JMW should have been nominated for Younger Actress Emmy in 2009 for this, she definitely would have won! I’m so glad she’s won 3 Emmys since and has continued to blow me away as Steffy!
Phoebe is a beautiful woman you don,t desrve to died like this your sister is missing you so much. The bold and beautiful has loset a beautiful and fine Actress. Miss you phoebe may you rest in peace.😆☺😊😀😁😂😄😃😅😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😎😎😎😎😎😎😎👭👄💋💓💕💖💗💘💝💞💟👍👌✌👏👏👏👏👏👏👑💄👠👒🎂🎁🎀🍰🍫🍒🍅🌷🍎
I'm glad she's finally being given the recognition she deserves for her superb acting nowadays after all her years of being on the show. There were quite a few occasions during her early years on the show where she was nominated for Emmy awards but didn't win them- even though she totally deserved to. No matter what Brad Bell believes or tries to convey to his viewers, JMW is the true leading lady of B&B
@@sarahcorbo3659 I agree 2000% they tried they best to pass the reigns to Kkl after Susan Flannery left the show but JMW became that Queen 👸 instead even to this day , n she wears that Crown 👑 very well 😉 ❤️🔥
@@Scobster51 KKL is hands down an excellent actress- I'm not denying that at all, but JMW has truly earnt her stripes at this point (and that crown LOL). She won two lead actress Emmys in two years, and could possibly win another one next year (because let's be honest, she'll definitely get nominated and have strong predictions in her favour). She's also been voted BY THE FANS as the favourite B&B actress in the Soaphub Awards for two consecutive years (possibly three if she wins this year as well). JMW is clearly a fan favourite and a staple asset to the cast. I just hope she starts to get given storylines in the future to reflect her leading lady status as well as Steffy's best character qualities. The parent-trapping stuff she's getting right now (as much as I love her) ain't cute, and doesn't do her or her character any justice. If Brad wants to keep JMW on, he needs to start rewarding her for her talent, hard work and success.
Bottom line, Rick put all this in motion when he decided to go after Taylor adter Phoebe, then Rick went after Steffy. This is on Rick. HIs actions put all this in motion.
Sara Zimmermann While I understand the fact that she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt which caused her to be ejected from the car. It does absolve Rick. His actions put all this is motion. He had said that himself.
javon lambert Rick slept with Phoebe then Taylor. Who is the common factor there? Rick. It’s not a crime to sleep with other people’s family members, obviously, however, that does not absolve Rick of his actions which put all this in motion.
Sara Zimmermann Taylor did not set out to hurt anyone. With Rick, this was his intention to hurt Ridge and did care about whoever was in the crossfire.
00:06:27 My man, Ridge and Stephanie are here! Ridge Forrester: Styles is in trouble! Stephanie Forrester: Wilder’s got him! Eric Forrester: Oh no, Dawson’s got him! Throne Forrester: Karl Anderson’s in trouble!
Well Brooke those were Stephanie's words to you about Rick but you wouldn't accept it Ridge told you Brooke that Ric just wanted to hurt him and even today 2021 Brooke still allow her children to hurt people and get away with anything
Phoebe Forrester is solely responsible for his death, having entered Rich's car the boy could not imagine that the girl would make him lose control of the car. The soap writers are fantastic, they know that some people follow the stories but don't watch them if we weren't influenced by what the characters say but how the scene was constructed.
@@MrLJSykes411 all she wanted him to do was stop the car and talk to her and explain to her why he hurt her the way he did. But he refused to stop as she asked.
Rick was driving the car but it was not his fault I know the episode is missing but type in phoebe car crash 2008 and a video of it all comes up. She grabbed the wheel was clawing her face yelling at him then gapped the wheel and stepped on the gas instead of the brake. She jumped into his car yelling at him and did not put a seat belt on in the car so when the cad went off the road she was thrown from the car. Rick did alot to upset her that is true.
Stephanie, Phoebe is an adult, not a child that needed to be buckled in. Her not having the seat belt on is her own doing. Ridge actually killed someone why didn't you let the law handle that then???
Rick set it all in motion but it’s unfair to outright blame him for Phoebe’s death. She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and she was actively trying to run him off of the road. It’s absolute lunacy to attack someone while they are driving. Her death was her own fault.
OliviaBenson26 Rick was the driver, she told him to stop the car, he didn’t stop so phoebe became a loose cannon. Yea should not have been in the car in the first place.but like I said if it was Brooke or any other Logan, then the tables would be turned.
@@ladyd7188 Everyone needs to go back rewatch that episode cause everyone has their own version of what happened concocted in their heads. Rick was trying to stop the car but Phoebe kept on hitting him. How is he supposed to stop the car when Phoebe won't let him? He was trying everything he could not to get into an accident. I am no fan of Rick but he did not kill Phoebe. It was an accident. It was one big horrible accident. Something also tells me had that been anyone else driving, Stephanie would not be behaving like this.
RealTalk1411 its Stephanies granddaughter , she would do anything for her granddaughter, and like I said if it has happened to any Logan then the tables would turn
@@ladyd7188 I understand all of that. I'm not saying she doesn't have every right to be angry at the death of granddaughter especially in such a horrific way. Like I said it was one big horrible accident. It wasn't intentional. The same way Taylor running over Darla was an accident, this was an accident too. Rick going to prison isn't gonna change anything. That isn't gonna bring Phoebe back. You think Brooke wants to see her son lead away by police officers. You think she wants to see her son get placed in prison. No, Brooke is a mother just like Stephanie. I'm sure she wouldn't like to see Ridge go to jail. Rick is also Eric's son, your husband. You think Eric wants to see his son thrown in jail for something that was an accident. I will say it again, I am not fan of Rick. I don't like him but Stephanie went too far here. She went too far in insisting that Rick feel the brunt of the law.
Rick schemed as much as stephanie and as much as steffy would eventually do as well. However he is not the reason phoebe is dead, she took the wheel while he was driving
Sorry but they killed the better twin. Phoebe was so much better than Steffy. If Phoebe had seen all the disgusting things her sister has done shed be sickened.
When I die from my cancer my husband and rotten abusive hypocrites liars etc family will be overjoyed.... Everyone don't care about me hate me whole lot for no good reason...
@@lovelyvanessadorahill8585I pray you're still here, please tell me you're still here.....God Bless you I love you and feel what you went through.... ❤ 🙏 ✝
SFTV spare us all the whole 'we need to bond as a family' act. She was relieved this happened. She was probably upset that all 3 of Taylor's children didn't die. She is a hypocrite and probably had a party when Phoebe was killed by her loser son.
Rick is at fault for Phoebe death because he was using these women to get back at Ridge and break up Brooke and Ridge. Brooke makes excuses for Rick after he just admitted that he was using these women
Rick was never responsible for Phoebe's death! She cause the accident, got herself killed because of her foolishness and being delusional. These are facts!
How was she delusional when Rick had sex with her mother and traied going after her sister? She wanted answers and he refused to give them to her. He should've stayed behind and talked to her like a mature adult.
@@annemariewood-orourke5994 Phoebe acted like Rick cheated on her with Taylor and kissed Steffy while they were together, he moved on with Taylor and the part that he kissed Steffy was to get at Ridge ain't got nothing to do with her. The fact is Rick never cheated on her nor hurt her. She was like having amnesia of not remembering that she ended their relationship twice and made it perfectly clear their were done! She was hysterical, immature, and delusional.
@Sara Zimmermann All the Forresters are hypocrites and control freaks. Is no wonder Steffy, Thomas, and Phoebe couldn't have a peaceful, happier, stabilities in their relationships and in their lives without Ridge, Stephanie, Brooke, and Taylor interfering all the time.
@@sherell273 yes he did cheat on her. She walked in on them. How are you that blind and forgetful. Oh and Steffy herself told Phoebe that Rick kissed her.
No the bottom line is it was Taylor's fault for sleeping with Phoebe's boyfriend Rick Forrester she calls her daughter to get pissed at Rick that night and the getting that car when she wasn't even wearing her seatbelt and she didn't cause Phoebe to grab the wheel all on her own. butt Taylor Forrester is the cause of her daughter's death
You are rewriting this show. Rick is admitting it's all his fault. He is a sociopath. He wanted to hurt Ridge so he used his daughters. This is all on Rick. Listen he admits it.
Phoebe was okay with that relationship what she didn't like was the way it ended, she expected them to be married after she gave them her blessing. Rick caused this with his stupid vendetta.
A part of Steffy died when Phoebe died.
They were twins they were part of each other
She was never the same. She became reckless & wild for a while because her anchor was gone.
This is true
This is so true.
JMW should have been nominated for Younger Actress Emmy in 2009 for this, she definitely would have won! I’m so glad she’s won 3 Emmys since and has continued to blow me away as Steffy!
I'll never forgive b&b for killing Phoebe off.
They love to kill all the women. The list goes on...
Same here.
Phoebe is a beautiful woman you don,t desrve to died like this your sister is missing you so much. The bold and beautiful has loset a beautiful and fine Actress. Miss you phoebe may you rest in peace.😆☺😊😀😁😂😄😃😅😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😎😎😎😎😎😎😎👭👄💋💓💕💖💗💘💝💞💟👍👌✌👏👏👏👏👏👏👑💄👠👒🎂🎁🎀🍰🍫🍒🍅🌷🍎
JMW was a good actress even back then!
Nah. She's was not that impressive. You can tell she had to force every bit of tears and emotion. None of it looked natural or believable at all
she should have played dual roles.
i really feel steffies pain i lost my twin to cancer
So sorry to hear that,I hope she lived a long life
🙏🏾🙏🏾
I'm so sorry you lost your twin.
I feel for Steffy!
Me 2
Me 3😢
I remember when this episode aired I cried my eyes out so sad and tragic and heartbreaking
what a brill actress JMW even when young
Yep! Her crying still kills me
I'm glad she's finally being given the recognition she deserves for her superb acting nowadays after all her years of being on the show. There were quite a few occasions during her early years on the show where she was nominated for Emmy awards but didn't win them- even though she totally deserved to.
No matter what Brad Bell believes or tries to convey to his viewers, JMW is the true leading lady of B&B
@@sarahcorbo3659 I agree 2000% they tried they best to pass the reigns to Kkl after Susan Flannery left the show but JMW became that Queen 👸 instead even to this day , n she wears that Crown 👑 very well 😉 ❤️🔥
@@Scobster51 KKL is hands down an excellent actress- I'm not denying that at all, but JMW has truly earnt her stripes at this point (and that crown LOL). She won two lead actress Emmys in two years, and could possibly win another one next year (because let's be honest, she'll definitely get nominated and have strong predictions in her favour). She's also been voted BY THE FANS as the favourite B&B actress in the Soaphub Awards for two consecutive years (possibly three if she wins this year as well). JMW is clearly a fan favourite and a staple asset to the cast. I just hope she starts to get given storylines in the future to reflect her leading lady status as well as Steffy's best character qualities. The parent-trapping stuff she's getting right now (as much as I love her) ain't cute, and doesn't do her or her character any justice. If Brad wants to keep JMW on, he needs to start rewarding her for her talent, hard work and success.
he has regrets what he have become but still starting relationship with steffy and steals his father`s designs
Exactly. It was partly his fault. He went after Steffy on purpose to get back at Ridge which was part of the reason Phoebe was so upset.
Bottom line, Rick put all this in motion when he decided to go after Taylor adter Phoebe, then Rick went after Steffy. This is on Rick. HIs actions put all this in motion.
He’s not responsible for Phoebe death and you know it , I Remember Ridge slept with all Brooke sister, so it’s not a crime .
Her mother slept with Rick , she’s responsible for Phoebe death but you can’t blame Queen Taylor at all .
Sara Zimmermann While I understand the fact that she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt which caused her to be ejected from the car. It does absolve Rick. His actions put all this is motion. He had said that himself.
javon lambert Rick slept with Phoebe then Taylor. Who is the common factor there? Rick. It’s not a crime to sleep with other people’s family members, obviously, however, that does not absolve Rick of his actions which put all this in motion.
Sara Zimmermann Taylor did not set out to hurt anyone. With Rick, this was his intention to hurt Ridge and did care about whoever was in the crossfire.
Steffy is the best
I can’t believe I’m crying in 2021
Same. I still cry about Phoebe's death sometimes
Same here, watching again in 2024 and crying with Steffy.
00:06:27 My man, Ridge and Stephanie are here!
Ridge Forrester: Styles is in trouble!
Stephanie Forrester: Wilder’s got him!
Eric Forrester: Oh no, Dawson’s got him!
Throne Forrester: Karl Anderson’s in trouble!
OMG! Did i just hear that brooke said that shes got to take some responsibility 😳
It's sharking right and Rick was like no mom
Yet they never actually make her.
Well Brooke those were Stephanie's words to you about Rick but you wouldn't accept it Ridge told you Brooke that Ric just wanted to hurt him and even today 2021 Brooke still allow her children to hurt people and get away with anything
her kids deserve instant forgiveness for all their deeds but thomas and steffi are forever being raked over the coals for theirs
Phoebe Forrester is solely responsible for his death, having entered Rich's car the boy could not imagine that the girl would make him lose control of the car. The soap writers are fantastic, they know that some people follow the stories but don't watch them if we weren't influenced by what the characters say but how the scene was constructed.
No, Rick shouldn't have driven off with a very distraught Phoebe in the car.
Most people know not to do that.
Ricks fault and ricks fault alone.
Ricks fault alone? But phoebe attacked the man while he’s driving and grabbed at the wheel
@@MrLJSykes411 all she wanted him to do was stop the car and talk to her and explain to her why he hurt her the way he did. But he refused to stop as she asked.
Rick was driving the car but it was not his fault I know the episode is missing but type in phoebe car crash 2008 and a video of it all comes up. She grabbed the wheel was clawing her face yelling at him then gapped the wheel and stepped on the gas instead of the brake. She jumped into his car yelling at him and did not put a seat belt on in the car so when the cad went off the road she was thrown from the car. Rick did alot to upset her that is true.
@@annemariewood-orourke5994 Not true!! Phoebe attacked Rick in anger while he was driving. She pulled the steering wheel and would not let go.
@@MrLJSykes411 and she kept asking him to stop
Stephanie, Phoebe is an adult, not a child that needed to be buckled in. Her not having the seat belt on is her own doing. Ridge actually killed someone why didn't you let the law handle that then???
You wouldn't feel that way if it was your granddaughter
Rick set it all in motion but it’s unfair to outright blame him for Phoebe’s death. She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and she was actively trying to run him off of the road. It’s absolute lunacy to attack someone while they are driving. Her death was her own fault.
Eye for an eye Brooke at least Stephanie is not trying to kill rick
Rick didn't kill Phoebe!!
OliviaBenson26 Rick was the driver, she told him to stop the car, he didn’t stop so phoebe became a loose cannon. Yea should not have been in the car in the first place.but like I said if it was Brooke or any other Logan, then the tables would be turned.
@@ladyd7188 Everyone needs to go back rewatch that episode cause everyone has their own version of what happened concocted in their heads. Rick was trying to stop the car but Phoebe kept on hitting him. How is he supposed to stop the car when Phoebe won't let him? He was trying everything he could not to get into an accident. I am no fan of Rick but he did not kill Phoebe. It was an accident. It was one big horrible accident. Something also tells me had that been anyone else driving, Stephanie would not be behaving like this.
RealTalk1411 its Stephanies granddaughter , she would do anything for her granddaughter, and like I said if it has happened to any Logan then the tables would turn
@@ladyd7188 I understand all of that. I'm not saying she doesn't have every right to be angry at the death of granddaughter especially in such a horrific way. Like I said it was one big horrible accident. It wasn't intentional. The same way Taylor running over Darla was an accident, this was an accident too. Rick going to prison isn't gonna change anything. That isn't gonna bring Phoebe back. You think Brooke wants to see her son lead away by police officers. You think she wants to see her son get placed in prison. No, Brooke is a mother just like Stephanie. I'm sure she wouldn't like to see Ridge go to jail. Rick is also Eric's son, your husband. You think Eric wants to see his son thrown in jail for something that was an accident. I will say it again, I am not fan of Rick. I don't like him but Stephanie went too far here. She went too far in insisting that Rick feel the brunt of the law.
This was so so sad.
I remember this episode
Rick schemed as much as stephanie and as much as steffy would eventually do as well. However he is not the reason phoebe is dead, she took the wheel while he was driving
Rick is a Narcissistic Sociopath he is the reason Phoebe is dead. Rick wanted to hurt Ridge.
Sorry but they killed the better twin. Phoebe was so much better than Steffy. If Phoebe had seen all the disgusting things her sister has done shed be sickened.
Wow as a Logan is sitting her admitting he is a sociopath you are going at Steffy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Typical Logan Fan.
Rick is not A Logan he is a Forrester
@@Ilove2blog2 um no. He is Logan. He is Brookes son.
@@annemariewood-orourke5994 he is Eric’s son he is a Forrester phoebe Steffy and Thomas and ridge are all marones
He is Eric’s real son, he is a Forrester. Thomas, Steffy and Ridge are all Marones because Ridge’s father is Massimo
When I die from my cancer my husband and rotten abusive hypocrites liars etc family will be overjoyed.... Everyone don't care about me hate me whole lot for no good reason...
Don't feel that way,God loves you and so do I.
@@lovelyvanessadorahill8585I pray you're still here, please tell me you're still here.....God Bless you
I love you and feel what you went through.... ❤ 🙏 ✝
Put a sock in it Stephanie. You are selecting the facts!
SFTV spare us all the whole 'we need to bond as a family' act. She was relieved this happened. She was probably upset that all 3 of Taylor's children didn't die. She is a hypocrite and probably had a party when Phoebe was killed by her loser son.
Steffy is crazy bro Like what is she doing she gonna fall
She should have. Phoebe was the way better twin. She would NEVER have done the crap Steffys done
AnneMarie Wood-O'Rourke You don’t know that you don’t know how they would’ve written it differently
@@annemariewood-orourke5994 wow. Encouraging a character to commit suicide how good of you
@@bridgetsautner6093 it a TV show.
@@songriver1232 doesn’t make it sound any less weird
Rick is at fault for Phoebe death because he was using these women to get back at Ridge and break up Brooke and Ridge. Brooke makes excuses for Rick after he just admitted that he was using these women
Rick was never responsible for Phoebe's death! She cause the accident, got herself killed because of her foolishness and being delusional. These are facts!
Exactly
How was she delusional when Rick had sex with her mother and traied going after her sister? She wanted answers and he refused to give them to her. He should've stayed behind and talked to her like a mature adult.
@@annemariewood-orourke5994 Phoebe acted like Rick cheated on her with Taylor and kissed Steffy while they were together, he moved on with Taylor and the part that he kissed Steffy was to get at Ridge ain't got nothing to do with her. The fact is Rick never cheated on her nor hurt her. She was like having amnesia of not remembering that she ended their relationship twice and made it perfectly clear their were done! She was hysterical, immature, and delusional.
@Sara Zimmermann All the Forresters are hypocrites and control freaks. Is no wonder Steffy, Thomas, and Phoebe couldn't have a peaceful, happier, stabilities in their relationships and in their lives without Ridge, Stephanie, Brooke, and Taylor interfering all the time.
@@sherell273 yes he did cheat on her. She walked in on them. How are you that blind and forgetful. Oh and Steffy herself told Phoebe that Rick kissed her.
No the bottom line is it was Taylor's fault for sleeping with Phoebe's boyfriend Rick Forrester she calls her daughter to get pissed at Rick that night and the getting that car when she wasn't even wearing her seatbelt and she didn't cause Phoebe to grab the wheel all on her own. butt Taylor Forrester is the cause of her daughter's death
I Agree. And I Thought Thst zonly Brooke Can Sleep With Her Daughters Or Sister Husbands. Taylor Is Not So Saint too
You are rewriting this show. Rick is admitting it's all his fault. He is a sociopath. He wanted to hurt Ridge so he used his daughters. This is all on Rick. Listen he admits it.
Phoebe was okay with that relationship what she didn't like was the way it ended, she expected them to be married after she gave them her blessing. Rick caused this with his stupid vendetta.
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