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Yo that coffee was NOT spiked...
Sounds like it wasn't even coffee 😩
Halfrek is Cecily from "Fool For Love"! Remember she's the 1 that told William (Spike) "You're beneath me".
Holy crap! You're right! Is it confirmed that she became a vengeance demon?
@@sousaetern1276 - I think their scene in this episode served as a confirmation that they're the same person.
@@jakelover1731 Word of God from the showrunners was that it wasn't originally intended but when they brought back the same actress to play Halfrek, they decided to add that scene as a wink to the fans.
No, she's not.
Indeed she's the same character and it's been confirmed....I love that this show tries to be consistent with the lore and the characters!
dawn is a teenager who found out she never existed and was created as a key to unlock otherworldly dimensions and right after that she lost her mother and then watched her sister die in front of her having sacrificed herself to save the world. now she’s being neglected by every adult in her life while not being able to process any of the trauma she’s gone through.
I don’t care how “annoying” some people find her, every outburst or angry remark she makes is 100% valid and none of the grown ass adults who hate on her would have handled her situation any better if they were in her shoes. also, for someone who has gone through what she has it’s a miracle she isn’t more screwed up and is only acting out by stealing.
A lot of people have issues with Dawn at least they did back in the day but the way I see it is last year nobody let her go outside alone especially after Joyce died. Now they don’t pay any attention to her, she keeps losing people and she’s 15. I do think Buffy is still the best gaurdian even with the issues because they love each other more than anyone else will but they all have to get help. I also think friends would help Dawn but I do think Buffy, for a long time, didn’t even want her to have friends or do anything in case of danger from vamps, then Glory. Its def tough. I feel for both of them.
At least she has Janice l
I enjoy watching mature Pat. His hot takes are great but hearing him say mature things is awesome
I'm starting to wonder how many times Spidey gets hit by Rana in one sitting lol
Not quite as many times as Chris gets hit by Nikki during Succession.
We need a counter
A lot. And shaken.
Did we forget Willow? She lives in that house and does not pay a bill. She needs to get a job too and pay rent. Why should Dawn get a job when there’s two adults in that house
Not to mention Buffy/Dawn's dad had better be paying fucking child support.
@@withxoutxlifehe should.. but they can't force him if no one ever filed for it. But if he was an honorable guy, he would at least send them money a few times a year. But they don't even hear from him that often
Willow should definitely be paying towards the bills. And when Buffy was in the ground, Willow and Tara should have been paying the bills. not just taking what was left from Joyces life insurance
@@reneeg9406 I agree
The title "Older and Far Away" is taken from a famous line from the novel 'Empire of the Sun' by J. G Ballard (you can actually hear Dawn's teacher mention "things Jim lost during his years in Shanghai, and things he gained" which suggests Dawn's class is studying the book.)
'Empire of the Sun' is semi-autobiographical and loosely based on Ballard's real life experiences. The book is about a British schoolboy living with his wealthy family in the International Settlement in Shanghai on the eve of the Second World War and then his experiences surviving in an internment camp during the Japanese occupation. Spielberg made it into a film in 1987 starring a very young Christian Bale.
The actual quote comes near the end of the book after the war is over and a very changed Jim is reunited with his missing parents:
"...Jim remembered his return to the house in Amherst Avenue, and his mother and father smiling weakly from their deck-chairs in the garden. Beside the drained swimming-pool the untended grass grew around their shoulders, and reminded him of the bowers of nettles in which the dead Japanese airmen had lain. As Dr Ransome stood formally on the terrace in his American uniform, Jim had wanted to explain to his parents everything that he and the doctor had done together, but his mother and father had been through their own war. For all their affection for him, they seemed older and far away."
Excellent. I am often amazed at the quality information supplied on the comments from the viewers.The episode title spins the episode differently for me now. Thank you .
Wow! Thank you for this info! Empire of the Sun is one of my absolute favorite movies! I had no idea that that was what this episode title was referencing!
Awesome insight, thank you !
Clem is likely my favourite side character on this show
I bloody love Clem! He's the sweetest demon ever.
He's absolutely adorable... As long as you look beyond the skin issues
I love that y'all are so down-to-earth and pragmatic about this. Dawn is a teenager, and teenagers are always hard work. With all the things Buffy and Dawn have gone through...surely this should have qualified for some social assistance from the community.
The community might not have any of that kind of assistance.
Food stamps at least, so they can eat something other than burgers
I actually kind of love the idea of a social worker/therapist vengeance demon helping abused kids. I feel bad for Dawn.
The problem with that is, being a demon, the social worker would solve family problems by simply killing the parents, and tell the kids "You're free now! Do whatever you want!"
About Dawn you have to remember. She found out that she used to be a ball of energy which really affected her. But through all that she had her mom, Buffy, Willow, Tara, Zander, Giles and Anya.
One by one, they all started "leaving". She went from being the most important thing in the world to almost being ignored. First her dad. Then her mom. Then Buffy. Then Giles. Then Buffy came back but Dawn wasn't the center of attention anymore. Then Giles again and Tara. Then Zander, her crush, is getting married. Spike pining over Buffy. Then Willow started flaking. In her mind, she was alone.
15:05 Spike wishes they did, or rather, he did back when he was human. Halfrek is also Cecily who told him "You're beneath me" in 5x07. I love this easter egg, makes more sense why she turned him down as a demon would certainly see themselves as superior to a human
I always assumed she became a demon later and that she was human then
@@chr0nic_stdsx382 I think the timeline is established later in the show, but I forget when.
@@chr0nic_stdsx382 In the comics, it was implied that she has been around at least as long as Anya, if not longer. Granted, that is if you want to count the comics as canon; it is in Spike: Old Times if you want to read it.
@@chr0nic_stdsx382 Actually Halfreck's alias was Cecily Addams. So she was a vengeance demon when she rejected Spike. Like in this time she was a guidance counselor and Anya posed as a high school student.
@@_DaviDivaD_ I need to check that out. I don't think I got much further than when Dracula came out
Halfrek is kind of... iconic? Vengeance demons are so fun to watch.
Buffy’s Dad should still be paying child support for Dawn.
Maybe, unless it doesn't work once Joyce died and Buffy turned 21.
In most states child support continues till the child is 18. If the custodial parent dies, support then goes to the new guardian. If the non-custodial parent dies the guardian can apply for social security benefits till the child is 18...
However.... I get the feeling Joyce never filed for support from dad for either child 🤷 leaving him "off the hook"... Although Buffy could probably file against him. But seeing how she likes him, yet never sees him, that's not always an easy decision to make. Would it help financially? Yes. Does she want more family drama/trauma? No, she's dealing with enough.... And who knows if the ordered payments would be enough to make a dent 🤷
@@alicequinn505 Legally a father has to pay till the child is 18, so when Buffy turned 18 it would be recalculated from 2 kids to 1. But.....making them pay is another story, especially since it seems hes traveling in Europe. He must have took his savings and booked. Maybe the "Dawn" spell didnt work on him the same since he's far away, and he suddenly was getting garnished for child support for a kid he doesnt remember, and the court doesn't believe him, of course. So he cashed in his 401k and took off.
"Buffy's Birthday" episodes never miss❤
Pat was quite insightful in this episode. Love to see that character development.
He'll likely regress as he tends to.
I don’t understand why slayers don’t get paid like the watchers do
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Tara is the only person all season we've seen actually take time to spend with Dawn. Willow nearly did once, but ended up dragging her to that magic crack house instead, where Willow left her for hours. Buffy hasn't made any effort other than being home one night when Dawn already had plans. I don't blame Buffy for not being good at this yet, or even for not being focused given everything she has gone through. But at the same time, Dawn needs familial attachment and direction. This has been a recurring theme with her all season. Buffy ignores her or prioritizes her other responsibilities and her affair with Spike, until it's time to rescue Dawn and then the cycle repeats. And I'm sorry, but a lot of this is Giles' fault for leaving when Buffy was suicidal and Willow had clearly gone over the edge and pushed Tara out of the picture. Leaving at that time really couldn't have been much more irresponsible.
Xander with his construction job, he's not the dad, and he has Anya to take care of. Anya with the magic shop and her responsibilities to that store. Willow going to college while trying to recover and not be irresponsible. Buffy working to keep the bills in check, fighting baddies, being emotionally tested by Spike, and oh yea dealing with dying twice and the latest death you were ripped from heaven and returned to what could be considered hell. During this time Buffy was 21 years old while Dawn was 15, not much of a generation gap, and yet Buffy is the one trying to be responsible. Guiles had one responsibility that was to Buffy and no one else, but time and again he has helped out when he didn't have to. He paid off the mortgage to the house giving everyone a place to live, he has put himself in the line of fire many times when his main job description has only been "watcher". Leaving is what all watchers do when their slayers die, but he didn't do that right away, he stayed and helped, give credit where it's due. Then we have Dawn, theif, self absorbed, does not learn her lessons, spoiled. Everyone has their responsibilities they need to take care of but her, go to school then have itchy hands. We have seen her time and again be (and I know that's the dynamic that was written into the show) in the center of her universe. Yes she is a good person in the fact that she's not out bullying people and actively ruining lives, but she isn't a good person in the sense that she does take things that doesn't belong to her, she shows that she isn't grateful since she stole from people that help her and take care of her, her sister died right in front of her and for her, and 6 months later she's back to screaming and yelling.
Their job is to take care of Dawn and make sure she's safe, not to hang out with her all the time. That's nice, but not something poor families can afford all the time. Previously, Dawn was shown to have friends. She can hang out with them, at an after school program, or arrange to live with her dad if she prefers.
While it's played as a joke I really like the implication that Vengeance Demons can be overwhelmed by their own wishes. For me I always took it as a sign the wishes are actually being powered by D'Hoffryn and merely channeled through his servants like Halfrek or previously Anyanka.
Or rather they just have to abide by strict rules, i'm sure D'Hoffryn himself is just a conduit for his dimension's power
I prefer to imagine it as spells like that being completely absolute. I like magic that works on absolute rules and not power levels, even if it's rarely portrayed.
I don’t think they clocked Cecily
The older I get, the more I understand Dawn's wish
Y’all cut out all the Tara reactions -_-
@tiamod- I know, I was really looking forward to seeing them react to the awesome Tara parts. The muscle crap parts were so great.
@@valinny8571🧊🧊🧊
"Uh, f**k teenagers" lololol
13:15 is Spidey ok 😂
I feel like you guys are forgetting that Buffy is working two jobs and only getting paid for one.
yeah...kinda like how society 'forgets' that women work a double shift but don't get paid for the domestic one 👀
@@RoseJackson1607 I meant as the slayer, but yeah i hear ya.
@@DaveH82 yes I know, I was pointing out how slaying works as a metaphor for unpaid domestic labor
@@RoseJackson1607 Ah, my bad. Thanks for clarifying.
*technically maybe 3 jobs if taking care of Dawn is one
I loved it when Spike and Halfrek (Cecily) recognized each other.
Buffy only just now noticing Dawn is having problems is another reason Doris Kroeger didn't do anything wrong and Buffy shouldn't be responsible for Dawn right now. Not as long as she is depressed. Sad fact is Buffy probably destroyed Diris Kroeger's career when Dawn has had numerous valid reasons to call her office up and complain. Does any of that let Dawn off the hook for stealing? No. But considering everyone else, and what they are doing and have done this season, it is understandable why Dawn acts as she did. And in terms of the stealing itself, Dawn is following in her sisters kleptomania footsteps as Buffy "meant to pay for that lipstick" in _Becoming Part 1._ The difference being Dawn's kleptomania in comparison to drug abuse, sex abuse, raising someone from the dead, etc. is a result of the other character's issues (as well as Joyce's death) rather than adults just failing to grow up.
Very few people ever realize Helfrek and Cecily are the same actor upon first watching, let alone confirmed to be the same character.
At this point Buffy is able to legally drink alcohol aka 21. There is a difference between having a biological kid at that age and raising a kid Dawn's age at Buffy's age. Either way, Buffy and her friends haven't been doing right in Dawn's regard, let alone each other's regard. That's why the theme of this season is the failure of growing up. Tara comes the closest, and even she only does so because she's cut ties romantically with Willow.
Dawn is fourteen and a freshman in high school. No job she gets would pay well enough to help out. This is another reason Willow should be doing so. Even though she is also in school it is both easier and more possible for her to be able to help with rent, especially as Dawn now has to pay back her thefts. There's reasons why everything this season gears itself towards the failure in growing up.
I'm not sure this quite constitutes a bottle episode. The majority of it was in Buffy's house, but there were moments outside it, and Buffy's house is made up of more than one set.
Pat is not wrong, the trio definitely launched 4chan.
Warren is the original incel.
KMSLMAO Chris' fuckin FACE @25:10 did me TF-INNN 🤣🤣🤣 He and Rana's constant Big Bro/Lil Sis relationship is often times the funniest shit I'll see that whole day 😂
Cleeeemmm! I love Clem. For a demon, he's utterly adorable and sweet.
16:30 "it's what they all say"🤔🤔🤔 i get it, and i agree about dropping the net... But (on a still addicted, but easier to break' level) how many smokers save that last one they had that they never lit? A minor reminder 🤷
I love Halfrek! Wish they had done a spinoff showing Anya's days as a vengeance demon, pissing off her boss D'Hoffryn, with Halfrek as her BFF
Anyanka didn't piss off her boss, she was a model employee.
Anya was the perfect Vengeance Demon, and D’Hoffryn’s favourite. He favoured her so much, it was a point of contention with other Vengeance Demons.
@@alicequinn505 Yeah, that's true. I just love all 3 of them
Dawn was forged, she had her Mom to keep her company, now she's gone and Buffy has no interest in being guardian, not after heaven rippage
Buffy is her guardian, though. She dropped out of college and got a job for Dawn.
"There will be no touching of the pendant!"
the worst of teenagers is that we all were like these to our parents XD
Whole couch for Episode 19 of this season!
Marketa's ambivalence towards absolutely anything Pat says has become more and more noticeable throughout these reactions 😂
Halfrek is of course Anya's friend and Vengeance Demon, this is of course the same actress who played Cecily in S5 who rejected Spike so cruelly. An interesting concept here of being trapped in the house, and of course the Richard character is thrown into the mix as well as Sophie, but make things worse. Dawn's Kleptomania now reaching extreme levels. It was just as well it was Tara that caught Spike and Buffy, and great little comedy with the groin cramp with Spike and Tara when playing cards. Dawn again being the total stroppy teenager causing all this trouble again, we know she is going through deep psychological trauma, but it is interesting to see how this affects others, which I think is what the writers were trying to show. The fact that Richard gets sliced by The Demon is also interesting as he is totally innocent but collateral damage because of Dawn's Wish. The Anya/Willow/Tara confrontation was great drama, it is so awkward too when Anya confronts Dawn in front of everyone about the stealing. A bittersweet ending with Willow and Tara reconciling, and great little comedy moment at the end when Richard says you have some strange friends. All in all a good episode mirroring The Wish from S3.
"Get out! Get out! Get out!" ----> man that was always so irritating to me. The way her voice squeaks when she yells it.
Very on brand for a teenager though. I remember screaming at people to get out of my room when I was feeling particularly moody. 😅
I don't think it makes sense to say buffy will learn to do better in some way, unless the day gets more hours in it it's not gonna happen. But Dawn needs friends and activities. She doesn't annoy me as a person as much as her lax writing does sometimes. Other times she's not as annoying
I liked this different side of Anya... even tho she tried to force Willow to do magic.
I can understand Dawn and the way she feels.
I fuckn love Clem
The Protein Bar? lol
I wonder if the writers knew about Luis Buñuel... Nah, probably not.
This is the episode one of the original youtube memes came from "get out Get Out GET OUT!" *buffy with monacle*
When there was the possibility of Dawn being taken away, she did listen to Buffy. At least to the point of having the 'mandated reporters' see improvement.
But she's still troubled and lonely.
Is she annoying AF, definitely. But she was also written to be a few years younger than she ended up being 🤷 she was written as a 13-year-old and cast as a 15-year-old.... The writer should have made adjustments for the age difference by this point. But they still have her lashing out like a 13-year-old
Buffy has been shirking her responsibility to Dawn ever since they resurrected her, and even before she died she was in way over her head. Dawn desperately needs some structure in her life. Buffy cannot give it to her because Buffy has to work through her own stuff. In a perfect world Dawn would have been put in foster care until graduation while keeping in regular contact with Buffy who would have been in therapy. Obviously, this being the early 2000s TV was never going to advocate for social services. Their answer to everything was Ritalin and consumption.
React to kalki 2898AD glimpse and character intros.
In 5 weeks hell breaks loose
It would have been funny if spike had a chance to tell cecily/halfrek that she's beneath him in some capacity...just to get her ass back! 😂
She's not, tho.... it would've sent a bad message i think
@@alicequinn505 how?
@@p-slayer I guess because she was a Victorian young lady, with pressure to be married, and she had the right to reject a weirdo suitor. Him telling her she's beneath him now would both be untrue, and would trivialize that scene.
Also, in some ways it caused a good thing to happen to Spike.
@@alicequinn505 there's rejection and then there's crushing. William didn't deserve what she said to him. She could've just said no thank you. He wrote her a poem...how is that weird?
Do you prefer someone that will treat you like an object over someone that'll truly care for you? Plus she became a vengeance demon so I guess she wasn't really better than anything and whatever man she chose broke her heart, so...karma!
Guys please react to windbreaker you guy will love it
20:23
Loved your reaction as always❤. You should watch society of the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
I love yo ur reactions but Buffy will never get welfare or assistance. Buffy does not want any government/faceless Authority to have any sway or say in her individual decisions or life. She is becoming the perfect Ayn Rand woman that understands what being a free individual means. This is part of the journey started in Lie To Me in Season 2. We all have choices , some are difficult but they are the choices we make. It would have been easy to stay with the Watchers Council but Buffy knew to take anything from an organization or government agency is to no longer be free but to be owned. When Buffy tells Giles and the Scoobys in The Gift the last thing Dawn will see is Buffy protecting her. This is also not just for her protection but her life. Keep in mind that Buffy does not take the way that gives up any power over herself and tries to never allow anyone to make claim to her being. One welfare check and she now has to follow a bureaucratic system of what she must do , act, and accept.
5 eps left
Oh God
Do you mean5 eps left until 'Seeing Red'? There are 8 eps left in this season.
@@WineCheeseGoats Yes.
@@WineCheeseGoats 🤫
Every time I watch Buffy reactions I always look for that episode because it is the most controversial and dark (in terms of a scene that has no magic but is pure reality) episode of the series
Its hard to sympathize with Dawn for most people, because a lot of people had similar or worse teenage years, and they didn't have a team of superheroes that fight evil on a constant basis around them. That's not to invalidate her feelings, but on TV it's kinda, not very fun. When we met Buffy she was pretty much Dawns age. So in this world, Dawn is too old to be throwing whiney fits as the show is presented.
In the real world, she is too. Buffy's not mean to her, they're good sisters, they love each other, and Dawn knows exactly why Buffy is busy. But they needed to do something for the plot, and Dawn just went through a bunch of traumatic experiences as well, so they had to do something.
The showmakera were really inspired by X-Men Jean Grey Dark Phoenix saga and they were slowly building upto this arc since they introduced Willow to magic and it was freaking glorious...the whole transformation from innocent Willow to Dark Willow was peak cinema...she's the real villain of this season and i love how this season ends with her storyline
Definitely trying for attention...
I had a cousin, that was a middle child, that was always looking for attention. His parents were decent.... But even from a young age he would do anything he could to get whatever attention he could get. Even if that meant he was going to hit someone with a baseball bat. He never cared if it was good attention or bad attention.
Dawn is feeling just lost enough to be in that type of mindset 🤷 doesn't excuse it. Definitely needs to be handled. But I think we can all understand, to a point, where she might be coming from
Halfrek always remind me of a Hellraiser character, maybe because she looks skinless lol
When I first watched this show I originally thought "ya know, Dawn is kinda growing on me. She was annoying at first but she's getting better." Then this episode dropped. And it solidified how obnoxious the character is.
Where the hell is X-Men 97 please react and watch X-Men 97 please
Dawn isn't even a teenager she like 2 years old as a person.
Plz drop War for the planet of the apes dying 2 see
This the episode I will point to for forgiving the Dawn hate. Also this is accurate to annoying teens.
Please react to the Batman the Animated Series episode "The Man Who Killed Batman"
Please react to Superman The Animated Series Season 2 Episodes 16, 17, and 18. These are the "World's Finest" Episodes. This is when Batman and Superman meet and take on Lex Luthor and The Joker. Its what Batman v Superman SHIULD HAVE BEEN.
Tara was the MVP of this episode, and you cut out all of her lines. Shame on you. Be ashamed and embarrassed.
errr wheres the planet of the apes reaction?
The countdown continues. 5 to go. Eeeeeekkkk
Plzzz Indian movie 1..puspa. 2..salaar
React to Frieren and people will subscribe hahaha
You guys gonna watch logan the wolf?
Why? It was absolutely atrocious, cringey nonsense.
You just know that Halfrek & Spike totally did the jiggy-jigs!
No they did not, as she said Wiliam (Spike) was beneath her
Hello guys, are you doing an Eurovision reaction this year? :)
I can't stand Dawn. I don't care about her being ignored. She's been obnoxious from day one of her arrival.
she’s a teenager who has gone through unimaginable trauma and is currently being neglected by every adult in her life besides maybe tara. she’s allowed to be “obnoxious” and even annoying. have some fucking empathy.
yikes
I mean yeah a common thing for teenagers worse of all when you realize your whole life is fabricated, your a few years old, your sister died, your mom died and now your sister is unraveling and everyone else is too busy to notice you’re there and need help
ok (wo)manchild
@@RoseJackson1607 Aww..... can't stand an opinion that's not the same as yours. Going for a personal insult instead.
Took me a minute to unsderstand the tittle on this video. Well played, normies. But I wont subscribe cause the video was late for my launch break (and cause I've been subscribed for quite a while)
By the end of the series I could not stand Dawn, I know she was written in to have those kind of characteristics. Clepto, unapreciative, always talking crap about Buffy, and selfish. She does have some redeaming points but way more faults. I can't go into more details because there will be spoilers and I won't do that to people viewing this for the first time.
"I wish everyone would subscribe "
Maybe stop giving us 10- 15 mins on an hour show.
20 mins is fair. Which ya'll do honor many times. It's just that ya'll aren't consistent.
And react, don't talk about everything BUT the show. THEN we'll consider subscribing.
Oh, so this is what being a youtuber is like -- lots of "bosses" telling you what to do but not paying anything either way... Cool.
@@LudvikM
Not bosses, fans. We like and subscribe for a reason. We have a say in our opinions.
@@sydneybristow5588 Fans would be nicer. That was (bad) boss talk.
@@LudvikM
Not at all. It's actually a fair assertion to their wanting more subscribers. It's not a cult..you can actually let them know how people feel.
This season might be my 3rd least favorite, it has some great episodes, but also feel like its a bit of a bore during rewatches
it's a soap opera season
@@josephirizarry5195 this is true
It's my favourite season by miiiiiles haha
it’s an objectively good season
@@lgbtorion It's also objectively bad 😂
Ugh.. dawn is so annoying
you’re annoying
she'll never beat you at bein annoying tho
Lol ok
@@camerontams1160 you're the worst, have the worst day
You seem like a great person. I hope nothing but the best for you.
Pat, SHUT UP