SCOTUS denies cert for Illinois' gun ban saying case not ripe yet, blasts appeals court rationale
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- Live to tape, Bishop reports out the long anticipated orders list from the U.S. Supreme Court about whether they'd take up the cases challenging Illinois' gun ban. The court decided to deny cert as the case wasn't on final judgement yet, but Justice Thomas blasted the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals' rationale that commonly owned firearms are "militaristic" and may be able to be banned.
Read the order, starting at page 13, here: www.supremecou...
We’re supposed to be a nation of laws but it seems that the judicial system does everything it can to subvert and delay that idea.
The judicial system was meant to serve the citizens. Now it serves politicians to be used AGAINST the citizenry.
We aren't a large corporation so it's what to expect. Look no further than judges getting gifts.
@@jeffjohnson6709 "regulatory capture" is the technical term for it.
Well that is a huge disappointment. Thanks for the share Greg.
Just about what we expected, justice delayed, justice denied. While SCOTUS is rightly wary of jumping into the business of the lower courts, it should not give deference to a rogue lower court in the denial of an enumerated right.
Especially when its reasoning is so utterly flawed. I could see if this were another case involving a lesser matter as well, but we're talking one of the first 3 items in the Bill of Rights.
We just cant win in this cursed state can we... frustration is rediculous!! ACB messed us uppppp
No she didn't. Her home state is red and free!
Nope. You live in America's version of Mordor!
We can we just need to (unfortunately) let it play out in the court system. There is going to be a ton of pressure on the 7th Circuit to hear this case so I don't expect it to take more than 2 years. We will get a win! At this rate I can see IL turning red and getting a Republican Governor. Pigster and the Chicago clowns are wrecking everything they touch and have been for the last 40 years.
Ridiculous...
ACB is another power tripping liberal that hates our rights. They don’t care about safety it’s all about control
It must be tough being a lawful gun owner in Illinois. You have my sympathy.
Unfortunately, Illinois citizens are not alone in suffering under democrat politician decrees.
Thinking I would be a former citizen
It's only going to get much worse too.
@aquariumdude7829 so grateful you are here. Talking about how you got out. Probably moved to a red state and can have any gun you want. Rubbing it in our face. Reminding us how we should have all moved years ago
@@aquariumdude7829remember some of us are just to lazy to move.
It will be 2 years before we would get any ruling on these cases from the Supreme Court. The 7th circuit will play the delay game with these cases for a long as possible.
I bet it will be closer ten years
@@BK-oo1bl I'm optimistic lol
@@cvillefarmer I hope I’m wrong
@@BK-oo1blMore like a hundred years! 😂
@@cvillefarmer Hope in one hand, crap in the other. See which one fills up quicker
So the people of illinois has not been denighed our 2nd ammendment rights long enough eah. Just how long is the constitutional denial requirement before it is ripe?
Mcglynn is going to be ruling on the merits in a couple months
@@reimagedmedia1955 That the 7th Circuit will strike down as quickly as possible.
@@reimagedmedia1955 Correct. September 16th. So once again... months of denial of our rights.
@@holdingonforlife1 Which will in turn lead to another delay before the final challenge can make it to the SCOTUS dockets. Dan Eldridge, among others involved in the cases, are estimating that we won't see any potential relief until 2025.... if we even do. And at this point, I question whether we will when Thomas talks of having to "define" what "arms" are so lower courts can still ignore the 2A.
Our judicial system is broken and being used against us, instead of FOR us.
@@holdingonforlife1 how fast is that tho? As fast as freedom week? Even tho that was considered a "emergency" and not a final judgment on the merits?
What the hell does not ripe mean. How ripe does an unconstitutional law have to be before SCOTUS looks at it.
poorly wordert. not viable yet would have been a better phrase
It means absolutely nothing.
@@aquariumdude7829nothing. Exactly what you do to help.
Hell, it's beyond ripe, it's rotten and it stinks. Doesn't get any riper than that.
@@tedross2424 ripe: perhaps the judges have been sampling new wines too often.
This contortion of verbiage by supposed "legal minds" are denying our rights. I once had an attorney say to me "Why use two words when you can use 2000?" When our culture is continuing to disintegrate and we are our own first responders, it behooves each of us to practice, train, and yes, get your legal protection lined up ahead of time. Not only was this petition denied, so is our justice in this cause. Thank you so much Greg for this important update, bad as it is.
I would rather be my own 1st responder. I already function as one for the public.
@@user-wu1ir5fm7g I hear ya. I'm a retired one.
Atleast Thomas gave lawyers plenty to work with
Thanks, Greg. Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has been a disappointment.
Most of them are. They just seem to switch that role amongst them.
Typical bleeding heart liberal woman pretending to be a conservative.
Good move by Thomas. He gave the Seventh a sword to fall on. I wish he had emphasized that burden is on the state to prove historic analogs as he did in Rahimi.
So the U.S Supreme Court isn’t taking these cases?
Thomas just said they will take the case if the 7th circuit doesnt get their head out of their asses and base their judgement on the cited case law.
@@ryand3880 thanks for explaining..At first it sounded like they were going towards the direction that they were taking these cases but then towards the end it throw me off.
No.
@@emilianozapataa4184 yep its all a mess. The 7th is notorious for misinterpreting case law and doing what they want, politically motivated. If that remains the case we will see an overturn on the SCOTUS level.
@@aquariumdude7829 WRONG ANSWER scrub.
The terms "Ripe" and not ripe is used to describe new wine not yet fit for drinking.
I question whether the judge who used that term may be sampling a bit too much
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As a young man 50 years ago, was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI offense ...
All offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY.
After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) the return to civilian life was difficult... (Honorable Discharge )
Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old United States Marine regain his gun right for family and home protection after 50 defenseless, prohibited years based on nexus with 18USC(g)(1)
(g) It shall be unlawful for any person-
(1) who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
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Agreed! Sorry about your loss of freedom it's not right.
Thanks Greg!
Slooooooooow walking.
Thank you, Greg, for giving us this update and helping us make sense of it. I see this as good news! People need to understand that the court system has to follow procedures, which is how it's designed. The Supreme Court can't simply be the lenient parent who steps in when we hear something that we don't like. I'm confident that they will eventually become the Court to issue the final ruling, which will ultimately return our 2nd rights on a permanent basis. Good things are worth waiting for. Thanks again, Greg!!
Thanks for the feedback!
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Good question!
I for one love all the content you post. 2A is just a plus for me. Thanks for all you do to bring the honest news to us! We sure need it and you these days.
Much appreciated!
0-14 on bans since Buren.Wont make the playoffs or get a first round draft pIck.
This means the seventh circuit will...
Play PING PON with our gun rights...AGAIN !
For another year?
With all the blinding speed of that vintage, early video game
More like another 100 years.
@@aquariumdude7829doesn't matter.
USA won"t last nearly that long with current politicians controlling Washington DC..
@@aquariumdude7829 wrong, just totally wrong as per usual.
Oh...it's ripe
More time for the seventh circus to drag this out...
the beauty of our system is that change is slow. the failing of the left is that they think that they can destroy the Constitution by quick presidential or state legislature fiat. Our founders saw the danger of a straight democracy. That is why they set it up the way they did. No one knows how the complete 7th circuit will decide, but if you have been watching what the supremes have been doing you should be pleasantly surprised.
What a load of crap! I know Thomas in a much told them to reverse their decision, but he should have put a stay on the law until that time.
Over 200 comments.
YT advertisers must be very happy.
A right delayed is a right denied.
Although I understand why it was denied, it still sucks. We are playing the long game. Hold.
You'll be waiting for a hundred years.
The inJustice System is definitely playing games, I agree.
What SCOTUS is doing is twiddling it's thumbs due to "optics", not wishing to appear as a activist court, while lower activist courts strip the rights of citizens while ignoring the previous decisions of the SCOTUS.
SCOTUS could end this tomorrow, but they won't because they are cowards.
It's easier to take rights away than to get them back. Unless you're a corporation.
You may want to change the title from “SCOUTS” to “SCOTUS”.
Supreme Court Of United Tyrannical States (SCOUTS)
Changed. Thanks!
Thomas is being more than fair by giving Easterbrook an off-ramp
Conservative here from Washington State. Watching with interest.
If this was about an individual wouldn’t we be claiming due process was being delayed unnecessarily? Aren’t we in affect putting the American people on trial and denying them due process in a timely manner?
"Dangerous 'and' Unusual" like infected blankets given as gifts ?
Where did I hear that from .... ?
Unlike activist state legislatures and courts the Supreme Court has to stay within the Constitution. McGlynn's case will have to run it's course. This is not over yet. The Supremes are not in the habit of reaching down and deciding on cases until the appellate cases are decided. Read Thomas's statement.
Once this is decided it will come down on the side of gun owners......look to what has been decided in Cali, NY, and other states.
Well said! You are 100% correct.
It won't matter. The Democrat rulers of the blue states don't listen to the courts anyway.
@@aquariumdude7829 you do nothing constructive. You only post what will undermine hope and resistance.
@@robertcuny934 yep Pigster bot gets paid to squat here and post BS. Sad this is another example of wasted tax money in IL.
Same in new jersey too, the ban will be thrown out.
nice les paul bishop
Still sounds great!
Spell check fail- title should be "SCOTUS" not "SCOUTS"
Noted and changed. Thanks!
No, he is correct, it's a group of cub scouts now.
It’s unconstitutional so just ignore it. You will win in federal court.
Except the SC will no longer back you....
We should be able to own full auto rifles and even jets if we can afford it
so the DNC and the liberal justices don't understand that that same immunity given to Trump can alsobe applied to all living former and current presidents.
I bet in fact they do understand this. Works in their favor as well doesn't it? It was a good win but could also be bad given our current clown show supposedly running the country and past losers, like Bill Clinton and Obama.
What of the is 50 case of the judge mcgleyn sp.
So basically the smart citizens of Illinois just not comply
Illinois politicians have been encouraging disregard for laws in many Chicago residents for decades. That will be the increasing standard of behavior regardless of what JB says or does.
Remember Prohibition and how few people obeyed that law,
Despite the severe penalties.
Just viewed WGN need report of fires started July 4th due to illegal fireworks. Possession baned on Illinois yet people have them.
Can you post a link ?
www.supremecourt.gov/orders/ordersofthecourt/23
Great info Bishop! Looks like a waiting game🙄 Thank you! It’s appreciated 🇺🇸
Any time!
I subscribe because all the spam from the new channel. Stories that did not concern me or interest me at all. Sad seems like a sell out to me.
Disappointing news, but great update. I now know a new word, tautological(ly), that aptly describes the verbiage of PICA and it’s ban on “ commonly used firearms.
Why would the Supreme Court take the Illinois case. When a Trial on the AWB is scheduled in Southern Illinois on September 16th. The Supreme court likes to have both Trial and Appellate court records before it takes a case.
It won't matter in the end. The Dems don't obey the "Supreme Court" and it has no enforcement powers anyway.
@@aquariumdude7829the crime cartels count on lack of enforcement of any laws.
Move to a red state if you can.
No stay and fight
Democrats controlling the White House and Congress next year would mean no where to run.
@@user-oi6op6uc2hAre we staying and fighting. Like REALLY fighting. Or are we just letting them tax the shit out of us and spit In our face.
I plan on going to Missouri end of next year
@@capella95hope Trump wins or you will be facing the same problems in that state as democrat voters will also be moving with you.
Democrats hate personally paying taxes but love making others pay.
@user-oi6op6uc2h Dude, posting macho, defiant comments on the internet is NOT fighting! 😂
This can be good for us bc knowing Illinois won’t budge on the law the SCOTUS will actually pick this case up 😊
Unless we can flip the state red/conservative and overturn the the BS laws. Until then we wait but I don't think it's going to take more than a year or two. Keep voting and vote conservative!
F the NRA
Scotus needs to lay down 1:44 1:45 1:46 process and go head on these challenges, time is of the essence...
But they won't.
@@aquariumdude7829 They will don't you worry lil Pigster bot.
The Illinois case should be taken by SCOTUS. It is clearly a violation to "In common use" principal.
But it won't be.
@@aquariumdude7829nothing is guaranteed but one
@@aquariumdude7829 Last I checked Illinois was no longer part on the US. Thus constitution no longer applies here
@@markp8950 All the blue states are pretty much the same way though some are worse than others.
@@aquariumdude7829with Democrats in red states constantly working to undermine liberty in red states and nationally.
What basis is the SCOTUS using when stating militaristic weapons?
I believe that 1776 civilians owned the exact weapons as militaries from around the world.
SCOTUS was quoting the 7th Circuits reasoning for siding with the state. The answer though is none. The 7th Circuit is making up their own precedent out of thin air and blatantly defying SCOTUS.
Police are exempt READ the 2A
So... what can all these plaintiffs do to recover all the legal fees used to fight an obviously unconstitutional law that even the lawmakers know its unconstitutional
Nothing.
@@aquariumdude7829exactly what you contribute.
@@robertcuny934 I wish I had moved out of this state 2 years ago as well.
@@markp8950 unfortunately those who move may merely sit on their laurels expecting someone else to keep the state red while Democrats work at state and federal levels to turn all states blue.
@@aquariumdude7829 Did you hear what Thomas said Pigster bot? I bet that made you cry a little didn't it? HAHAH! You know you're going to lose and wow does it feel great over here! Now crawl back under your shell in Florida, if that's really where you are at and be quiet.
Spineless court, a right delayed is a right denied
Can't we just all claim to be the lawfully elected president and say the hell with your silly laws.
Not a single branch, agency, organization or person in the government gives a rats ass about the constitution or our freedoms. When the laws are from tyrants it is our duty to ignore such laws. But not to ignore who the tyrants are.
The only problem with that is that they can still throw you in prison for not complying.
Unfortunately, the Illinois and cook county state's attorneys refuse to jail people causing crimes in favor of potentially jailing taxpayers that have a record of never violating laws.
@@aquariumdude7829yet Kim Foxx refuses to jail people on record as committing crimes in cook county regardless of weapon type or legality
@@aquariumdude7829 can you provide actual examples of someone going to jail for owning an AR in IL? Yeah didn't think so Pigster bot. Face it, your boss's gun control police is a complete and total epic fail. The compliance rate is laughable and I am sure much lower than what's even been reported. Can you also show me evidence of where these illegal gun "laws" have lowered crime in Chicago? You can't because just like your biggie boss, it's all BS. How much does the geew pay you to squat here?