I can't tell you how many times I've been in a flea market and wondered what kind of power turds like this one actually made and what they looked like inside. I love when you do videos like this one as much as I love your regular videos. Thank you Big D.
As usual, I commented before watching the video. After watching the video I found it to be quite shocking.⚡ Being in the business for over 30 years. I never came across an amplifier that was that size that put out such a small amount of wattage. I was guessing from the size and the fuse. 75 watts per Channel of junk. The outcome and the view of the interior was really something for me. Many of the newbies out there should be thrilled that there is a man like Big D that is producing these videos. Putting them up on TH-cam to gain a free education.
Damn, I can't believe that is such a big amp. The color is cool. Should have a wall of shame and a wall of fame for the good and the bad amps you test.
@@wal2 haha, explains where the output comes from. I expected a half size board or smaller. Was typical for old flea market amplifiers. Spent more in design and heatsinks, then actual components. I love these videos man. To think of the money I and others wasted in the early 90's just to jam out.
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Example, I know people personally, that went out and purchased Hyundai vehicles. When I asked them what they got they told me it was a Honda. Until I saw it in person. I'm not talking about now when the product is decent. I'm referring to 35 years ago, when it was garbage. There are many that get fooled buy a name, apparently.
I've bought a couple flea market amps in my life. 2 were decent. They probably didn't make close to rated power but they pushed my 12's enough that I liked it. One was called Nitro and the other was Koiiler. Both said 2000 watts but were probably 250 watts.
Similar story here. I had finished most of my first system out (Kenwood head and EQ, epicenter, MB Quart all around, Punch 12" subs) and ran out of money. No amps! So I had to get a temporary four-channel to run the highs until I could get something better so off to the flea market. I picked up a cheap garbage chip amp that (barely) got the job done for a few months until I had saved up enough to get a pair of Alpine 3554 amps. That amp had a lot of noise problems and I was surely glad to be rid of it.
A sucker is born every minute. " The owner of Barnum & Bailey Circus" How true. That's the reasoning behind these goods. The entire process. Design and development, production, sales, consumer.
I really miss the old under dash graphic equalizers. Forget the power rating, the lighted slides and bogus VU meters always looked cool at night. And changing the EQ setting from one song to the next was always a plus. Problem nowadays is that you have no under dash to put one, unless you want to bang up your, or your passengers' knees.
Because of your channel and others like it I no longer waste my money on junk anymore I've put together the best system I've ever had Because of these channels my systems hit hard now I have to fix my acoustics in my studio though because of vibration everything shaking and rattling 😆
Ahh the days of buying junk, been there many years ago! I cringe at the things i thought were good when i was young, these days i wish i could run more than i have but limited by space and my cars electrical system, i keep murdering alternators lol.
@@stevefox3763 that sucks I've got an old circuit city 600 watt dual 12 settup in my 76 Lincoln and it's just rusting away in my driveway but my room settup is so dam awesome wish I knew what I know now back then
@@rockman49er I run a 2100w RMS system with four 12's in a 2002 Ford Mondeo, its a V6 model and the V6 alternator is in a stupid place and a pain in the arse to change. Im on new one at the moment that went in a month ago but the last one catastrophically failed after 6 months and looked like i had an engine fire from all the smoke bellowing from the engine bay, lets see how long this one lasts ha ha.
In the late 90's in Texas, Phoenix Gold amps were all over the flea markets. they were ok'ish amps back then, I have no idea how they are doing in 2022.
I remember 90s headunits and they were lucky if they made 10 watts rms and they never worked on 2 ohm loads. Some would get that hot playing loud all day you could warp the case on your cassette tape.
And that is why I never bought a flea market amp. I think the fuse was to big. Could've gotten away with a 10amp fuse🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the video Big D👍🏼👍🏼
I'm fairly certain my Alpine CDE-HD149BT puts out more power than this thing does into 4 ohms! Then again I am kinda lookin for a KTP-445A to add to it...
@@wal2 yep...that said I got my hands on a KTP-445A today, gonna add it to my car on the weekend...a simple plug and play power upgrade for the front and rears. Should help elevate the sound quality at higher volumes with some reserve power!
I could just imagine their models once Hi-Res came out. "Yes it's Hi-Res, there's a hum at 10hz and a squeal at 40kHz we couldn't get rid of, don't worry you can't hear them 👍"
I was ripped off as a teenager with one of these I spent a weeks wages being a dishwasher and bussboy working hard long hours for one of these and when I hooked it up(I wanted 4 chan for my highs anyways and was going to add a subwoofer later. The factory stereo put out more power and bumped way harder than the flea market trash. To rub salt in the wound, 2 of the channels were wired backwards causing bass cancellation making it sound worse if you hook it up the way the amp said to. This caused my family to ridicule me and cause me to think about my life a little more and spend my money more efficiently instead of wasting it on amplifiers and speakers. This amp uses chips from a tv amplifier. I seen someone building one of these out of a trash 90's television set sitting on the side of the road.
I don't think you wasted your time. I believe this was a learning experience for you. There are many people that spend fortunes on audio equipment for their vehicles. That I believe is ridiculous. Nothing wrong with liking good sound. I wish you would have brought it back with some friends perhaps and got your money back.
@@Mr.Robert1 Same thing with those PMPO rated computer speakers. Bought a set that said 360watts PMPO and thought, my dad's DJ equipment was 240watts per channel, so theses things would blast that out of the water. Turned out to have 3 watt drivers in them.
@@ATSNorthernMI I'm very aware of the false Peak ratings on DJ equipment and car stereo equipment spent 30 years of my life in the retail business currently retired.
@@ATSNorthernMI I posted my reply but I have one question for you. How did you find out that the driver was rated at 3 watts I sold many brands of equipment in my day. I never heard or seen any company producing a driver that would actually stamp it 3 watts.
I remember being 15 years old...and thinking i can get a bigger off name amp- with more power- for less money. They feed off lack of knowledge... as always- love the videos.
I really like the look though. That would be a fun project to gut and repower. Is that a thing? Sleeper amps? You could fit a couple real boards in there for a 2.1 amp.
@@Cheapdrift The mesh circle is a perfect spot to put a Vu meter. I can see why you would want to do that with an Urban Audio Works amp. The sink is such beef.
It actually a nice looking amp! The board is probably the reference design from the data sheet with lowest quality and minimum spec parts. That chassis is unique/interesting enough to *almost* justify dropping a modern Class D board in there to make that amp actually perform really well.
I have an old flea market amp with that same chip and the board is totally different. Large power supply cap near the transformer and a large cap for each output channel in addition to the strapping caps
I understand what you're saying. The shell is actually good looking. Unfortunately nowadays, it's not worth the time or the money to do something like that. Better to use it as a display piece or target practice.
Man back in the day that amp won't of been that bad. Gotta remember alot of cars had 3-1/2's up front and the the dreded 4×10's in the back. You'd have a prime EQ under the tape deck that would help alot to!!
You should find and test some large 2 channel ab amps possibly 1 ohm stereo stable units there are a couple still made genius audio beast the duo b2 audio and audiopipe plus American bass has a big hybrid 2 channel there are alot of older stero guys who are stuck in the glory days of car audio who i believe would be interested in new old school amps
Hahaha thanks big D. I have an old JDL amp with that same chip, and you've tested at least two already that run it. This gold one is by far the best looking though
so really if the power line is oke with a Mosfet . than those chip can do 2x40watts . so for a 4x40 watts amp on 2 ohm wil fits in the 80/90 Amps . like the old Pioneer with 35watt Amps its a shame that the power supply really kill the amp performance .
*SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!* That should be in a museum! That must be why the power went out in CA, that thing draws some power! Big D, any recommendation for speakers that can handle that much power? How many alternators do I need? How many batteries? Can I fit that many in vehicle? Bottom line, are there any left in stock or did you snake the last one? Thanks for the laughs Big D .. I'm outta here ...
I had never seen one either. The eBay seller was so proud and knew I was gonna love this. I bought it prob 5yrs ago and it’s just been waiting for it’s day on the big screen 📺
Dude. Where do you find this stuff. Never see this stuff in my flee markets. Pretty cool to find though. Not surprising results. There were so many of these back in the day.
Hey Big D can you dyno some Pyramid and Pyle amps. Yes they are junk but I know there's gotta be a unicorn out there somewhere that may produce good numbers maybe not 🙂
would that be alpine's little sister? alphina?? I'm your age now but I used to work at the flea market as a late teenager and I used to see all these off brands. it's amazing what marketing tricks they used to try
@@wal2 when I was 15 the pyramid 10 band EQ with 150 or 300 watts was the big thing. And then the 805 with the spectrum analyzer display came out with the green backlit display and of course I just had to have one. But one of my first real trunk mountain amp which is what we called them when they first came out I'm sure you recall was a pa6120 sanyo with the remote equalizer with the motorized fader. That was the s***. Darlington power packs baby. I've watched most of your videos and I've never seen you rate one of those.. and let's not confuse pile the brand they are now versus the speaker manufacturer they were in the first place. They made the best 6x9 known to man with the original silk dome tweeter. I was fortunate enough to have these in the late 80s but before that I had the best system around with my cricket 6x9s
People must learn wattage it's only part of the scenario. Over the years, I have found when it comes to all audio equipment, 70% of the equation is, how does it sound. Followed by the other factors. Wattage, specifications, warranty.
It's always some Korean American guy with a southern accent, lightly smoking a cigarette that sells you amps at the flea market. All his stuff happens to be good okay LOL
that is a class b chip so your dyno probably stopped earlier than it should have. according to the datasheet it should be making 25w at 2ohm with 14.4v in and 0.5% thd. it is a 4ch chip but they running it in btl mode which i am not sure why they doing they could have easily got away with one chip powring all 4 speakers and made more profit it would have not made a tiny bit of difference to the value of this amp. even headunits from the time had more power. like the early 2000 headunits made 10-15w per channel at 4ohm. after 2005s they stopped at 20w per channel at 4ohm and 40w at 2ohm before sony decided to use class d and make 50w at 4ohm and 80w+ at 2ohm from headunits. followed by pioneer only releasing two models with that same class d chip found in sony mex xb100bt , 120bt and the gs80. while these manufactures have downgraded the class ab models. in 2010s they were using more advance and expensive chips. these days all use the same toshiba TCB502HQ and it can do 40w at 2ohm but the headunits don't seem to have enough heatsink and it gets very hot if you have the bass cranked up .
Your response is the first accurate post I have read in a long time. I have been in the electronics business for over 30 years. I'm retired now but I still build as a hobby. When reading commentary not only on audio equipment but other subjects it's so disappointing to see how ignorant our population has become. Considering everyone is walking around with a computer in their pocket. Access to the world, they still can't get things right? Getting Dumber as time goes on. I have to thank you for a logical comment.
I love these type of videos and idk why 😅 I’m surprised companies don’t do this nonsense anymore but I’m really glad we live in a time where knowledge is plentiful 🙏🏻
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I can't tell you how many times I've been in a flea market and wondered what kind of power turds like this one actually made and what they looked like inside. I love when you do videos like this one as much as I love your regular videos. Thank you Big D.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Big D I’ m hoping that you’re some guy that won the lottery and this is how you decided you would spend the rest of your days!
Love the channel!
I didn’t win the lottery but y’all helping me by watching and sharing my vids is 👌
As usual, I commented before watching the video. After watching the video I found it to be quite shocking.⚡ Being in the business for over 30 years. I never came across an amplifier that was that size that put out such a small amount of wattage. I was guessing from the size and the fuse. 75 watts per Channel of junk. The outcome and the view of the interior was really something for me.
Many of the newbies out there should be thrilled that there is a man like Big D that is producing these videos. Putting them up on TH-cam to gain a free education.
Damn, I can't believe that is such a big amp. The color is cool. Should have a wall of shame and a wall of fame for the good and the bad amps you test.
Saving them!
I was waiting for the sad Price is Right sample to play when you popped the cover off that thing. Thanks for the entertainment bro. ✌️
Vid needed more sound effects for sure!
Ikr?
The fuse is the giveaway immediately that you've been shystered when you buy a fleabag amp like this
True dat!
It's a dead giveaway it's a IC amp.
I have seen more parts in a science fair kit!! Nice work Big D!
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That big pad, was clearly, the Flux capacitor....
I think you R correct!
@@wal2 haha, explains where the output comes from. I expected a half size board or smaller. Was typical for old flea market amplifiers. Spent more in design and heatsinks, then actual components. I love these videos man. To think of the money I and others wasted in the early 90's just to jam out.
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Example, I know people personally, that went out and purchased Hyundai vehicles. When I asked them what they got they told me it was a Honda. Until I saw it in person. I'm not talking about now when the product is decent. I'm referring to 35 years ago, when it was garbage. There are many that get fooled buy a name, apparently.
I've bought a couple flea market amps in my life. 2 were decent. They probably didn't make close to rated power but they pushed my 12's enough that I liked it. One was called Nitro and the other was Koiiler. Both said 2000 watts but were probably 250 watts.
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Man… that Pyramid PB900 was bumping. Back in the 90s the flee market was one of the few places you could get and amp!
Similar story here. I had finished most of my first system out (Kenwood head and EQ, epicenter, MB Quart all around, Punch 12" subs) and ran out of money. No amps! So I had to get a temporary four-channel to run the highs until I could get something better so off to the flea market. I picked up a cheap garbage chip amp that (barely) got the job done for a few months until I had saved up enough to get a pair of Alpine 3554 amps. That amp had a lot of noise problems and I was surely glad to be rid of it.
I buss out laughing when you pulled the backplate!
So did the person who sold it to me!
A sucker is born every minute. " The owner of Barnum & Bailey Circus"
How true. That's the reasoning behind these goods. The entire process.
Design and development, production, sales, consumer.
Thanks for the morning laughs!
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I got burned in the early 80's with an Alphine Amp, didn't even noticed the h.. The alternator whine was louder than the music..lol
Bummer!
I remember going to CES back in like 87 and going to the JBC BOOTH
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I really miss the old under dash graphic equalizers. Forget the power rating, the lighted slides and bogus VU meters always looked cool at night. And changing the EQ setting from one song to the next was always a plus.
Problem nowadays is that you have no under dash to put one, unless you want to bang up your, or your passengers' knees.
I was thinking of that today and came across your comment - I want vumeters in my car
You killed it on this one.
You mean the Dyno killed the amp 🤣
Have you ever done power acoustic or any RadioShack amps just curious to see them Dyno...
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Because of your channel and others like it I no longer waste my money on junk anymore I've put together the best system I've ever had Because of these channels my systems hit hard now I have to fix my acoustics in my studio though because of vibration everything shaking and rattling 😆
Ahh the days of buying junk, been there many years ago!
I cringe at the things i thought were good when i was young, these days i wish i could run more than i have but limited by space and my cars electrical system, i keep murdering alternators lol.
@@stevefox3763 that sucks I've got an old circuit city 600 watt dual 12 settup in my 76 Lincoln and it's just rusting away in my driveway but my room settup is so dam awesome wish I knew what I know now back then
@@rockman49er I run a 2100w RMS system with four 12's in a 2002 Ford Mondeo, its a V6 model and the V6 alternator is in a stupid place and a pain in the arse to change.
Im on new one at the moment that went in a month ago but the last one catastrophically failed after 6 months and looked like i had an engine fire from all the smoke bellowing from the engine bay, lets see how long this one lasts ha ha.
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Stewie: Al-p-hine
Brian: why are you saying it like that?
Stevie: like ww-hot?
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Big D are you forgetting it’s 15 high performance watts? Close up just to see all the tremendous internals! Awesome video!
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Ya know it be slamming! Growing up in Seattle, I seen all of those sweet amps at the Midway Drive in. It was used as a flea market.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Always love your vids.
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Thanks for the laugh Big D Wiz. Keep ‘em coming. Oh by the way that color would be champagne.
That bad boy is all looks. Even had rca covers? Def a shop wall decoration
It's amazing to see stuff like this. Scammers always out to get your money!
@@wal2 well thanks to you, they ain't getting my cheddah baby! I've been converted to a synergy fanboy.
In the late 90's in Texas, Phoenix Gold amps were all over the flea markets. they were ok'ish amps back then, I have no idea how they are doing in 2022.
They still are in business just not sure how well they are doing
Needed a microscope for the internals 😆
I was expecting a tiny board in the middle like that other amp you showed once. hahaha
This was a big board with tiny components 😜
It's an oversized high level cross over for a head unit to run your tweeters or should I say ruin your tweeters.
Maybe if your head unit was RCA only this could power factory speaks
I remember 90s headunits and they were lucky if they made 10 watts rms and they never worked on 2 ohm loads. Some would get that hot playing loud all day you could warp the case on your cassette tape.
At least the PCB takes up the entire inside unlike some others! The fleamarket brands I always remember are the KENFORD and ROCKWOOD duo.
I ran a few of those back in the day, some of them were decent for the price. Never saw chip amps in them.
Kenford was junk but Rockwood had some semi ok amps
My local flea market back in the 90's had hifonics and ground zero.
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The flea market I used to go to had Earthquake amps and subs
And that is why I never bought a flea market amp. I think the fuse was to big. Could've gotten away with a 10amp fuse🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the video Big D👍🏼👍🏼
Yeah the fuse is a dead giveaway
Do have a yamaha ym-2060a love to see this on the dyno
pretty amp though. wonder if you could replace the guts with another board
You could buy this is a classic scam amp I wouldn’t dare modify
I'm fairly certain my Alpine CDE-HD149BT puts out more power than this thing does into 4 ohms! Then again I am kinda lookin for a KTP-445A to add to it...
I’m sure as well
@@wal2 yep...that said I got my hands on a KTP-445A today, gonna add it to my car on the weekend...a simple plug and play power upgrade for the front and rears. Should help elevate the sound quality at higher volumes with some reserve power!
I could just imagine their models once Hi-Res came out. "Yes it's Hi-Res, there's a hum at 10hz and a squeal at 40kHz we couldn't get rid of, don't worry you can't hear them 👍"
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That efficiency is crazy.
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Finally..an amp that won't tax my electrical
This won’t tax a 9V battery 😝
What happened to the Do It Bump Tho segment? I want to see it make that quad box dance! Lmao
Speakers can’t handle this beast
A product of American HiFi (Rockwood, DHD, Kenford, JDX, American Pro, Koiiler, Volfenhag, Forumla, Xplore etc). Also sold as Navigator High Fidelity.
All quality gear! 😜
I was ripped off as a teenager with one of these I spent a weeks wages being a dishwasher and bussboy working hard long hours for one of these and when I hooked it up(I wanted 4 chan for my highs anyways and was going to add a subwoofer later. The factory stereo put out more power and bumped way harder than the flea market trash. To rub salt in the wound, 2 of the channels were wired backwards causing bass cancellation making it sound worse if you hook it up the way the amp said to. This caused my family to ridicule me and cause me to think about my life a little more and spend my money more efficiently instead of wasting it on amplifiers and speakers. This amp uses chips from a tv amplifier. I seen someone building one of these out of a trash 90's television set sitting on the side of the road.
I don't think you wasted your time. I believe this was a learning experience for you. There are many people that spend fortunes on audio equipment for their vehicles. That I believe is ridiculous. Nothing wrong with liking good sound. I wish you would have brought it back with some friends perhaps and got your money back.
@@Mr.Robert1 Same thing with those PMPO rated computer speakers. Bought a set that said 360watts PMPO and thought, my dad's DJ equipment was 240watts per channel, so theses things would blast that out of the water. Turned out to have 3 watt drivers in them.
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I'm very aware of the false Peak ratings on DJ equipment and car stereo equipment spent 30 years of my life in the retail business currently retired.
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I posted my reply but I have one question for you. How did you find out that the driver was rated at 3 watts I sold many brands of equipment in my day. I never heard or seen any company producing a driver that would actually stamp it 3 watts.
@@Mr.Robert1I eventually took them apart and seen it.
I remember being 15 years old...and thinking i can get a bigger off name amp- with more power- for less money. They feed off lack of knowledge... as always- love the videos.
Yeah wish we had the ability to share stuff like this back then!
They could've at least taped a rubber on the inside to that big blank spot to really drive home the point that you just got fukked!!! 😂
Snap!
Reminds me of a guy in highschool in 1990 that got flea market ALFINE subs. Kept telling everyone they were Alpine.
Sucka!
I really like the look though. That would be a fun project to gut and repower. Is that a thing? Sleeper amps? You could fit a couple real boards in there for a 2.1 amp.
I was thinking the same thing with my urban audio works amp
@@Cheapdrift The mesh circle is a perfect spot to put a Vu meter.
I can see why you would want to do that with an Urban Audio Works amp. The sink is such beef.
@@c0c0asauce yea that is good idea i have the 100 watt amplifier
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Can you imagine picking up this amp, then spending hours or days buying and running the wiring only to end up with this?
Sad, sad day 😝
14 gauge power wire 😆
Truth!
Research, reviews, Ask questions.
What a BEAST!
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Where's the beef! I would have to wear eye protection and hearing protection after repairing and initial fire-up.
Yeah it was pretty brutal. I can’t believe I survived it
Where's the link to the head unit video?
Caught me slippin’
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Could you please do a review of the Stepsom Vulcan 8k please?
Thanks for the suggestion
It actually a nice looking amp! The board is probably the reference design from the data sheet with lowest quality and minimum spec parts. That chassis is unique/interesting enough to *almost* justify dropping a modern Class D board in there to make that amp actually perform really well.
I have an old flea market amp with that same chip and the board is totally different. Large power supply cap near the transformer and a large cap for each output channel in addition to the strapping caps
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WOW what a sad amp to bad though cause sure looks nice maybe mod a good amp to fit inside that case
I understand what you're saying. The shell is actually good looking. Unfortunately nowadays, it's not worth the time or the money to do something like that. Better to use it as a display piece or target practice.
Man back in the day that amp won't of been that bad. Gotta remember alot of cars had 3-1/2's up front and the the dreded 4×10's in the back. You'd have a prime EQ under the tape deck that would help alot to!!
Make dem 4x10’s bump
I'm in tears looking at the inside of that😂
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Hmmm was that some Phoenix Gold I saw
Good eye
Should've had the warranty sticker saying void if not broken
Yeah or a weight on the bottom panel
I believe that amplifier has the record for the most anemic board 😮😁
I think you’re correct. Made me want to get out my Hotwheels and race around there!
@@wal2 😂
Pretty funny that it was full size too! Usually the board looks like a credit card in there, 😆
Oh wow, thats hilarious inside!
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You should find and test some large 2 channel ab amps possibly 1 ohm stereo stable units there are a couple still made genius audio beast the duo b2 audio and audiopipe plus American bass has a big hybrid 2 channel there are alot of older stero guys who are stuck in the glory days of car audio who i believe would be interested in new old school amps
Thanks for the suggestion
Hahaha thanks big D. I have an old JDL amp with that same chip, and you've tested at least two already that run it. This gold one is by far the best looking though
Need to start putting Lay’s in dem
so really if the power line is oke with a Mosfet . than those chip can do 2x40watts .
so for a 4x40 watts amp on 2 ohm
wil fits in the 80/90 Amps .
like the old Pioneer with 35watt Amps
its a shame that the power supply really kill the amp performance .
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*SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!* That should be in a museum!
That must be why the power went out in CA, that thing draws some power!
Big D, any recommendation for speakers that can handle that much power?
How many alternators do I need? How many batteries? Can I fit that many in vehicle?
Bottom line, are there any left in stock or did you snake the last one?
Thanks for the laughs Big D .. I'm outta here ...
Yeah nuclear power required 😝
Just about every amp you test I remember or have seen. no this This one
I had never seen one either. The eBay seller was so proud and knew I was gonna love this. I bought it prob 5yrs ago and it’s just been waiting for it’s day on the big screen 📺
Dude. Where do you find this stuff. Never see this stuff in my flee markets. Pretty cool to find though. Not surprising results. There were so many of these back in the day.
I search high and low for crap 💩
4:48 was not surprised at all 😂
Crazy stuff
Oh no! My flea market amp PTSD was triggered from clear back in the 90's!!! I panic when I see flea market crap!
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You made the lights dim at my house, and I'm in Wichita kS.
See that power can ripple effect the whole power grid
Hey Big D can you dyno some Pyramid and Pyle amps. Yes they are junk but I know there's gotta be a unicorn out there somewhere that may produce good numbers maybe not 🙂
Thanks for the suggestion
Way too funny Dereck 😂
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Love the metal things that look like staples.haha. they're everywhere
It’s like they stretched out the board
@@wal2 I know right! They could have put all those electronics on the footprint of a credit card!
Looks like someone tried to stretch a Lepai so they could make a few extra yuan! I'm sure the Lepai actually has better ratings!
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would that be alpine's little sister? alphina?? I'm your age now but I used to work at the flea market as a late teenager and I used to see all these off brands. it's amazing what marketing tricks they used to try
Sad to think Pyramid and Pyle were high end at the Flea’s
@@wal2 when I was 15 the pyramid 10 band EQ with 150 or 300 watts was the big thing. And then the 805 with the spectrum analyzer display came out with the green backlit display and of course I just had to have one. But one of my first real trunk mountain amp which is what we called them when they first came out I'm sure you recall was a pa6120 sanyo with the remote equalizer with the motorized fader. That was the s***. Darlington power packs baby. I've watched most of your videos and I've never seen you rate one of those.. and let's not confuse pile the brand they are now versus the speaker manufacturer they were in the first place. They made the best 6x9 known to man with the original silk dome tweeter. I was fortunate enough to have these in the late 80s but before that I had the best system around with my cricket 6x9s
I have a brand new in the box, tape never cut, DB aak 20,000.1 I’d like to even trade you for this. I will kindly ask you cover shipping though.
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Can't believe that they got away with it!
Wonder the excuses they used when people brought the amps back?
first thing i used to look at back in the day was the fuse......loved the knock off and chinese translation names 👍👍🤣
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I've never seen such a simple circuit board caveman made
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Me sitting at lunch: ....Ha, that's horrible!!!
The look I get from the people across from me is the same one I got when that back cover came off.
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great amp to learn how amps work... its a real life shcematic
Lmao!! Do it bump doe?😂🤣😂🤣
Ha ha dude really
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@@wal2 it can’t bump too funny dude why do people buy junk like this I’ll never know guess they believe the power output some people have no clue
I wish you would dyno radios
I’ve done some. Can do more
Do it bump doe?
It’s a chump, Joe
That’s crazy!
Hey Doug! Hope all is well brother!!
15 amp fuse gives it away common 150 rms 4 ohm maybe 200 rms at 2 ohm 😂😂😂😂 i was very optimistic. Dammm put a 5 amp fuse on that thing Jesus
People must learn wattage it's only part of the scenario. Over the years, I have found when it comes to all audio equipment, 70% of the equation is, how does it sound. Followed by the other factors. Wattage, specifications, warranty.
That slice of cheese in the midsection is fitting.
Yeah sup wif dat?
It's always some Korean American guy with a southern accent, lightly smoking a cigarette that sells you amps at the flea market. All his stuff happens to be good okay LOL
About what expected , honestly kinda cool looking Amp and box though
Too bad it was missing the manual!
that is a class b chip so your dyno probably stopped earlier than it should have. according to the datasheet it should be making 25w at 2ohm with 14.4v in and 0.5% thd. it is a 4ch chip but they running it in btl mode which i am not sure why they doing they could have easily got away with one chip powring all 4 speakers and made more profit it would have not made a tiny bit of difference to the value of this amp.
even headunits from the time had more power. like the early 2000 headunits made 10-15w per channel at 4ohm. after 2005s they stopped at 20w per channel at 4ohm and 40w at 2ohm before sony decided to use class d and make 50w at 4ohm and 80w+ at 2ohm from headunits. followed by pioneer only releasing two models with that same class d chip found in sony mex xb100bt , 120bt and the gs80.
while these manufactures have downgraded the class ab models. in 2010s they were using more advance and expensive chips. these days all use the same toshiba TCB502HQ and it can do 40w at 2ohm but the headunits don't seem to have enough heatsink and it gets very hot if you have the bass cranked up .
Your response is the first accurate post I have read in a long time. I have been in the electronics business for over 30 years. I'm retired now but I still build as a hobby. When reading commentary not only on audio equipment but other subjects it's so disappointing to see how ignorant our population has become. Considering everyone is walking around with a computer in their pocket. Access to the world, they still can't get things right? Getting Dumber as time goes on. I have to thank you for a logical comment.
That car stereo radio you dyno'd the other day had better power ratings
Sure did!
I just knew it would make Atleast 100rms. But 28? Someone knew they were bumpin! 🤣
Can't even go 15x10 on the fuse to assume power rating.
It's like that old Wendy's commercial where's the beef🤣
Yeah that clip was missed here
It's a big- power booster 😁
It’s a De-Amplifier
got em
Sho did
The chassi looks ok so you can put new better guts in it.
Prob a wall hanger
Alphina? 😅😅 so cool😅😅
I love these type of videos and idk why 😅
I’m surprised companies don’t do this nonsense anymore but I’m really glad we live in a time where knowledge is plentiful 🙏🏻
They know they can’t get by with this today. Great for the consumer. Just imagine wasting your entire weekly paycheck in this junk tho 😡
Your lucky that amp look dangerous 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣good video had blast I am lucky didn't choke with popcorn when you opened it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍
Looks like Matchbox race car track in there!
The text on the amp says "4 Channel = 1000 watts" LOL.......
They accidentally added an extra zero
@@wal2 HA, I'm sure it was an "accident" Big D..