12V71 Detroit Diesel Brockway Cabover
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2020
- Enjoy the directors cut of this video I made for the BTPA TH-cam channel. A little more backstory of this truck is told through photos along with a few more video clips. As always, thank you for your support of this channel!
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0 to 50 mph. The best sounding 7 minutes of your life.
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@@Franceliakarlee living the dream
@@DumbCarGuyAww 🥰 that’s great.. hope all is well with you.. where are you from?
@@Franceliakarlee MN. And I'm hiding my super short non existent 130" WB 1948 International KB8-F stubby nose tandem fully loaded semi from the world 🌎 for now. In case you were wondering. LoL. It's a gasser.
@@DumbCarGuy ohhh okay
That sound helped build America.
Kickass comment
UUH RAA!
Hell yeah
You’re god damn right! 🇺🇸
I'm all for Detroit building engines for the military guess they underbid cummins to get the contract
A rare Brockway with dual breathers, quad stacks, tag axles and a buzzin’ Detroit diesel? WINNING!!🥳😆
Would be nice to see it restored. That Detroit sounded strong!
The perfect manly combo!
And hauled steel for World Trade Center. Even it's job was BIG!
That Brockway has Mack F model cab when Brockway closed in 76 Mack seen good opportunity to purchase their parts inventory and a lot of steel
Trivia: Non powered axles ahead of the drives are "pusher" axles, those behind the drives are "tags."
Classic, unmistakable sound of a 2-stroke Detroit. City buses, fire engines, and others, at least in Chicago, all had Detroit's in them when I was a kid. The sound and the smell of them was unforgettable.
NJ/NY the same!!
I love the V12-71. We ran those in our swift boats (2 engines) in Viet Nam when I was a Navy engineering advisor there.
My experience is in generator maintenance. That two stokes engine responded to load variation faster than most. We ran them at 1800 RPM. They were good for 300 KW
The 12V71 is a loud engine. I bet hearing protection was required with two of them running. They fired on every other stroke
A semi from the days when two stoke diesels were king. Love that sound.
As a Brit visting Massachusetts 10 years ago,I relished hearing the sound of these beautiful engines.
The Driver is doing a fine job running through those gears!!!
@Money Green damn straight roll on driver roll on 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪🤘
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He was double clutching,then syncro shifts...1st and reverse for that pesky clutch.
Yep, he’s pretty smooth you don’t have to beat the hell of’m all the time!
Clean.
V12 cabovers are already crazy cool. The fact that it’s a Brockway is just icing on the cake!
Who remembers the Brockway that the Black Widow rolled in Convoy?
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A cab over Pete with a refer on. Lol all that was good is almost gone. Never thought I'd see the day.
From what I have heard that wasn't in the script.
The director kept telling the stunt driver to take that corner faster and he finally rolled it.
They liked the look of the wreck so they wrote it in.
I keep hoping some day the extra footage from Convoy will show up.
Apparently the first edit was nearly 3 hours long.
I am told the entire town that "Spider Mike" was being held in gets destroyed by the convoy.
Imagine budgeting for a destruction scene of an entire town, filming it and the full sequence winding up on the cutting room floor.
Official story is all the extra footage was thrown out years ago.
I keep hoping someone smuggled out a full edit of it and took it home.
Stranger things have happened.
@@1978garfield That sounds exactly like the ending of Breaker! Breaker! when Chucks character and friends use their trucks to demolish the corrupt town.
Would love to see the Convoy town destruction scenes, but they most certainly did not survive to get digitized 😕
me that poor old thing
Driver who knew how to drive the truck properly, well done.
Love this. I live in the city in central NY , where these trucks were made. Had the chance to visit their on a school trip. This was in 1971. Was amazed to watch them go from frame to complete truck..we now host a Brockway truck show, once a year. Brocks from all over the East Coast come. As many as 50 to 75 trucks show up. Brockways and Detroit 12v71 can't go wrong. The plant is now long gone and has left a void here.live long Brockway.
Nice clean gear changes. That man knows what he's doing.
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Lol... the original idea with that 4 stack set-up was to try to quiet the V12 down... Judging by the way it sounds now, that didn't work
Not sure about that.... It's definitely quieter than open headers.
its quieter if anything
What....? I could not hear what you said. That truck sounds good doesn’t it!
@@P61guy61 if you can talk over them, they aren't running proper, and if there's no oil on the ground under 'em, then there ain't any oil in 'em
@@P61guy61 haha perfect reply. I swear if I were to read the warranty papers on that engine, the word quiet would be followed by "might as well give up. Not gonna happen"
"Attempt to silence a Detroit" 🤔🙃🤣
Fools errand.
@@Dailydieseldose315, had a 12V71 in a 70 KW cab over and never found the secret to muffling the damned things. Switched her out for an 8V 92 double T A lasted three years, went to 425 cat. Problem solved.
"Attempt" being the key word lol
That's anti American if not sacrilegious.
Thank you for refreshing my memory my grandpa taught me on a 71 Mack cabover don't recall the model number had a Triple Nickel Cummings on it he hauled Steel I starting driving back in 79 and still drive today but most of my time is spent in a junk throw away truck that wouldn't pull the hat off your head 99% of the so called driver's today would be lost in that seat. Me right at home thanks again
Only truck guys can see the beauty in this beast. Bravo!!!!
Rich Dorak smlllthkh
The boys now days will never know. All ford and cummins kids want to do now days is blow smoke.
Never driven a truck in my life and thanks to youtube i love them and their engines
@@loucam-l6214 don't have to have been a driver to be a truck guy. It's about the love of the machine. Thx brother.
Whatever Im glad hes driving it instead of me my Cabover days been over with I dont mine looking at them just dont want to drive another!!!
12v71 is a monster, I've had the privilege of working on one long ago
Detroit diesel, turning fuel into noise since 1939
And smoke.
And oil leaks
An turning oil the darkest black you have ever seen even though you just changed the oil
@@ureallystink1 funny you said that, I change my oil in backhoe three time within a week to try to clean up oil darkness, after a couple of hours, looked like it was never changed!!
@@hisexcellencytrump855 I was an AGE mechanic in the USAF and we had generators that were powered by a DD 4-71 and hydraulic mules powered by V6-71s. That was just the regular routine working on the flight line ready line. Fill up a 1 gallon oil can and check dip sticks and top em off as needed.
That was the joke "if it's not leaking oil some thing is wrong" lol
It looked like the gentleman driving knew what he was doing, dropping gears without the clutch, that's the way I was taught. Sounded great.
13 speed.
@@jamesschultz30 and your point?
@@livinginh , maybe I have to watch again. But it looked like he was using the clutch during his shifts, except between high and low range, 13 speed.
@@jamesschultz30 Thats what I thought I saw, his finger on the switch of the gear stick. But why even use low range when youre not pulling anything?
@@TuneStunnaMusic , I usually drive 10's. Have driven 13's. But when I did I only split the top gear or two.
Now that's how you drive with a Detroit!!! You don't have to rev the poss out of it til it rattles and pings in the exhaust.
This man is a true professional. My uncle had a 671 naturally aspirated in a 1980 Ford LNT9000 and it sounded a lot like this bad boy. This brings back so many memories.
I'm so happy this truck is being looked after properly and not rotting away and rusting away to dust like a lot today. I especially love the spokes!!!
My uncle Bill Stone rebuilt the motor in that truck back in the early eighties
Doubtful
@@HJZ75driver why ??
Its a Mack "F" model cab. Mack made and sold the F model from late 50"s till the early 80's. Brockway also used the Infamous "R" model cab. Still working at the same Mack Dealer going on 33 years central Fla.
I thought it looked like an old Mack
Mack also supplied this cab to the Canadian truck manufacturer Hays. In Canada it was known as a Haymack cab to truck drivers. Usually has a Cummins
NTA 370, or NTA 400. That was big power back in the day, but very thirsty. Peterbilt also supplied the Pete 352 cab to Hays. They did originally start
off with their own cabs. Hays where a well respected manufacturer of logging trucks on the west coast, as was Pacific. They gave Kenworth a run for their
money, as they also where a custom truck builder in respect to building off highway trucks. RIP Hays Clipper.
Didn't Mack own a controlling share of Brockway for several years? That's why they looked like Mack truck they used the same parts bin.
@@georgerenton965Its spelled Hayes, and they were no threat to Kenworth
@@tristanholland6445 I think so. I'll check the Mack 100th Year book I have and reply.
Man alive, it was a treat watching you shift gears.
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Hot Damn!!!! Just listen to that Buzzin Dozen!! And the driver sure knew how to jamb those gears! NICE!!!
The roar of this engine is too beautiful...
Fell in love with that Detroit sound when I was a kid! From the trash truck that came by every Mon. morning. sweet
I learned to hate it as a kid. 46 states and 6 Canadian provinces with my pops,between the noise and vibration I never slept a wink in that old farmall.
When I was a kid back in the mid to late 2000s , the fire truck that my dad and I worked on had a 8V92TA. Miss hearing her. This video kinda brought back a few memories.
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Music for my 👂👂 beautiful symphony 👏👏👏
Cool old rig and a dude that can actually drive! Kudos to you sir! I spent some time behind half that engine in the late 80's. Ran a GMC Astro 48 states & Canada with a Silver 6V92 with a 13 speed on 4 spring Reyco. DAMN.... rough riding truck that was!
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Glad that old brockway was rescued instead of being scrapped. Keep up the great videos.
I would just scrap the Detroit and keep the brockway drop a big BLOCK cummins or Caterpillar engine in it
@@ernestpassaro9663 why
@@maynardreed8374 why what I told the truth about Detroit diesels !
I hope this truck gets restored, as it has a lot of history to tell!
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I could just listen to that Detroit all day
You'd eventually need hearing aids. Trust me, I used to drive a 1978 White Road Boss with a straight piped 318 for 6 years.
US Engines the Best🇺🇸💥🔥🎰♠️🎱🎸!!! That's what I know altough I'm Bavarian.🇺🇸🇩🇪🖤✌️
me too !!! sick aint it !!!!!!!
Sounds like the crotch rocket of semi tractors! Sounds like it's doin 7 grand! LOL
What’d you say? I can’t HEAR you!
That buzzin dozen sounds amazing! My grandmother worked for a trucking company in the office in the 40s 50s and '60s and I remember her taking me for a ride in a brockway. With a 12V71 brockway used Mack cabs with a different grill and other changes. Great trucks Love hearing that Detroit diesel.
American Machine History. Good on you fellers for saving that old gal. 👍🏼
An unbelievable truck. Fairly clean exhaust once it's up and running which means the rings are still good and not stuck. It's a tandem drive with pusher axle in front I think.
Now if only she had a set of Jakes, the noise would be even more glorious.
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@@Franceliakarlee I'm good, hope you are doing good as well
@@danielseelye6005 yeah I am doing good thank you.. hope all is well with you... where are you from?
Awe the sound of a old 71 series Detroit I absolutely love them
She's a beast for real 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 it reminds me of growing up in the 80s used to hear that sound all the time.
The roads were alive with music back then!
Boy, do I remember these days! :D Go along for a ride in an old Brockway with the "screamin' Detroit" engine and a 13 spd. I remember going through the downtown section of Willimantic, CT with the '71 International cabover with the 8v71 engine as it would reverberate off the buildings, shake the glass windows of nearby businesses and people would give me the dirty looks like, "you're too loud"! Sorry, not my fault, I'm driving with as low an rpm as I can right now and its' still loud!
I remember when I was a kid mowing the lawn with shooting ear muffs on I could hear this one local Gravel companies Dump Trucks every time they drove by. They were the only ones running them old Detroit’s. Rumor has it that they used more engine oil than diesel fuel and went out of business.
@@RustyZipper I hope that Detroit is still around somewhere
Haha I kinda wish they were around on the streets a little longer.
Sets off car alarms.
My town highway Dept still has one running for a leaf debris truck in the fall.
I didn't hear it about town this last fall(I was busy) but I did hear it the year before.
Heavy oil usage was a real thing with detroit diesel engines.
71 series detroit diesel,if it's too loud you're too old
there is a unique and widespread attraction to cabovers...and this one for sure is a head turner...i hope to see more videos of this beast..i just love the look and sound..great video..
The most common trucks in Australia are cab overs .
Cabovers are still sold new in Australia
Unique exhaust note. On a boat, Detroit Diesels sound beautiful. Don't see them anymore though.
She's alive and kicking brutha, and watching this and hearing that Jimmy purr I'm now gonna watch my favorite movie into...... Convoy!!
Thanks for sharing, happy travels brutha 👍
Love old skool cabovers, especially Brockways and the engine sound is a thing of beauty
Old 2 stroke Jimmy's has that unmistakable sound! A 1271 was a fuel guzzler! That 14 liter engine got 4mpg while hauling 50tons of load or 5mpg empty!
I see those quad stacks didn't do a damn thing quieting that truck! Freaking love it! Nice seeing a driver on TH-cam that actually knows how to drive a Detroit without revving the absolute piss out of it too!
That's a sweet old rig
Man they don't make them like they use to that's for sure
Nope! Sad to say they don't.
@@Dailydieseldose315 everything made today is made like garbage. Nothing is made to last. We have become a disposable society sadly.
@Sheridan Isashitstain been in this business a long time before there was even a CDL. I've driven tractors 1977 R model Mack with no power steering no A/C that's how things were back then you just were used to it. Driving and backing with manual steering actually wasn't as bad as you might think. Only a really tight back in could be a challenge.
@Sheridan Isashitstain you'll notice when he was driving that he also had power steering
@@jjmoto65 77r model , could have had power steering and AC just the guy you work for was to f****** cheap to add it as an option
Nothing like the sound of a Detroit! Truck sounds like a beast!
That's the Bestys truck ride I done ever been on. That old boy can sure drive it too.
Damned if that isn't something every enthusiast loves. Looks strong still and sounds young. Thanks for sharing.
They are made to:
Last
Be powerful
Annoy neighbors 😂
Seeing it run bobtail it really doesn't have much power getting up to speed
Even though they're out of business they have a new purpose, they agitate eco friendly libtards!
YOU GOT RIGHT THEY ARE ANNOYING AND GUTLESS !
These libbies might not been alive if it hadn't been for these trucks! Smokalotive 2 stroke chugga lugga badass!!!
Dude they are TOTAL pieces of shit you are probably just a 4 wheeler who has never driven one !
I'm almost certain mufflers on Detroits are dead weight.
Ten four. But I used to drive a 79 Chevy bison 8v silver 92 . We tried running it with no muffler, and it was a bit too much..I actually woke up the homeless people.
No back pressure needed on diesel
@Terry Melvin I'm no mechanic, nor have I rebuilt one, but, have owned a trucking company for 25 years and driven even longer.
Unless one of you are one, I think we need a Detroit tech to answer the question on backpressure. But, I can read and know how to use the Google machine, which says little or no backpressure is needed on a 2-stroke.
And, the reason they are so loud, they are air cooled, no water jackets to quite the motor, and, since it is 2-stroke, no dedicated exhaust cycle, so, pipes need to be VERY free flowing!!!
I think they could put 12 exhaust stacks on and that motor would still be loud.
@@mikemascow8316 2 stroke Detroit diesel engines have water jackets.
@@danilehahn169 perhaps this one does, but, some 2 stroke diesels are air cooled. They can also run in clockwise or counterclockwise, which makes them popular in marine applications where a separate reverse gear wasn't possible.
I commented earlier on this beautiful beast, I just watched this again for the 1500th time. If you ever sell that truck PLEASE make sure it goes to a good home. Given its history to the building of the World Trade Center, it would be a great truck to display in a museum such as the Smithsonian, Brockway museum, or Mack museum. Heck, even Iowa 80 museum would be proud to show it I'd bet. It needs to be preserved with that history.
I could listen to that all day long 😂 would loved to driven that when it was made
I remember a neighbor had an old Autocar with the buzzin dozen . I think it was about 1960, I was about 6 years old and it hooked me on Detroit diesels.
What a beautiful noise, that is just musical, so impressed. Love it and more please.
Thanks for posting this . It made me smile.If I ever won the lottery I would set up a shop and restore these magnificent old trucks.
Listen to that engine ROAR. Wow.
I just bought a boat with twin Detroit 8V92’s. I hope restoring old trucks with these amazing engines doesn’t become my next way to spend money I don’t have!
Love the look of this classic - never seen 4 stacks on an old rig before! Awesome!
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Thanks for the ride along! Always wanted a V12. That's the way a diesel is supposed to sound!
Hauled steel for the Twin Towers. The Towers are gone, but the Brockway rides again.
Makes me happy and sad, man.
On a nice warm day driving through New Mexico with the windows down you could hear him coming. That sound of the Detroit sound beautiful for stack twin air. Holy shit.
Enjoyed the ride along. Always like hearing old Detroits screaming thru the gears. Stay safe.
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@@Franceliakarlee Doing well. Yourself??
@@crslyrn I am doing pretty good. Thank you.. hope all is well with you ?
Where are you from?
@@Franceliakarlee Illinois. Where are you from???
@@crslyrn California
“The quad stacks was an effort to quiet down the truck...” 🤣 that’s like trying to draw blood from a stone, trying to quiet down a 12V Detroit 😂
@Terry Melvin I like that bro that's a good one, and yur so right👍
@Terry Melvin Not the best way but the only way!
I love the sound of this truck. The quad pipes looks amazing. 🙂🙂😃😃
music. Music to my ears. What a monstrously beautiful noise :D
That's a really cool truck with an interesting history, and a REALLY cool engine! Thanks for sharing!!
This for video when I was a young kid 44 years ago my dad drove a truck like that hauling steel for artim if any rembers that company outa hammonds ind use to love that ole cab over mack this for sound and look brought back great memories
Rare piece of history running there….amazing
That's the Ferrari of trucks. Thanks for saving it. At the Grand Canyon the emergency generator for the south rim was powered by a 16v71 when I worked there. Only one I've ever seen.
Wonderful sounding piece of iron !
I new an older gentleman that used to work at Brockway Motors in Cortland NY , he had a name for these ..... The Cortland Vibrator.
My father had a 68 or 69 COE with a 318 and a 15 speed OOD . . Good memories. Thanks for the video.
I still have on my "Dream list" too buy a Brockway cabover despite being really scarce to find.
Beautiful.
I always was in love with Detroit Diesel.
I used to work on them.For while I worked in the gulf of Mexico.
The crew boat( tug boat during the day) that took us to work in the morning had 3X 12V71, no muffler.
What a music and the boat was at 45 degree on the water.
Sitting here smiling, sure do miss the sounds of those Detroits.
Absolutely beautiful sound coming from the Detroit!
IF YOU DONT LIKE A DETROIT YOU DONT LIKE APPLE PIE !!!
Don't like apple pie, I love it.
Also love Detroits. They sound incredible, they're what America sounds like lol.
Michael Sorrentino Amen to that!
I like both but I don't see how someone's preference in engines and preference in pie are related in any way at all.
Detroit is a shithole and Apple pie is disgusting
@@flamecranium7787 you do live up to the nick name.
That’s they way diesel should sound. Busy, authoritative, and smooth.
Sounds so good, we all dream about having fun like that.
It looks like something that should have been in Mad Max :D
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Simply badass! This thing burns diesel fuel and turns it into music! When I was a kid my dad had a late 70s international Transtar that had either a 6v92 or an 8v92, I can't remember which, and it has a 13 speed road ranger. He had a mobile home pulling business and as a kid I went with him and helped out all I could... It was awesome! Anyways, great video! I'm glad the truck was rescued, it's definitely a beast!
Most of today's so-called truck drivers have no idea how to drive a 13 or 18 speed tyranny.
Ich habe diese Video jetzt schon 20 mal und mehr gesehen und kann von dem Motorsound nicht genug bekommen .Detroit Power 💪
Sweet old Brockway, sounds amazing
"the quad exhaust was an effort to make the truck look cool as hell for the streets of Manhattan".. Fixed it for you! :D I wonder if I'd be allowed any 2 stroke Detroit diesel vehicle to play with in the UK? Especially seeing as I'd want a Jake brake...
Sorry for the intrusion, back to playing Truck Simulator! :)
HA, not before I get my grubby mitts on one!... If you do manage to acquire such a vehicle, do let me know (a drive by should serve!)
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Lol i have a 12v71 detroit powered pete352 in the uk .
When your engine is too loud to where you gotta wear earplugs lol
Thank u for bringing that ICON back to life!!
I always liked the older COEs, especially with the old Dayton type wheels... This old custom heavy duty Brockway is even rarer!
Love the quad stacks! Fantastic sound!
"Pass everything but the fuel island in that beast" Still, I LOVE IT! I would love to make just one run in that beast, the other drivers at a rest stop or Love's would hate my azz when I pulled in to rest at 3 am. Thank you for waking that beast up from its long sleep. Bonus: its a good looking truck! It cleaned up nicely.
The did great on flat ground but when you pulled mountains it seemed like you never had enough gears
@@MultiCrusher2 I used to drive a 1978 White Road Boss years ago, 318 Detroit powered. If I had to go to the Delaware water gap area in NJ, it was even more gutless on the hills.
@@kman-mi7su I drove a lot of 318s in NH pulling 80000 plus.They did the job but it took a while.My right arm sure did get tired.Ever run a 6-71? went to Water Gap years ago.Nice country.
Love that Truck! That driver with the big belly fits into it perfectly too!!
This man is True driver and this Brockway is just absolutely awesome , big Detroit 12 v , Tag axel, geared 4.62 " Wow "😮
Love to hear and see a great truck back on line!! Great job bringing her back to life!!!
Man I would love to take that for a spin
Me too😋🔥💥🎱👼👼😉
@@manfredkallmeier5364 I already did in my dream last night....😁
No you wouldnt, very uncomfortable
Joe dirte lol I meant like maybe around a block not 100 miles i here you though I still remember that old auto car I cut my teeth with pulling a 5 axle dump only good time was loaded
12V71 is one of the most reliable diesel engines ever produced.
Driver has mastered the double clutch.
Best Brockway I've ever seen
Swing by the brockway show in cortland,ny sometime
The quad exhaust was neat
She helped to build, and then outlived the WTC. Beautiful machine !
What a beautiful sound! I miss not hearing them. ❤️😎👍🏻🇺🇸
It just goes to show, you can't quiet a Detroit.
Dixie farmboy yesyoucan turbocharged the b**** cuts the noise down to less than 1/2
@@Sid-xx4bz bushet
*shouldn't
@@CoalChrome not bulshit fact, it's what turbos do to any internal combustion engine gas or diesel 2-stroke or 4-stroke and the size don't matter either.
@@Sid-xx4bz I've heard that before. Apparently the reason that IH sold the 1206 with straight pipes.
Seems SO nice to see history and appreciation for our trucking heritage. Thank you for posting Much better than that clown Bruce Wilson who obviously has no clue about older trucks.
Beautiful old truck and that Detroit...classic rock and roll
One badass truck. Keep on jam them gears.
The first I ever drove was a 1962 62 GMC " crackerbox" cabover with a 238 Detroit.