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On today's video we are talking about the Logan Walker and where he failed as a protagonist for me in COD Ghosts.
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Well, Ghosts is apart of the OG CoD games. If you remember in CoD4, Soap doesn’t talk either & I believe that was because it was supposed to be a one and done game. At the end Capt Price died, Soap kills Zakhaev, & a war is prevented but the popularity of it caused the sequel MW2. Ghosts had the same thing but it wasn’t received with the same praise by us as MW2 for a sequel. The reason why the characters talk in BO1&2 was because the story was about Alex & David Mason, who I’m still hoping for a video on.
For sure we have a video on Alex Mason story... I need to work on one for David
MW 3 had a voiced mc tho.
Even then, telling a story as personal as ghosts is a departure from the series nonetheless
@@channel45853 OG MW3? Barely. Frost didn’t say anything & Yuri only spoke near the end. He more or less had a paragraph of lines.
@@Sun-Warrior1911Plus you only had Price talking in the very last mission, when he was originally supposed to not speak in that said mission.
@@noonesgone It only makes sense for Price to talk, he’s the main character. Never heard of him not supposed to have talked in the final mission tho. THATS HOW YOU END A TRILOGY MAN!! mwiii TAKE NOTES!!
Silent protagonists in call of duty have worked but in my opinion Logan needed a voice since he’s fighting along side his brother and father
I played this game yesterday after months 😭 it’s so fun like bro you can do survival mode and eliminate enemies as much as you can
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Honestly I didn't mind Logan not talking but it kinda did at one point and to be real with u I like protagonists who talk and have an impact on the us
I came as soon as you dropped the video. I did wonder too why Logan didn't talk at all. Even Kageen isn't this quiet.
The fact that ghost wasn’t in it kinda lied with this one haha
@@codm22712 for sure 😅
Ghosts are a totally different squad from the SAS. ....All of them make the ghost squad just like soap, roach, gaz and price make the taskforce 141....
Don't get it twisted
Cod ghosts was unfortunate to be dropped without a sequel
@@VESTER19STUDIOS yes I know there different it’s pretty obvious lol
What are you talking about it’s looked like are ripping of ghost recon because of the title
@@VESTER19STUDIOSyou mean the character who was just introduced and dies in the same game he just came in wow just wow slow clap 👏
My gta verse on Logan. Logan was born in Aquila. As a second child of Elias and a mistress of Elias. Younger brother of Hesh. Logan wasn’t able to talk until 3 years old. But despite that, he tends to be a silent fella when need to be. But he can speak. The silent protagonist of ghosts could’ve been a customable character who happens to be an adopted foster child of Elias and adopted sibling of Logan and Hesh. Make it a brother or sister: regardless. The events play the same. Tel Aviv war comes and Elias handles operation sand viper and it created team stalker or Ghosts because of Simon Ghost Riley helping Elias unit. With originally includes Rorke. Merrick. Keegan, Ajax, Scorpio, Wagner. etc, the ghosts team expand over the years with some original characters having to die or retire before the war of 2025. Logan plays a rebooted major role in where he must find his father Elias from a failed operation where he’s missing. Then he discovers about the story of the ghosts team his father told him and the siblings about. Logan concerns about the country at war against the China backed South American Federation. With Militech as the de facto real national army. With a US and Japan backed PMCs and Aquilan free state rebels. And allow the states to decide their sovereignty over Aquila City’s centralization. Logan originally cares about protecting the nation. It’s his home and wouldn’t care if the country sells out to foreign powers. But overtime, Logan decides to defend Aquila, regardless of its flaws post collapse. And Logan couldve been already a ghosts member by 2027. Instead of having him get challenged. His skills grown and would teach the silent sibling the same. It would be Logan giving his old mask 👻 to the sibling and Logan would get their father’s mask when he was killed by Rorke who is controlling the body of Rico Rodriguez. Aka Scorpio. Shot in the head and feels shock there to kill Rorke and then the sibling is the one who gets kidnapped as Rorke in Rico’s body made him invincible and near immortal like a scary movie slasher villain. And kidnaps the sibling to the jungle. With the numbers program used by Dragovich, El Gordo, Rudolfo Parra, and later Cerberus. By the Federation. And becomes another brainwashed soldier for the federation. Logan attempts to rescue the sibling but fails. This story leads to Ghosts 2.0 To be continued.
Actually I don't mind the main character talking, it makes the missions feel more alive and realistic, but the silent protagonist trope is still a very good one especially for Call of duty Cold war. Bell being silent doesn't only add mistery but at times it makes you feel that you don't play as him, you are him making impactful decisions and seeing that you have being lied to from the start.
But we progressed and matured after 2003 cod titles and other games from the 2000s
@usadroopymeat1099 The slient protaganist isn't a issue much I like
The thing is that logan,soap,roach,etc of CoD protags. Are actually heros,unlike Bell from CW,because if you think about it,he was ready to help perseus,someone whose isn't far if not the same as makarov (in terms of his main objetives),i asure you if they showed us what bell was before,not soo many people would think he's a saint like most do.
This point is a missed opportunity especially in a game like Ghost because the story is considered a story about family , and one of the things I repeat the most in any game is when the character does not speak
Don’t forget that Michell didn’t speak in advanced warfare during gameplay only in the cutscenes plus they can go back and give Logan a voice
Yeah for me it is even dumber when they make a character that can talk but just doesn’t while you play as them, like Soap in MW2, in all the other missions when he is an NPC he can talk, but when you play as him he is mute.
Mitchell only talks in the gameplay at the last mission
And when there was cod 4 soap he didn't have as much personality and he didn't speak either and then Mw2 arrived they gave him a lot of personality and I don't criticize that in Ghosts And I Love Everything that was done , Characters, the History, the lore, the enemies I basically have a great affection for this game, but if there was Ghosts 2 they would definitely focus more on Logan, than they did with the soap in mw2 , So I have to disagree with you, I understand that characters not talking are the worst things but that was obvious and I understand that in Infinity Ward
Who cares about what MW2 did?
MW1 is the one that matters and in terms of that game, Soap added nothing.
@@channel45853 Mw2 2009 l say
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Its alot of games that has a slient protagonist
@@Crispy_Kareem and they mostly piss me off
@@BranWolfYT I agree
I like your video but I heavily disagree with your take on Logan being bad because he is a silent protagonist. Firstly, I will say that I agree that if Logan could talk that he would have been better. Now to my main points as to why I disagree. To me this is a straw man's argument as every CoD protagonist we had before Ghosts, except for two, were silent protagonists. Now before I further go in, I will define what is a silent protagonist to me. A silent protagonist is someone who does not speak while you are playing as him. If he/she talks while in cutscenes but not in missions, then that is a silent protagonist. With that out of the way, the two protagonists that fit this bill in CoD before Ghosts were the Mason's. Both Alex and his son David talked throughout the Black Ops games, but everyone else, they were silent every time we played as him. All characters from CoD 1-3 silent, Soap and Jackson from MW1 (2007), silent heck even the 2 missions you play as Captain Price in All Ghilled Up and One Shot One Kill he is silent, Dimitri and Miller from WaW silent, Ramarez and Roach in MW2 (2009) silent, Yuri and Frost in MW3 (2011) silent. All of these characters were silent when we played as them just like Logan and they only talked when we weren't controlling them in either cutscenes or when we were playing as someone else and it is because of that, that is why they are beloved. By your logic Branwolf, Soap in MW1 (2007) adds nothing to the story and only does so when we don't play as him. Same thing with Price in two/thirds of his missions, cause he does speak when we play as him in the final mission of MW3 (2011). Infinity Ward would not have their first true voiced protagonists until Infinite Warfare with LT and later Commander Reyes who talks throughout the campaign and is a good reason to why that campaign is good. These games were made in an era where developers, especially for FPS games thought what the player wanted most of all was to embody the playable character and that the best way to do this was to make the character silent when playing as him/her. It was outdated by 2013 but that did not mean it was bad. Would Ghosts benefit from Logan talking, yes, but as it is I am fine with it. Heck, if we did get that sequel instead of Infinite Warfare in 2016, we would have had a talkative Logan instead of Reyes and everyone would instead refer to this game as "Yeah it sucked that Logan did not speak in this but it paid off later in Ghosts 2 and 3." like it was with Soap in the Original MW trilogy.
@Dar-oi3tw great points! I appreciate your feedback.
It doesn't pay off. Soap could have easily been replaced in MW2 with a new character and nothing is lost.
A game is a game, not its sequels. In terms of MW 1's story, Soap added next to nothing.
The problem with ghosts implantation of a silent protag is that the story is too personal for that to work. So the implementation isn't fine, it's terrible as it takes away significantly from the story.
@@BranWolfYT thanks.
If they would’ve gave a background on why he didn’t talk like when he first met the ghost and they questioned him like why are you so silent then Hesh says he had something happen to him when he was a child or something or was born mute I would’ve been fine with it but at the end when he’s getting dragged would’ve probably made people want a second one especially when they here I’m yelling for hesh to help and he can’t cuz he was badly wounded and getting left on the cliff hanger that we did they probably would’ve gotten more out of people if they did just my opinion cuz I still want a second one regardless if he talks I just want to find out what happened, and it does take place in 2027 so who knows we might get Ghost 2 around that time
I know a few people who wish the federation existed irl funnily enough, Mostly La raza types if you're wondering.
I want to find out what happened to Logan but I doubt Infinity Ward will ever address Ghosts again.
@jamescpapg I know it feels like they won't...
@@BranWolfYT I hope we're wrong and they're planning to address the ending.
Well, there was that scene in MW2 and wasn't the last mission of that game a reference to ghosts?
@@channel45853Maybe it was. Not really sure about that.
And i hope they don't,at least in their current status
Bran, you gotta make a video about the WORLD of CoD ghosts. Ghosts has a lot of story in the background coming from the rorke files.
Halo 3: ODST has a silent protagonist, and i think it worked perfectly.
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20 views 16 mins bro didn't fall off
Do you have plans to cover the lore of the COD Mobile comics? Never really saw anyone try and check that story.
@mrmillionman110 I'm not super familiar with it, but I can look into it!
FINALLY! For Once i have seen someone Comment about a TH-camr not Falling Off
Roach doesn't talk either in MW2 iirc
Yes, and that's works because roach is just some guy.
Logan is more important to the story than that and needed an actual character
Exactly what’s the point of the character if they don’t have a personality and voice for it
@@channel45853it’s seems pointless because we have progressed
the whole cod modern warfare trilogy characters doesn't talk during gameplay and it made me feel invisible because it doesn't interact or talk with other characters like mason in Bo1 and 2...and I'm so happy that Captain Price is the first ever character in the modern warfare trilogy to talk during gameplay
the real question is
why doesn't my gta online character don't talk
i get called silent creepy guy
i hope gta 6 online isn't like that
There are games that are doing the silent protagonist good half life,doom,the legend of Zelda etc
I love your deep dives COD lore! What would have happened if there was a second Call of Duty Ghosts?
@@Theradbrad714 a cool.new storyline for sure
It’s actually confirmed that ghosts 2 is cod 2026
Honestly, Ghosts was the very first cod game I played as a kid, the first 'mature' game I actually ever played, and idk why but Logan's character has always stuck with me. I mean, I guess as a mute 9-year old, to play a character that was inferred (to me) to be unable to talk was special to me and all. I do hope they do a reboot of Ghosts, or even just bring them back as multiplayer characters, but I kind of worry that it's going to be a Roach situation if they do reboot it, where they swap out some of the original characters.
The reason it doesn't work for Ghosts is because there's no relationship between familial bond between Hesh and Logan or their father. You aren't given a reason to care.
It also makes the ending meaningless, because Logan isn't a character.
There’s still a chance for IW to redeem CoD Ghosts, by making 2026’s game Ghosts instead of MW4, and even better if Logan could speak. But I doubt that since it’s most likely a Simon “Ghost” Riley background game, like Marvel’s Spider-Man series of movies
They should remaster the first game before making a sequel, only this time Logan needs to speak instead of being silent again. And the perfect actor to voice him in my opinion is Seth Green
What’s even sadder is that out of all characters you play as, whether it’s Soap, Roach, Frost, or even Yuri, only two of them had assigned voice actors, you knew what they looked like but didn’t speak when played as them.
When it comes to Roach, I get that he’s supposed to be like Soap in the first game, but it made him like nonexistent, especially towards his demise.
I also don’t understand the silence protagonist trope, is so stupid and it makes no sense. What I find even more confusing is that Call of Duty is a franchise that already used talking protagonists many times (like in Black Ops) but some they just choose not to do so, for reasons.
For me this is particularly infuriating on the last missions of Modern Warfare 2 when you plays as Soap, a character that was perfectly talkative in all other missions but now that you play as him he forgot how to speak.
This is normal in the old cod, cod 4 soap didn't say it, mw2 roach or ramirez never said it either, and ghosts was the last cod to have this, I think if there had been cod ghosts 2 Logan would have more personality, revealed face, a very neat origin and has an actor behind him, so this is normal in the old Call of Duty era , I would particularly like to see more of him, but I really like his mask, and he's as mysterious as Roach or Ramirez
Yeah I agree with you on this video when I first played cod ghosts I was just almost baffled and confused about it I mean what is the point of a main playable character if there is no personality and voice acting for it I’ve seen it before in early 2000 cod titles such as 1 2 3 United offensive finest hour big red one final fronts and roads to victory etc but that was when playable characters talk only in cutscenes
To be fair, COD: GHOST came out in 2013 that era was the silent protagonist.
Well Cod Ghosts needs a sequel and the ideal person who should voice Logan is Troy Baker.
Infinity Ward’s OG games didn’t have the main character speak eg Soap Roach Price although spoke in the end of OG MW3 same for Yuri when he was telling Price his backstory it’s actually weird because MW3 was the first Infinity Ward game where the protagonist spoke
I like the silent protagonist feels like I'm the character instead of playing through the character.
And it’s seemed pointless nowadays because we have progressed and matured
COD Ghost had a good story, although sometimes Rorke survived in an impossible way, but overall it was a good story. Regarding Logan's talking, it would definitely be better if he talked. Great video, keep it up.
And speaking of rorke he’s literally the definition of every ghost buster fan who literally watched and played every movie every reboot remake remaster etc every tv show every game I’ve always imagined seeing him wearing the ghostbusters outfit everywhere I see ghost busters it’s like a huge nightmare to look at no joke I would be traumatised for life if I see him with all of that
Think of how many cod characters would have never died if the silent protagonists said ''BEHIND YOU'' in the series
@@JokeyCWZ 🤣
@@BranWolfYT No but seriously I didn't have to go through on hell in ONE SHOT ONE KILL veteran if price just pointed at the crashing Heli and we didn't have to walk around with Stephen hawking McMillan
I'm honestly glad the days of the "Silent COD Protagonist" are long gone now. It definitely helps getting us attached to characters we play as along with supporting characters.
Um Cold War, Bell doesn’t speak at all
@@wyattbhoffman fuck I forgot. BO6 gonna repeat that trend too.
I'm a silent protagonist in real life.
I honestly prefer voices to the character’s we play.
Exactly we literally progressed after since what the dawn of the video game industry from the Atari Nintendo Sega Sony any other game company from the 70s 80s and 90s
cod ghost needed a sequel
"They're ain't gonna be any ghosts... We're gonna destroy them together."
I wonder if certain gamemodes from Cod Ghost would be popular if implemented to the new cods. With fixes, of course.
I think they would be
Have you ever tried infection?
@ItsMe_-lo5zg no I'm sorry I haven't been able. Get it yet
This is by far my most favorite cod
@@ChristianWilson-lp3xv it's damn good
Bran wolf what's your favorite cod
Not sure maybe Ghosts or Modern Warfare 2019..
@@BranWolfYT yeah mw19 is probably one of my favorites
Favorite COD
No what's your favorite cod
Bueno lo de los personajes mudos en CoD no es una novedad. Hasta MW2 no oímos a Soap, en AW Mitchell solo habla en las cinemáticas, hasta WW2 no oímos al prota hablar en las misiones
2:57, you literally answer your question for whyt silent protags are a thing. You might not like it, but fuck me it is funny that you literally give the reason people make protagonist silent and then call it stupid. You walked right into, and with the point, and then said "its stupid I just dont get it."
Exactly I agree with the comments and this video
@hammster72 that's what happens when you go unscripted I guess 🥲
Frost from MW3 is my favorite silent protagonist. The events he had to survive and endure was absolutely wild.
Just played the game! Perfect timing coincidently...