Growing up, my dad used to plow for the local school district when he worked Maintenance. They usef Chevys. The oldest plow truck at that time around 1995 was the 78 Chevy K20 4x4. When my dad left to take the Maintenance job at the local church camp, he ordered a plow truck, a 98 GMC K2500. I was 16 and he taught me to plow. Since then i have driven different plow trucks when I worked Maintenance. Mostly Dodge trucks. But personally I am partial to GM because I grew up.on them. The last plow truck I used before leaving Maintenance myself was a 2017 F350 service body 4x4 gas engine. Awesome video. 😊
definitely agree with your comment on truck vs loaders no reason to buy something else when your already making money with something you own and don't have the headaches that come with the bigger equipment
Once you push snow in a loader, you’ll never go back to a truck and plow. Plow trucks are inefficient. They are good if you have to get to an open up quickly but that’s honestly where the advantages stop. A Deere 244 and a metalpless will finish a lot exponentially faster. I get that if you’ve already got trucks it makes sense but in snow removal, efficiency is everything. Also another note: a loader will need a lot less maintenance in the long run.
As explained in the video...They are very efficient for our properties and logistics, They are making money, and we have had basically 5 push events this season. We don't get hammered with snow like Wisconsin used to years ago. Also I'm taking my kids out for lunch today in my truck that made me money last week Thanks for watching!@@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981 🙂
@@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981 Keep in mind that he is located in southern Wisconsin not really big snow country. The truck plows are adequate for most of the snow storms that they get down there. That said, a loader would have been nice for the amount they were pushing.
You have a great attitude towards all of the comments I've come across on your channel, as well as the one you mentioned in this video. Glad to see there are people out there that can take feedback without immediately becoming defensive and nasty.
Pedestrian la always sneak up on us Got to be really aware of ur surroundings bc We,Cheetum & How commercials every 5 min on TV dosen't help either . Nice work 11:26 👌🏼 👍
I remember as a kid in the U P of Michigan in the 70’s, shovel the driveway, dark,cold, way too early. Had it finished and the road plow came by and pushed it back in on me. Sucks being a kid at times 😢. LOL . Moved away fast, now in Texas lol 😊
I know tis video IS a while back, but did you know if you get oil or grease on those bulbs they will fail much quicker. The oil heats up fast on them, and the quit . Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 👍🌲
I'm about 3 hours north of you and my boss owns a couples loaders and 580 and other machines and the big machines are for winter only, but with nobody wanting to work a lot of our machines sit and we have sub contractors with loaders and tractors. we really only use them to load salt at shop and to haul snow and push snow back these days. I mostly use my truck and some skids on sights sidewalk machines/shovel. my boss mostly goes site to site and runs ventracs on sidewalks since we dont have the man power.
@pagelservices We use ventracs for walkways. It's Deffintly a game changer stuff that used to take an hr to shovel or snowblow takes 5 minutes now. We use the stand up ones if you got the enclosed cab ride ones plenty of attachments to use them all year
Awesome video, if your ever in Orchard Park NY , Bills Country bring your plow truck , had 5' of snow in 3 days out here, it was fun plowing w/ my Snowdogg plows . I actually was using a 6 1/2' plow on a JK Wrangler that never got stuck. The 2 Silverados got workouts doing the parking lots. Last year we went through 7' of snow followed by 5' snow in a blizzard in Buffalo, NY which is 20 min. from my house. It's fun but can be a bitch when parts start breaking. Love the new LED lights I installed a few months ago . Halogen are cheaper , but they suck. Keep plowing & be safe.
I love Western plows, I've used them since 1993. Personally I wouldn't be buying new lights for the plow. I can't believe this is your first plow that the lenses have broken, most of them do around here. I have to believe it is the cold. Your's may have lasted well because your park your trucks inside. Also I doubt you will be able to get the 3/4" nut off the underside of the light. It's a carriage bolt set in plastic, great design. I plowed from 1988-2019 but finally the stress and people's expectations got to me.
Plowing can be a thankless job. Fortunately, with over two feet of snow in 4 days our crew worked their tails off to make sure we have happy customers. Thanks for watching!
Great authentic contact as always, do most of your clients pay for seasonal or by the time? I would think seasonal is more popular with commercial accounts.
I agree with the loader comment. You really need to get a loader or 2 and you will change your tune. We thought like you but we don't anymore. We replaced 4 to 5 plow trucks with 2 loaders. I did think about your services area as well. Trucks are as much as a CAT 906 - 908, or similar compact loader especially once you put 2 plows on them.
Maybe in the future we can add a couple more loaders. But every one of those trucks we need for the summer. We have multiple services we offer and use them daily. But fingers crossed more loaders in the future! Thanks for watching!
We run a SnoPower back blade, but it seems to have trouble scraping any sort of hard pack, even with full downpressure . How had your experience been with your back blade, and is it a Short Iron? Thanks!
6:15 we run a bunch of losers and stare at them all summer. On the winter lease I have found the price we pay for the lease is the same we pay for a year of payments. After 3 or 4 years it’s paid off. But alot of our machines are older losers we bought cash for $30k-$40k and I have found those work the best for snow. No payments and I don’t have to bank roll them through the summer.
That’s my problem with our mini loaders and big loaders drives me nuts watching them sit all the summer. Alternate mini loaders for loading out mulch and loam at the yard but they predominantly sit the summer. That being said these new case mini loaders are amazing for pushing snow much more efficient less hard on the trucks will still go out. Those big commercials we have we can knock them out a lot quicker with less wear and tear on the trucks. To each their own different things work for different people
My Paw always said the 2 cheapest mechanic bills you will ever pay is a quart of oil and a tube of grease and use both I'm 74 and found this to be true
The amount of fuel you’d torch thru driving loaders would buy a few transmissions for that fleet! I do have a question tho. When you were plowing the cutaway vid after loader comment. Why don’t you plow in reverse when you back up for another front push?
We used to do a ton of residential, but with our set up and having so many commercial clients we had to stop doing residential for the time being. Thanks for watching!
Oblivious this guy never grew up on a farm. Plowing snow is like discing a field. No wonder the transfer case went, all that backing up, and not moving any snow. Next to go will be his differentials(failed crush sleeve leading to pinion bearing failure)seen this movie before 😂
@@pagelservices your the one backing up moving nothing, not me. How efficient is that, and when you hear that familiar bearing growl, please polish my trophy 🏆 thanks again 👍
Like the other guy mentioned, wouldn’t we all love loaders to plow snow. don’t reply to tthese peoples ridiculous comments. Trucks and everything looking great.
Nwo landscaping /snow removal company, won’t knock plowing with a truck anything beats a shovel but even a loader to start could expand your business too
As a small business owner all I can say is you do you. What works for you may not work for others.
Thanks!
I grew up on them. I prefer them over the brands out there. 😊
Good show!
I agree with your philosophy of utilizing the equipment you already have, that's smart.
Thanks! Appreciate the comment!
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Line up 10 lots around town, loader vs plow and then tell me a loader is faster . You’re set up with that pull plow looks like the Way to go .💯
There are definitely some lots i could smoke a loader on, but some of them the loader would smoke me lol
loader would never be faster. I run a cat 980 loaders are made to move mounds of heavy material short distances.
We’re a truck based company. I get it and feel the same way. Good truck operating in this video.
Right on, thanks for the kind words!
Growing up, my dad used to plow for the local school district when he worked Maintenance. They usef Chevys. The oldest plow truck at that time around 1995 was the 78 Chevy K20 4x4. When my dad left to take the Maintenance job at the local church camp, he ordered a plow truck, a 98 GMC K2500. I was 16 and he taught me to plow. Since then i have driven different plow trucks when I worked Maintenance. Mostly Dodge trucks. But personally I am partial to GM because I grew up.on them. The last plow truck I used before leaving Maintenance myself was a 2017 F350 service body 4x4 gas engine. Awesome video. 😊
So satisfying to watch!, Always love riding along in the truck when someone I know has to plow!
You bet, thanks for watching!
definitely agree with your comment on truck vs loaders no reason to buy something else when your already making money with something you own and don't have the headaches that come with the bigger equipment
Appreciate the comment!
I agree he has the setup to do just as much as a loader and a 1/4 the cost of fuel
Once you push snow in a loader, you’ll never go back to a truck and plow. Plow trucks are inefficient. They are good if you have to get to an open up quickly but that’s honestly where the advantages stop. A Deere 244 and a metalpless will finish a lot exponentially faster. I get that if you’ve already got trucks it makes sense but in snow removal, efficiency is everything. Also another note: a loader will need a lot less maintenance in the long run.
As explained in the video...They are very efficient for our properties and logistics, They are making money, and we have had basically 5 push events this season. We don't get hammered with snow like Wisconsin used to years ago. Also I'm taking my kids out for lunch today in my truck that made me money last week Thanks for watching!@@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981 🙂
@@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981 Keep in mind that he is located in southern Wisconsin not really big snow country. The truck plows are adequate for most of the snow storms that they get down there. That said, a loader would have been nice for the amount they were pushing.
Screw the haters do what you need to do. Never worry about others cause they don’t know anything about your business.
Appreciate it!
You have a great attitude towards all of the comments I've come across on your channel, as well as the one you mentioned in this video. Glad to see there are people out there that can take feedback without immediately becoming defensive and nasty.
I appreciate that!
I enjoy the truck and plow content. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks, will do!
Pedestrian la always sneak up on us Got to be really aware of ur surroundings bc We,Cheetum & How commercials every 5 min on TV dosen't help either . Nice work 11:26 👌🏼 👍
Good job guys love ur videos watch them every morning before work
That truck is frickin awesome
Bicycling in the winter!
Minnesota baby! 😂😂
Haha, we are in Wisconsin but still, that person really had somewhere to be.
I remember as a kid in the U P of Michigan in the 70’s, shovel the driveway, dark,cold, way too early. Had it finished and the road plow came by and pushed it back in on me. Sucks being a kid at times 😢. LOL . Moved away fast, now in Texas lol 😊
haha! Love Texas! Thanks for watching!
Keep up the good work young man, I subd.
Thanks for the sub! And appreciate the kind words!
Preach it brother preacher preach it
thanks for watching!
I know tis video IS a while back, but did you know if you get oil or grease on those bulbs they will fail much quicker. The oil heats up fast on them, and the quit . Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 👍🌲
I'm about 3 hours north of you and my boss owns a couples loaders and 580 and other machines and the big machines are for winter only, but with nobody wanting to work a lot of our machines sit and we have sub contractors with loaders and tractors. we really only use them to load salt at shop and to haul snow and push snow back these days. I mostly use my truck and some skids on sights sidewalk machines/shovel. my boss mostly goes site to site and runs ventracs on sidewalks since we dont have the man power.
We have thought about ventracs for walks, thanks for watching
@pagelservices We use ventracs for walkways. It's Deffintly a game changer stuff that used to take an hr to shovel or snowblow takes 5 minutes now. We use the stand up ones if you got the enclosed cab ride ones plenty of attachments to use them all year
Awesome video, if your ever in Orchard Park NY , Bills Country bring your plow truck , had 5' of snow in 3 days out here, it was fun plowing w/ my Snowdogg plows . I actually was using a 6 1/2' plow on a JK Wrangler that never got stuck. The 2 Silverados got workouts doing the parking lots. Last year we went through 7' of snow followed by 5' snow in a blizzard in Buffalo, NY which is 20 min. from my house. It's fun but can be a bitch when parts start breaking. Love the new LED lights I installed a few months ago . Halogen are cheaper , but they suck.
Keep plowing & be safe.
Thanks for the comment and kind words! Be safe yourself!
I love Western plows, I've used them since 1993. Personally I wouldn't be buying new lights for the plow. I can't believe this is your first plow that the lenses have broken, most of them do around here. I have to believe it is the cold. Your's may have lasted well because your park your trucks inside. Also I doubt you will be able to get the 3/4" nut off the underside of the light. It's a carriage bolt set in plastic, great design. I plowed from 1988-2019 but finally the stress and people's expectations got to me.
Plowing can be a thankless job. Fortunately, with over two feet of snow in 4 days our crew worked their tails off to make sure we have happy customers. Thanks for watching!
Good work fellas!
Easy money! 🤟🏽
You already know! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video as always, have you considered getting a few back up trucks in case of break downs?
Thank you! In a perfect world we alway to try and keep at least one spare on hand.
Where I live, we use a couple farmers with the big John Deere tractors, buy them a pusher and have them push Walmart lots etc...
That is awesome! If we get some larger commercial lots maybe we could do this in the future. Thanks for watching!
Good stuff...
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks for watching!
Great authentic contact as always, do most of your clients pay for seasonal or by the time? I would think seasonal is more popular with commercial accounts.
Thanks for the kind words! We offer both options for our customers.
I agree with the loader comment. You really need to get a loader or 2 and you will change your tune.
We thought like you but we don't anymore. We replaced 4 to 5 plow trucks with 2 loaders.
I did think about your services area as well. Trucks are as much as a CAT 906 - 908, or similar compact loader especially once you put 2 plows on them.
Maybe in the future we can add a couple more loaders. But every one of those trucks we need for the summer. We have multiple services we offer and use them daily. But fingers crossed more loaders in the future! Thanks for watching!
Headlights on my HTS did the same thing. All the tabs broke
Love your content brother! I wanted to ask how u like the Chevy trucks for plowing? Have they been super reliable?
We run a SnoPower back blade, but it seems to have trouble scraping any sort of hard pack, even with full downpressure . How had your experience been with your back blade, and is it a Short Iron? Thanks!
I made my back blade 9 years ago. Yes I copied short irons design. But I run steel edges all the way around. never had an issue! thanks for watching
You can use the loaders in the summer…Pagel’s Rentals ??
haha you never know. Thanks for watching!
6:15 we run a bunch of losers and stare at them all summer. On the winter lease I have found the price we pay for the lease is the same we pay for a year of payments. After 3 or 4 years it’s paid off. But alot of our machines are older losers we bought cash for $30k-$40k and I have found those work the best for snow. No payments and I don’t have to bank roll them through the summer.
Use electrical die grease. And squeeze the connections together inside the connector.
Thanks for the tip!
That’s my problem with our mini loaders and big loaders drives me nuts watching them sit all the summer. Alternate mini loaders for loading out mulch and loam at the yard but they predominantly sit the summer. That being said these new case mini loaders are amazing for pushing snow much more efficient less hard on the trucks will still go out. Those big commercials we have we can knock them out a lot quicker with less wear and tear on the trucks. To each their own different things work for different people
Yes indeed. Thanks for watching!
My Paw always said the 2 cheapest mechanic bills you will ever pay is a quart of oil and a tube of grease and use both I'm 74 and found this to be true
Sounds like a smart person! Thanks for watching!
Hey question why didn't you do the loading docks first just curious?
It was wet and heavy. it works better to clear the path in front of the docks first
@pagelservices Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I was like, "Why is he making more work for himself?" I forgot you said it was 26 inches in the title.
The amount of fuel you’d torch thru driving loaders would buy a few transmissions for that fleet!
I do have a question tho. When you were plowing the cutaway vid after loader comment. Why don’t you plow in reverse when you back up for another front push?
Facts! Thanks for watching!
Had a similar issue with my Western snow plow headlight. Still haven’t fixed it yet, what was wrong with yours? Great videos
Thanks for the kind words. Loose connection. Thanks for watching!
i really thrive to run my business as organised as you are.
Who do you have do your sunstrips I tried having my letter guy do mine but he couldn’t get it done.
I have a local company print them but we install them ourselves. FYI they are a big PAIN IN THE A**. haha, thanks for watching!
How many miles are on a Chevy how has it held up over the years transmission engine
180k. All original
Hi I made a request regarding the mobile radios that are on your trucks and I don’t see the video about it yet
We plan on getting there. The last couple of weeks has been all plowing around these parts. Thanks for watching!
How do you like the tornado salters?
Love em. All we use. Thanks for watching!
Would you ever do residential?
We used to do a ton of residential, but with our set up and having so many commercial clients we had to stop doing residential for the time being. Thanks for watching!
Did you ever figure out why that plow light was dim?
Loose connection on main plug from harness to plow. Thanks for watching!
What brand and size lift you have?
All stock!
@ sorry I think I worded it wrong lol my apologies I met the lift and and size of (car lift) you use to pick truck up
The way you shift, no wonder you have transmission issues.
Thanks for watching!
Oblivious this guy never grew up on a farm. Plowing snow is like discing a field. No wonder the transfer case went, all that backing up, and not moving any snow. Next to go will be his differentials(failed crush sleeve leading to pinion bearing failure)seen this movie before 😂
Everyone tells me not to reply to stupid comments...But, You definitely win the gold trophy for Stupid comment! Congrats Bud!
@@pagelservices your the one backing up moving nothing, not me. How efficient is that, and when you hear that familiar bearing growl, please polish my trophy 🏆 thanks again 👍
Cant salt with a loader tho lol
Facts... a fleet of loaders would be pretty awesome though. Thanks for watching!
Like the other guy mentioned, wouldn’t we all love loaders to plow snow. don’t reply to tthese peoples ridiculous comments. Trucks and everything looking great.
Thanks for the kind words!
Don't answer dumb comments... Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks for the comment!
Me and you don't live that far apart lol
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Nwo landscaping /snow removal company, won’t knock plowing with a truck anything beats a shovel but even a loader to start could expand your business too
Thanks for the comment! We actually have two loaders and a mini, just haven't gotten much footage with them yet.
5:02 Stupid comments... Reading the stupid comments are painful
We appreciate any and all comments! Thanks for watching!
@@pagelservices Keep up the good work.
Give Tim's wages to Hunter
You think Tim got paid?
@@pagelservices 🤣
Give me a 9.6 blade on f350 I'll out plow any loader
What ever works for you bro ,u know how to use ur tools effecient
Ilove it i moved grom Michigan in 82 I miss snow im in JACKSONVILLE FL now I LOME YOUR VIDS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Music really sucks!