The scene kills because he knows she's the last person in his life that he'll have those kinds of feelings for, and he's giving her up anyway. Jackie scares him because he thought he'd seen it all , then she comes along and makes him feel like a giddy teenager because of the layers beneath beauty and the emotional danger she reawakens in him. They are at a similar place in life chronologically, but emotionally and in terms what living remains for two of them, he's the lion in winter and she's the peregrine ready to fly. He's the wiser of the two because he understands and appreciates the beauty of the moments they shared, but also that their overall moment will not last. After a life of disappointment Max wants to end something on his terms and before he gets emotionally devastated when she chooses to move on. He's turning her down, even if its tearing him up inside. Its a great scene and a subtle, heartbreaking piece of writing. RIP Robert for making it immortal.
Screen gets blurry when he walks away to show the tears in his eyes forming. Love this one. Tarantino's hidden gem, and I'm glad it's not super popular.
@@buddry538 I certainly haven't forgotten. It was one of the most personally interesting movies of the 90s. Tarantino and the cast deserve congratulations.
One night in the early 2000s Robert Forster stopped in front of me on his way into the Bodhi Tree Bookstore in West Hollywood. I was playing a homemade shakuhachi and he was curious. We chatted for a moment and he handed me a five dollar bill and told me to have a beautiful night. We chatted a few more times before the store closed in 2011 and each time he gave me a five dollar bill, which I really needed every time. Robert Forster is a lovely human being and death is an illusion.
This scene hits hard after the day I've had. Forcing yourself to say no to someone, even when you care deeply for them, and knowing they feel the same way about you, really is one of the hardest things you'll ever have to do.
I had to do this too. I had to say no to a women I loved dearly, but knew we should not get married. Our values and expectations on a few key things were just not compatible. I remember going to my place after and throwing a glass against the wall out of frustration. But I knew it was right then, and know it now. We are still great friends, and with other people. Now in my late 40's, I realize more and more what makes a great marriage isn't the same things that make you feel like a teenager falling in love again. Having one doesn't guarantee the other. Finding both in the same person is a miracle.
Casablanca? Is Jackie Ilsa or Louie? Is Max Victor or Rick? And where is the 'lost love' sacrificed for a noble cause? I saw 2 crooks who realized they can't turn their backs on crooks.
@@mikebasil4832it’s sad though they love each other but it won’t work out because of the lifestyles they have you can see the regret in maxs eyes as she leaves and Jackie looks lonely and sad driving off even though she has the money
Plathismo yeah, Pulp Fiction gets all the publicity, perhaps rightly so, but to me, this is a flawless Tarantino masterpiece. The dialog alone is pure genius.
Not forgotten. All Tarantino movies are very well crafted. If you like them in general, you rewatch it from time to time to find a new interesting detail or enjoy something already known.
I adore that bittersweet ending: they're obviously in love with each other (especially Max with Jackie), but they are perfectly aware that they can't materialize their romance. Max is simply too settled into his quasi-bachelor life and L.A. setting to ever let go, even if he were to quit his job (which he indeed does refer to), and money doesn't do it for him either. Jackie's in it for the adventure, and knows that Max won't fit in the equation, despite her badly wanting him too.
Which is why this ending is so emotionally layered and memoreable for me. Him kissing her the second time shows that he was on the verge of giving in, before the phone rang and she tried to restrain herself to not force him withdrawing. I think they might see each other after her "extended vacation". Ending feels both as open and closed at the same time, closed as them coming apart, mutually unwillingly, but also open as it's up to us to think what could wait for either later. Maybe he eventually reconsiders, or she tires of adventure without someone to share it with, and they meet again somewhere in the middle, or he allows himself to live vicariously through her adventure smiling at thought of her whenever he gets a postcard from her.
This shit brings a tear every time. Grew up with this movie. He changes because he gets infatuated with her. He stays because he is a simple good man he knows he could bore her and couldn't handle losing her. He can sit and reminisce about her with his new favorite song. "I didn't know you like the delfonics"
@@joshgallegos8544 I first saw Robert Forster in The Black Hole. Then it was his villainous role as a terrorist in The Delta Force that first earned my respect for his talent. He certainly deserved his Oscar nomination for playing Max Cherry.
He could have changed his mind, jumped into his car and floored it , probably only so many airports with so many flights to Madrid - and she'd be travelling as a regular passenger, not as staff, so he could probably intercept her at Departures.
Nah, max cherry wouldn't have gone. He is a straight man, follows the rule what society set. But after seeing Jackie come out of that correction facility, some thing within max woke him up. He just wanted to help her, couple of drinks later, he started to like her more even though she done crime and is likely to go to jail. Next day, after the gun scene listening to delfonics, he started to like her, then was willing to help her any extent even breaking the law. Now he wud have seen a thousand black women go in and out of jail but jackie was the one true person who was a victim off circumstances and not really a criminal, he is scared of her, a little but thats not the reason he refused to go with her. Max thought about his future with her, he cant manage her, she would have had 14" black anacondas every weekend and poor old max , not even a quarter of that size , him being a white man in his 50s and all. He could never satisfy her sexually, then he is straight as an arrow and knows if gets tangled with this woman, he will break many laws and would have got winston to bail him out when he gets caught. Too much too handle so he left out, after she departs, we can see he had geniuine love for her even thinking about going but again, the future plays on his mind, society too is harsh on inter racial couples. Not so much now but back then, the 90s and before, it was bad.
I always felt like when Max asked to hang up the phone, he was gonna head outside and join her - but he's a professional. He asks. He waits. By the time that happens, she's gone. That looks is a twinge of regret - but he knows that wasn't the right path.
Some people actually think that he is going with her, that the car driving behind her in this scene is his. But I prefer the sadder, more realistic version though.
What a movie, and what an ending. So elegant, understated and beautiful. By the time Bobby Womack kicks in, I'm in bits. One of Tarantino's finest moments as a writer and director.
That last shot of Max stopping at the end of the hall and pulling his hands out of his pockets hits the hardest for me. He has reached the end, he knows it and the gesture he makes with his arms can either be him starting to cry or starting to think about the situation.
I've seen all of Tarantino's films, and this one is still my favorite. In my mind, two weeks later Max receives a postcard from Jackie in Madrid, he ties up loose ends in LA, leaves Winston in charge of the office, and arrives in Spain about a month after this scene.
@@Maniac1607 you want to hurt me? Go right ahead if Makes you feel any better, I'm an easy target. Yeah you're right, I talk too much.. but I also listen too much.. I could be all cold-hearted cynic like you, but I don't like to hurt people's feelings. You think what you want about me, I'm not changing.. I like me... My Friends like me... My wife likes me.. because Im the real article.. what u see is what you get.
The older I get and each time I see it I love this more and more. One day I think I will look at this as Tarantino’s masterpiece and Max Cherry his greatest character. RIP Robert Forester an actor who will be missed
The first time I watched it, I thought it was too long and a little bit uninteresting, but as I get older and rewatch it, I'm surprised by it. It gets better and better.
@Akshay Natu I don't think so...what did she have before she met him. nothing...no money, no man, no life. He helped her get all of those things. She def. wanted to start over
You have to be at Max Cherry's Age to truly understand the MEANING of this Scene .. He has a Legit Business he has worked all his life to build up.. its not much but he makes an Honest Living and he is good at it and most times he enjoys it even , helping people in need . Along comes this Woman who completely turns his life upside down, and he could have had a real Nice Future with her but it would be Chaos as well in the short term .. So Logically he can not follow his Heart .. he is tied and MARRIED to his Business.. because that is what pays the Bills ... Its a very sad Scene , and very realistic ... Real Deep Stuff.. Like i said you have to be at that age, and stage of your Life and not Delusional about what you are capable of , and you know you are not 20's- 30's anymore ... to really appreciate it ..
Thanks for the great explanation. I always wondered why he didnt go with her. She Really liked him too as he was a decent and honest guy who didn't scheme behind her back. They could have gone off to Spain together. It is a really sad scene.
I completely agree. This scene is very underrated, and ranks with me as one of the better moments in cinema history. The tension just hangs there. You know he really cares for her and wants to go with her, but as he said earlier, he's just set in his ways. It wouldn't be as great a scene as it is if wasn't earned throughout the film, which it is. Tarantino is hit and miss with me, but this movie is just fantastic from start to finish.
I,M 59, I have had a few girlfriends, never married, no children of my own except a adopted son I love and take care of full time on my own, he is now 12. what the hell is wrong with me ? I still "weep" silently when love scenes like these remind me that I need love, we all do, we're all only human beings. I might have a screw loose, people often ask why I never married, I can,t answer because I don,t know! I do secretly dream of love hitting me like it did for these two in this movie, I must be odd.
jerry langford: Being unmarried is not odd at all. Who are these people asking why you never married. They are either ignorant or they want to set you up with their friend. I think your son's opinion is the most important since he lives with you. Just saying. This is one of my favorite movies. Pam Grier and Robert Forster portray people who have seen it all in this world and are surrounded by frantic greedy idiots. Besides their great chemistry, I think they are surprised and in awe of the goodness within each other. her in Spain for a brief romance, then they remain great friends for life.
@@JulieRainyPDX Its not about being married, but semi-denying yourself the companionship. Its just formal way of such companionship to be "sealed"(which for some people who stop giving in the effort into relationship leads to them collapsing eventually, so its not always a good thing). That we do need, to have someone to share life with, people who dont get it fall to bad habits, addictions or self-destructive lifestyles full of shallow and casual relationships and pleasure seeking as replacement for joy that having someone to enjoy life with would give. It doesnt mean you have to marry, but living a lone life without a lifelong friend and lover is empty, unless you pour yourself into something else as replacement...art or music, but even this is not enough, many take their lives away despite being gifted, but forever unhappy. As for the film, i love the ending as it, it feel both closed and open at the same time, and just like the film's restraint and subtlety, it adds to it. Including each of us having an opportunity to think how they lives went on and if they stayed in touch. Which i also think they did, maybe she even came back after her vacation in Spain and told him all about her travels and reignited something in him again like she did earlier in the film.
The sequence where she sings Across 110th Street as she drives off is a beautiful full circle moment. Across 110th Street is a meta-commentary on the film because its use reflects Jackie's situation: "Pimps tryna catch a woman thats weak". She might have been perceived as weak after the title sequence when the song plays throughout only for her to be caught by ATF, but in the end she triumphs and we discover her true strength. She was the one who pimped all of them out of their own game.
Definitely the most down-to-Earth, mature and romantic Tarantino movie. It's interesting he had this in him so early in his career. I love the characters and the acting in the film. And really, the whole money deal and the criminal plot play second fiddle to the story about two aging people finding some spark in their life again out of the blue. What people often overlook is that it required insane effort on Jackie's part to pull it off. She had to play so many people, all looking out only for their interests, treating her just like an accessory (Ordell) or as a pity case (ATF). The only one who treated her with care was Max. Someone she might have laughed off as a dork as a young girl, but now that man literally saved her life. Without him, the plan never happens, because who could she trust with the half a million? Only someone truly honest and caring about her, which he was. The ending is sad, because I think after her life, she knows finding a man she can truly trust is almost impossible, let alone someone who is smart, normal, kind. She probably would enjoy his company, but he is too humble, proud and decent to enjoy flying off with her living off of her stolen money. And too old to make a radical decision like this. But, he knows this was special and that he let something good he will never get again slip away because he was afraid and too set in his ways to leave. And the saddest thing is it was probably the right decision given their age, life experience, etc. That's a hell of a romance, appropriate for two older people who just met each other.
Forster and Grier's chemistry is beyond just mere acting. Man they really play complex, and deep characters as QT can write them. Thanks QT for this most exceptional and my fav of your works,
what makes this scene even sadder/better is when you remember his reaction to her walking out of the county jail when he first sees her for the first time. Most likely dirty and smelly, probably hadn’t showered in a few days and he fell flat on his face for her anyway.
QT writes a tremendous story. Yes Jackie was disheveled beyond caring getting out of LA County Jail. As someone who has been there myself, for a Traffic Ticket that went to Warrant, I know the Scummy feeling you have getting out of there when Bail is posted. Yes Max fell for her right there and then. Forster nails it with that look on his face. We will be missing you always Bob Forster.
I don't like most of Tarantino's work, but this is such a wonderful, humane, intercultural scene. He's never met a woman like her, and she has never met a man like him. His decision is sad, but makes the most sense in the end.
Just watched this movie for the second time after 20 something years. I really wish he would have gone with her to Spain. I felt a bit sad to be honest, but that's probably the way this was intended. Great movie. I just love how she played everyone, except Max who really was her partner.
I find it interesting that "Across 110th Street" was a song made for a movie score - written for the movie "Across 110th Street" (1972). Most songs written specifically for a movie aren't very good, but this is one of the greats. I don't believe it's a coincidence that QT chose a cinema-related song to close out his masterpiece.
Such a good scene..love that you think the song is only part of the soundtrack when Jackie is in the car. And then all of sudden you realize it's on the car radio when Jackie starts sadly mouthing the words along with the song. Heart breaking. Bucket list- to be in a Tarantino film!
@@HotStrange Personally, I prefer Django to Basterds, but I'd be hard pressed to make an argument against Basterds. For number 2 , that is - Jackie Brown def number 1.
One of the only films which actually felt real, and you enjoyed every bit of it, kudos the Elmore Leonard for writing and to the Quentin Tarantino who executed the story nicely.
Remembering why I love this movie so much. Robert Forster was one of the greats and this was his showcase. Pam Grier is one of the most beautiful and talented ladies to ever grace a movie screen.
The main theme of the movie is aging and not being able to hack it anymore. Jackie is the only character that can and Max knows he’s too old to keep up. The other characters’ downfall were they thought they could still keep up with that lifestyle but they could not. It’s a real life problem with middle aged men in that some don’t realize they can’t do what they used to. In that regard, Jackie is a superhero. The other theme of this movie I think is that Jackie is so underprivileged as a black woman in America, she has to be a superhero just to survive. That leads to her ability to out fox everyone. Max knows what he can and can’t do. Max is aware enough that in order to survive he has to slowly fade away. He’s also dealt with criminals all his life without getting involved on that side of things and ultimately Jackie is a criminal. He broke that rule for her but knows it has to end there.
Robert Forster is one of the most underrated actors of all time imo. And he was an amazing person... Rip king. Wish I could have seen a movie with you Dale Dye and R. Lee Ermey together
I seriously think he was too handsome. People tend to perceive beautiful people as superficial, untrustworthy, even stupid - ultimately as soulless. I recently noticed these negative biases in myself when I communicated very briefly with a young woman on the Internet. She had, without exaggeration, a face of overwhelming beauty.
The music in this film was phenomenal. This is a truly phenomenal movie. Quentin has a great knowledge and appreciation of films and an especially cool way of resurrecting actors out of the past and bring them back better than ever! This was the first time seeing Robert Forester for me. I have seen him a bunch of movies since then - he's awesome. Pam Grier? What more do you need to say?
Excellent observations. These scenes are the reason that this is my favorite Tarantino film. I don't think he's ever made another film as mature and moving as this one. There's nothing like the ending of this film in any of his other films that I'm aware of. It's a shame because it demonstrates how much more talented Tarantino is than the majority of his films illustrate. Most of his films come across as tributes to exploitation films. It's very rare to be moved like this by a Tarantino film for me anyway
“You’re running a business.” The meaning behind that line could mean so much. I think any hardworking person would’ve loved to take Jackie’s offer. Just get away and forget it all. When he told that person to call him back in 30, I was for sure he was gonna take her offer and run away 😭😭😭😭😭
This is an awesome bittersweet ending. When I first saw it I was disappointed he didn’t go with her. Now I think I understand that a purely happy ending just wouldn’t have worked in this movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. As I get closer to the age that Max is in the movie (I'm about to turn 48) this movie has meant more to me than when it did when it was originally released.
First time I saw this movie I didn't much care for it, and this was after absolutely loving Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. I initially thought Jackie Brown was maybe 30 minutes too long and kinda dragged a bit. But over the years I would periodically get an itch to revisit this movie for some reason and over the course of several re-viewings I came to appreciate it as a virtually flawless movie. It never puts a foot wrong. It's one of his very best.
She’s a flight attendant and had been everywhere so you know it’s her favorite place. My little brother was a pilot for Delta’s for decades and yet he lives outside of Cincinnati in Kentucky, but they travel the world.
I haven't seen anyone point out in the comments that the ending is a masterfully understated cliffhanger. The very last moment we see Max, he places his hand to his face in a clear gesture of intense contemplation on whether or not to change his decision on the spot and go after her. Watch it again and see if you don't agree.
That’s the truth. Maybe he did go to find her maybe he didn’t. It’s up to us. I always felt like maybe he went to visit her in Spain once or twice years later. AT LEAST he can do that
Well if I was Max I would have phoned Winston & said "Bail Bond's is all yours, I'm outta here." Turn down going away with Jackie Brown, must be outta your god damn mind.
The scene kills because he knows she's the last person in his life that he'll have those kinds of feelings for, and he's giving her up anyway. Jackie scares him because he thought he'd seen it all , then she comes along and makes him feel like a giddy teenager because of the layers beneath beauty and the emotional danger she reawakens in him. They are at a similar place in life chronologically, but emotionally and in terms what living remains for two of them, he's the lion in winter and she's the peregrine ready to fly. He's the wiser of the two because he understands and appreciates the beauty of the moments they shared, but also that their overall moment will not last. After a life of disappointment Max wants to end something on his terms and before he gets emotionally devastated when she chooses to move on. He's turning her down, even if its tearing him up inside. Its a great scene and a subtle, heartbreaking piece of writing. RIP Robert for making it immortal.
What an analysis. A shame it'll go underappreciated.
Beautiful analysis. RIP Robert. He nailed the dismount!
@Vlad Drac As a dumbshit comment your rebuttal is nunderated and unappreciated.
Nice piece of analysis
Did Jackie really want him to go with her?
The chemistry between Pam Grier and Robert Forster is very special and the most enjoyable element of Jackie Brown for me.
Man,I’d be all over her,like a proper rash,gonna watch again tah x
Unpopular opinion: Jackie Brown is Tarantino's finest work. This is why.
I agree 100%. I love it from start to finish.
It is! And it's the best Elmore Leonard adaption, too! Even Leonard said that!
I'm with you.
IT IS! But this scene kept it from perfection. He should have gone with her. They could have been happy!
A lot of people, including some critics, think so as well. Not too much of an unpopular opinion.
Screen gets blurry when he walks away to show the tears in his eyes forming. Love this one. Tarantino's hidden gem, and I'm glad it's not super popular.
I think people forgot about this movie, which is a shame.
@@buddry538 I certainly haven't forgotten. It was one of the most personally interesting movies of the 90s. Tarantino and the cast deserve congratulations.
Tarantino's best in my opinion. I love this movie more with every viewing.
One night in the early 2000s Robert Forster stopped in front of me on his way into the Bodhi Tree Bookstore in West Hollywood. I was playing a homemade shakuhachi and he was curious. We chatted for a moment and he handed me a five dollar bill and told me to have a beautiful night. We chatted a few more times before the store closed in 2011 and each time he gave me a five dollar bill, which I really needed every time. Robert Forster is a lovely human being and death is an illusion.
@DooDooBumMan - you are welcome. Wait'll I tell you my Quentin story (much typing).
@@dennismason3740 Robert Forster and I played pickleball, at the first pickleball courts in LA. he won, naturally
@@tonywalton1052 - Naturally - what a mensch. A good human being.
This scene hits hard after the day I've had. Forcing yourself to say no to someone, even when you care deeply for them, and knowing they feel the same way about you, really is one of the hardest things you'll ever have to do.
I had to do this too. I had to say no to a women I loved dearly, but knew we should not get married. Our values and expectations on a few key things were just not compatible. I remember going to my place after and throwing a glass against the wall out of frustration. But I knew it was right then, and know it now. We are still great friends, and with other people. Now in my late 40's, I realize more and more what makes a great marriage isn't the same things that make you feel like a teenager falling in love again. Having one doesn't guarantee the other. Finding both in the same person is a miracle.
It is brutal.
What seals this scene is the awkwardness in Max’s kiss... shows he doesn’t kiss often but eager to kiss Jackie.
I think this is one of the greatest endings in all of cinema. It’s like Casablanca but there’s just so much emotion in this one.
I agree, the tone, the dialog, the raw emotion is woven perfectly.
Casablanca? Is Jackie Ilsa or Louie? Is Max Victor or Rick? And where is the 'lost love' sacrificed for a noble cause? I saw 2 crooks who realized they can't turn their backs on crooks.
That last shot always reminds me of the last shot of The Third Man - long, static take, almost hypnotic, and kinda heartbreaking.
Hear hear!
Pam and Robert were magical in this movie, unbeatable chemistry.
Pam's last line: "You're running a business, Max." is so especially unforgettable.
@@mikebasil4832it’s sad though they love each other but it won’t work out because of the lifestyles they have you can see the regret in maxs eyes as she leaves and Jackie looks lonely and sad driving off even though she has the money
I love that Max just needs 30 minutes. No need to say why or what for, he just needed 30 minutes. We've all had those moments. RIP Robert.
He's Jackin it
They should of been together.
@@m4x526 lmao right
He needed a 5 knuckle shuffle to get her out of his mind
He took the 30mins to open up a vacuum repair shop.
Quentin's forgotten film, but one of his best in my opinion.
Who forgot?
Many consider it his best. I wasn't crazy about it when I first saw it but with repeat viewings I've come to consider it a masterpiece. Flawless.
Plathismo yeah, Pulp Fiction gets all the publicity, perhaps rightly so, but to me, this is a flawless Tarantino masterpiece. The dialog alone is pure genius.
Thumbs up!
Not forgotten. All Tarantino movies are very well crafted. If you like them in general, you rewatch it from time to time to find a new interesting detail or enjoy something already known.
I adore that bittersweet ending: they're obviously in love with each other (especially Max with Jackie), but they are perfectly aware that they can't materialize their romance.
Max is simply too settled into his quasi-bachelor life and L.A. setting to ever let go, even if he were to quit his job (which he indeed does refer to), and money doesn't do it for him either.
Jackie's in it for the adventure, and knows that Max won't fit in the equation, despite her badly wanting him too.
Which is why this ending is so emotionally layered and memoreable for me. Him kissing her the second time shows that he was on the verge of giving in, before the phone rang and she tried to restrain herself to not force him withdrawing. I think they might see each other after her "extended vacation". Ending feels both as open and closed at the same time, closed as them coming apart, mutually unwillingly, but also open as it's up to us to think what could wait for either later. Maybe he eventually reconsiders, or she tires of adventure without someone to share it with, and they meet again somewhere in the middle, or he allows himself to live vicariously through her adventure smiling at thought of her whenever he gets a postcard from her.
This shit brings a tear every time. Grew up with this movie. He changes because he gets infatuated with her. He stays because he is a simple good man he knows he could bore her and couldn't handle losing her. He can sit and reminisce about her with his new favorite song. "I didn't know you like the delfonics"
This film is just a sign of respect to two wonderful actors, Pam Grier and Robert Forster, whom Tarantino adored since his childhood
RIP Robert Forster.
I was glad I saw him for the last time in El Camino. He was great in the film and still looked very strong!
@@joshgallegos8544 I first saw Robert Forster in The Black Hole. Then it was his villainous role as a terrorist in The Delta Force that first earned my respect for his talent. He certainly deserved his Oscar nomination for playing Max Cherry.
A perfect ending. They both have a thing for each other but they're too experienced in life and know that it can't work.
I always wanted Max to go with Jackie.
Well, if it's any consolation, in the book it's unclear if Max goes or stays.
He could have changed his mind, jumped into his car and floored it , probably only so many airports with so many flights to Madrid - and she'd be travelling as a regular passenger, not as staff, so he could probably intercept her at Departures.
I know what you mean, but he could never go. It was a fantastic ending.
Jaybee BEE I don’t think he did though
Nah, max cherry wouldn't have gone. He is a straight man, follows the rule what society set. But after seeing Jackie come out of that correction facility, some thing within max woke him up. He just wanted to help her, couple of drinks later, he started to like her more even though she done crime and is likely to go to jail. Next day, after the gun scene listening to delfonics, he started to like her, then was willing to help her any extent even breaking the law. Now he wud have seen a thousand black women go in and out of jail but jackie was the one true person who was a victim off circumstances and not really a criminal, he is scared of her, a little but thats not the reason he refused to go with her. Max thought about his future with her, he cant manage her, she would have had 14" black anacondas every weekend and poor old max , not even a quarter of that size , him being a white man in his 50s and all. He could never satisfy her sexually, then he is straight as an arrow and knows if gets tangled with this woman, he will break many laws and would have got winston to bail him out when he gets caught. Too much too handle so he left out, after she departs, we can see he had geniuine love for her even thinking about going but again, the future plays on his mind, society too is harsh on inter racial couples. Not so much now but back then, the 90s and before, it was bad.
I always felt like when Max asked to hang up the phone, he was gonna head outside and join her - but he's a professional. He asks. He waits. By the time that happens, she's gone. That looks is a twinge of regret - but he knows that wasn't the right path.
Some people actually think that he is going with her, that the car driving behind her in this scene is his. But I prefer the sadder, more realistic version though.
What a movie, and what an ending. So elegant, understated and beautiful. By the time Bobby Womack kicks in, I'm in bits. One of Tarantino's finest moments as a writer and director.
This is one of the greatest movies ever made and certainly Tarantino's best. I love all his movies, but this one takes the cake.
That last shot of Max stopping at the end of the hall and pulling his hands out of his pockets hits the hardest for me. He has reached the end, he knows it and the gesture he makes with his arms can either be him starting to cry or starting to think about the situation.
I've seen all of Tarantino's films, and this one is still my favorite.
In my mind, two weeks later Max receives a postcard from Jackie in Madrid, he ties up loose ends in LA, leaves Winston in charge of the office, and arrives in Spain about a month after this scene.
That's what I thought might happen last time I saw it.
That would be a great ending for the film.
J A Jones-Ford It would defeat the point, but it would be nice to have as an alternate ending
He finds out she was found in Spain by Ordells people and moves to New Mexico to help other people disappear....and do it right.
yea its my favorite too
The look on Bob's face when Pam drives off. Great acting.
That's max and Jackie. Not Bob and Pam. Grow up
They're actors. Piss off, turkey-neck.
@@Maniac1607 you want to hurt me? Go right ahead if Makes you feel any better, I'm an easy target. Yeah you're right, I talk too much.. but I also listen too much.. I could be all cold-hearted cynic like you, but I don't like to hurt people's feelings. You think what you want about me, I'm not changing.. I like me... My Friends like me... My wife likes me.. because Im the real article.. what u see is what you get.
@@TurkeysLeg what in the world did I just witness ?🤣🤣🤣
@@TurkeysLeg *hangs up jacket*
Man this movie is underrated. So many great characters executed so well by the actors.
The scenes between Robert Forster and Pam Grier were my absolute top favorite. The ending (this scene) was breathtaking.
It felt real.
And heartbreaking
The older I get and each time I see it I love this more and more. One day I think I will look at this as Tarantino’s masterpiece and Max Cherry his greatest character.
RIP Robert Forester an actor who will be missed
The first time I watched it, I thought it was too long and a little bit uninteresting, but as I get older and rewatch it, I'm surprised by it. It gets better and better.
technically max nor any of the characters in this are Tarantino's characters because its based on a book
Max is not interesting like Jules,Vince,Mr black,or even Ordell
Jackie is a beautiful woman! So glad that she won in the end and the bad guy ended up dead. She deserved that money more then Ordell did.
$500k and a trip to Spain with Pam Grier. You better believe I'm closing up shop and going along.
Bugsy pam grier hell yea
@Canterino who said anything about "forever"?
I would've went if she was broke....
"WISHA, COULDA, WOULDA"!
@Akshay Natu I don't think so...what did she have before she met him. nothing...no money, no man, no life. He helped her get all of those things. She def. wanted to start over
Oh what a gorgeous woman
Only a lack guy would say that
black guy
@@ehsrama lol nah I'm Mexican and she's gorgeous af
ehsrama
I’m white and she’s a very good looking older woman with class.
All woman
You have to be at Max Cherry's Age to truly understand the MEANING of this Scene .. He has a Legit Business he has worked all his life to build up.. its not much but he makes an Honest Living and he is good at it and most times he enjoys it even , helping people in need .
Along comes this Woman who completely turns his life upside down, and he could have had a real Nice Future with her but it would be Chaos as well in the short term
.. So Logically he can not follow his Heart .. he is tied and MARRIED to his Business.. because that is what pays the Bills ... Its a very sad Scene , and very realistic ... Real Deep Stuff.. Like i said you have to be at that age, and stage of your Life and not Delusional about what you are capable of , and you know you are not 20's- 30's anymore ... to really appreciate it ..
Facts and when Jackie asks him when they first meet how does he feel about getting old. It all hits him at the end
Thanks for the great explanation. I always wondered why he didnt go with her. She Really liked him too as he was a decent and honest guy who didn't scheme behind her back. They could have gone off to Spain together. It is a really sad scene.
@@7879Marina Its like La La land.... to know what could have been, but did not. Its sad to see.
It would eventually be chaos is right. She just attracts it and he’s seen her type a million times.
I completely agree. This scene is very underrated, and ranks with me as one of the better moments in cinema history. The tension just hangs there. You know he really cares for her and wants to go with her, but as he said earlier, he's just set in his ways. It wouldn't be as great a scene as it is if wasn't earned throughout the film, which it is. Tarantino is hit and miss with me, but this movie is just fantastic from start to finish.
I,M 59, I have had a few girlfriends, never married, no children of my own except a adopted son I love and take care of full time on my own, he is now 12. what the hell is wrong with me ? I still "weep" silently when love scenes like these remind me that I need love, we all do, we're all only human beings. I might have a screw loose, people often ask why I never married, I can,t answer because I don,t know! I do secretly dream of love hitting me like it did for these two in this movie, I must be odd.
jerry langford: Being unmarried is not odd at all. Who are these people asking why you never married. They are either ignorant or they want to set you up with their friend. I think your son's opinion is the most important since he lives with you. Just saying.
This is one of my favorite movies. Pam Grier and Robert Forster portray people who have seen it all in this world and are surrounded by frantic greedy idiots. Besides their great chemistry, I think they are surprised and in awe of the goodness within each other.
her in Spain for a brief romance, then they remain great friends for life.
@@JulieRainyPDX Its not about being married, but semi-denying yourself the companionship. Its just formal way of such companionship to be "sealed"(which for some people who stop giving in the effort into relationship leads to them collapsing eventually, so its not always a good thing).
That we do need, to have someone to share life with, people who dont get it fall to bad habits, addictions or self-destructive lifestyles full of shallow and casual relationships and pleasure seeking as replacement for joy that having someone to enjoy life with would give.
It doesnt mean you have to marry, but living a lone life without a lifelong friend and lover is empty, unless you pour yourself into something else as replacement...art or music, but even this is not enough, many take their lives away despite being gifted, but forever unhappy.
As for the film, i love the ending as it, it feel both closed and open at the same time, and just like the film's restraint and subtlety, it adds to it. Including each of us having an opportunity to think how they lives went on and if they stayed in touch.
Which i also think they did, maybe she even came back after her vacation in Spain and told him all about her travels and reignited something in him again like she did earlier in the film.
Quentin's best movie. The ONLY one I can watch over and over.
Arguable
Even over Pulp Fiction?
And Jackie Brown too
'been 20 times
I like it because it can be taken the most seriously of his films, nothing ridiculous or over top.
The sequence where she sings Across 110th Street as she drives off is a beautiful full circle moment. Across 110th Street is a meta-commentary on the film because its use reflects Jackie's situation: "Pimps tryna catch a woman thats weak". She might have been perceived as weak after the title sequence when the song plays throughout only for her to be caught by ATF, but in the end she triumphs and we discover her true strength. She was the one who pimped all of them out of their own game.
Yes!!
Definitely the most down-to-Earth, mature and romantic Tarantino movie. It's interesting he had this in him so early in his career.
I love the characters and the acting in the film. And really, the whole money deal and the criminal plot play second fiddle to the story about two aging people finding some spark in their life again out of the blue.
What people often overlook is that it required insane effort on Jackie's part to pull it off. She had to play so many people, all looking out only for their interests, treating her just like an accessory (Ordell) or as a pity case (ATF). The only one who treated her with care was Max.
Someone she might have laughed off as a dork as a young girl, but now that man literally saved her life. Without him, the plan never happens, because who could she trust with the half a million? Only someone truly honest and caring about her, which he was.
The ending is sad, because I think after her life, she knows finding a man she can truly trust is almost impossible, let alone someone who is smart, normal, kind. She probably would enjoy his company, but he is too humble, proud and decent to enjoy flying off with her living off of her stolen money. And too old to make a radical decision like this.
But, he knows this was special and that he let something good he will never get again slip away because he was afraid and too set in his ways to leave.
And the saddest thing is it was probably the right decision given their age, life experience, etc. That's a hell of a romance, appropriate for two older people who just met each other.
A movie with a lot of heart in it and yes, his most grounded work I think. It doesn't have those QT trademark burst of excessive violence scenes.
Forster and Grier's chemistry is beyond just mere acting. Man they really play complex, and deep characters as QT can write them. Thanks QT for this most exceptional and my fav of your works,
what makes this scene even sadder/better is when you remember his reaction to her walking out of the county jail when he first sees her for the first time. Most likely dirty and smelly, probably hadn’t showered in a few days and he fell flat on his face for her anyway.
QT writes a tremendous story. Yes Jackie was disheveled beyond caring getting out of LA County Jail. As someone who has been there myself, for a Traffic Ticket that went to Warrant, I know the Scummy feeling you have getting out of there when Bail is posted. Yes Max fell for her right there and then. Forster nails it with that look on his face. We will be missing you always Bob Forster.
@@alexjackman9493 This was an Elmore Leonard novel turned into a movie. One of the few that Quentin didn't conceive.
I don't like most of Tarantino's work, but this is such a wonderful, humane, intercultural scene. He's never met a woman like her, and she has never met a man like him. His decision is sad, but makes the most sense in the end.
I’m also a non-Tarantino lover who loves this movie. Reading reviews I feel like many Tarantino fans did not like this one though.
It is probably the sweetest scene in the entire Tarantino oeuvre.
The scenes between Rick and Cliff and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are even more wholesome.
@@JustSomeCanadianGuy an excellent point
@@JustSomeCanadianGuy"don't cry in front of the Mexicans" really hit hard.
finest scene ever. tarantino is a master. always knows how much to tell and how much to leave out.
One of the most bittersweet films of all time.
Camera blurs as his eyes tear up. Really sad scene.
Cherry went on to become a very good Vaccum repair man.
R.I.P. Robert Forster 1941-2019
Just watched this movie for the second time after 20 something years. I really wish he would have gone with her to Spain. I felt a bit sad to be honest, but that's probably the way this was intended. Great movie. I just love how she played everyone, except Max who really was her partner.
I find it interesting that "Across 110th Street" was a song made for a movie score - written for the movie "Across 110th Street" (1972). Most songs written specifically for a movie aren't very good, but this is one of the greats. I don't believe it's a coincidence that QT chose a cinema-related song to close out his masterpiece.
Such a good scene..love that you think the song is only part of the soundtrack when Jackie is in the car. And then all of sudden you realize it's on the car radio when Jackie starts sadly mouthing the words along with the song. Heart breaking. Bucket list- to be in a Tarantino film!
The two actors have you in their hands with the acting! This scene so gets to you! Wonderful ending! Keeping it real!!
Pam Grier deserved an Oscar for this.
Seeing Pam's face as Jackie driving away while Across 110th Street is playing is my most beautiful memory of her.
This is QTs best movie. It showed that he can make a movie with a lot of heart in it too. This and Inglorious Basterds will always be his top 2.
Why Inglorious Basterds?
@@rosemaryleitz3788 why not? Lol I just think those are his 2 most well made movies.
@@HotStrange Personally, I prefer Django to Basterds, but I'd be hard pressed to make an argument against Basterds. For number 2 , that is - Jackie Brown def number 1.
This scene is tearing me apart given all the situations I associate this with.
Pam Grier was and is magical with her beauty.
This film was such a love letter. It's the one I think he would have made even if he didn't get paid a dime for it. So great!
I can really appreciate the editing, directing, writing, acting.
It's much deeper than what I originally thought, when I first watched it.
This hits like a ton of bricks when you stay in a similar sentimental situation.
100% true
Far and away Tarantino's best. A masterpiece.
One of the only films which actually felt real, and you enjoyed every bit of it, kudos the Elmore Leonard for writing and to the Quentin Tarantino who executed the story nicely.
Remembering why I love this movie so much. Robert Forster was one of the greats and this was his showcase. Pam Grier is one of the most beautiful and talented ladies to ever grace a movie screen.
The main theme of the movie is aging and not being able to hack it anymore. Jackie is the only character that can and Max knows he’s too old to keep up. The other characters’ downfall were they thought they could still keep up with that lifestyle but they could not. It’s a real life problem with middle aged men in that some don’t realize they can’t do what they used to. In that regard, Jackie is a superhero.
The other theme of this movie I think is that Jackie is so underprivileged as a black woman in America, she has to be a superhero just to survive. That leads to her ability to out fox everyone.
Max knows what he can and can’t do. Max is aware enough that in order to survive he has to slowly fade away.
He’s also dealt with criminals all his life without getting involved on that side of things and ultimately Jackie is a criminal. He broke that rule for her but knows it has to end there.
Max later changed his identity and used the money to set up a vacuum repair shop in Albuquerque New Mexico.
Haha i was telling my pop this last night i just saw this for the first time after giving myself a Tarantino and Scorsese film festival
❤❤❤this love scene makes me cry .the dialogue is a piece of jewelry.and this masterpiece of sountrack .....110th...❤❤❤
Elmore Leonard writes a good story and Tarantino did a good job putting it to a movie.
_My goodness, I would NOT pass up running away to Spain with Pam Grier_
Jackie Brown is Tarantino's finest film and a flawless masterpiece. A true modern classic.
He revived Pam Grier and John Travolta's careers.
Exquisite. Masterful. Everything. Acting, directing, editing, music. My fav QT.
He didn’t lie when she asked, “R u scared of me?”.😂
That’s why she liked him he was honest and never used her like most people in the movie tried to do
A work of art, with a lot of portraits
The score The score The score
Tarantino is great with good music for all his movies
Tremendous cast .... Pam Grier is sublime .... one of my favorite QT jams
Robert Forster is one of the most underrated actors of all time imo. And he was an amazing person... Rip king. Wish I could have seen a movie with you Dale Dye and R. Lee Ermey together
I seriously think he was too handsome. People tend to perceive beautiful people as superficial, untrustworthy, even stupid - ultimately as soulless. I recently noticed these negative biases in myself when I communicated very briefly with a young woman on the Internet. She had, without exaggeration, a face of overwhelming beauty.
The music in this film was phenomenal. This is a truly phenomenal movie. Quentin has a great knowledge and appreciation of films and an especially cool way of resurrecting actors out of the past and bring them back better than ever! This was the first time seeing Robert Forester for me. I have seen him a bunch of movies since then - he's awesome. Pam Grier? What more do you need to say?
Let me call you back in 30, I just got my world rocked. *Bobby Womack intensifies*
Brah.. yes!
This movie conveyed such a big feeling
The Best Movie of Tarantino for me. Excellent 👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
She is beautifull beyond any other woman i have ever seen in my life
Definitely agree with you there. Pam Grier over any of the Kardashians 24/7
I just saw this for the first time last night. Amazing and exceeded my expectations. I like to think Max went after her in the end..
So do I. He should be with her.
Rip Robert Forester. One helluva legend.
Robert Robert forster as Max Cherry greatest casting every.
Excellent observations. These scenes are the reason that this is my favorite Tarantino film. I don't think he's ever made another film as mature and moving as this one. There's nothing like the ending of this film in any of his other films that I'm aware of. It's a shame because it demonstrates how much more talented Tarantino is than the majority of his films illustrate. Most of his films come across as tributes to exploitation films. It's very rare to be moved like this by a Tarantino film for me anyway
“You’re running a business.” The meaning behind that line could mean so much. I think any hardworking person would’ve loved to take Jackie’s offer. Just get away and forget it all. When he told that person to call him back in 30, I was for sure he was gonna take her offer and run away 😭😭😭😭😭
This is an awesome bittersweet ending.
When I first saw it I was disappointed he didn’t go with her. Now I think I understand that a purely happy ending just wouldn’t have worked in this movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. As I get closer to the age that Max is in the movie (I'm about to turn 48) this movie has meant more to me than when it did when it was originally released.
Most romantic kiss in the entire Universe..... 💜❤️🧡💛💚💙💘
This scene really more about whats not said, than whats actually said.
I love her lipstick on his lips 😭😭😭😭😭
I’ll never forget the first time I saw this. Shed a tear I was so sad
Max was smart to walk away, it killed him emotionally but it save him physically. Jackie Brown was trouble, from Go to Whoa!
I just realised that Cherry washes his hands, after being caught by Ordell not washing them earlier in the movie
ha nice
First time I saw this movie I didn't much care for it, and this was after absolutely loving Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. I initially thought Jackie Brown was maybe 30 minutes too long and kinda dragged a bit. But over the years I would periodically get an itch to revisit this movie for some reason and over the course of several re-viewings I came to appreciate it as a virtually flawless movie. It never puts a foot wrong. It's one of his very best.
4:30 you see in her eyes, she had the all the money she needed, but she couldn't buy love & happyness.
Huh...that's an interesting thought. I'd never considered that particular aspect until I read your comment. Thanks.
The best of tarantino, no doubt. And the best of Pam Grier
Tarantino's best film. This movie is one of the 5 greatest ever made in my opinion.
She’s a flight attendant and had been everywhere so you know it’s her favorite place. My little brother was a pilot for Delta’s for decades and yet he lives outside of Cincinnati in Kentucky, but they travel the world.
I haven't seen anyone point out in the comments that the ending is a masterfully understated cliffhanger. The very last moment we see Max, he places his hand to his face in a clear gesture of intense contemplation on whether or not to change his decision on the spot and go after her. Watch it again and see if you don't agree.
thats how the book ends, we dont know if he stays or goes
Especially because look at the car driving behind Jackie, it looks like his car. They leave it up to interpretation.
That’s the truth. Maybe he did go to find her maybe he didn’t. It’s up to us. I always felt like maybe he went to visit her in Spain once or twice years later. AT LEAST he can do that
I disagree, he knew she was gone.
The hand to the face was despair.
these 2 are the definition of chemistry , i could feel the romance even before that scene, i choose to believe they ended up together
I think I saw this very good film three times! Many thank's for upload! Cheers from a keen cineast in Sweden! We are not alone - at all!!! God bless!
Oh Max, you'd have loved Spain...This is my favorite Tarantino movie, it's
very plausible and well scripted...A cult classic...RIP Robert Forster...
Well if I was Max I would have phoned Winston & said "Bail Bond's is all yours, I'm outta here." Turn down going away with Jackie Brown, must be outta your god damn mind.
Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction are masterpieces. I prefer Jackie Brown over Pulp Fiction, and this end scene is one of the primary reasons why.
Absolutely beautiful scene, and one of the best movie kisses ever.
This movie is a masterpiece.
RIP Mr. Forster
Max and Jackie were soulmates for life, they were so in love, and shared a hot kiss on the lips, they should have stayed together