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In this video, we're going to talk about why rumination fuels anxiety and OCD and how to stop the cycle.
Ruminations can be a normal part of thought process, but if they spiral out of control, they can lead to obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and even anxiety. In this video, we're going to discuss ways to stop the cycle of overthinking and ruminations, so you can feel and function more effectively.
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For information purposes only. Does not constitute clinical advice. Consult your local medical authority for advice. - บันเทิง
What thoughts do you have that just won't stop?
POCD and Harm OCD is typically what gets me ruminating the most but I try to remember this tool about being told ti get off the treadmill (rumination) and then asking well what do I do now? ANYTHING you want BESISES getting back on that treadmill. This reminds me that hey...I'm on this treadmill of rumination not going anywhere. I'm going to get off and continue with whatever it was I was doing.
I thought I had OCD, EVERYONE says I do.
Then I came to this channel to see others stories and how they handle things.
And the First post I read from your channel was someone wrote "i thought i had OCD, but then i came here and now i am doubting it".
I can't get this out of my head, That's me.
I have every symptom that I have heard mentioned.
Except I don't seem to only hate my OCD like alot of people do here.....
I also like parts of OCD.
(I have prevented a house fire twice by my "patrols").
This liking my OCD partially makes me wonder if I even have it because liking it seems abnormal.
But this doubt tends to be a symptom of OCD.
And around and around I go wondering if I even have it. And I know I will wonder for months.
And the circle continues.
Hi Nathan. How are you? Hope all is well. Let me introduce myself. I'm 52 years old and been battling with generalized anxiety disorder for over 20 years now. For the most part, it's been under control. I've seen a psychiatrist a couple of times and I told him that I've been also experiencing intrusive thoughts of self harm (suicide) which I'm totally against. I have no desire to act on it, but for some reason these fleeting thoughts come about and it's like I'm questioning do I actually have the intention at the moment.
It frightens me. My psychiatrist upon learning this , he diagnosed me not with OCD, BUT RATHER OCPD which I find it strange. I thought it would be OCD instead. Can you help. I'm on medication for my anxiety. 200mg of Zoloft, plus 2mg of aripiprazole for the most part, it's working except for these intrusive thoughts.
Can i ask or OCD its curable ?
Existential 😢/Death/ The unknown
We're all gonna make it brahs
🙂
We made it so far 😊
Zyzz ❤
I hope so
😢it doesn’t feel like it I swear.
I hope so, thank you I hope you do too.
I am ruminating about having anxiety. I’m anxious about being anxious. That sounds ridiculous. I hope I look on this comment in a year and be so happy that I’m out of this cycle.
You’ve just described me! I’m ruminating about ruminating! Anxious about being anxious! Have you found any relief?
Soo me!!! Anxious about being anxious. Depressed about being depressed! Ugh! Makes no sense!
Same, sadly. It’s horrific
Same same, thinking about what if I repeat my x's name endlessly like a madman in a perfectly healthy relationship, then logic myself why I won't and this cycle goes on lol it's just funny at this point I wanna die
Same here, it’s a thought process that is annoying for sure.
The main thing is realizing that you’re fine and thoughts are not actions.
What if your thoughts are ABOUT ACTIONS! There’s a chance I molested someone in my past, I think I did it but did I do it? Or is this just my ocd tricking me. How do you live with that when it goes against your entire belief system
We suffer more in imagination than we do in reality
@@izabelazivkov8455 I think it’s what he is saying: in the present, nothing is wrong. Your thought now are different from the actions in the past. Accept that it has happened and realise it is not happening now and hopefully you have gotten better as a person. That is the present moment. That should be your focus.
Without restraint they can lead to action.........over rumination has let to explosive anger in me.....pressure relief valve broke. Behavior uncharacteristic as I've always been referred to as the nice guy.
This resonates with me deeply.
"Thank you, brain, for bringing that up at midnight when im exhausted and extra sensitive to stress!" Haha! This is helpful. Thank you so much
I ruminate about what others might be saying about me behind my back and play out the dialogue they are saying about me
I’m literally going through a scary moment at the moment. I haven’t slept today yet but thank you. This is helping a lot. I need to sleep now lol
I hope everything is fine🙏
Oh god uh can i ask if you're feeling ok? i hope things gets better for you keep on watching mr.nate's video trust me they gonna enhance your treatment but please always prioritize your health first over everything, have a good day!
I'm literally sick of people saying literally.
@@ChangingTides777 situation awareness please, thanks.
I was an OCD sufferer. My OCD may get started when I was 12 years old. I might had many kinds of OCD. I cured my OCD by myself completly. Believe me its possible. I have recently started a TH-cam channel and I am going to shere my personal experience and tips on how you can cure it by yourself without taking anyone's help. I promise u that it will be helpful you u. So stay tune with my channel because many useful content is yet to come. ❤
“I bet you that the thing you’re ruminating over you have zero control over.” You are so right. This brings to my mind the Christian way of thinking that God is in control and we should learn to have faith.
@@Shito88-de2gx true lol
Amen 🙏
Amen
I can’t let go of the past hurts in my relationship.
I’m glad you mentioned simply ignoring the obsessions passively and not doing the compulsions to “fix” the obsessions. I find this helps a lot more.
Thanks Nathan. I've been struggling really bad with OCD and rumination on an intrusive thought I had about 2 weeks ago. Really scares me and has me questioning so much but your videos have really helped me. I think this is one of your best videos yet. I've noticed that I've probably had OCD my entire life - in good ways and in bad ways. But this has totally thrown me. Like I said - your videos have helped me so much. So thank you!
Idk who needs to hear this but the best thing you can do about ocd is “nothing”
I ruminate a lot about the fact that we're always thinking, and how the brain works. It freaks me out! haha. Also, when my anxiety is bothering me, I'll often times ruminate about Anxiety.. the causes, what the symptoms are, what I can do / not do to make it better, if I have other forms of it, etc. My therapist has told me that I "overthink things, and work myself up". I agree. haha.
Whooof , my brain was in pressure cooker.I can't explain how I feel now. Thank you for being an amazing therapist ❤
The negative thoughts and rituals create such a brutal cycle, often about things we have no control over. I always think to myself “what is within my control?” This was great, thank you for this video!
I constantly ruminate about bad stuff that happened when I was a teenager coming back to haunt me. It makes it really hard to move forward with my biggest passion, writing my novel and making a TH-cam channel. I constantly imagine the first time I post anything or publish anything some tell all hit piece coming out and ruining my life and reputation. It's been debilitating.
I can't stop ruminating about the mistakes I make at work. It's so hard for me to concentrate and I keep making dumb mistakes that make me so embarrassed. I just started this job and I already feel like a failure at it
Thank you so much for this! This is my number one compulsion!!!
You literally are amazing! I love your content and I want more of it!
Thank you Nathan, everything you says just calm my soul, as a person who suffered from ocd her whole entire life hearing this is so helping..
Nathan your videos are so good thank you for posting
Thank you so much sir, you've been of great help to me. I keep stressing about my upcoming exams, my responsibilities, my goals that I must fulfill and often worry that OCD might intervene my pursuit. It is often accompanied by anxiety, stress, demotivation. It keeps draining every bit of hope I have and tries to stop me from doing things I must be doing. To all my friends out there suffering from OCD, anxiety or anything. Do not worry you're not alone and we will beat this!
Your videos have helped me so much , thank you
No matter how bad the day is, your videos make me feel better
This is incredibly helpful! Thank you 🙏
Bro the editing improved so much keep it up 💪🏼
Thank you very much! I didn't even know what was happening to me and I came across your video on rummination and I dicovered that that was what had been torturing me for a long time. I'm much better now that began to follow your advice. All my love from Argentina ❤️
Thank you for making this content, you have helped me a lot.
Thank you bro I really needed this
You guys gotta stop thinking your crazy for obsessing over things like we do.
I have dealt with people who hear demons/people talking to them and who actually think they are a God.
OCD may be hard to deal with, even debilitating.
But your not crazy because of it.
thanks for the idea that ruminating can be or is a thought that we don't have control over. It relaxes my anxiety a little.
Thanks Nathan again you’ve helped me so much in my life. Thank god there are good people like you around.
The problem is the anxiety that comes with the thoughts is so overwhelming it’s hard not to push it away!!
Love this👏🏼
This was really helpful. I'm really grateful for your help🙏😇
Thanks for these videos 😊
Another great video 👍🏼
Man . . . You changed my life
You're amazing! Thanks for your continued support!
@@ocdandanxietyHello Sir plz iam from Pakistan 🇵🇰 .. 😢😢😢😢😢
@@ocdandanxietyI want to talk you personally 😢😢😢
@@ocdandanxietyCan you tell me is OCD 100% manage .. My thoughts is normal but when I see video of someone that says ocd is not manage -- My thoughts 💭 is increasing 😢
@PainduPets Just don't take any stress and let go. Distract yourself from such thoughts, practice meditation, and mindfulness. Whenever you get such thoughts, just respond by saying, "It's alright, I can manage it," or "Yeah, that'd be wonderful, ain't it". Just render the thoughts powerless and continue enjoying your life!
Great work sir 🛐
Thank you so much!
Just ran across this. I have such a hard time ruminating about work. I once counted how many times in 30 minutes I was doing this. Surprised how many times in a short amount of time I was doing this and not aware. One trick I now use is naming my brain, "Amy" (after the amygdala that causes a flight or fight response)
Giving thoughts (and my crazy brain) a name helps me bring the thoughts and feelings into the light. It also helps you control your brain and not have it control you.
If it gets too bad I will stop and focus on the colors around me. It helps ground me and bring me back to the preset time.
One of my big rumination topic is which job would be the right one. Having had lots of bad experiences in jobs and being raised where work was the most important thing in the world on one hand side and experienced being weaker in many different ways on the hand side makes it difficult. Having adhs and mcas and trd makes it even much more complicated. I feel trapped and doomed.
Thank you so much for helping. I want to change for all the people who care and love me! Thank you.
I needed this video. I was literally on my computer obsessively flipping through tabs and scrolling TH-cam when I stumbled across this. So glad I took the time to watch it rather than just save it to "watch later"
Keep watching, apply what he says, improve your life!
I cant explain how awesome you are, Nathan. Please never stop making videos on OCD - thank you so much!
Watching videos of this kind helps me. To hear it from someone that cares, and gives positive advice. Also hearing others speak about they're experiences, is a relief.
I have had pure o ocd/anxiety for 6 years. I can manage it now. Takes time and effort. Work on all areas, mind and body. Diet and fitness does help. Also exposure to everyday life.
I have now crippling obsessive thoughts. Always did but they have taken a more disturbing role.
I hope everyone out there suffering gets relief.
I feel like you and nocd have saved my life. I ruminate about the meaning of life and finding purpose, or if i should even search for purpose. Thank you, Nathan ❤
IMO the search for meaning/purpose is a worthless endeavor.
We are primates on a floating rock circling a ball of hot gas.
We should avoid hurting others.
Be true to ourselves.
Value those we love.
These should be your purpose, anything else is preferences.
Again IMO
@@eequalswtf6281 thank you. Unfortunately, it brings me immense anxiety thinking that way. That's why I obsess with it
@@ethanchadwick8584 believing God brings much hope. There is good reason to believe, but faith is also needed. When I was struggling once, I read Beth Moore’s book ‘Believing God’ and it really helped me. ❤ He also says ‘do not worry’.
@ethanchadwick8584 The pursuit of meaning can be a purpose in itself.
This saved me tonight.
I ruminate a lot. I'm gonna try this. Thank you!
Thank you 🙏
And there's something in your mind that's like "if you keep engaging in this thought loop, maybe something will come of it" insanity lol, same thing over and over expecting different results
Super helpful! I ruminate about everything or so it seems lol
Very informative video tq sir
I've learned to let the thoughts be. The challenge I have now is how to deal with what happens in my body as a result of these thoughts.
Same here, I get headaches, sweaty palms, fast heartbeat, and my tinnitus goes up a bit
Love this just so afraid of the what ifs
Thank bro
Thank you for the video. I have certain kinds of intrusive thoughts and patterns of rumination afterwards and I can’t find anything that regarding this specific issue. I have to remember anything or rather recall specific things (like “what did person x say ten minutes ago” “what are the last three thoughts I had” and so on). It’s frustrating because these intrusive thoughts can be triggered anywhere at anytime by myself or other people, situations and objects. I’m aware of the fact that these aren’t normal and are considered as intrusive thoughts, I also know that this whole issue wastes tons of time and energy. But I can’t find a good way to deal with them also due to good feeling and the gut feeling / connotation that I benefit from the things that I remember.
This.., You've helped me with this ruminating problem. Haven't applied yet,.. but I like your application. I retired, but I didn't want to, .... and found out...I DIDN'T HAVE TO!😢
IM constantly ruminating on the coulda shouda wouldas.!!.
I'm experiencing depression and anxiety.!! Horrible.
4 months of agony so far.
Can't get over my loss, and knowing it was myself at fault.
I always fall for the heart feelings even after 12 years! Anyone else?
May God bless you🥰
Thank you
You're welcome my friend!
Hey Nathan Peterson.
Thanks for your videos. 🙂
You're awesome....
May Almighty bless you guide you and keep you happy....
You are really awesome..
Your tips videos are really really effective..
Love form my heart friend.❤
This is my 3rd time watching this.... i need to learn this
Thanks your videos work I have severe ocd with intrusive thoughts rumination I always stop one thought to replace another one then the second thought become my ocd now I will try to not care about my rumination
Can’t believe I’m 68 and am finally finding out there are terms for what I’ve struggled with since I was about 10🤯
The editing got better! 😮
I tend to worry that if my anxiety gets out of control, it will lead to depression and then I will ultimately end my own life. I don’t know why my mind has to take it that far but I don’t like that thought train.
Whenever I have a automatic "oh no" type of thought, it's usually fear of the loop of ruminating. It's distracting. I almost sabotage myself at times when I notice I'm not ruminating. How rude is that?😅 Anyway, it reminded me of how the brain is with any fear, that it avoids it and says something is wrong and needs to be fixed or solved. So I loved all of the validation from this video to let me know that I'm on the right path. What I like to do is when an uninvited thought comes with its attempt to derail my thoughts off the tracks I wanted them on, I through a new set of tracks for that thought to go on. I mean, come on, how awesome is it that somehow I forget all sorts of things and yet without even trying, I get these automatic "reminders." I figure I would take the things I DO want to remember, or positive habits of thinking I do want and enter them in as the next step and destination of the intrusive thought. For example, I think of things I'm super grateful for and give thanks to God in that moment t. Often my heart will then soar with joy and what was negative e or annoying becomes a benefit rather than negative. I love it! And I am working on excepting and loving this process and as I do,sure enough those automatic things just do t happen near as often. Such a catch 22 huh? So use it to your advantage! Be creative. I love placing light and truth where there were fears and lies. With God all things are possible. As He said, " the truth will make you free." And the truth is that because of Christ, we have nothing to fear and everything will be made right one day. ❤
Glad i know i can stop it.....thanks.
I don't know where it came from but I now struggle to make conversation with people because I have this voice in my head saying "you don't know how to talk to people"
Now I believe it and I'm in need to shut it off!
I feel a bit of relief
Ur vedioes controlled my ocd
I ruminate about resentments toward people who have hurt me (mainly my family) -trying to explain to them how they come across and how it makes me feel, trying to get them to understand past mistakes I've made so they don't judge me, even though even I judge myself for those mistakes. I ruminate about guilt involving past mistakes.
For me limiting rumination was a result of thinking much more positively and use more empathy with humans. when the world was becoming less intimidating and my idealism for how to cope with it, was dwindling, I have could seen the "light" in a lot of new things
Even though it's been seven years I think about my ex almost every single day. I just miss her constantly. I understand that's never going to happen but the thoughts just keep coming especially when life's not going the way I want.
on a cruise and i’m stuck in an anxious loop seeking validation and friends. feels like i’m going crazy even though i’ve met so many great people and i should be having a happy vacation.
Have you ever looked at Dr. Michael Greenberg's approach to quitting rumination? Either way you think you could make a video regarding it?
I don’t know how to be kind to myself 😔 My therapist says that if I learn to be kind to myself my anxiety will improve 80%..I ruminate a lot about insomnia because I had a long period of time where I suffered severe insomnia, now because of a one nighter I keep thinking about what if insomnia comes back, and it came back…
How do we know if it’s us ruminating/thinking or the automatic racing thoughts from the anxiety /ocd
It is what it is
Thank you so much for sharing. How can I stop thinking about dr/dr? Please help me to overcome thiss 😢
But if I think about the worst possible scenario it makes me feel like if it does happen I won't be completely blindsided. Rumination about the past causes me much more stress because they are like flashbacks with thoughts and repeating phrases, (negative) that people said to me. I feel like if I don't hold on and keep thinking about it, I'll let my guard down and end up getting hurt and not believed again.
Hello,I just got this warm feeling when one of my friends (I get many intrusive thoughts about him,and which makes me feel wierd)I have HOCD,but now iam thinking iam just in denial,today he criticized me for something we rarely talk and when he was doing it after the thing I realized like my temperature went and I feel warm.it scared me alot so I came on the internet.its so weird,iam not sure that he caused me that cause I ahve no fan on and I feel that after mosquito bite.,l
Last night I didnt go to sleep till 5 am I was just laying there
Anyone else stuck ruminating about how they can't stop ruminating? Or ruminating about your ocd? Brains are dumb 😂
Hey Nathan Peterson if you are reading this comment I wanted to tell you that my ocd is somewhat LinkedIn with my phone 📱 cause whenever I do anything on my phone and anything that triggers my mind comes in recommendation on my phone or if I get a thought that I have done something wrong and some wrong thing is in my phone even if there is nothing but still ocd tricks me and this has made me so frustrated that I can't even use my phone and if I think that I have not done any thought or compulsion right in my phone. Then OCD will make me reset my phone again and again. Please please bring a video on this type of OCD and I also have every type of OCD.
And after righting this para my OCD is tricking me not to post it but I will post this 😢.
Can you do a video on ROCD?
Meditating can help. Watch the breath.
Brain is doing a poor job handling worst way possible on the “passing thought” good video mate
Thanks man, what are your thoughts on Retro active jealously? Would you qualify it as OCD?
Definitely man. It’s the constant intrusive thoughts.
Same thing as the last time I commented. Fears about death and decaying away into nothing
how to male this with ROCD thoughts, because the relationship is in my control ?
im scared and stressed a lot now
Is it possible that these suggestions of not reacting, allowing the thoughts or being ok with the thoughts are actually a solution and the brain starts seeing it as the solution therefore reducing anxiety? 😮
Listen i am continuely thinking about how i like someone and i shouldn't so i try to forget him but it friking hurts and your phenomena about thinking about your problem and accepting it
I cant do that cause thinking about him/her makes it even more realistic do what should i do
And if i dont move thoes feelings i might do something i would regret
My problem is, I feel that I DO have some control over something as long as I check it enough - for example, I have control over whether I make a mistake in my work by checking it - and checking, and checking and checking! I guess the answer is to complete the work to the best of my ability, and then, when I start ruminating on possible mistakes, use the 'maybe, maybe not' statements.
I feel you. And even after checking sometimes I make the mistake anyway.
I keep ruminating whenever I'm studying about different fictional events that will unlikely happen or people or certain events or videos I've seen, and they get repeated in my head for hours sometimes, once I had a fight with my mom and the fight scene kept getting repeated in my head for almost 3 hours. I hate it because it effects my studying and focus horribly and makes me anxious.
I have extreme fear of rabies and it triggered my usually bearable ocd to the point i cant function normally. Whenever I pass by something on the ground resembling a bat my brain tells me its a bat and that I have touched it and that I have rabies now. Sometimes I take a photo of potential triggers to be sure I wont ruminate later. The triggers are also becoming harder to bear everytime, for example 3 days ago it was night and I saw something small and dark on the ground and I didnt see it clearly but you guessed it, my brain says its a bat and that i touched it, creating a false memory and now i feel like i cant know what actually happened...I feel like Im going crazy
Where did you get your 'maybe, maybe not' neon sign? I would love to get one
I want one too! Sounds like my life!
Even if i ignore them, severity is so huge that i couldnt function, exposure didnt help with iracional thoughts, imagies, medicine was life saviour😊
BF and I missed out on 28 yrs together because I didn't know he liked me.
Now he is OBSESSED with missing my past 28 yrs and where I've been. EXTREME jelousy about my past, when it really pales in comparison to "the norm".
We have an amazing relationship, until ANYTHING from my past gets brought up.
It's heartbreaking.
We're on a break rn, and I am expecting nothing but for him to get help.
How do I get him past this?!
It's making me more and more insecure about everything I am or have been, instead of allowing us to grow.
I'm at such a loss!!!💔
I had been in a “situationship” for a good 5+ months. Started as “dating” and a month in she told me she wasn’t romantically interested but genuinely wanted to be friends. This led to long daily communication and messages. We had everything in common and shared all the same values. End of September she began rehearsing for a play and communication slowed immensely. Came and saw the play twice including closing night. She suggested we get together for a meet up day to catch up but ghosted me after the play. So that whole “situation” is what I ruminate over. Comes down to a lot of insecurities on my part. She also had issues of her own, but come on man! Oh good ole rumination.
That's not ruminating brother! She obviously isn't into you and you might be obsessed.
@@TaquitoDeAsada according to my therapist, it’s a combination of rocd and real event ocd. And my ruminations aren’t strictly based on the romantic side either.
Also, obsessed yes, hence obsessive compulsive disorder. The situation and how it makes me feel is the obsession and my ruminations are the compulsions. Sometimes referred to as pure o.
She's suggested a meet up and then ghosted. Given you a crumb of hope to follow then nothing. Happens all the time. Most people really into someone would feel just the same.
The minute someone you really want says no to you you need to cut them out for your own well being. If they want friendship - tough. Neither of you gets what you want, but you don't suffer as much.
And to be clear, we’d hung out as friends a few times already, so it wasn’t something new or unheard of. But regardless, gotta cut them out from the beginning for your own good. Lesson for next time I guess.