This is the thing Jiu-Jitsu player don't do but absolutely should

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  • @tuttlespeachtree3413
    @tuttlespeachtree3413 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    As a wrestler since childhood who only discovered BJJ later in life, this video articulates so well the differences between the two sports...and believe me I was humbled by BJJ plenty of times, but you cannot reproduce the core physical strength of wrestling anywhere else!!!

    • @bobbydabutcha
      @bobbydabutcha ปีที่แล้ว +22

      We have a hybrid gym as well with a TON of Wrestlers/MMA guys and it's always an eye opening experience when I train with them. My BJJ is decent (for a Blue belt lol), but when I roll with a legit Wrestler holy smokes what an eye opening experience they always are. They have so much more explosiveness and a different type of control you don't get with Gi BJJ or even No Gi. I learn a lot from training with them and also improves my own game, especially in the sense of urgency during the rounds.

    • @davestuddaman8127
      @davestuddaman8127 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The snap of a wrestler. The quick natural movements.

    • @davestuddaman8127
      @davestuddaman8127 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The thing that I always struggled with in BJJ as an ex wrestler is being comfortable on your back

    • @bobbydabutcha
      @bobbydabutcha ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davestuddaman8127 Once you learn and develop your guard, you’re gonna be trouble for a lot of people. From experience, when a wrestler learns Jiu Jitsu they become a pretty unstoppable. We have guys that have wrestled for 13-15 years just starting Jiu Jitsu and they give brown belts a hard time lol

    • @davestuddaman8127
      @davestuddaman8127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bobbydabutcha it's crazy cuz I'm an amazing lover from my back🤷

  • @Arthurdankarelli
    @Arthurdankarelli ปีที่แล้ว +557

    I train bjj 3-4 days a week and I go to the gym three days a week. and I’m a full-time truck driver with a family. No excuses boys.
    EDIT: I understand Firas has a lot of subscribers that don’t train and are just MMA fans. And that’s fine. Please don’t get offended by my comment fellas. Training is not for everybody. When I say no excuses, I’m trying to motivate, not offend. Jeeeeez lol

    • @TheChrisrich20
      @TheChrisrich20 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      how long you been doing that schedule and how old are you?

    • @Arthurdankarelli
      @Arthurdankarelli ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@TheChrisrich20 i’ve been training jujitsu for 6 years but I’ve been doing both bjj and Weight training for about 4. I’m 42 years old.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r ปีที่แล้ว +18

      hell yea man, props

    • @mpforeverunlimited
      @mpforeverunlimited ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I always figured it was impossible to work out as a driver. You just do locak trips then? Or how would it work with overnight deliveries? Do you just do drop ins in random towns?

    • @deekay1310
      @deekay1310 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should we slow clap for you arthur. is that the praise youre searching for? How bout you train for yourself not to brag on youtube you absolute tool bag.

  • @jasonwingfield9413
    @jasonwingfield9413 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Many people believe that when you’re paying for a Jiu Jitsu membership, you should be receiving Jiu Jitsu instruction. There’s plenty of time in the day for the athlete or practitioner can incorporate their strict conditioning or strength protocols.

    • @Sakattack2023
      @Sakattack2023 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      sure....but they wont/dont.

    • @prandz420
      @prandz420 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@Sakattack2023 then that means they don’t want to be an elite athlete or fighter so it doesn’t matter. People can manage their own conditioning.
      They haven’t signed up for an amateur wrestling team they are paying to learn jiu jitsu

    • @Arcadianx98
      @Arcadianx98 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Truth. Conditioning should be on your own. I want to learn jiu jitsu and spar when I’m in class. I’ll run and lift on my own time

    • @Sakattack2023
      @Sakattack2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prandz420 lol yeah ok bud, I think you’d be surprised how far dudes go without it….

    • @prandz420
      @prandz420 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Sakattack2023 dont know what point you're trying to make

  • @robbie31580
    @robbie31580 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Just started your video and I agree 1000%. I’m 42 and dealing with these young talented athletic kids. I felt like my cardio was struggling over the past few months so I started to add in some wrestling style cardio and weight training. It has significantly helped out my conditioning.
    These aren’t crazy overly strenuous exercises either. Just an extra 15 minutes goes a long way. Very glad I started.

    • @DaMartialAthlete
      @DaMartialAthlete ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’m 40 and I feel u bruh 😂.. What type of shit u doing?

    • @aaraim
      @aaraim ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro, you got any vids which show the wrestling style cardio routines you use? Some you can recommend?

    • @titan_fbg4816
      @titan_fbg4816 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DaMartialAthlete just the good ol sprints and squats bro don't need to overcomplicate anything..

    • @robbie31580
      @robbie31580 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DaMartialAthlete hill sprints are great but I had to build up to them. I used to run but I’ve had 4 knee surgeries. 2 ACL and microfracture on my right knee. All of that was before starting BJJ. I had to get my calves and muscles below the knees built up.
      Kneesovertoesguy is a great starting point for exercises as well. Main thing from him is sled pulls and pushes but do them in a cardio intensive fashion aka minimal rest between sets.
      Let me find a few of the TH-cam links to other exercises and I’ll post them

    • @robbie31580
      @robbie31580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaMartialAthlete th-cam.com/video/-NBkQtmy_zI/w-d-xo.html he’s got some good videos and basically any video under “cardio for wrestling” is good.

  • @Mysterious2887
    @Mysterious2887 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    a lot of bjj gyms completely neglect wrestling and it's quite frustrating, most of the time they just do guard pulling, glad you covered this bro.

    • @Samson789
      @Samson789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good thing my school really emphasizes the importance of wrestling

  • @davidcastillo4487
    @davidcastillo4487 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think the baseline starts with training actual wrestling. It requires all those interactive semi live partner drills that use muscles for takedowns. Even for bjj it would never be enough to just learn the technique without some drills and then use it in sparring. But there just isn't enough time in one class for expansive takedown work and groundwork. Those are two separate subjects that connect well. But both require different muscles and skillsets. I can never get bored learning all that martial arts have to offer. It's unfortunate most people don't seem to care about being well rounded till they get destroyed and others that think you can separate martial arts from conditioning when its a physical practice.......

  • @samuelgardner5939
    @samuelgardner5939 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    He's 100% correct, especially about the importance of conditioning for competition. That said, part of the attraction of BJJ is that it is a lot of fun. You learn techniques that can maim or murder a person, you get to apply them at near full speed on people when you roll, and then you can hug after. When you feel the pressure to "condition" it robs some of the enjoyment for some folks. If you want to compete you need to condition, but if your goal is to learn BJJ, have some fun, and stay active then BJJ class is probably enough to keep you fit.

    • @tomevers6670
      @tomevers6670 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The problem comes when many sport Bjj guys think what they’re learning is more OP than it actually is in real world situations. Some are ridiculously delusional.

    • @af4396
      @af4396 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tomevers6670 That's their problem, and the coach's. And to be honest, many other martial arts have this problem MUCH worse. When he says all these other martial arts do conditioning... no they don't! Most barely even have sparring, and especially not resistive sparring. Just the fact that most BJJ dojos spar gives BJJ guys an upper hand over 99% of "martial arts dojos"

    • @ivanrogic4803
      @ivanrogic4803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conditioning helps your jiu-jitsu

    • @CaPnBaLlBaG
      @CaPnBaLlBaG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You still need conditioning for injury prevention purposes at the bare minimum. Otherwise you’re gonna ruin your body over your hobby. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

  • @Beastius24
    @Beastius24 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Yes! I have been doing strength training for decades and went to do some BJJ. I was shocked how out of shape most people were.

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you're training bjj consistently rolling you should be in shape, it's pretty intense but yeah weight training would help and cardio is always goof

    • @skarhead7597
      @skarhead7597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, they still tapped you all day and night though 🤣 Most people doing BJJ are just doing is as a fun sport or hobby...not even thinking about going out as getting into streetfights with highly conditioned super athletes

    • @Beastius24
      @Beastius24 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@skarhead7597 they did, of course. However my athleticism sort of "added 2 stripes " to my belt. What I mean by that is that I could overpower people who were on the same level or slightly ahead, no problem

    • @znjfl
      @znjfl ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@skarhead7597 Thats true, but it stops being fun when the guys that actually did their strength training and conditioning start getting better, and start smashing you every class. It also stops being fun when you constantly get injured because your body just isnt fit enough to handle the stress that Bjj does to you. Im speaking from experience because doing just a bit of strength and conditioning did wonders to minimize the amount and severity of injuries I get.

    • @strikingmachine2975
      @strikingmachine2975 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      on the flip side, many people overtrain, or train incorrectly. For example, trying to perform any of the Olympic Lifts without excellent form is a recipe for injury..

  • @AnnaKuznetzova88
    @AnnaKuznetzova88 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I always say this. Most ppl at jiujitsu gym I see don’t do weight training, conditioning, running etc. also rolling is not similar intensity to fight at all, judo and wrestling much more intense

    • @peteypablo09
      @peteypablo09 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree with the first part of what you said. But bjj can be just as tiring as those other things. It depends on how you train

    • @AnnaKuznetzova88
      @AnnaKuznetzova88 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@peteypablo09 tiring and intensity is different. Starting in guard is much much less intense than starting in judo and opponent is trying to slam u hard the whole time. Real fight especially street fight is very chaotic like this, rolling is much more controlled

    • @peteypablo09
      @peteypablo09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AnnaKuznetzova88 that is true. You don’t need to start in guard in jiu jitsu. I don’t know if you’ve seen ADCC this year, for example, but many of the matches were extremely intense. That being said, I see the point you are making. The culture in bjj is different than that in most hobbyist gyms

    • @InvisibleHotdog
      @InvisibleHotdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@peteypablo09 all of Gordon Ryan's tourney matches started with a sit down or guard pull, not even close to wrestling or Judo

    • @peteypablo09
      @peteypablo09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@InvisibleHotdog That is true. Doesn’t change what I said though. Look at all of Pato Oliviera’s matches, for instance. Or Kade. Or Mica. Did you happen to watch any of them?

  • @urbanEzio89
    @urbanEzio89 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Hello, I am a BJJ Blue Belt who is currently immersed in wrestling culture. I agree 100% that wrestling and bjj should be practiced together. My only regret is that I didn't start in high school.

    • @tomevers6670
      @tomevers6670 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll coach you in oil wrestling.

  • @marcoleone8189
    @marcoleone8189 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always the best! Thank you!

  • @TheOne-uo7is
    @TheOne-uo7is ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are few people that can be titled a ‘professor’ of mma, but Firaz is one. A pleasure to listen to.

  • @tfajsh
    @tfajsh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Condition, work on the feet, and put in time!! I hope this video goes viral! Great stuff!

  • @yusetsuarez1459
    @yusetsuarez1459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!! I couldn't agree more.

  • @imranchoate
    @imranchoate ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Assalamu Alaikum Coach. I was listening to the GSP, Gordon Ryan & John Danaher Interview with Lex. I learnt so much from that discussion about the evidence for why certain things work for success in MMA or fighting in general. I have to respect you coaches from the thoughfulness and explanations. The levels of knowledge is amazing! You provide solutions to any problems encountered.

  • @Warlordjoker2394
    @Warlordjoker2394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of stretching and circuit training ! Has helped me !

  • @super_aesthetic_athlete6847
    @super_aesthetic_athlete6847 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Facts 💯 I believe the conditionjng training I did for football and rugby built the be power I have in my kicks and punches. It's very necessary for any sport.

    • @doslouqes4167
      @doslouqes4167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You work hip flexor and abs alot and running is one of yhe best exersize

  • @BJJ_Richie
    @BJJ_Richie ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely agree ! I get on the weights, not only bodybuilding , but power lifting , deadlifting , jog a little bit , etc etc,

  • @behrad9712
    @behrad9712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!🙏

  • @roflswamp6
    @roflswamp6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    this is extremely insightful and making me realize my issue with getting injured all the time is due to conditioning now I want to condition before bjj

    • @DKRYMMA
      @DKRYMMA ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He literally specified to not to do it beforehand but afterward

    • @roflswamp6
      @roflswamp6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@DKRYMMA I meant before I go back to training bjj in general hut yeag

    • @ismailb4334
      @ismailb4334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do yoga once a week at home

    • @roflswamp6
      @roflswamp6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ismailb4334 I've done yoga for years and am extremely flexible I do vedic astrology hindu yoga is best in the world

    • @mikhailsharon4331
      @mikhailsharon4331 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correction, you want to condition after bjj. Even then, don't go 100% except in training camps. A consistent 70% is good.

  • @thomasermenault9170
    @thomasermenault9170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely relevant as always Monsieur Firas

  • @Mr-ep2qi
    @Mr-ep2qi ปีที่แล้ว

    Firas you speaking some facts at the end brother !

  • @joshualove6586
    @joshualove6586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content

  • @thedetective8150
    @thedetective8150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You speak absolute truth and wisdom. I am returning to BJJ after 20 years away from it. I left BJJ because my Brazilian instructor was against conditioning and weight training. He also said leg locks were dirty moves and only do Gi BJJ. We now have a complete system with NoGi training, wrestling techniques, conditioning, weight training and leg locks.

  • @marcuswarren4390
    @marcuswarren4390 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great analyst of all combat sports...

  • @gustavofring1927
    @gustavofring1927 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Leandro Lo himself (RIP) told that he regretted starting conditioning that late.

  • @youjitsuhoneybadgers8322
    @youjitsuhoneybadgers8322 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw the title of your video and I instantly thought of lifting weights. And I was right lol. In my gym all the competition guys have to do the strength and conditioning classes. We also run every week. The kettlebell is the main tool for conditioning. And actually with a couple of guys we competed in a fitness contest. Its really no secret that conditioning is part of competing. I just love to look of my students looking relatively fresh in a match while their opponents gasp for air.

  • @zoomergrrlinluv
    @zoomergrrlinluv ปีที่แล้ว

    bro. youre the best.i cant get enough of you, TY

  • @Alex-ej3by
    @Alex-ej3by ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think its important to remember that generalized training programs often attached to classes which are pre set are not amazingly useful. The program should be individualized for strengths,weaknesses, ability level, stress level and a whole host of other factors. This means it should really be seperate from class. My conditioning is usually doing the next class rather than going home and then i address areas for development the day after also.

    • @BrazilianJiuJitsu101
      @BrazilianJiuJitsu101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, wrestling and Judo programs disagree with you

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@BrazilianJiuJitsu101Wrestling and judo programs are for little kids that are groomed into winning medals for a country. They're not good for the individual athlete either, but merely supposed to find talented kids.
      If you pay for running on matts, you're getting scammed. There's simply no way around that. You're paying for something that's completely free.

  • @jiujitsuismyoutlet
    @jiujitsuismyoutlet ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this. In judo we did crazy conditioning drills. I introduce some of it to BJJ whenever I teach class and people always get smoked but everyone loves it

  • @thejchristopher
    @thejchristopher ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can blame part of it on the hammering of “don’t use strength” and the stereotype of purple belts skipping warmups. 😂

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you’re brilliant, I agree with you 99% of the time and the knee advice is so useful and although I’m not a wrestling or BJJ or jujitsu guy and even though I do conditioning - for military as a Army reservist as well as personal health being over 40 yrs old. Based on my street fighting experience I don’t see a necessity for conditioning. That being said I agree about the benefits you’re describing so it definitely helps. But I’m responding only as someone who gets in a ton of streetfights but not UFC matches. Not all but the majority of my streetfights have been over very quickly and I don’t mean police or anyone breaking up the fight.

  • @pamphlex
    @pamphlex ปีที่แล้ว

    So much truth in this video, it should go viral.

  • @pasteghost428
    @pasteghost428 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I like the real talk on this channel. I grew up in Ohio wrestling. Most street fights I've been in through the years, I've defended myself successfully and consistently thanks to wrestling. Yet when I was in school being coached by a Vietnam Combat Veteran, I was so foolish to believe I wasn't learning a martial art and believed it to be just a sport. Later on all that training and conditioning just snapped on automatically and I was shocked at how easily I could work my attacker over. Even big boys. If you don't know how to deal with tie clinches and double legs...etc. ya might git burnt. 😊

    • @stevenhewes1990
      @stevenhewes1990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💯
      The amount if guys I have destroyed in a street fight with a wrestling/boxing combo.

    • @pasteghost428
      @pasteghost428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevenhewes1990 I believe you. I wasn't confident most of the time and I'm not a tough guy at all. Lol. I've also been hurt and sent to the hospital. Fighting is serious business sometimes and should be avoided if possible. But man alive, thank the Lord there was a wrestling team at my schools. It literally saved my life.

  • @dudester6182
    @dudester6182 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude ... Based off of a lot of what I see inside of gyms around me... It really seems like U have one of if not THE BEST gyms in the WORLD. Appreciate this ALOT and Im totally coming to Canada!, I just have to get more off time so I can try again.

  • @molnoob3451
    @molnoob3451 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I actually prefer doing weights right before BJJ classes as i find its a great way to stretch out and loosen up your muscles post workout. This way you're not dehydrated / depleted during your weights session and you're still hydrated with a full gas tank of cardio for BJJ. I'll also put electrolytes and creatine in my water to assist in both hydration and endurance.

  • @davidclaassen6977
    @davidclaassen6977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amen,
    I did judo for around 12 years and as a youngster I did train with some super high level youth champions. The warming ups were full of situps, pushups and all kind of shenanigans. I now do a lot of grappling/nogiBJJ and some lessons my coach asks me to do the warming up. Other people at the club usually do some rolls, hip escapes and stuff to warm up but I started to do some heavy conditioning inspired by my early Judo years and got quite the positive feedback of it! Gotta love growing stronger

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have never seen someone get meaningfully stronger from this bullshit. There's no progression. It's impossible for some and super easy for others. It's not nearly enough volume. There's a bunch of courses at my university that basically just do that, a variety of bodyweight training combined with cardio and those ppl stay perpetually small.
      Besides, you don't need matts or partners for any of that shit. When you're on the matts with others, you should do stuff that requires matts and partners.

  • @ericm425
    @ericm425 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If class (boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ) is one hour long, I'm pissed if 30 minutes of that is spent doing road work or ropes. I pay to learn skills and train. I will get conditioning & strength training on my own time.

  • @RollinBoy
    @RollinBoy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What helped me dramatically with conditioning, reactive strength from all angles, explosiveness, injury prevention (especially my joints in my shoulders and knees, and develops an iron core) and is a whole heap of fun (to me anyway) is kettlebell juggling. First, know what your doing, learn the general kettlebell movements, then start light, stay light (16kg is more than enough) do round the worlds, figure 8s, flips, passes, behind the back slingshots, the bell technically is never travelling towards you, so its easy to dodge if you screw up, plus it really helps you focus. Finally what’s interesting is that your having so much fun you forget your heart is beating like a jackhammer 😂

    • @JCBPARISPARIS
      @JCBPARISPARIS ปีที่แล้ว

      So you are juggling with how many 16 kg kettlebells ?

    • @RollinBoy
      @RollinBoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JCBPARISPARIS lol just one

  • @decidedivan4597
    @decidedivan4597 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely agree with you 100%

  • @chasingmypinnacle
    @chasingmypinnacle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I main bjj, I also do kick boxing, however I run every day if I can, and incorporate lift days on days I don’t train and train.
    When I have more time, I will be training in wrestling.

  • @k.schmidt8958
    @k.schmidt8958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo!

  • @bclr6843
    @bclr6843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He’s got a good point here. I think for a long time we’ve all pretended that rolling was physical conditioning and he just explained very well

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is for a while until you've adapted.

  • @weStayModest
    @weStayModest ปีที่แล้ว +23

    To be fair I’ve beaten people I’ve had no business beating because I thrive being in the spotlight I love that feeling of having a crowd. I took public speaking in college and it helped quite a bit. Conditioning yourself to high pressure situations is also important.

  • @TerrenceThomas
    @TerrenceThomas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The two best things I did in school. Wrestling and typing class. 💯

  • @Solairethedarksoul
    @Solairethedarksoul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do my conditioning in between BJJ classes.

  • @racer89gt
    @racer89gt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like your take on this. An opinion though- you said not to train knees over toes as you do it in wrestling. I’m curious though- if you never work this range of motion then go to that extreme in live drills/wrestling, wouldn’t that be less than ideal? Either way keep up the good work!

  • @antoniomatic9196
    @antoniomatic9196 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so truth!!!!

  • @TheAccentPodcast
    @TheAccentPodcast ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad someone addressed the lack of takedowns in BJJ. Thats why Ortega and Diaz have hard time againt wrestlers or superior strikers despite their high level ground game - they just pull the guard and get mauled

  • @pjs777s.8
    @pjs777s.8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn’t agree more!

  • @daleraminov1650
    @daleraminov1650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Assalomualekum brother. Agreed totally. I’ve done a bit wrestling and Sambo and those skills are great tools when I roll with BJJ guys ..

  • @arturborubar4014
    @arturborubar4014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if I started wrestling in late years I started when I was 18 and still had one training in week strictly wrestling other are grappling and bjj. Could I still be a good wrestler? GSP started wrestling late if I know correctly

  • @autisticus1678
    @autisticus1678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started nogi BJJ at 22, there’s a pretty good amount of wrestling at my gym so I’m trying to learn as much as possible, I arguably have been more heavily wrestling when we go live I like to start the roll standing and shoot for takedowns.

  • @Maodifi
    @Maodifi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Completely agree. I don't do a ton of conditioning, but if I just completely ignored it, I would probably get run over twice as much at my gym. The majority of people at my gym are competing in wrestling, MMA, or submission grappling, so they all sink in that time to condition their bodies. Conditioning makes your grappling better!

  • @Dazed_and_confused1
    @Dazed_and_confused1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely agree!

  • @cxoolio
    @cxoolio ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with everything you said except for not training knees over toes. Ben Patrick has revolutionized that thought process and his methods are phenomenal, what is your opinion on this?

  • @SpartanExistence
    @SpartanExistence ปีที่แล้ว

    Fellas, DO THE WORK!

  • @JamezAdam
    @JamezAdam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a Blue belt that’s been too reliant on the Gi. The focus now is No Gi and wrestling as I don’t want to be a higher belt that gets my ass kicked in the street 😆

  • @rivhaaken9763
    @rivhaaken9763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love strong and stable knees!

  • @ChristopherCarpenter
    @ChristopherCarpenter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like there's also an argument that he had about feeling more calm and competition so that way you don't have the adrenaline dump and decreased work capacity.

  • @Undone545
    @Undone545 ปีที่แล้ว

    I concur 100%. John danaher had similar sentiments on either lex or Rogan podcasts as he said words to the effect of "until relatively recently most bjj practitioners learned the sport as adults and voluntary fashion. This is somewhat amateurish compared to other sports talk less combat sports that have infrastructure in place to funnel, train and categorise elites in that sport from a young age" the lack of conditioning speaks to the "part-timer" approach to the sport

  • @sir_smilesalot7589
    @sir_smilesalot7589 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I compete alot in BJJ, and I always viewed strength and conditioning as "doing my homework" on top of my training. Because of that, I've always dominated my competition, well into blue belt. That, and it helps control my weight and stay lean, therefore boosting my confidence

  • @ramirovillanueva180
    @ramirovillanueva180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am at Carlson Gracie BJJ school and we always have to do rollouts for no-gi. Gi class we do basic warmups, stretches, and roll outs. We also have one teacher who will make us to conditioning by doing drills and he will do it for the whole class. Add in they combine Judo moves. I guess I’m lucky. Hate to get into an altercation and run out of gas. It’s hell sometimes but it’s worth it.

    • @tundrabanks3647
      @tundrabanks3647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that out there in England? I think I’ve heard of that spot.

    • @ramirovillanueva180
      @ramirovillanueva180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tundrabanks3647 no this school is in Homewood, Illinois USA

    • @tundrabanks3647
      @tundrabanks3647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ramirovillanueva180 Ah, I think I got it confused with Carlson Gracie Hull, a different gym. Anyhow, have a good one, & keep training!

  • @genises200
    @genises200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Agree with everything aside from "Don't go knees over toes" started Knees over toes program and felt my joints are much better

    • @CoachZahabi
      @CoachZahabi  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please give me an update 5 years from now. Ive been using my program well over 10 years with countless professionals in the most brutal sport in the world. Time will tell.

    • @nile7999
      @nile7999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CoachZahabi that's a fixed mindset coming from ego coach, in a couple of years there'll be more evidence hopefully on the pros and cons of knees over toes. There are many roads that lead to Rome

    • @squidguard4743
      @squidguard4743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nile7999 he has a nasty ego on him, his way is the best way. Also, he’s known for shitting on knees over toes guy cause he claims his student did one of the programmes and was injured for life.

    • @scarred10
      @scarred10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knee over toes happens in wrestling anyway but emphasising it to the extreme in training is unnecessary stress on the kneecap.Knee over toez guy is completely uneducated in sports medicine so his opinion means nothing just marketing

    • @genises200
      @genises200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scarred10 knees over toes it's not to emphasize it to theextreme. It's to strengthen all the muscles around the knee so if it does happens it greatly reduces injury. I fixed my MCL,ACL by doing knees over toes. Went to physical therapy and it got better but I got feel it about to tear, I talked about and pointed out where in my knee felt like a thin thread. They didn't help. Did knees over toes and boom fixed. Only heard of it because a wrestlers was going to get surgery for his ACL but hates surgery and did Knees Over Toes. He is now competing again consistently

  • @Peshur
    @Peshur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s best warm up for BJJ for over 40 years old?

  • @oarymma
    @oarymma ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey coach would you consider rolls as conditioning? Or live goes wrestling as conditioning? Whats your thought on this

    • @oarymma
      @oarymma ปีที่แล้ว

      Like would that be good for just the endurance and cardio of your sport, and then afterwards do some strength conditioning?

  • @pbc662
    @pbc662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci coach

  • @fugaspapa2818
    @fugaspapa2818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Especially when there is nothing like grounded opponent in a real fight. If you pull guard on the ground, it may not end up well for you. I made my kids start karate at 5yrs but your are right, they should have started wrestling. Most of my fights when I was a kid was basically wrestling although I had no formal tuition until I started martial arts at 11yrs

    • @marinmarinhola
      @marinmarinhola ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Ground is a bad position in a real fight. Which is why getting your opponent in that position is beneficial. Wrestling is the best starting combat sport there is because of that

  • @thegoat5587
    @thegoat5587 ปีที่แล้ว

    So can you do continioning (mix of calisthenics and weight lifting) in the evening and grappling in the morning? Firas mentioned that his athletes do grappling and conditioning in the same session.

  • @satsatdown
    @satsatdown ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to do Muay Thai, Conditioning was huge, before and after.
    I do BJJ now, we generally do conditioning before class only as a part of the warm up. Generally finish with sparring

  • @theaouch4749
    @theaouch4749 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% correct.

  • @701garage
    @701garage ปีที่แล้ว

    We did a lot of sprints and also would wrestle several rounds with no break. Remember wrestling 2 vs 1 it was hard having 2 guys hold you down

  • @NDtoker
    @NDtoker ปีที่แล้ว

    My competition classes we do burpees and other calestincs in between rolls as penalties for certain things like losing back control or mount

  • @scratchyjw
    @scratchyjw ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe it is to cater to people from all walks of life who are not training to compete. And also BJJ is kinda promoted to be something like everyone can pick up regardless of your fitness level.
    But most competition classes do have some conditioning...

  • @chenwang643
    @chenwang643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    only trained at one bjj gym and we´ve done conditioning from the start

  • @alexmarques2398
    @alexmarques2398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said, in real the fine motor coordination goes to the sink, the strength becomes unreal.. 👍
    Do conditioning. But I still advocate to train them separately, for the most part. Or muscle will replace ‘art’, instead if supporting it. 👀

  • @elsuperpollo2273
    @elsuperpollo2273 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have students who participate in cycling, running and lifting weights and train in BJJ and in muythai

  • @NabilAbdulrashidComedy
    @NabilAbdulrashidComedy ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like.. at my bjj gym there is a kid who has been doing judo (at an Olympic level gym) and bjj since she was like six whenever she’s matched with regular bjj kids even when they’re older or higher belts she literally steamrolls them with strength alone

  • @docdoc
    @docdoc ปีที่แล้ว

    I tore the miniscus in my knee, can that be rehabed? I used to be in great shape, once upon..

  • @MrDannysayers
    @MrDannysayers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would doing your conditioning on a seperate day be an option Firas?

  • @maxpower9432
    @maxpower9432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree 100% on the point to do conditioning After the sparring
    What about speed strength or strength Training where you actually should be relaxed to make improvements ?

    • @scarred10
      @scarred10 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do it in a totally seperate workout when rested.

  • @TheDOS
    @TheDOS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For hobbies, and let’s be honest, that’s almost all of us: we have limited time and resources. You love grappling/BJJ so you pay with $ and time for it. There is a valid argument for just paying for the training and tutelage in what the BJJ/grappling experts have to offer, being the actual technique and mobility of grappling/bjj. Then you can be responsible for your own conditioning.
    In different stages of my life, I’ve don’t both. Later in life, I’m more on the side of separating the conditioning from the art and rolling. Everyone needs different amounts of warmup, dealing with different issues, etc. I think early on, it’s good to introduce good movement etc, but not take up too much time with it. It is up to the individual to do their conditioning when it comes to the hobbyist setting. Or setup conditioning times/classes if you will.

  • @TheJoeyG88
    @TheJoeyG88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Friendly question, does this slightly contradict your interview with Rogan? The one where you had an interesting concept of not rolling 100% at practice, as well as not maxing out reps and work rate in condoning exercises? Not trying a "gotcha" question just trying to see if I'm missing something in that previous theory of not going all out in either. Thanks In Advance!!!

  • @nile7999
    @nile7999 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I pay for a BJJ membership to learn jiu jitsu. I go to class to learn and practice technique.
    I don't want to spend a portion of class doing jumping jacks, pushups, a bunch of running, etc. I already go to the gym and run outside pretty frequently too. Let me learn just jiu jitsu dammit!

  • @MichaelSmith-ny9qh
    @MichaelSmith-ny9qh ปีที่แล้ว

    I did join a gym, relson gracie that did have longer classes and conditioning was included. Few and far between for sure from what I've seen.

  • @kedah2398
    @kedah2398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, after open mats on Sat and Sun I hit the gym and I wouldn't really call it "conditioning for BJJ" it's more like a full body workout with moderate weights and reps till failure. My condition actually happens at home during the week with my Kettles, power bands and Echo bike and it's rough, those 20/10 will turn your legs to jello!! I'm bidding on a cable x-over machine to add to the home gym... hoping I win the auction.

  • @swithgk6538
    @swithgk6538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheres the running video you've mentioned please ?

  • @LloydSmithsonian
    @LloydSmithsonian ปีที่แล้ว

    41 years old, 6'2", 165 lbs ... Tweaked my hip - i still don't know what it is - from training BJJ with young stud, 200+ lbs after doing some heavy deadlifts earlier in the day. I felt the tweak when loading big boy up for a sweep but still didn't give up the position and kept rolling.
    It's taken forever to heal and when it does it tends to resurface during a competition.
    I wish I'd seen this earlier!!!! But i kind of learned this intuitively.
    In particular, lower body workouts seriously degrade my BJJ performance. On the other hand, if I do upper body exercises they don't seem to affect my mat performance too much.
    Thanks for the explanation!

  • @joennejordbaer
    @joennejordbaer ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of truth spoken in this vid

  • @Micolashcage1
    @Micolashcage1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depends on the academy

  • @thisismydiecastlife
    @thisismydiecastlife ปีที่แล้ว

    I go to the gym at 5 or 6 in the morning 4-5 times a week and than I do Jiu Jitsu in the evening 3-4 times a week. I’m just a one year white belt but for sure because I worked out regularly before I am much more durable.

  • @Kalernor
    @Kalernor ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BJJ allows for the style of being content on your back and trying to take your time to build towards a submission. This doesn't work in MMA if the person on top of you knows what he's doing and is raining down punches on your face AND seeking to advance position and get a submission!

  • @akisuzuki
    @akisuzuki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basketball on concrete does a lot more to the knees than you think. The stress might not be the same, however, the impact is the type of stress basketball players are susceptible to. I hear you, wrestlers have tremendous muscle and joint strength compared to many athletes. Basketball players can’t train too much strength because it’ll take away from speed, endurance, and skill work. If anyone plays basketball for hours, without basketball conditioning, they will experience pain/soreness.

  • @Strangingness
    @Strangingness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm thinking of doing BJJ.
    I want to see if now that I'm older and wiser I can make martial arts apart of my lifestyle as a form of exercise, and I figured I'd go for BJJ. (I've done Martial arts in the past, and MMA/Boxing but didn't stay committed). I did alot of grappling when I went to MMA and messed up my finger it was jacked up for months and still hurts a bit now, so I'm working on my grip strength and other things to prepare me better.
    But after watching this I hope they practice take downs, and all facets in another gym I'm going to. However I'm in the UK and we don't have wrestling, I can definitely lift weights at home and hit the bag which I've been doing anyway.
    But other than doing maybe Judo aswell, and or looking at videos of single legs and get a partner to try it out maybe I'm not sure.
    Maybe try to bring the wrestling into the gym by learning myself is the answer? I think I may have answered my own question lol.
    Also something that put me off doing Judo is people say their knees and shoulders get jacked up, well after watching this I have hope if I keep hitting the weights and be mindful I could probably nullify that issue.
    Thanks for the video Coach.

  • @theyoungfool.1895
    @theyoungfool.1895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that would be interesting would be Muay Thai styled BJJ classes where you exercise as well as grapple, could this mixed classes assist in strength conditioning and work capacity? Is it the key to that Thai mentality and high school grappler resilience? Would be interesting to see what we can do to condition grapplers up to that high school level, especially for other countries like Australia.

    • @squidguard4743
      @squidguard4743 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is a terrible idea lol. I don’t want to exercise, I want to learn jiu jitsu and sharpen my techniques and timing. The reason wrestlers are fit is because of the intensity they train and extra conditioning they do. Bjj competitors are also very fit, they train at a high intensity and also do conditioning on and off the mats. Firas is talking about hobbyists bjj guys in this video, not elite competitors of this sport

    • @theyoungfool.1895
      @theyoungfool.1895 ปีที่แล้ว

      But this increases the intensity, adds more conditioning preferably similar to a wrestler while sharpening techniques and timing under great fatigue similar to wrestlers.
      Now, will the average BJJ hobbyist enjoy this types of classes depends, most won’t, I’ll admit that, because they don’t want to exercise while doing Jiu Jitsu, they just want to grapple but those who want to, elite or average guy who wants to simply be at that elite level, people who want that intensity or to train themselves for MMA, because that’s what there used to in other martial arts or simulate that training for self defence but they’ll get what they want out of BJJ and they’ll have something new to bring.
      This also could also give the only method other countries have to have similar wrestling to America and finally get into wrestling scene.
      It may be a terrible idea but it also could be a terrific idea if implemented, programmed and tuned properly, it could also be an amazing tragedy but I’d just like to try it out even just for myself, even though I’m not exactly elite!

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@theyoungfool.1895That's total bullshit.
      Would you do your maths homework deliberately sleep deprived? Do you think that'll make you better at the test?
      No, you learn best when you're optimally rested.
      Trying to combine cardio with learning is just silly.

  • @VelhaGuardaTricolor
    @VelhaGuardaTricolor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Master Firas, I would like to know if instead of wrestling a BJJ black belt should simply learn to kick ( all variations ) I say that bc as I see it. If you kick, you can't get knocked out, since your head is too far from danger. If you kick, you will inflict considerable damage, and ultimately the only down side of kicking is being taken down by someone who got sick and tired of being kicked and rush you into closing the distance. ( which actually can easily turn into them being taken down with a simple duck and double leg ) either way there you go fighting on the ground.
    That was the basis of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu ( GRACIE JIU JITSU ) back in the day, and it worked like a charm every single time. It may not work in modern MMA fights, but for self defense on the streets should be plenty. Right?
    PS.: I am all for conditioning. There are many places that include conditioning.

  • @ph1models
    @ph1models ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you say rolling RGA 31st live is real or is a fight more real?

  • @thiagoperelloolave597
    @thiagoperelloolave597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody can recomend me what physical preparation can i do for bjj?? Like excercises or things like that

  • @sschuyler1
    @sschuyler1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw an interview recently with Marcelo Garcia where he indicated he regretted not paying more attention to strength and conditioning during his career.

  • @user-zg7lw6si3d
    @user-zg7lw6si3d ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What type of cardio training outside of rolling do you recommend for BJJ or MMA athletes?

    • @abdullaali1799
      @abdullaali1799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Running, Body weight exercises and stretching are a very good start.

    • @quack9104
      @quack9104 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@abdullaali1799 people really complicate shit right?😂 I get asked all the time why my cardio is so good I tell them I run and do sprints. It’s not daily but I get it in each week and improve consistently over a long period of time. I also try to lift a few times a week some weeks it might be two times but the consistency is there. A lot of people I’ve noticed want to be told what to do for conditioning with someone physically there coaching them. Most jiu jitsu guys just don’t have it in them to do it on their own outside of practice. I grew up wrestling for 8 years so I learned first hand growing up technique isn’t everything when my opponent as physically superior and out technique was equal.

    • @agentnukaz1715
      @agentnukaz1715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like how much running

    • @quack9104
      @quack9104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@agentnukaz1715 honestly it can be 1 time or up to 5 times in a week the key is to never overdue it and kill yourself. Have a long term mindset picture your cardio a couple years down the road. If I’m super busy then the number drops down to 1 but I feel like as long as I make I get the work in at least 1 time in the week I’m good. Long term mindset everyone wants their cardio to improve overnight but it doesn’t work that way.

    • @samallardyce2522
      @samallardyce2522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      swimming!