@@TheGameBench what's the name of the oil? I thought of lubing the fans on my Dell Inspiron 530 as I'm upgrading it (I haven't looked closely at them yet, but the oil can still be good to have around).
@@danielmazurvideos Well, I used this because it's what I had on hand and works well. However, if you don't, I'd suggest a good sewing machine oil. Something like this would be great. However, I would peel up the sticker on the back first as they might not serviceable. I know that the fans in the Optiplex aren't. www.amazon.com/Liberty-Oil-Synthetic-Lubricating-Machines/dp/B008QNQ2VE/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_rm?ac_md=4-3-c3ludGhldGljIHNld2luZyBtYWNoaW5lIG9pbA%3D%3D-ac_d_rm&cv_ct_cx=sewing+machine+oil&dchild=1&keywords=sewing+machine+oil&pd_rd_i=B008QNQ2VE&pd_rd_r=e281c971-103e-42a0-9502-80a14e6e2979&pd_rd_w=CREUG&pd_rd_wg=lIz9r&pf_rd_p=3d1a8341-be16-45b1-ae3d-ba8c533ec9f0&pf_rd_r=Y85CMFP9V85A4RMCDDJF&psc=1&qid=1599885019&sr=1-4-12d4272d-8adb-4121-8624-135149aa9081
I love how thorough you are with the seemingly simple stuff, I'm the same way with computer stuff so I get it. Keep up the good work and I hope you get way more subs and views so the hard work can actually start paying off!
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Very helpful video. I'm planning to buy a GTX 970 for my Dell Optiplex and I'm gonna clean it and stuff, whatever you showed on the video. Thanks in advance, as always.
@@TheGameBench I agree, and it matches perfectly with my core i7 without any bottlenecks! I would get the RX 470/570 but I'm afraid because to AMD crap drivers.
Dang... I wish I had someone like you around that I could just pay to properly check and clean my used parts PC I'm building. Basically I'm equal parts lazy and busy.
Great video -- very clear and helpful. But, you might want to include a note that booting into Safe Mode is different if you're still running Windows 7 (like me and my Optiplex 9010!).
That's fair. But I'd suggest moving to Windows 10. Especially if you're getting online with that system. You're going to leave yourself open to security exploits as time goes by without regular updates. Sort of like what happened with XP and Wannacry. And that's why I didn't really mention it.
Are you concerned about buying a used GPU because it might have been used for mining? Are you concerned you don't know what to do to test it or how to clean it and apply some fresh thermal paste? Maybe you bought one and it's got a fan that's making some bearing noise? Well, I got you. I go over all that in the video, and there are plenty of timestamps in the description, as always, to help you navigate. So, have you bought an ex-mining GPU? What were your experiences? Also, as @NunyaBusiness has reminded me, this is not something that you NEED to do. If your temps are fine, then you don't have to open the card up to replace the TIM. A simple cleaning would suffice.
I really wish I had the tools to go into component level diagnostics, beyond things like capacitors and resistors. Perhaps that's something I can get to in the future when I can justify buying the necessary equipment. In the meantime, I suggest you check out the Adamant IT channel. He goes into component repair and I really enjoy watching his videos.
@@TheGameBench The cool one I did see so far and the easy ones are vids like this one: th-cam.com/video/EP65185uGiA/w-d-xo.html and he had done more. This may give another idea.
I skimmed the video (this is a topic I already know plenty about) and didn't see testing thermals before and after. Just wanted to note that thermal paste does *NOT* always need to be reapplied. I have computers over 10 years old with heavy use through that span that still have more or less identical thermals to when new that are well below throttling temps. This only needs to be done if the original paste job was done poorly (unlikely if it's a used card several years old, it would've either been fixed or RMA'd by now) or if the card has been handled roughly and the PCB has flexed enough to break the connection between GPU die and heatsink. This can certainly happen in the mail especially if the packaging was inadequate, but test your thermals with HWInfo or similar to see if it's necessary. Anyone that's repaired stuff for long enough knows that any time you take something apart you run the risk of making things worse. All it takes is a heatsink slipping out of your hand or a screwdriver popping out of the screw head to knock a small component off the board or do other damage, so if it's working well, leave it alone, especially if you aren't a particularly delicate person in the first place.
This is an entirely fair, and very helpful criticism. You're exactly right. Had I not removed the heat sink, I could have left the paste alone. Thermals were inline with where they should be and the paste still good. It's just habit for me to do this, and I completely didn't think about that. Thanks for the well thought out comment.
@@TheGameBench Absolutely, you always need to repaste if removing a heatsink, especially if it's an OEM dried paste as that will not have the same thermal properties once the bond is broken. Nothing wrong with showing people how to do it, but it creates a subset of people that feel it *must* be done, which leads to spreading that mindset to less and less tech-minded people that will break their parts in the process when their things were fine as-is. I just wanted to keep people from going down a rabbit hole of doing more maintenance than necessary and thermal paste is a big one that people think needs to be replaced far more often than it really does, and usually it never needs it.
@@nunyabusiness896 thanks man, was gonna grab thermal paste just for this. I'll clean everything but that part. Just bought a used 1080ti and it came today.
Thanks! I'm glad someone it getting something of value from this video. And the game is Battlefront 2015. Specifically the survival mode, which can be single player or co-op. There's not a lot there, there are only six stages, but I found it to be A LOT of fun trying to beat my previous times in each of the difficulty settings. I still play it once in a while. The online multi-player is terrible though, unless you know who you're playing with. There's a lot of cheating.
@@TheGameBench Yeah, I am getting a lot of value out of a lot of your guides actually! Not just this one. My position is that I gave my son and daughter an Optiplex 3020 gaming PC 3/4 years ago but now they are starting to lag (Fortnite raised the minimum GPU spec, both devices had a 660Ti in them). I did my usual thing and put all the passmark and userbenchmark scores into a spreadsheet and did assessments and came to the conclusion that I need to upgrade them to last a year more, so that I can build 2 new custom PCs over the year to replace them. I was going to replace the i5-4570 and i5-4590 both with a i7-4590, and put GFX 1080 Ti's in them... but after watching your vids, I was happy I got the CPU right, but think I'm going to go with 1070's instead. After the year is out, these PC's will replace the PC's I have linked to the TVs downstairs! I'm also going to do the mod and put in a front case fan. :) Sorry, I did realise it was Star Wars Battlefront after watching more of your vids! Might have to get myself a copy, I was taken back by how real it looked to Empire Strikes Back! Glad to see you are still about - I did see you posting on your YT Community, I'll be there - I thank you again, and wish you all the best. 🙏
Pretty thorough, dude. Personally, I don't bother repasting most of my used cards. My opinion is if the temps are fine then don't bother. Also, I have bad luck with the little row of smd's that run parrallel next to the pci-e fingers. They're easy to knock off, so now and then buying used cards I get them like that. The cards will still work even when missing some of them, but it reduces your bandwidth. Like if you're missing just one, you won't get x16 and will be limited to x8. I think if its 3 missing, you're knocked down to x4. You can get all the way down x1 if missing enough of them.
Interesting. I've never had that happen to me before. I just always do this because I'm going to tear it down to make it look like new. Really deep clean. Generally, the cards I get are pretty dirty. Plus, the I can lube the fans too. And since I'm tearing it down, I have to repaste anyways. Though, I get it... it's not necessary. Just blowing out the dust is usually fine. I just like them to look as good as they perform, plus they sell better that way.
@@TheGameBench It depends, man. I will on occasion do it, but usually a good blow out will make it presentable enough. I don't sell the cards individually, so I'm not super worried about a little dust. But yes, watch for those little smd's. They're next to the pci-e fingers, so I think people knock them off while slotting the cards in. For something mid range like a 1060, x8 bandwidth is enough you won't notice a performance hit. I didn't know to look for this until I ran into a rx580 that gpu-z would only report as x8. It took a while for me to figure it out. For me this is a side thing. I'm not flipping a ton of pc's, but I have seen this 3 times in the last couple years. I returned these cards cause it just didn't feel right to use them.
I dont understand why sellers don't properly clean and dust their cards off. I would make sure whatever I was selling was in good squeaky clean condition with fresh thermal paste and I would put this in the description. The seller would probably get a good review.
I understand. They're lazy, they don't have time, they don't care or they don't know how to do it properly. This is what I do to everything I sell. I want it to look as good as I can, because they sell better and/or, for more. You'd think they'd want to on that basis alone.
I had never used DDU before. I was noticing that I didn't have the performance I'd expected, so I gave this a go. Maybe I did something else I'm not aware of, but I got an insane boost to my performance.
Recently bought a rx480 from a guy who said it crashes sometimes in games for not a lot of money. Upon inspection I found it was missing the 4 screws to the heatsink. I’m thinking the lack of mounting pressure is the cause of the crashes. I cleaned the old gross thermal paste and replaced with some thermal grizzly. Need to test card after assembly. Haven’t had the time to remove the drivers from my pc and install this card for testing.
or you could ask the seller to do all these, an oem rx 580 I bought came cleaned with new thermal pads and fresh thermal paste and the bios fixed, basically plug and play and it was only about 10$ more expensive than other dirtier options
That's certainly not typical and I can assure that most aren't going to take the time or want to take the time. Of course, you can always ask, but the vast majority won't. Especially if it's just an individual. I'm one of those sellers where you don't have to ask. I've bought so much used stuff, and 90% of the time, it looks like this.
Thank you for actual useful information. When I upgrade my machine I will be following your procedure exactly. So here's a real dilemma, which GPU would you go for, RX 5600XT or an RTX 2060Ti or a GTX 1070Ti? They're all pretty much the same price and they will be installed in a PCIX3 based machine. I don't have a problem with second hand, I just consider that the device has had an extended burn in. I play almost exclusively RPG (RDR2, Elite Dangerous, Forza H4, Outer Worlds ect.). Keep up the great work, I love Linus and Jay for fun but I'm an impoverished gamer and I really appreciate your calm OCD delivery. Thanks and hang in there.
Honestly, they're all on par with each other. Assuming that you're talking about the 2060 and not the 2060 Super. There's no 2060 Ti. I'm all about used price to performance with these builds, but if the 1070 Ti isn't much less than the 2060 or 5600XT, I would go with the newer card.
Yep, I know. I did that in the past and had times where Windows Update would just do it's thing anyways. I've just found it's easier, and fool proof, to disconnect it from the internet. On my personal systems, I just disable driver updates via the group policy... but that's not an option for people with Home, only Pro.
I didn't know the best place to post this question. With the shortage of PSU would you ever reccomend using an Optiplex PSU in a more modern system? I would components with a lower power consumption, a Ryzen 5 1600sf with a B450 motherboard and a GTX 1650.
Not really. While the x90 and xx10 models are the standard 24-pin, any B450 you're looking at would have to only have a 4-pin CPU power, and all the one's worth buying have 8-pin CPU power connectors. So, all that being said, I'd suggest to take a look at the Corsair CXm power supplies. You can find them used on eBay for reasonable prices, considering the shortage of new ones, and I'd trust them even of something the the EVGA and ThermalTake 80+ white units that people love to put in these.
@@TheGameBench Apparently no one uses it anymore and it's severely outdated. Also that it's extremely dangerous (which I agree it's not for newer overclockers, but still...) In my pinned comment I address all of this stuff even showing an example where Linus used it to test a brand new card literally a day after I posted the vid. Regardless, It's not like I was suggesting anyone use it or anything. It was simply used in the context of a passing joke. I think they were looking for any excuse to nitpick since I was criticizing OCing so whatever. I deleted those ones since it's technically misinformation at that point lmao
Yep, the only problem that arises with mining is when people don't what they're doing. Failures are generally do to lack of cooling or poor power. But that can happen in a gaming scenario too.
@@TheGameBench exactly. I have absolutely no problem with using a GPU that was used for mining, given that the miner knew what he/she was doing. I've seen GPUs that were in perfect condition (apart from some normal dirt/dust on it from being used) and some that made me wonder how they could possibly run them at such terrible temperatures that the poor memory modules looked crooked and the PCB itself was showing terrible signs of degradation.
Hey nice video, I recently bought a dell optiplex 3010 with i5 3470, 8gb of ram and 500hdd for around $100, now Im planning to change a psu and add a asus dual 1060 6gb graphics card, it can actually fit inside the case without having to remove the hdd cage.. and I was wondering will it work fine in this system and about temperatures what do you think Im not planning to overclock anything I just want a decent gpu temps :D my cpu is running around 30-35 degrees in idle I think thats good.
Yeah, the CPU's that come in these don't consume a lot of power and they're easy to cool. As for the GPU... it really depends on the cooler. The 1060 is a pretty conservative card as far as power consumption. I've used single fan models that were fine without an intake fan, but it also depends on your ambient temperature. All I can recommend you do is pop it in, fire up a game, and keep an eye on your temps. If your temps are an issue, you can add a fan without removing the HDD cage. Just use something like an 80mm, maybe 92mm, fan above the HDD cage. It won't be the prettiest, but it will give you a little more airflow.
In the 7010, you have a couple of obstacles. The first is SATA ports and the USB3 port. Any GPU over 8.5 inches will hit the SATA ports. Now, you can solve that with low profile cables. So, if you get low profile cables and don't want to remove the HDD cage, it's around 9.5 inches. Maybe longer, maybe shorter. It can vary depending on the GPU. I will say one thing about trying to fit a longer GPU in without removing the HDD cage... be careful. You'll have to go in at an angle and the I/O bracket on the GPU could hit the motherboard and damage it. So, just keep an eye on that.
Hey I’ve asked you a bunch of questions about this and since I’m still waiting for my psu I have another question for you.Will a large card cover the sata ports or anything else when installed in a optiplex 9010. Thanks in advance
@@christojolly6506 Yes. Just keep in mind that right and left angle connectors are not always low enough to clear. Some are taller than others. The only sure cables I can suggest are the Silverstone low profile cables.
@@TheGameBench So it's certain I'll need to buy silverstone low profile cables for the red devil rx 580 for the optiplex 9010 or will i be fine with the cables that come with it
@@christojolly6506 With the Red Devil 580, you will need either the Silverstone low profile cables or some low profile right/left angle cables. You'll also need a low profile USB3 cable. The cables that come with the 9010 definitely won't fit.
@@theultimategamerandhacker The adapter will have no effect on performance with a 1650 Super. You won't need anything else besides the SATA to PCIe 8-pin adapter, unless you don't have any open SATA connectors, in which case, you'd need a SATA splitter.
Hmm... at 9.7" it's right on the edge, it's possible to be able to shoe horn it in there without removing the drive cage. If you have an x90 or an xx10 model you will need low profile SATA cables, and with the xx10 a low profile USB3 cable as well. If you do this BE CAREFUL as it's easy to hit the motherboard with the I/O plate on the GPU and there are traces on the motherboard right there. Since you're going to have to go at an angle you've just got to be careful not to damage those traces.
I have an issue with an Optiplex 7010 with i5-3570 and BIOS A29. It simply does not want to start with a Radeon HD 7850. The PSU is upgrades to Corsair CX 450. Have been googling and reading for hours, trying Settings in BIOS, without succes. Do you have any idea on the root cause pls?
Well, the 7850 won't work in UEFI mode unless you flash it with a UEFI BIOS. I would guess that's you're problem. You could switch to legacy to see if you get video output from the card.
Hello I really need your advice here!! Do you think I should a gtx 1660 super with an i7 3770? My goal is game on 1080p , med-high settings without having to upgrade any components for 3 years
@@johnehab5579 Sorry for the slow reply. With the 1660 Super, you'll have no problem exceeding 60 FPS with the 3770. The 1660 Super is on par with the 1070. This also means that the 3770 will be a bottleneck in certain scenarios for the 1660 Super. Games like Far Cry 5 will be held back by the 3770 due to lower clocks and IPC. You'll still be able to get 60 FPS though.
You can put the 1660 Super in either. With the 7010, I would highly suggest replacing the power supply. With the 7020, you're good to go on the stock power supply.
I applied a bad overclock on a hd5670 it works but everytime I go to login the screen glitches and freezes I already uninstalled msi afterburner to get rid of the settings but it still crashes
@@datamedicpr Well, I had the issue with one GPU, and what seemed to end up fixing it was deleting all the UEFI boot devices and applying, then exiting the BIOS. You could also check in the video section and make sure it's set to auto, or see if the GPU is even being detected in the BIOS. Perhaps try resetting the BIOS via the jumper.
Sure, here's one. I use this stuff all the time in these. You can even toss them an offer for a little less. www.ebay.com/itm/SK-Hynix-8GB-4GBx2-1Rx8-HMT451U6AFR8C-PB-PC3-12800U-1600MHz-DDR3-RAM-1314-1313/254596240225?epid=662282475&hash=item3b471e5361:g:VO0AAOSwOX9evJqW
The Game Bench Thank you very much for the link. I looked at it and felt like 16gb would be a bit better so would this kit work: 8GB SK hynix 1600MHz 2Rx8 PC3L-12800U-11-13-B1 DDR3 Desktop PC Memory/RAM. Condition is Used. Thanks again
I need help.I've bought a used rx 580 and i'm going to put it into a optiplex 9010 with a 500w psu but i've seen people say that i need uefi.Someone please help.
hi i’m commenting on this video as it has less comments, giving you a greater chance to reply. i have a dell optiplex 760 however i think it’s to old to upgrade. i want to buy a new optiplex and add a gpu, and try fit it with a good cpu, could you please recommend anything? edit**** i’m not good with chipsets and stuff but could you please help
I'd agree that the 760 isn't viable for modern gaming, but they make great retro gaming systems. My recommendation is typically the 7020 or 9020 with at least an i5, preferably an i7 as they are 4th gen Core series CPUs and are still relevant for modern gaming. Right now prices are pretty volatile for the OptiPlex systems and I've seen people buy the i5 systems for up to $180, which is absurd. I can't suggest paying more than $140 for one, and it better have 8GB of RAM and 500GB at last. Now, you might be able to find one for a reasonable price, I still do from time to time, but not often. I've pivoted to looking for i7 systems since you can find them for as little as $200 to $250 and that's well worth the upcharge. Don't consider that higher end unless it has at least 16GB of RAM and a 1 to 2TB HDD. Some alternatives I can suggest are the Dell Precision T1700. They can be found with the same CPUs and the can also be found with a 365 watt power supply with a 6-pin PCIe power connection. I bought one recently for under $200 with an i7 4790, 16GB of RAM and no HDD. They're essentially the same system. You could also go for the 7010, 9010, Precision T1650 with a 3770, though prices for those is on the rise. Then there's the HP 600/800 G1 systems that are a decent alternative as well, but I' haven't checked on prices on those lately. I would avoid the 3rd gen i5's. As for GPU, with the 4th gen i5, I can't really suggest more than the 1060 6GB, which can run on the stock 290 watt power supply. The 570 or 580 are decent options but will require a better PSU. If it's an i7 3770, 4770, or 4790... the 1070 or 1080 are good options and will require a PSU replacement. Sorry for the book or a response. It's just a super open ended question.
As soon as you see the Dell boot logo start pressing F2 until you get into the BIOS. Once the BIOS is up you'll see a general section on the left. Open then and then go to boot sequence. You then see, in the middle, the option for UEFI or legacy boot. Select UEFI and apply and exit. Now, if you already have Windows installed you will need to reinstall Windows in UEFI mode or the system will not be able to boot from the drive.
@@christojolly6506 Besides installing to a different drive, no. If the BIOS is set to UEFI there's no way for it to boot from a drive that was installed as MBR, which is legacy.
Also, I saw your other question about putting the 580 on the stock power supply.... definitely not. You'd want to get a higher wattage power supply for sure.
Hey I know this is a bit of a weird question but would different optiplex motherboards be compatible with each other.like would a 7010 motherboard be compatible with a 9010 with i7-3770 and rx 580 thanks
Well, the 7010 and 9010 are pretty much the same. The only difference I can find is that the 9010 has vPro and the 7010 does not. Same for the 7020 vs 9020. Regardless, the 3770 will run in any xx10 model.
The Game Bench thanks for the quick reply as I’m trying to get the cheapest one possible since I’m pretty sure my motherboard broke after a installing a faulty psu.ive tried a bunch of troubleshooting but I can’t seem to get it work and now on the last resort :buying a new one.also I’m guessing the 3010 is gonna be the cheapest will the be fine
@@christojolly6506 I would avoid the 3010. It's missing a lot of features of the 7010/9010. It only has SATA 2, USB 2, PCIe 2, and a max of 16GB with only two RAM slots.
i bought an used rx 570 after saving year, the seller said it looks new and good condition, when the gpu came, it has corrosion everywhere, i want to kill my self
This is the most complete guide to properly swapping and taking care of used GPU's. Cheers, keep up the good work and stay safe!
Thanks! You too.
Agreed.
@@TheGameBench what's the name of the oil? I thought of lubing the fans on my Dell Inspiron 530 as I'm upgrading it (I haven't looked closely at them yet, but the oil can still be good to have around).
@@danielmazurvideos Well, I used this because it's what I had on hand and works well. However, if you don't, I'd suggest a good sewing machine oil. Something like this would be great. However, I would peel up the sticker on the back first as they might not serviceable. I know that the fans in the Optiplex aren't.
www.amazon.com/Liberty-Oil-Synthetic-Lubricating-Machines/dp/B008QNQ2VE/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_rm?ac_md=4-3-c3ludGhldGljIHNld2luZyBtYWNoaW5lIG9pbA%3D%3D-ac_d_rm&cv_ct_cx=sewing+machine+oil&dchild=1&keywords=sewing+machine+oil&pd_rd_i=B008QNQ2VE&pd_rd_r=e281c971-103e-42a0-9502-80a14e6e2979&pd_rd_w=CREUG&pd_rd_wg=lIz9r&pf_rd_p=3d1a8341-be16-45b1-ae3d-ba8c533ec9f0&pf_rd_r=Y85CMFP9V85A4RMCDDJF&psc=1&qid=1599885019&sr=1-4-12d4272d-8adb-4121-8624-135149aa9081
I love how thorough you are with the seemingly simple stuff, I'm the same way with computer stuff so I get it. Keep up the good work and I hope you get way more subs and views so the hard work can actually start paying off!
Great video! Haven't heard any youtubers talk about oiling the fans. Guess I learned something new today. Keep up the great work!
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Very helpful video. I'm planning to buy a GTX 970 for my Dell Optiplex and I'm gonna clean it and stuff, whatever you showed on the video. Thanks in advance, as always.
Awesome! The 970's still a great 1080p card.
@@TheGameBench I agree, and it matches perfectly with my core i7 without any bottlenecks! I would get the RX 470/570 but I'm afraid because to AMD crap drivers.
You provide the most useful information on the net. Thanks for doing this.
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic work as always! Bought a Used GPU and it was fantastic!
The production value of your videos is SO GOOD.
Dang... I wish I had someone like you around that I could just pay to properly check and clean my used parts PC I'm building. Basically I'm equal parts lazy and busy.
Great video -- very clear and helpful. But, you might want to include a note that booting into Safe Mode is different if you're still running Windows 7 (like me and my Optiplex 9010!).
That's fair. But I'd suggest moving to Windows 10. Especially if you're getting online with that system. You're going to leave yourself open to security exploits as time goes by without regular updates. Sort of like what happened with XP and Wannacry. And that's why I didn't really mention it.
Are you concerned about buying a used GPU because it might have been used for mining? Are you concerned you don't know what to do to test it or how to clean it and apply some fresh thermal paste? Maybe you bought one and it's got a fan that's making some bearing noise? Well, I got you. I go over all that in the video, and there are plenty of timestamps in the description, as always, to help you navigate. So, have you bought an ex-mining GPU? What were your experiences? Also, as @NunyaBusiness has reminded me, this is not something that you NEED to do. If your temps are fine, then you don't have to open the card up to replace the TIM. A simple cleaning would suffice.
Thanks for the video. I just switched from an RX 580 to a GTX 1080Ti and you gave me all the information I needed.
Glad I could help!
Me tooo.
Let me tell a joke, the GT 210.
Seriously I was waiting for this one
Just found your videos - I really like your delivery and explanations - thank you
Thanks for watching!
Man I was waiting to see if you would test some of the conductors and other parts to see which one is bad or not. Make it in the next video!
I really wish I had the tools to go into component level diagnostics, beyond things like capacitors and resistors. Perhaps that's something I can get to in the future when I can justify buying the necessary equipment. In the meantime, I suggest you check out the Adamant IT channel. He goes into component repair and I really enjoy watching his videos.
@@TheGameBench Yeahh get those tools! We'll be waiting! :D
@@TheGameBench I'll go check out the channel too! Thanks
@@TheGameBench The cool one I did see so far and the easy ones are vids like this one: th-cam.com/video/EP65185uGiA/w-d-xo.html and he had done more. This may give another idea.
I skimmed the video (this is a topic I already know plenty about) and didn't see testing thermals before and after. Just wanted to note that thermal paste does *NOT* always need to be reapplied. I have computers over 10 years old with heavy use through that span that still have more or less identical thermals to when new that are well below throttling temps. This only needs to be done if the original paste job was done poorly (unlikely if it's a used card several years old, it would've either been fixed or RMA'd by now) or if the card has been handled roughly and the PCB has flexed enough to break the connection between GPU die and heatsink. This can certainly happen in the mail especially if the packaging was inadequate, but test your thermals with HWInfo or similar to see if it's necessary. Anyone that's repaired stuff for long enough knows that any time you take something apart you run the risk of making things worse. All it takes is a heatsink slipping out of your hand or a screwdriver popping out of the screw head to knock a small component off the board or do other damage, so if it's working well, leave it alone, especially if you aren't a particularly delicate person in the first place.
This is an entirely fair, and very helpful criticism. You're exactly right. Had I not removed the heat sink, I could have left the paste alone. Thermals were inline with where they should be and the paste still good. It's just habit for me to do this, and I completely didn't think about that. Thanks for the well thought out comment.
@@TheGameBench Absolutely, you always need to repaste if removing a heatsink, especially if it's an OEM dried paste as that will not have the same thermal properties once the bond is broken.
Nothing wrong with showing people how to do it, but it creates a subset of people that feel it *must* be done, which leads to spreading that mindset to less and less tech-minded people that will break their parts in the process when their things were fine as-is. I just wanted to keep people from going down a rabbit hole of doing more maintenance than necessary and thermal paste is a big one that people think needs to be replaced far more often than it really does, and usually it never needs it.
@@nunyabusiness896 thanks man, was gonna grab thermal paste just for this. I'll clean everything but that part. Just bought a used 1080ti and it came today.
Hi The Game Bench, I just subscribed and liked the video ,since you were very precise and informative.
Thanks for the sub. I really appreciate it.
Good job as always
Thanks!
My goodness, what an awesome guide. Than you so much. Plus that Star Wars game at @5:23 looks amazing, what is it?!!
Thanks! I'm glad someone it getting something of value from this video. And the game is Battlefront 2015. Specifically the survival mode, which can be single player or co-op. There's not a lot there, there are only six stages, but I found it to be A LOT of fun trying to beat my previous times in each of the difficulty settings. I still play it once in a while. The online multi-player is terrible though, unless you know who you're playing with. There's a lot of cheating.
@@TheGameBench Yeah, I am getting a lot of value out of a lot of your guides actually! Not just this one. My position is that I gave my son and daughter an Optiplex 3020 gaming PC 3/4 years ago but now they are starting to lag (Fortnite raised the minimum GPU spec, both devices had a 660Ti in them). I did my usual thing and put all the passmark and userbenchmark scores into a spreadsheet and did assessments and came to the conclusion that I need to upgrade them to last a year more, so that I can build 2 new custom PCs over the year to replace them. I was going to replace the i5-4570 and i5-4590 both with a i7-4590, and put GFX 1080 Ti's in them... but after watching your vids, I was happy I got the CPU right, but think I'm going to go with 1070's instead. After the year is out, these PC's will replace the PC's I have linked to the TVs downstairs! I'm also going to do the mod and put in a front case fan. :)
Sorry, I did realise it was Star Wars Battlefront after watching more of your vids! Might have to get myself a copy, I was taken back by how real it looked to Empire Strikes Back!
Glad to see you are still about - I did see you posting on your YT Community, I'll be there - I thank you again, and wish you all the best. 🙏
This is very helpful to people mate, respect.
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful.
Pretty thorough, dude. Personally, I don't bother repasting most of my used cards. My opinion is if the temps are fine then don't bother. Also, I have bad luck with the little row of smd's that run parrallel next to the pci-e fingers. They're easy to knock off, so now and then buying used cards I get them like that. The cards will still work even when missing some of them, but it reduces your bandwidth. Like if you're missing just one, you won't get x16 and will be limited to x8. I think if its 3 missing, you're knocked down to x4. You can get all the way down x1 if missing enough of them.
Interesting. I've never had that happen to me before. I just always do this because I'm going to tear it down to make it look like new. Really deep clean. Generally, the cards I get are pretty dirty. Plus, the I can lube the fans too. And since I'm tearing it down, I have to repaste anyways. Though, I get it... it's not necessary. Just blowing out the dust is usually fine. I just like them to look as good as they perform, plus they sell better that way.
@@TheGameBench It depends, man. I will on occasion do it, but usually a good blow out will make it presentable enough. I don't sell the cards individually, so I'm not super worried about a little dust. But yes, watch for those little smd's. They're next to the pci-e fingers, so I think people knock them off while slotting the cards in. For something mid range like a 1060, x8 bandwidth is enough you won't notice a performance hit. I didn't know to look for this until I ran into a rx580 that gpu-z would only report as x8. It took a while for me to figure it out. For me this is a side thing. I'm not flipping a ton of pc's, but I have seen this 3 times in the last couple years. I returned these cards cause it just didn't feel right to use them.
I dont understand why sellers don't properly clean and dust their cards off. I would make sure whatever I was selling was in good squeaky clean condition with fresh thermal paste and I would put this in the description. The seller would probably get a good review.
I understand. They're lazy, they don't have time, they don't care or they don't know how to do it properly. This is what I do to everything I sell. I want it to look as good as I can, because they sell better and/or, for more. You'd think they'd want to on that basis alone.
Love Your Video's Keep Up The Good Work 🙂
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I had never used DDU before. I was noticing that I didn't have the performance I'd expected, so I gave this a go. Maybe I did something else I'm not aware of, but I got an insane boost to my performance.
Just waiting on the flashing on those 470's
That was pretty helpful.
Recently bought a rx480 from a guy who said it crashes sometimes in games for not a lot of money. Upon inspection I found it was missing the 4 screws to the heatsink. I’m thinking the lack of mounting pressure is the cause of the crashes. I cleaned the old gross thermal paste and replaced with some thermal grizzly. Need to test card after assembly. Haven’t had the time to remove the drivers from my pc and install this card for testing.
or you could ask the seller to do all these, an oem rx 580 I bought came cleaned with new thermal pads and fresh thermal paste and the bios fixed, basically plug and play and it was only about 10$ more expensive than other dirtier options
That's certainly not typical and I can assure that most aren't going to take the time or want to take the time. Of course, you can always ask, but the vast majority won't. Especially if it's just an individual. I'm one of those sellers where you don't have to ask. I've bought so much used stuff, and 90% of the time, it looks like this.
Expect the views on this video to go off the charts if ether mining will ever die
In an ideal world everyone would do this every once in a while, before selling and after buying a new GPU
Thank you for actual useful information. When I upgrade my machine I will be following your procedure exactly. So here's a real dilemma, which GPU would you go for, RX 5600XT or an RTX 2060Ti or a GTX 1070Ti? They're all pretty much the same price and they will be installed in a PCIX3 based machine. I don't have a problem with second hand, I just consider that the device has had an extended burn in. I play almost exclusively RPG (RDR2, Elite Dangerous, Forza H4, Outer Worlds ect.). Keep up the great work, I love Linus and Jay for fun but I'm an impoverished gamer and I really appreciate your calm OCD delivery. Thanks and hang in there.
Honestly, they're all on par with each other. Assuming that you're talking about the 2060 and not the 2060 Super. There's no 2060 Ti. I'm all about used price to performance with these builds, but if the 1070 Ti isn't much less than the 2060 or 5600XT, I would go with the newer card.
Not a type of beer? Awwww... Why can't we refurbish our GPUs and our stomachs at the same time?
Great video! Watched all of it. Is your favorite color purple by chance ?
Thanks! And no, I like purple, but I wouldn't call it my favorite color. Just digging it right now.
used tampons also works great
With DDU you can choose to have it prevent Windows from automatically installing updated drivers. Under Settings.
Yep, I know. I did that in the past and had times where Windows Update would just do it's thing anyways. I've just found it's easier, and fool proof, to disconnect it from the internet. On my personal systems, I just disable driver updates via the group policy... but that's not an option for people with Home, only Pro.
DDU link is incorrect. But I still liked and subscribed!
Thanks for the sub, and thanks for the heads up. Link is fixed.
I didn't know the best place to post this question. With the shortage of PSU would you ever reccomend using an Optiplex PSU in a more modern system? I would components with a lower power consumption, a Ryzen 5 1600sf with a B450 motherboard and a GTX 1650.
Not really. While the x90 and xx10 models are the standard 24-pin, any B450 you're looking at would have to only have a 4-pin CPU power, and all the one's worth buying have 8-pin CPU power connectors.
So, all that being said, I'd suggest to take a look at the Corsair CXm power supplies. You can find them used on eBay for reasonable prices, considering the shortage of new ones, and I'd trust them even of something the the EVGA and ThermalTake 80+ white units that people love to put in these.
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I got a TON of gruff for so much as mentioning Furmark in my Overclocking video and I'm surprised you aren't getting the same.
Really? What the hell were they complaining about?
@@TheGameBench Apparently no one uses it anymore and it's severely outdated. Also that it's extremely dangerous (which I agree it's not for newer overclockers, but still...)
In my pinned comment I address all of this stuff even showing an example where Linus used it to test a brand new card literally a day after I posted the vid. Regardless, It's not like I was suggesting anyone use it or anything. It was simply used in the context of a passing joke.
I think they were looking for any excuse to nitpick since I was criticizing OCing so whatever. I deleted those ones since it's technically misinformation at that point lmao
@@chintzypc5508 I still use it as it is a great tool for burning in and and testing used gpu's
When I built my PC , and booted it up. It says something about pressing Y or N I pressed Y and now it's blank and I don't know what to do
Step one... try clearing the CMOS. Do you know how to do that?
Fun fact: mining GPUs are less stressed and abused than gaming GPUs, because the mining algorithm doesn't need that much graphics power as games do.
Yep, the only problem that arises with mining is when people don't what they're doing. Failures are generally do to lack of cooling or poor power. But that can happen in a gaming scenario too.
@@TheGameBench exactly. I have absolutely no problem with using a GPU that was used for mining, given that the miner knew what he/she was doing. I've seen GPUs that were in perfect condition (apart from some normal dirt/dust on it from being used) and some that made me wonder how they could possibly run them at such terrible temperatures that the poor memory modules looked crooked and the PCB itself was showing terrible signs of degradation.
Hey nice video, I recently bought a dell optiplex 3010 with i5 3470, 8gb of ram and 500hdd for around $100, now Im planning to change a psu and add a asus dual 1060 6gb graphics card, it can actually fit inside the case without having to remove the hdd cage.. and I was wondering will it work fine in this system and about temperatures what do you think Im not planning to overclock anything I just want a decent gpu temps :D my cpu is running around 30-35 degrees in idle I think thats good.
Yeah, the CPU's that come in these don't consume a lot of power and they're easy to cool. As for the GPU... it really depends on the cooler. The 1060 is a pretty conservative card as far as power consumption. I've used single fan models that were fine without an intake fan, but it also depends on your ambient temperature. All I can recommend you do is pop it in, fire up a game, and keep an eye on your temps. If your temps are an issue, you can add a fan without removing the HDD cage. Just use something like an 80mm, maybe 92mm, fan above the HDD cage. It won't be the prettiest, but it will give you a little more airflow.
what is the best gpu to buy from aliexpress for my optiplex 9020 i7 4790??
if i'm coming from integrated graphics do i still have to scrub the drivers?
I still do, but I've honestly no had problems with the iGPU drivers causing issues.
What is max length gpu that will fit in optiplex 7010 MT? I’d rather not do any drilling inside the case. Just the default setup. Thanks!
In the 7010, you have a couple of obstacles. The first is SATA ports and the USB3 port. Any GPU over 8.5 inches will hit the SATA ports. Now, you can solve that with low profile cables. So, if you get low profile cables and don't want to remove the HDD cage, it's around 9.5 inches. Maybe longer, maybe shorter. It can vary depending on the GPU. I will say one thing about trying to fit a longer GPU in without removing the HDD cage... be careful. You'll have to go in at an angle and the I/O bracket on the GPU could hit the motherboard and damage it. So, just keep an eye on that.
The Game Bench Thanks so much for the info! And I’ll be very careful when inserting it gpu not to scratch the motherboard!
Hey I’ve asked you a bunch of questions about this and since I’m still waiting for my psu I have another question for you.Will a large card cover the sata ports or anything else when installed in a optiplex 9010. Thanks in advance
Yep, anything over 8.5 inches will hit the SATA ports. I actually did a recent community post about this that will show you everything you need.
The Game Bench perfect so it’ll be necessary to buy the right angle sata connectors
@@christojolly6506 Yes. Just keep in mind that right and left angle connectors are not always low enough to clear. Some are taller than others. The only sure cables I can suggest are the Silverstone low profile cables.
@@TheGameBench So it's certain I'll need to buy silverstone low profile cables for the red devil rx 580 for the optiplex 9010 or will i be fine with the cables that come with it
@@christojolly6506 With the Red Devil 580, you will need either the Silverstone low profile cables or some low profile right/left angle cables. You'll also need a low profile USB3 cable. The cables that come with the 9010 definitely won't fit.
Can I put a gtx 1650 super without changing the power supply on the dell optiplex 7010?
Yeah, the 1650 Super will consume under 100 watts. Perfectly safe on the stock 275 watt unit with a SATA to PCIe power adapter.
@@TheGameBench does that make it slower and do I have to buy a cable converter?
@@theultimategamerandhacker The adapter will have no effect on performance with a 1650 Super. You won't need anything else besides the SATA to PCIe 8-pin adapter, unless you don't have any open SATA connectors, in which case, you'd need a SATA splitter.
Can a 10 inch long gpu fit in an Optiplex without modding the case? 9.7 to be specific
Hmm... at 9.7" it's right on the edge, it's possible to be able to shoe horn it in there without removing the drive cage. If you have an x90 or an xx10 model you will need low profile SATA cables, and with the xx10 a low profile USB3 cable as well. If you do this BE CAREFUL as it's easy to hit the motherboard with the I/O plate on the GPU and there are traces on the motherboard right there. Since you're going to have to go at an angle you've just got to be careful not to damage those traces.
The Game Bench ok, noted. Thanks for the reply!
@@ryanmiller4646 No problem.
I have an issue with an Optiplex 7010 with i5-3570 and BIOS A29. It simply does not want to start with a Radeon HD 7850. The PSU is upgrades to Corsair CX 450. Have been googling and reading for hours, trying Settings in BIOS, without succes. Do you have any idea on the root cause pls?
Do you have your boot mode set as UEFI?
The Game Bench Yes, its set as UEFI.
Well, the 7850 won't work in UEFI mode unless you flash it with a UEFI BIOS. I would guess that's you're problem. You could switch to legacy to see if you get video output from the card.
Hello I really need your advice here!!
Do you think I should a gtx 1660 super with an i7 3770?
My goal is game on 1080p , med-high settings without having to upgrade any components for 3 years
What is your frame rate goal? Are you just looking to keep above 60 FPS?
@@TheGameBench Yes since I will be using a 60hz monitor
@@johnehab5579 Sorry for the slow reply. With the 1660 Super, you'll have no problem exceeding 60 FPS with the 3770. The 1660 Super is on par with the 1070. This also means that the 3770 will be a bottleneck in certain scenarios for the 1660 Super. Games like Far Cry 5 will be held back by the 3770 due to lower clocks and IPC. You'll still be able to get 60 FPS though.
Can I put a gtx 1660 super in dell optiplex 7010 or 7020?
Please answer the question because I am gonna buy it
You can put the 1660 Super in either. With the 7010, I would highly suggest replacing the power supply. With the 7020, you're good to go on the stock power supply.
@@TheGameBench thanks bro you are a lifesaver
@@theultimategamerandhacker No problem.
So you think the sapphire Radeon rx 550 will work good with a Optiplex that has an i5?
Absolutely, the 550 will be the limiting factor with even the i5 2500.
The Game Bench thanks I took this into consideration and I am think about getting a rx570 armour oc by msi and will pair it with a i5 3570
The Game Bench then over the years I’ll try to upgrade it to an i7 or something
@@ntclpz Sounds like a good plan. The 3770 is already pretty inexpensive.
I applied a bad overclock on a hd5670 it works but everytime I go to login the screen glitches and freezes I already uninstalled msi afterburner to get rid of the settings but it still crashes
Being an older GPU the overclock could have degraded the silicon or the memory, or any number of things. Unfortunately, it sounds like it's done for.
Hello there have you ever had a problem with board not seen the gpu hardware in windows I'm having this problem any idea 💡
Was it working before, or is this a GPU you just bought and you're trying it for the first time?
@@TheGameBench yes it was was before I updated the bio and ram
@@datamedicpr Well, I had the issue with one GPU, and what seemed to end up fixing it was deleting all the UEFI boot devices and applying, then exiting the BIOS. You could also check in the video section and make sure it's set to auto, or see if the GPU is even being detected in the BIOS. Perhaps try resetting the BIOS via the jumper.
@@TheGameBench thanks I was thinking the same just because whe it work all the settings ware in legacy 👍
Could you send an ebay link to 2 sticks of ddr3 ram 4gb each that’s compatible for dell optiplex 3020 I really don’t want to buy the wrong ram
Sure, here's one. I use this stuff all the time in these. You can even toss them an offer for a little less.
www.ebay.com/itm/SK-Hynix-8GB-4GBx2-1Rx8-HMT451U6AFR8C-PB-PC3-12800U-1600MHz-DDR3-RAM-1314-1313/254596240225?epid=662282475&hash=item3b471e5361:g:VO0AAOSwOX9evJqW
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Thank you very much for the link.
I looked at it and felt like 16gb would be a bit better so would this kit work: 8GB SK hynix 1600MHz 2Rx8 PC3L-12800U-11-13-B1 DDR3 Desktop PC Memory/RAM. Condition is Used.
Thanks again
Yeah, that's essentially they same kit, just in 8GB sticks instead of 4GB, and ideal for the 3020 since the max memory is 16GB.
I need help.I've bought a used rx 580 and i'm going to put it into a optiplex 9010 with a 500w psu but i've seen people say that i need uefi.Someone please help.
Your 9010 is UEFI capable. You just need to go into the BIOS and switch the boot mode from legacy to UEFI.
@@TheGameBench Oh thanks hopefully i'll be able to figure that out thanks
hi i’m commenting on this video as it has less comments, giving you a greater chance to reply. i have a dell optiplex 760 however i think it’s to old to upgrade. i want to buy a new optiplex and add a gpu, and try fit it with a good cpu, could you please recommend anything?
edit**** i’m not good with chipsets and stuff but could you please help
I'd agree that the 760 isn't viable for modern gaming, but they make great retro gaming systems. My recommendation is typically the 7020 or 9020 with at least an i5, preferably an i7 as they are 4th gen Core series CPUs and are still relevant for modern gaming. Right now prices are pretty volatile for the OptiPlex systems and I've seen people buy the i5 systems for up to $180, which is absurd. I can't suggest paying more than $140 for one, and it better have 8GB of RAM and 500GB at last.
Now, you might be able to find one for a reasonable price, I still do from time to time, but not often. I've pivoted to looking for i7 systems since you can find them for as little as $200 to $250 and that's well worth the upcharge. Don't consider that higher end unless it has at least 16GB of RAM and a 1 to 2TB HDD.
Some alternatives I can suggest are the Dell Precision T1700. They can be found with the same CPUs and the can also be found with a 365 watt power supply with a 6-pin PCIe power connection. I bought one recently for under $200 with an i7 4790, 16GB of RAM and no HDD. They're essentially the same system. You could also go for the 7010, 9010, Precision T1650 with a 3770, though prices for those is on the rise. Then there's the HP 600/800 G1 systems that are a decent alternative as well, but I' haven't checked on prices on those lately. I would avoid the 3rd gen i5's.
As for GPU, with the 4th gen i5, I can't really suggest more than the 1060 6GB, which can run on the stock 290 watt power supply. The 570 or 580 are decent options but will require a better PSU. If it's an i7 3770, 4770, or 4790... the 1070 or 1080 are good options and will require a PSU replacement.
Sorry for the book or a response. It's just a super open ended question.
The Game Bench you are truly one of the best, and don’t be sorry for anything! this has pointed me in the right direction!
hey I'm not sure on how to change my boot mode from legacy to uefi so i can use my rx 580 in my optiplex 9010.Your help would really be appreciated
As soon as you see the Dell boot logo start pressing F2 until you get into the BIOS. Once the BIOS is up you'll see a general section on the left. Open then and then go to boot sequence. You then see, in the middle, the option for UEFI or legacy boot. Select UEFI and apply and exit. Now, if you already have Windows installed you will need to reinstall Windows in UEFI mode or the system will not be able to boot from the drive.
@@TheGameBench Oh ok thanks is there any way i don't have to install windows again and retain all my data.
@@christojolly6506 Besides installing to a different drive, no. If the BIOS is set to UEFI there's no way for it to boot from a drive that was installed as MBR, which is legacy.
Also, I saw your other question about putting the 580 on the stock power supply.... definitely not. You'd want to get a higher wattage power supply for sure.
I'm new to all this stuff and all your videos have really helped me out,especially the optiplex ones.
Hey I know this is a bit of a weird question but would different optiplex motherboards be compatible with each other.like would a 7010 motherboard be compatible with a 9010 with i7-3770 and rx 580 thanks
Well, the 7010 and 9010 are pretty much the same. The only difference I can find is that the 9010 has vPro and the 7010 does not. Same for the 7020 vs 9020. Regardless, the 3770 will run in any xx10 model.
The Game Bench thanks for the quick reply as I’m trying to get the cheapest one possible since I’m pretty sure my motherboard broke after a installing a faulty psu.ive tried a bunch of troubleshooting but I can’t seem to get it work and now on the last resort :buying a new one.also I’m guessing the 3010 is gonna be the cheapest will the be fine
@@christojolly6506 I would avoid the 3010. It's missing a lot of features of the 7010/9010. It only has SATA 2, USB 2, PCIe 2, and a max of 16GB with only two RAM slots.
@@TheGameBench oh i didn't even realise I'll go for the 7010 motherboard
@@christojolly6506 Yep, I got one in for my next video, which is a build video and found all this stuff out. I quickly swapped it out with a 3020.
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i bought an used rx 570 after saving year, the seller said it looks new and good condition, when the gpu came, it has corrosion everywhere, i want to kill my self
Where did you buy this 570 through? eBay?
Fun watch man
Thanks!