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Nice explanation of how a latching relay is used, but lifts (elevators) don't actually use these type of relays, even on old relay logic controllers. Normal multi-contact relays are used with one of the contacts used to maintain the relay feed to itself until a floor selector system tells it to drop out. Using the latching relay system you describe would be prohibitively expensive and unecessarily complicated to design into the operating system.
Otis elevators use a set/reset relay for 50 odd years by sending voltage one way through the coil making the armature temporary magnetised which keeped the contacts made. To reset the relay voltage was passed the reverse way. This set up was mainly used on their car/landing call relays on the floor selector.
Not being familiar with every lift control system, I stand corrected if Otis have used this type of relay in some of their equipment. However, I would still suggest that the vast majority of lift control systems do not use this type of relay in their circuits as their complicated nature is more readily served by standard relay and contactor arrangements. I was, before retirement, an electrical engineer for a British lift company designing lift control systems. Obviously, in the last thirty years or so, electronics and microprocessor controls have removed the need for these types of electro-mechanical control systems.
@@markdoble736 Does it really matter as it was just used as an example of how you "could" using a latching relay to hold up a landing call acceptance lamp on an elevator.
I actually complimented the explanation of how a latching relay works, I was simply pointing out that most lift control systems don't really use them. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, I hadn't realised how sensitive some viewers could be when being offered some useful information.
I’m an elevator tech and and instructor at our elevator apprenticeship education program. I teach solid state and I use your videos to help the students identify what we’re discussing. This video will be incredible helpful for myself and my students. Thank you.
@@starmc26 ok. Look up International Union of Elevator Constructors local offices in your state. Give the local union hall a call to see when their next hiring event is. You’ll need to sign up, take an aptitude test, and be interviewed. Unless you’re a veteran, you’ll be placed at the top of the hiring list.
This is amazing i am on a project that involves latching relay and I was all over the internet trying to understand how it work it was all in vain, all I ended up getting was pictures of MCB( miniature circuit breaker) I was giving up! until this video showed up on my notification and am forever grateful.
Seems better to just feed the coil through a N.O. contact in the relay. After energized it will stay latched. Reset button kills power to coil. Simple...
Those latching relays are widely used for lighting applications where the lights have to remain on or off after pressing a 3-position switch (on/off/stand-by)
Huh this is actually simpler than I thought. When I saw the title I had in mind a relay with multiple contacts and one set being used to latch the coil.
This is all well and good but slightly wrong. Most latching relays combine power sources and use a latch/reset circuit cut the power. Also in the case of elevators... its all PLC/PAC driven now
Otis elevators used latching (set/reset) relays for 50 odd year for the car/landing calls on their floor selector before going transistor/electronic. They would past voltage thought the coil in one direction to magnetise the armature set the relay which would keep the contacts made then pass the voltage the reverse way to demagnetize the armature to reset it.
Bad explanation I think. Whats making sure the contact is tight against the contact point, and what releasing the power from the elevator coil after coming down??
Anyone know how a pulse latching water solenoid works for a irrigation system. I’m just a plumber and how they stay open with no power feeding the solenoid seems like sorcery to me
I am working on a 2021 Ford F350 w/ factory upfitter switches. We are trying to use upfitter switch 1 as the power source for an LED beacon and 4 LED lightheads. We are trying to wire in a latching relay to cut power (or ground) to the rear 2 lighthead by wiring in a momentary button. When upfitter switch 1 is powered and all the lights are functioning (beacon and 4 lightheads) we are trying to use the momentary button to kill the rear 2 lightheads, but allow the circuit to reset when turning the upfitter off and then back on allowing power (or ground) to the rear lightheads allowing them to function again. The end user is wanting to make sure the rear lightheads will come back on through the upfitter switch 1 when turning the switch to ON. The end user works from the rear of the truck onsite and the rear 2 LED lightheads are at eye level. He is hoping to use the momentary switch to kill those 2 rear lightheads when working from the rear, allowing the other LED's (beacon and front 2 LED lightheads) to continue working, but when he gets back in the cab and turns the beacon and lightheads off killing all power to those heads, but allows the circuit to reset when turning upfitter switch 1 back on. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. I am close to figuring it out, but just can't get it sorted. Can this be done?
Do these exist for contractors for very high currents (in excess of 1000A?) For the purpose of a motor controller or small EV with a DC commutated motor to allow polarity change of field, eliminating the need for a large H bridge switch? I considered using some cheap car solenoids but having 2 of 4 of them engaged continuously would be pretty wasteful and they might overheat
This is really good type of replays thats used for many safety circuits when something wrong done for mechanical machine the fault make the latch rellay energized then you cant reset the fault to run it again by using the reset button only .you should Fixed the mechanical damage thats connected to latch rellay directly on hardwire first
@@EngineeringMindset I didn't see the size of the video from the notification.. I seen it was from you guys and immediate hit watch. I quite like the mini topic.. I am hoping it's more like a teaser for things to come?
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So clear. I didn't even know these things existed. The graphics and explanation are great!
I think you should also know about jog or D.O.L circuit.
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Nice explanation of how a latching relay is used, but lifts (elevators) don't actually use these type of relays, even on old relay logic controllers. Normal multi-contact relays are used with one of the contacts used to maintain the relay feed to itself until a floor selector system tells it to drop out. Using the latching relay system you describe would be prohibitively expensive and unecessarily complicated to design into the operating system.
Otis elevators use a set/reset relay for 50 odd years by sending voltage one way through the coil making the armature temporary magnetised which keeped the contacts made.
To reset the relay voltage was passed the reverse way.
This set up was mainly used on their car/landing call relays on the floor selector.
Not being familiar with every lift control system, I stand corrected if Otis have used this type of relay in some of their equipment. However, I would still suggest that the vast majority of lift control systems do not use this type of relay in their circuits as their complicated nature is more readily served by standard relay and contactor arrangements.
I was, before retirement, an electrical engineer for a British lift company designing lift control systems. Obviously, in the last thirty years or so, electronics and microprocessor controls have removed the need for these types of electro-mechanical control systems.
Mark Doble:
Please find something else to do. He made an illustration that all of us could understand. For we’ve all used elevators
@@markdoble736 Does it really matter as it was just used as an example of how you "could" using a latching relay to hold up a landing call acceptance lamp on an elevator.
I actually complimented the explanation of how a latching relay works, I was simply pointing out that most lift control systems don't really use them. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, I hadn't realised how sensitive some viewers could be when being offered some useful information.
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We also use latching relays for alternate operation of a two motors.
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I’m an elevator tech and and instructor at our elevator apprenticeship education program. I teach solid state and I use your videos to help the students identify what we’re discussing. This video will be incredible helpful for myself and my students. Thank you.
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I want to get into the elevator/escalator industry.. how do I do so?
@@starmc26 do you live in the states or Canada?
@@travarious2810 the United States
@@starmc26 ok. Look up International Union of Elevator Constructors local offices in your state. Give the local union hall a call to see when their next hiring event is. You’ll need to sign up, take an aptitude test, and be interviewed. Unless you’re a veteran, you’ll be placed at the top of the hiring list.
This is amazing i am on a project that involves latching relay and I was all over the internet trying to understand how it work it was all in vain, all I ended up getting was pictures of MCB( miniature circuit breaker) I was giving up! until this video showed up on my notification and am forever grateful.
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bonface muthuri it's not so complicated, i hope you ever use any D.O.L circuit both are same
I hope you know about jog or inching.
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Seems better to just feed the coil through a N.O. contact in the relay. After energized it will stay latched. Reset button kills power to coil. Simple...
Agreed, this seemed like an odd way to describe a latching relay with an odd application.
It has to be able to switch tho ..
You would need two relays to make that work. The latching relay is essentially two relays in one because it has two coils.
Those latching relays are widely used for lighting applications where the lights have to remain on or off after pressing a 3-position switch (on/off/stand-by)
You need to teach everyone to use a flyback diode! Its killed some my compoment,
(it killed my transistor bc557)
Huh this is actually simpler than I thought. When I saw the title I had in mind a relay with multiple contacts and one set being used to latch the coil.
This is all well and good but slightly wrong. Most latching relays combine power sources and use a latch/reset circuit cut the power. Also in the case of elevators... its all PLC/PAC driven now
Otis elevators used latching (set/reset) relays for 50 odd year for the car/landing calls on their floor selector before going transistor/electronic.
They would past voltage thought the coil in one direction to magnetise the armature set the relay which would keep the contacts made then pass the voltage the reverse way to demagnetize the armature to reset it.
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Bad explanation I think. Whats making sure the contact is tight against the contact point, and what releasing the power from the elevator coil after coming down??
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@@EngineeringMindset bottom right hand corner of what and when?
Anyone know how a pulse latching water solenoid works for a irrigation system. I’m just a plumber and how they stay open with no power feeding the solenoid seems like sorcery to me
I've never heard of those, but my guess is that "open" is simply the unpowered default position?
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Latching relays are found in your car's power window circuit enabling one touch down (and / or up).
is this relay? looks more like a solenoid...latching solenoid. anbyway nic e video...i was not looking for this...
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This helps allot I am working on a project for school where this is perfect for
How about a video to connect smart wifi relay?
excuse me sir there are any differences between latch relay and impulse relay?
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I am working on a 2021 Ford F350 w/ factory upfitter switches. We are trying to use upfitter switch 1 as the power source for an LED beacon and 4 LED lightheads. We are trying to wire in a latching relay to cut power (or ground) to the rear 2 lighthead by wiring in a momentary button. When upfitter switch 1 is powered and all the lights are functioning (beacon and 4 lightheads) we are trying to use the momentary button to kill the rear 2 lightheads, but allow the circuit to reset when turning the upfitter off and then back on allowing power (or ground) to the rear lightheads allowing them to function again. The end user is wanting to make sure the rear lightheads will come back on through the upfitter switch 1 when turning the switch to ON. The end user works from the rear of the truck onsite and the rear 2 LED lightheads are at eye level. He is hoping to use the momentary switch to kill those 2 rear lightheads when working from the rear, allowing the other LED's (beacon and front 2 LED lightheads) to continue working, but when he gets back in the cab and turns the beacon and lightheads off killing all power to those heads, but allows the circuit to reset when turning upfitter switch 1 back on. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. I am close to figuring it out, but just can't get it sorted. Can this be done?
Do these exist for contractors for very high currents (in excess of 1000A?) For the purpose of a motor controller or small EV with a DC commutated motor to allow polarity change of field, eliminating the need for a large H bridge switch? I considered using some cheap car solenoids but having 2 of 4 of them engaged continuously would be pretty wasteful and they might overheat
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Finally a great video on this. Sorry in advance for asking a stupid question but in the above example, what would it be called? spst,dpdt etc?
Hi, what model of relay uses this configuration? Thanks
Which the NO or NC?
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Is this how the latching contractor in DOL starter works please?
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thanks a lot the concept of latching is cleared to my your video is very helpful
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This is really good type of replays thats used for many safety circuits when something wrong done for mechanical machine the fault make the latch rellay energized then you cant reset the fault to run it again by using the reset button only .you should Fixed the mechanical damage thats connected to latch rellay directly on hardwire first
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I thought this was actually going to progress onto direct online starters
Not this one, just a quick 2min video
@@EngineeringMindset I didn't see the size of the video from the notification.. I seen it was from you guys and immediate hit watch.
I quite like the mini topic.. I am hoping it's more like a teaser for things to come?
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