintage (or new) 602's and Modern Essentials to anything with 2002 alloy. You have great taste and I will back you up with all of your assessments. It's a bummer about the Trads bending because they add even more diversity to the Paiste line up. The crashes and the light rides are just beautiful. I'd love to hear your opinion on the Masters line. I have had several and the only ones that stuck around for me was the dark crashes. I sold all of my Big Beats in favor of the Giant Beats (I can't keep them all), but this video inspired me to buy a 19" to pair with my GB 18". Thanks!
Nick thanks for comments! You are a Paiste player for sure! The 602 line especially the modern essentials sound awesome. I really like the Paiste traditional, because I like that dark sound. My only experience playing the Masters line was a 22” Dark Ride was really nice, I almost bought it, but I bought the 22” Big Beat instead. The 22” Giant Beat came out the next week. I love the Giant Beat cymbal line. They are the perfect blend of B8 and that dark vibe. Now I heard some of the new Masters dark thin, extra thin, and dry on the Drum Center of Portsmouth site has the dark thins that sound nice. I think the drys sound like all the good bad sounding cymbals that Zildjian and Meinl make!
Just picked up a 15” pair of hats, 18” thin and a 24” multi, all Giant Beats. I’ll be looking into getting a 20”, either a multi or just a thin crash. I wish they would make a medium thin 18” just to have that extra little beef to it, but I feel I’ll get that out of the 20”. I was always a Zildjian guy but I was yearning for something new. I’ve always had drier rides ands crashes, old A hats, occasionally a china, but I played the Giant Beats and I was blown away. The Zildjian S series has some serious Paiste mojo to them, however. Something to check out for sure.
I've owned Zildjian & Sabian. But I'm 60 now and I'm EXCLUSIVE pAisTe. Consistency, Durability, INNOVATIVE, and their Gongs are World Class. I have Full Sets of 2oo2, Dimensions, souNd forMuLa, (Both Logos) 5o5, pstX, Dark Energy, Big Beats, and as of last week, a Full set of Formula 602. with Signature, Masters, Traditionals. (Yes, the 16 Traditional China bends TOO easy) mixed in there too. pAisTe are just Insanely Musical & Versatile.
The regular 2002 or Rudes might be the way to go for you! I love the 2002 18” crash … it’s powerful! I don’t think I had that for this video! Thanks for watching!
Years of jazz drumming, using Turks for years. Always a 'flat rider', (that Paul Wertico thing), best flats I owned, were both Paiste (Sig Trad/2002). Have been sold on Paiste now about 6 years. I am thinking Big beat 20" in a jazz concept. May have to pick one up. Agree totally, Earl, NOBODY does B8 better than Paiste. Like the flat ride, they invented it, and all superb.
Hi Earl, I've tried researching this and haven't found an answer: Is there a difference when one is labeled Big Beat and Black Big Beat? I see people talking about the Black Big Beats, but some resellers only seem to list Big Beats. I"m considering a 2002 Big Beat set with 15/18/20/24. The ride is something I've heard several times and it just is a bit different from my Sabian HH. I've also wanted to try a larger hi hat, so why not try a set, possibly.
Not to be confused with the older "black label" 2002s. They're simply the same 2002 series as exists today, but the logos were black (and many people swear they were thinner, but that's a different story).
Thanks for your vidéo! I'm looking for 2 new crashes to complet my set (sabian hh dark chinese / Istanbul alchemy chinese / paiste signature 8 splash / zildjian K custom ride) I'm still hesitate between 2002 big black beat and giant beat crashes. . (My favorite drummers are ian paice and john bonham :) ) can I have your opinion? Thx!
marshall hammond ... thanks for watching! I really like the Giant Beat as a crash ... the 20” multi is excellent ... even 24” multi. I love the 22” Big Beat as a ride and to crash it periodically. But I would use it as just a crash! Now I haven’t tried the 18” - 21” Big Beats .... they sound cool. I love the 16” 2002 Thin Crash ... I bet I’d dig the 18” thin too! My thing is try to keep like metals together. So B8 Paiste cymbal stay mostly with Paiste ...same with the B20 Sabian or Zildjians ... they go together ... Or Istanbul cymbals too ... but it’s up to your ears so listen before buying. I have some more videos about Zildjian, Sabian and my Paiste journey ... also Check out a video or two to hear my cymbals in context with music. Thanks for watching!
Earl Bennett - earldrum ..thanks for had took time to make an answer. I'm looking over and over all the videos i can to help my choice, and also listening the samples on the paiste website. I've read that the giant beat are a little bit fragile , is that true? (I'm not a hard hitter ) thanks for your help!
Rick Delair ... the 2002 Crash cymbals are beautiful and I like the the thin models, but the regular “crash” cymbals are amazing too! Thanks for watching
I just thought of a topic for a video “How not to lose your soul in the music business, or how to have morals in the music business “ just a thought. Or how not to get taken advantage of in the music business as a young artist.
hi, thanks for taking the time to make this. Im long time drummer and never had paiste except my first cymbal was a 14 Crash 505. any way i want to go 24 paise set up. what would you recommend. i like dark also but i want thin multi cymbal.
Yes, it's a 1984 18" Paiste 2002 china type. That's how it is labeled. I traded a 17" A Zildjian crash for it ... I think I got the better end of the deal! It weighs 1312 g, Nice china, I always wanted a Paiste china!
I think one must be an accomplished drummer to discern stuff like this. Songwriters, producers and record company executives who have never had as much as a beginner drum lesson, much less covering gear or components, can't even speak the language. I just know a big, resonant tom sound when I hear one, and horrible snare synths that sound like someone is off in another room hitting a cardboard box with a spatula. When I hear the end of The One I Love by R.E.M., that's when I know what I like. Perhaps you can tell from listening what kind of toms he has that resonate so well, and I'll be able to know what works for me in the studio. I guess then you have to hope that the drummer you're using has access to that make/model kit. You can tell I'm ignorant. Hitting symbols happens so fast, I can't even see if it's being struck with the tip or side of the stick, or when you'd use one technique over the other. Beat the clock?
Joe, great drums tuned well are the key. It’s knowing what sound you want for the song you are cutting. I have about 10 snare drums and three different drum kits that I use regularly. My vintage Gretsch kit is the sound of thousands of records. But you can get a great sound with just about any semi pro kit these days with good heads and tuning. It also helps to have ears to hear what you want. Thanks for watching... I had to listen to it to remember what I said! It’s was a long time ago!
@@earldrum All I would know to do is find a record with what I like, and tell the drummer, "I want this," and if I'm lucky, they might already have a record of their own that has what I like, and I can just point to what they've already done. But that's a long ways from now. All it takes is money, like double or triple scale if I'm in Nashville. I saw a video on the making of Peg by Steely Dan and they would call in guitarists and drummers and let them ad lib what they wanted, then pick their fav. It's expensive, but they had the budget.
This thing about Zildjian putting silver in their cymbals in the 50s/60s is just a tall story. Come on. How would they be able to afford to do that on a mass produced product? B20 is simply 80% copper and 20% tin
Awesome video man! I am a Paiste Giant Beat man myself and absolutely love them! To me the issue becomes, "Now do I use the 18" multi or 20" multi on this song??" Not a bad dilemma to have at all! Keep rockin' and makin' these awesome videos my man!!
I love the 2002 line ... I have a few the 2002 Big Beats are amazing cymbals. I started with some 505s which are poor mans 2002s. Great cymbals. I love cymbals ... whatever works for you is very cool!
Yeah I've heard some great Big Beats but for every one of those I heard I heard 10 lifeless dogs. 2002 and Sigs are consistent . 505 hardly ever shows up with a great one.
I'm happy you introduced me to paiste cymbals they work in every style.
Thanks for the feedback Shawn!
very nice, thank you sir for sharing your knowledge of cymbals very well done!
Thanks for watching and your kind feedback! 🙏🏻😎👍🏻
Amazing explanation. I play Zildjian all my life but I need a change in my sound and I'm thinking seriously changing to Paiste cymbals.
Andre Fadista ... I have always had a few Paiste cymbals within my Zildjian or Sabian cymbals that I have played my entire career, but in 2015 I finally had a full set of Paiste cymbals. I must say they are quite different than regular B20 cymbals and record nicer than my B20 cymbals. That’s why they are my most used cymbals today. Thanks for watching
Do it! Never had any compliments on my cymbals playing live until I was using Paiste.
6 months later from this comment. I'm a Paiste endorser artist since December. Got a 2002's set from them 😊
That’s great ... pass my name to them! I’d endorse them too! Oh I do for free! 😂 congratulations my friend! Thanks for letting know!
Great video. I just picked up my first Giant Beat (vintage, 1973) a few months back, a 20" multi, and I can really say "I get it". Gorgeous tone, both as a ride and a crash.
Daniel, thanks for watching and the feedback! I haven’t been able to find a vintage Giant Beat to play or purchase, but the consistency of Paiste cymbals tells me they are wonderful cymbals and father of all these great B8 cymbals for the last 50 years. Thanks for watching
@@earldrum Appreciate the reply! I'm currently in Europe so that might make them easier to find - got a great deal on it too! This one comes in at 1880g. Btw, I've not played big beats but I've been interested in them over the years, and was always confused at them being described as sitting beetween GBs and 2002s.. I guess weight wise?
@@daniel.lopresti ... yes, the Big Beats are thinner cymbals ... crash rides. I just bought a 22” 2002 Ride it’s 3179g the 22” Big Beat in the video is like around 2360g ... quite a difference! I really like both ride cymbals! My 24” GB is like approximately 2930g. But that B8 alloy really makes beautiful cymbals that are so perfect for recording. I need to do another video on my growing 2002 collection.
This is my first time seeing your content. This is top tier content.
Thanks for the feedback and kind words!
Great info, appreciate your facts. And your right. I knew there was a little silver in them, but didn't know about the spare change thing? Pretty cool. I just recently made the switch to Paiste, and your right, I think they are 1 step above Zildjian and Sabian in pure sound. The warrm, crisp, clean sound on some Paiste cymbals just are unmatched. I usually get bored with a lot of talk, but not this time? Thanks.
Finally, someone who knows how to hit a cymbal! Thank you.
Thanks for this video, man! 🙂 I'm a huge Paiste nerd, right now... _(Just bought a proper decent beater acoustic set, after learning on, and playing electronic drums for 5+ years.)_
Very insightful & informative. *Cheers!* 🍻
Thanks for watching David! I appreciate your encouragement!
I spent almost 50 years playing many Zildjian K, Sabian HH and Paiste Signature ride cymbals but all these years I've been never really satisfied with their sound.
A few months ago, I finally bought the ride cymbal that I love - the Paiste 2002 Big Beat 21" !
I’m glad you found your cymbal … I have a few favorite ride cymbals, but my 22” Paiste 2002 Big Beat is in the top three ride cymbals so I totally understand your comment! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻👍🏻😊🥁
@@earldrum Here in Rio de Janeiro, excellent cymbals are very difficult to find. Recently, Paiste created a representative in São Paulo but it seems that they will close the business soon.
I bought this 21" Big Beat from them and they still have some cymbals available, for instance, a 26" Giant Beat and a 16" Big Beat HiHats.
Do you think they are worthwhile ?
Best regards !
Nice video. Right now the only Paistes I have are 2002s, 15" SE hats, 22" ride and an 18" & 19" Thin crash. I used to have many bright Paistes but my taste change and like you, I now like thinner, darker cymbals. The 2002 thin crashes are nice. I have mostly Dreams cymbals with a few Zildjian and Sabians thown in.
Thanks for watching. The 2002 big beats are thin and darker 2002 cymbals. You might want to check them out! 🙏👍😁
Great video! I hope you are doing well Earl!
Thanks for the feedback and doing in Brent! All is well and very busy, but in a good way! Thanks for watching!
Hey Earl... great summary indeed more like a potted history...the point I want to make is that many drummers stick to one brand and maybe have a different effects cymbal or 2...of course the style of music dictates your choices but I have these cymbals in my set up;
14" Zyldjian K mastersounds
Paste 2002 16" crash
Zyldjian 17" A custom crash
Istanbul agop 19" crash
Paiste 2002 19" Big beat
Zyldjian 16" k dark crash
Sabian AAX 16" crash
and a 10" splash...
I use the big beat as my ride as well as the agop and these cymbals I have hand picked for my particular sound... whilst also being versatile for many applications...so I can play a Ska gig and it's the bomb...I just wanted to say I found being open to all brands and mixing it up... opens more doors.
Great work you are doing 👏🏼
Shane … sorry I missed this one! I agree different cymbals have different purposes. I live all types of cymbals and I have plenty of Sabian, Zildjian and Istanbul cymbals to use when that’s the right sound for the gig! But I’m very fond of my Paiste cymbals for recording! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great video. I am a big Paiste fan. Everything from vintage (or new) 602's and Modern Essentials to anything with 2002 alloy.
You have great taste and I will back you up with all of your assessments. It's a bummer about the Trads bending because they add even more diversity to the Paiste line up. The crashes and the light rides are just beautiful.
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Masters line. I have had several and the only ones that stuck around for me was the dark crashes. I sold all of my Big Beats in favor of the Giant Beats (I can't keep them all), but this video inspired me to buy a 19" to pair with my GB 18". Thanks!
Nick thanks for comments! You are a Paiste player for sure! The 602 line especially the modern essentials sound awesome. I really like the Paiste traditional, because I like that dark sound. My only experience playing the Masters line was a 22” Dark Ride was really nice, I almost bought it, but I bought the 22” Big Beat instead. The 22” Giant Beat came out the next week. I love the Giant Beat cymbal line. They are the perfect blend of B8 and that dark vibe. Now I heard some of the new Masters dark thin, extra thin, and dry on the Drum Center of Portsmouth site has the dark thins that sound nice. I think the drys sound like all the good bad sounding cymbals that Zildjian and Meinl make!
I heard that the Stambul 65 was the first b8 Paiste cymbal. Not sure where I heard that.
I heard that after I did this video!🤣🤣🤣 Drum History Podcast? Terry Keating? 🤘🏻🙏🏻👍🏻 thanks for watching Jack!
great analysis, thx!👍👍
Just picked up a 15” pair of hats, 18” thin and a 24” multi, all Giant Beats. I’ll be looking into getting a 20”, either a multi or just a thin crash. I wish they would make a medium thin 18” just to have that extra little beef to it, but I feel I’ll get that out of the 20”. I was always a Zildjian guy but I was yearning for something new. I’ve always had drier rides ands crashes, old A hats, occasionally a china, but I played the Giant Beats and I was blown away. The Zildjian S series has some serious Paiste mojo to them, however. Something to check out for sure.
The 20 multi is the finest cymbal Iv ever laid my hands on
This is a great video Earl!
Thanks for watching Bryan ... again? 😀👍🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
I've owned Zildjian & Sabian. But I'm 60 now and I'm EXCLUSIVE pAisTe.
Consistency, Durability, INNOVATIVE, and their Gongs are World Class.
I have Full Sets of 2oo2, Dimensions, souNd forMuLa, (Both Logos) 5o5, pstX, Dark Energy, Big Beats, and as of last week, a Full set of Formula 602.
with Signature, Masters, Traditionals.
(Yes, the 16 Traditional China bends TOO easy) mixed in there too.
pAisTe are just Insanely Musical & Versatile.
That’s an awesome collection of cymbals! Thanks for watching 👍🏻😎🙏🏻🎄 I love my Paiste cymbals too!
Speaking of breaking thin cymbals, I like the Avedis Medium thin but I've cracked 2 of them and I don't really beat my cymbals
I'm a pretty hard hitter. I'm torn between a set of 2002s, big beats, giant beats, and rudes. Sorry I know this is an old video.
The regular 2002 or Rudes might be the way to go for you! I love the 2002 18” crash … it’s powerful! I don’t think I had that for this video! Thanks for watching!
Years of jazz drumming, using Turks for years. Always a 'flat rider', (that Paul Wertico thing), best flats I owned, were both Paiste (Sig Trad/2002). Have been sold on Paiste now about 6 years. I am thinking Big beat 20" in a jazz concept.
May have to pick one up.
Agree totally, Earl, NOBODY does B8 better than Paiste. Like the flat ride, they invented it, and all superb.
Thanks for the feedback PapaG! I’m still loving my Paiste cymbals! 😎🤘🏻🙏🏻
Awesome video E!!! So true in what you are saying....!!!! And Paiste Know B8 for sure 👍 priceless
Nathan Van Slyke ... thanks! I’m really digging Paiste!
Hi Earl, I've tried researching this and haven't found an answer: Is there a difference when one is labeled Big Beat and Black Big Beat? I see people talking about the Black Big Beats, but some resellers only seem to list Big Beats. I"m considering a 2002 Big Beat set with 15/18/20/24. The ride is something I've heard several times and it just is a bit different from my Sabian HH. I've also wanted to try a larger hi hat, so why not try a set, possibly.
Alex Breyer ...not to my knowledge. I call them 2002 Big Beat. But they are different then Giant Beats. I love my 22” Big Beat
No difference. They call them "Black" Big Beats because the Paiste logo is in black ink instead of the traditional red ink used on the regular 2002's.
Not to be confused with the older "black label" 2002s. They're simply the same 2002 series as exists today, but the logos were black (and many people swear they were thinner, but that's a different story).
...🇧🇷 Congratulations Earl Bennett!🎧🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟💙🌹🎵🎶🍀🎇
Thanks for your vidéo! I'm looking for 2 new crashes to complet my set (sabian hh dark chinese / Istanbul alchemy chinese / paiste signature 8 splash / zildjian K custom ride) I'm still hesitate between 2002 big black beat and giant beat crashes. . (My favorite drummers are ian paice and john bonham :) ) can I have your opinion? Thx!
marshall hammond ... thanks for watching! I really like the Giant Beat as a crash ... the 20” multi is excellent ... even 24” multi. I love the 22” Big Beat as a ride and to crash it periodically. But I would use it as just a crash! Now I haven’t tried the 18” - 21” Big Beats .... they sound cool. I love the 16” 2002 Thin Crash ... I bet I’d dig the 18” thin too! My thing is try to keep like metals together. So B8 Paiste cymbal stay mostly with Paiste ...same with the B20 Sabian or Zildjians ... they go together ... Or Istanbul cymbals too ... but it’s up to your ears so listen before buying. I have some more videos about Zildjian, Sabian and my Paiste journey ... also Check out a video or two to hear my cymbals in context with music. Thanks for watching!
Earl Bennett - earldrum ..thanks for had took time to make an answer. I'm looking over and over all the videos i can to help my choice, and also listening the samples on the paiste website. I've read that the giant beat are a little bit fragile , is that true? (I'm not a hard hitter ) thanks for your help!
Rick Delair ... the 2002 Crash cymbals are beautiful and I like the the thin models, but the regular “crash” cymbals are amazing too! Thanks for watching
I just thought of a topic for a video “How not to lose your soul in the music business, or how to have morals in the music business “ just a thought. Or how not to get taken advantage of in the music business as a young artist.
Thanks for the feedback and thoughts. I will try to give my limited perspective on the next Ask Earl Anything thing show!
hi,
thanks for taking the time to make this. Im long time drummer and never had paiste except my first cymbal was a 14 Crash 505.
any way i want to go 24 paise set up.
what would you recommend. i like dark also but i want thin multi cymbal.
Sorry I missed the question ... 24” Big Beat is darker, but the 24” Giant Beat sounds great as well! 👍🏻
Finally got Giant Beats (15” HH, 18 & 20”), but wanna get a 22” Big Beat for my ride. Call me crazy?…
I have that exact cymbal setup!
Is that just a regular 2002 18" china? Again I have to thank you for helping to influence me to go over to Paiste.
Yes, it's a 1984 18" Paiste 2002 china type. That's how it is labeled. I traded a 17" A Zildjian crash for it ... I think I got the better end of the deal! It weighs 1312 g, Nice china, I always wanted a Paiste china!
Also, happy to help you transition to Paiste ... but I will say "they" (i.e., Zildjian, sabian, meinl, Istanbul) all make great cymbals!
Rick Delair ... a nova China would be wonderful to get someday! Cheers!
I think one must be an accomplished drummer to discern stuff like this. Songwriters, producers and record company executives who have never had as much as a beginner drum lesson, much less covering gear or components, can't even speak the language. I just know a big, resonant tom sound when I hear one, and horrible snare synths that sound like someone is off in another room hitting a cardboard box with a spatula. When I hear the end of The One I Love by R.E.M., that's when I know what I like. Perhaps you can tell from listening what kind of toms he has that resonate so well, and I'll be able to know what works for me in the studio. I guess then you have to hope that the drummer you're using has access to that make/model kit. You can tell I'm ignorant. Hitting symbols happens so fast, I can't even see if it's being struck with the tip or side of the stick, or when you'd use one technique over the other. Beat the clock?
Joe, great drums tuned well are the key. It’s knowing what sound you want for the song you are cutting. I have about 10 snare drums and three different drum kits that I use regularly. My vintage Gretsch kit is the sound of thousands of records. But you can get a great sound with just about any semi pro kit these days with good heads and tuning. It also helps to have ears to hear what you want. Thanks for watching... I had to listen to it to remember what I said! It’s was a long time ago!
@@earldrum All I would know to do is find a record with what I like, and tell the drummer, "I want this," and if I'm lucky, they might already have a record of their own that has what I like, and I can just point to what they've already done. But that's a long ways from now. All it takes is money, like double or triple scale if I'm in Nashville.
I saw a video on the making of Peg by Steely Dan and they would call in guitarists and drummers and let them ad lib what they wanted, then pick their fav. It's expensive, but they had the budget.
This thing about Zildjian putting silver in their cymbals in the 50s/60s is just a tall story. Come on. How would they be able to afford to do that on a mass produced product? B20 is simply 80% copper and 20% tin
Thanks for watching my friend! Well it’s a story I heard first hand at the Zildjian factory tour in 1999. So my source is solid. Have a great day!
Hey Earl, the Rich Sullivan you mention wasn't from Montreal was he?
Rob Burgess ... hi Rob, no my friend Rich was from NJ. Thanks for asking and for watching!
Awesome video man! I am a Paiste Giant Beat man myself and absolutely love them! To me the issue becomes, "Now do I use the 18" multi or 20" multi on this song??" Not a bad dilemma to have at all! Keep rockin' and makin' these awesome videos my man!!
Giant beats rock! I am so happy I found them ... I like them better than the 2002s, but the 16" 2002 Thin Crash is growing on me.
❤🥁❤️
🙏🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🥁thanks James!
Giant Beat= most over rated Paiste cymbal because they can't compete with a 2002 or even a good 2000 which smokes them in every way.
I love the 2002 line ... I have a few the 2002 Big Beats are amazing cymbals. I started with some 505s which are poor mans 2002s. Great cymbals. I love cymbals ... whatever works for you is very cool!
Yeah I've heard some great Big Beats but for every one of those I heard I heard 10 lifeless dogs. 2002 and Sigs are consistent . 505 hardly ever shows up with a great one.
jeff jones ... well I understand you like 2002s!
Yes I do but I like Signatures even more. Especially the Sig Power crash.