How to modify the gears and motor in power wheels. DIY modifications to improve speed, acceleration and torque. Improving three models of power wheels.
singlecams I have been doing them for years for my nephews Now it's time for my kids so down the rabbit hole I go as we got some competition on the street
Nice!! I didn't know there were upgrade parts for the either. We just sold my granddaughter's PW, but that's because she was too tall for it. Can you do a short vid of the performance difference between a stock and juiced PW? :) Very cool!!!
Haha, so many "DIY" vids that eventually say "so i put it in my cnc" or "i made an adapter on my 3d printer". I use a drill and dremel when i can like the other guy said
Awesome video! I have a question. I built my daughter's power wheels Jeep to 12v switchable to 24v and back parallel 😎 used 2 12v 18ah big boys under the seat. What motor would be perfect? I would like it to be as fast stock motor on 24v. So when on 12v it's still same or slightly faster. Thank you for any help. Cheers!
Does the center pinion shaft work it’s way out through the small hole you drove the original pin out of with the punch? Seems with out locktite or a set screw on the bushings it could work it’s way out
@@mikesheely5599 Motor to first gear is high rpms off motor; second to third gear has a great reduction in rpms so there is less torque on the gears. Therefore they can handle the forces on them and do not need to be upgraded.
@@mikesheely5599 the electric braking system is what would want to break the first gear tooth, with increased voltage and increased speed throughout the gear box, when the kids lets off the accelerator it will try to instantly stop the gear box and first gear will break….which is not needed in a performance power wheel application. (I would never run a metal gear in a one of these gear boxes) Now stripping a stock power wheels first gear tooth is normally done by increasing the voltage and the increased friction on the gear shaft melts the plastic housing allowing the pin to move away and now the gear strips out. Installing roller bearings in the plastic gears resolves this issue as next would be to install a esc.
Looks like the. Shaft that u installed the new gear and the bearing. Is going to pop out. Through the side u used the tool to punch out the old shaft. Because the diameter is smaller than the old shaft and with the friction little by little looks like is going to pop out of place and fall out through the gear box ?
Perhaps, you could have just bought a couple of extra bearings, instead of the metal bushing. It might have worked as well, for those without the capability to make their own bushings.
Power wheels cars has DIFFERENT gear ratios and different Internal gears. The Porches has 17T Pinon.............13" outside dia wheels The Mustang or Lighting has 19T....11" od wheels ( gear box in video) The C7 corvett has 23T pinon.........10" od wheels (smaller pin for gears) I have different powerswheels....ALL of them have DIFFERENT gearbox,lol Not all brushed motors are the same....due to size , wining. magnets. more RMP = LESS TORQUE....( lower Turn whining such as 10T has more torque)..Stock power wheels are 12T...( 12-18V) You can run stock set up on 18V on pavement ( the back wheels spinning less grip...acts like slipper clutch...so it wont damage the gears. If you install 770 motor ( BIGGER..to handle the 24V) You need to install 23-25T PINON...770 has LOWER RPM. 770 also has bigger SHAFT diameter. ( stock pinon wont fit) ML TOYS SUCK with customer service..... MOST PARENT..dont know about different power wheels SPEC , different gearbox or even understand the electric motors ratings... to ask for the correct parts they need.... MLTOYs...customer service....dont HELP YOu must take the gearbox you have apart...to KNOW exaclty what you're dealing with. It depends on the kids/ weight. ( kids will be kids)..some bounce on it...when they're driving..lmao. Anyways....it's the gripping on grass or slamming in the cars to reverse that will strip the gear... ( the TWO GEARS in the CENTER...are what strips on mine.lol) Not the one he's replacing.lol FU$K THat...They want $40 -ea just for that gear..you need 2-ea.. but you'll still need the other gears...(money pit) It's cheaper to just purchase USED POWERPOWER wheels to replace gearbox....out just get different used power wheels...every 2-3 months.. It depends on the kids...Some out grow it..becuase stock arnt fast.. Or just install 24-36 500 WATT SCOOTER motors live axle or 48V 1000watt for the older kids... Bascailly convert it into a Go kart.. ( 10-20 mph) You dont have run it on 48v.....There's speed ( governers) on ESC. The cars go as fast as i wat them to go...( I install the batteries.lol) So they can drive it...until they're 10-12 year old. It's a $250 investment...but it's worth it. Or just do kids go kart conversion..you can get used kids racing go kart form $300-$500..you dont need it working. The gas motors (NOISE) will PISS off the Nieghbours. just install 1800-2000watt BRUHSLESS motors. ( $150) YOu dont need it that fast....until they're 12 years old.lol If you have the motor/ live axle....you can swap it to different wack/hack powerwheels cars...( my grand kids are spoil....they like to dive different cars)..lmao It's just the BODY.... My grand kid havnt out grown them...becuase I make Them FAST and fun to drive..The 20 month old is on 18v LIPO or 24 lion....doing donuts and power slide...even she wont drive in on 12V...lmao
Sorry I'm not sure where to order the gears I know how to do pretty much everything else I'll learn but Need to order those gears for my earboxes Have a Jeep and 2 lamborghini's kids or kids are 2 and 5 son drives his lamborghini to school sometimes
Well shucks...How do we normal dads get our hands on a piece like you made with the two large bearings that fit with the little bearings? I'm thinking we need a 3d printed gear that fits with the factory shaft and bolt and then somehow fits into the circular metal gear piece. Someone make this. I will provide you a drawing :-)
Dave Prototype ..ive done that..it stripped the steel gears!!!...to much heat from spinning the rpm i was spinning...right at 45,000 rpm..it had the plastic tires without the traction grips..i personally think the plastic gears handle the heat better..but with any type of traction , they will definitely strip faster..
Dave Prototype ...in fact im now going to modify mine to accept a pocket bike 47cc 2 stroke motor..also use the front and rear disc brakes from same pocket bike to stop..
Unfortunately that is one of the hidden monsters of upgrading. Pit crew always have repairs. Can be expensive. As he states he has three different rides or back up rides.
With three boys the projects come and go fast; unfortunately we never got to video part 2. Maybe in the future as my friend has a young boy and we might revisit this mod.
It's been years and still no one builds a full metal gearbox. It looks like the kids would ride on plastic and by the time they need metal they outgrow the car.
@@daveprototype6079 What if we designed a 3d printable gearbox housing that used out of the shelv metal gears, at less than $100 per box I think it could attract a good crowd of makers, making it all open source.
Is this video just to show how cool you are that you can make your own Parts? I fail to see the point in watching a 10 minute video where you slowly unscrew/screw and provide bleeding detail about how to do all the obvious things and then quickly gloss over that you made some parts and not providing any specs on how you created or acquired those parts that really seem to be essential. Possibly you didn't think this through very well as or may be very obvious to you how "to make this part that just fits in here"
Hi, sir i am making a wind turbine. I want to make 3000 output rpm to 30 input rpm compound gearbox but i have very little knowledge about gears could you pls help me to make this project.
Glad to see you taking up new hobbies, HBK
Yes, always looking for something to do
So awesome. I'm so happy that now I get to have brand new fun with my son and his 1st build.
Hopefully your build was fun, my kids loved it
I’m not gonna lie I loved the background reading while waiting for certain tasks to be completed
that's awesome
ha i didnt know people are modifying power wheels and they have metal replacement gears i'm going to watch the videos now :)
singlecams
I have been doing them for years for my nephews
Now it's time for my kids so down the rabbit hole I go as we got some competition on the street
Lalalal what lindo of vídeo is this and who are you
Who aré you real y
You, my friend, are freaking awesome!!!
Thanks
My kids liked the upgrades
You're an awesome father.
Your helper looks like he’s got that hammer ready!
He is always ready with the hammer
LOL
Nice!! I didn't know there were upgrade parts for the either. We just sold my granddaughter's PW, but that's because she was too tall for it. Can you do a short vid of the performance difference between a stock and juiced PW? :) Very cool!!!
Its on the to do list; along with some tacometer readings for motors and power curves.
Cool....I'll try to keep an eye out for it.
Great info
Thanks
I'm glad I'm not the only dad who has to dodge hammers.
Yes; helpers can be dangerous
So I guess once I buy a lathe to turn down shafts and bushings this is pretty diy
LOL you can use the shanks of drill bits they are cheap
lol
Haha, so many "DIY" vids that eventually say "so i put it in my cnc" or "i made an adapter on my 3d printer". I use a drill and dremel when i can like the other guy said
Awesome video! I have a question. I built my daughter's power wheels Jeep to 12v switchable to 24v and back parallel 😎 used 2 12v 18ah big boys under the seat. What motor would be perfect? I would like it to be as fast stock motor on 24v. So when on 12v it's still same or slightly faster. Thank you for any help. Cheers!
MLtoys has good upgraded motors or look online remote control motors
Thanks
Glad you liked it
Great information!
Thanks
Does the center pinion shaft work it’s way out through the small hole you drove the original pin out of with the punch? Seems with out locktite or a set screw on the bushings it could work it’s way out
no it is larger than the hole; it will not work its way out
How long did this set up last. Stage 1 or 2 cost a pretty penny.
dave do the include the shafts, bearings and everything needed ? or did you have to get those bushings yourself.
they supply all that is needed
Would you be able to tell where you got the parts to make the new shaft? I’m running into the same problem 🤦🏼♂️
Any issue with the new metal gear stripping the secondary nylon gear? Cool video, thanks man.
no there has been no issue; the metal gear replaces the one the newer motors would strip
Dave Prototype prob a dumb question- but why doesn’t the first gear strip the second and so on? Why not make all of the gears metal?
@@mikesheely5599 Motor to first gear is high rpms off motor; second to third gear has a great reduction in rpms so there is less torque on the gears. Therefore they can handle the forces on them and do not need to be upgraded.
@@mikesheely5599 the electric braking system is what would want to break the first gear tooth, with increased voltage and increased speed throughout the gear box, when the kids lets off the accelerator it will try to instantly stop the gear box and first gear will break….which is not needed in a performance power wheel application. (I would never run a metal gear in a one of these gear boxes) Now stripping a stock power wheels first gear tooth is normally done by increasing the voltage and the increased friction on the gear shaft melts the plastic housing allowing the pin to move away and now the gear strips out. Installing roller bearings in the plastic gears resolves this issue as next would be to install a esc.
@@kkustomz1 not what I wanted to hear but probably what I needed to hear...✅
Where do you get the shaft for the gears or did you custom make it yourself???
I used the smooth end of a drill bit..
Links to what metal gears you ordered, please
How’d you get the pinion gear to stay on the new motor with all that torque?
Its is a press on fit
Did you get that special skinny pinion with the 2 thicker ends from mltoys also? What's is called? Thanks!
no i made it
How did you make the larger diameter fitting to fit the small center shaft?
Looks like the. Shaft that u installed the new gear and the bearing. Is going to pop out. Through the side u used the tool to punch out the old shaft. Because the diameter is smaller than the old shaft and with the friction little by little looks like is going to pop out of place and fall out through the gear box ?
no it is being retained in place; it has been in use for many hours without fail.
@Dave Prototype where can I get the new smaller shaft and bushings?
I cut the shaft of a drill for the shaft and made the bushings
@@daveprototype6079 ok thank you.
where do find those gears for a best choice products jeep? my son keeps burnig up the plastic ones
I got mine from MLtoys.com try them
Where did you get the metal gear replacement from? Been looking for one but can't find one that matches
MLToys.com
can these mods be done to other kids motorized vehicles or these strictly power wheels brand
Yes they can be done to most ride on vehicles
Where would you be able to order the gear assembly?
ML toys on line
@@daveprototype6079 what about the pieces that adapt the metal gears to the larger hole?
@@danieljones2435 not sure what your asking this project was some time ago for me
Cool DAD!! Tweaking The Power Wheels For More POWER & Letting Little Man Get Tattoos At An Early Age!! Haha!!
Early age? His kid is like 18.
Good times
Where do you get the nylon bushings?
I believe I made them.
where did you get the new motors?
I got them off ebay just 12v motor $10
Dave Prototype kool thanks man. do you happened to have a link for them.
U can make them scary fast easily...
yes but other parts wear out; best to get spares early. Kids do not like down time ;)
Is these parts are available in Flipkart order
Where did you order that gear? I’m trying to make my nieces 4wheeler go fast.
ML toys on line
Donde lo puedo cosegir ??
Where did you get those metal gears from?
MLToys.com
What did you make the bushings out of?
delrin plastic
@@daveprototype6079 Hah, I bet I could fashion some myself. Thanks!
Where do you buy the metal gears?
www.mltoys.com
Perhaps, you could have just bought a couple of extra bearings, instead of the metal bushing. It might have worked as well, for those without the capability to make their own bushings.
I know this is old but need to ask. Why wouldn't you replace all the plastic gears with metal?
There is no need too; this is the only gear that gets damaged with the initial torque going through this gear.
Ok cool
thanks for watching
cheers
Looks to me like the pin isnt long enough and might slide off one of the bearings in the case?
I had no issues; everything fit like it should.
How i find those modified parts?
Mltoys on line
What type of grease is in there?
Standard white grease
Why is Andy Dufrane modifying power wheels?
Lol
Guess he needed the money ;)
Where are you buying your parts. I just burnt up my kids wrangler and want to upgrade motors but I am running a 18v battery
mltoys.com
Can you put rc car motors in there? The 5th scale motors
These motors look similar: I believe you could. Just watch the rpm some motors are slower because they are not reduced as much for RC cars.
Can u let me know if u can make metal gears for a moderno kids car bez sls
Yes but they would be expensive
@@daveprototype6079 how much is expensive
Can youplease give us the links for this
I'm thinking these are the gears he used, with some fabrication of course.
www.mltoys.com/Power-Wheels-Metal-Gears-s/121.htm
www.mltoys.com
Where can I buy the steel gears and bearings?
I got mine from www.mltoys.com
Spacelys Sprockets or Cogswell Cogs
Carlos Blaise
Lmao a Jetsons reference. I actually looked those companies up. Good one
can you tell us where you get those gears ?
Mltoys on line
where'd you get the gears?
MLToys.com
Where to get these metal Gears 😢 please provide any links ❤
MLtoys.com
Where can I get the steak gear and spacers m, barrings?
MLtoys.com
How or what material did you use to make the shaft bushings ? Thanks
Would it not have been easier to open up the ID of the gear to match the factory pinion size. The added diameter would increase strength as well
If I were to do another one I might try that. Good idea
Thanks
Then the needed od of the roller bearing would be larger than room in the metal gear on the small side.
Where do u order the parts?
MLtoys.com
Where can I get the steel gear ?
MLToys.com
Do these come already assembled from ml toys?
Power wheels cars has DIFFERENT gear ratios and different Internal gears.
The Porches has 17T Pinon.............13" outside dia wheels
The Mustang or Lighting has 19T....11" od wheels ( gear box in video)
The C7 corvett has 23T pinon.........10" od wheels (smaller pin for gears)
I have different powerswheels....ALL of them have DIFFERENT gearbox,lol
Not all brushed motors are the same....due to size , wining. magnets.
more RMP = LESS TORQUE....( lower Turn whining such as 10T has more torque)..Stock power wheels are 12T...( 12-18V)
You can run stock set up on 18V on pavement ( the back wheels spinning
less grip...acts like slipper clutch...so it wont damage the gears.
If you install 770 motor ( BIGGER..to handle the 24V)
You need to install 23-25T PINON...770 has LOWER RPM.
770 also has bigger SHAFT diameter. ( stock pinon wont fit)
ML TOYS SUCK with customer service.....
MOST PARENT..dont know about different power wheels SPEC
, different gearbox or even understand the electric motors ratings...
to ask for the correct parts they need....
MLTOYs...customer service....dont HELP
YOu must take the gearbox you have apart...to KNOW exaclty what
you're dealing with.
It depends on the kids/ weight. ( kids will be kids)..some bounce on it...when
they're driving..lmao. Anyways....it's the gripping on grass or
slamming in the cars to reverse that will strip the gear...
( the TWO GEARS in the CENTER...are what strips on mine.lol)
Not the one he's replacing.lol
FU$K THat...They want $40 -ea just for that gear..you need 2-ea..
but you'll still need the other gears...(money pit)
It's cheaper to just purchase USED POWERPOWER wheels to replace
gearbox....out just get different used power wheels...every 2-3 months..
It depends on the kids...Some out grow it..becuase stock arnt fast..
Or just install 24-36 500 WATT SCOOTER motors live axle
or 48V 1000watt for the older kids...
Bascailly convert it into a Go kart.. ( 10-20 mph)
You dont have run it on 48v.....There's speed ( governers) on ESC.
The cars go as fast as i wat them to go...( I install the batteries.lol)
So they can drive it...until they're 10-12 year old.
It's a $250 investment...but it's worth it.
Or just do kids go kart conversion..you can get used kids racing
go kart form $300-$500..you dont need it working.
The gas motors (NOISE) will PISS off the Nieghbours.
just install 1800-2000watt BRUHSLESS motors. ( $150)
YOu dont need it that fast....until they're 12 years old.lol
If you have the motor/ live axle....you can swap it to different wack/hack
powerwheels cars...( my grand kids are spoil....they like to dive different cars)..lmao
It's just the BODY....
My grand kid havnt out grown them...becuase I make Them FAST and fun
to drive..The 20 month old is on 18v LIPO or 24 lion....doing donuts
and power slide...even she wont drive in on 12V...lmao
Yea but they are like $255 for a set
they have different options, some come complete upgrade
where'd you get the motors?
I got mine off amazon but MLToys.com sells them as well
@@daveprototype6079 not a fan of those guys so i'd rather not give them business. but thanks man.
Quisiera saber cómo conseguir los engranes x favor solo q en español respóndame x favor x q no se ingles
Estás en USA? Yo te puedo ayudar.
WHere can I get the upgraded gears?
ML toys on line
yes that is the place
Where do I get all this??
MLToys.com is where I got mine.
@@daveprototype6079 Ok. Thanks
I need to remove the gear from the motor. Any body know how? Video?
Heat gun to the gear, make it dilate, then bang out.
Heat with a lighter and it expands
Sorry I'm not sure where to order the gears I know how to do pretty much everything else I'll learn but Need to order those gears for my earboxes Have a Jeep and 2 lamborghini's kids or kids are 2 and 5 son drives his lamborghini to school sometimes
I ordered mine from Mltoys.com
Well shucks...How do we normal dads get our hands on a piece like you made with the two large bearings that fit with the little bearings? I'm thinking we need a 3d printed gear that fits with the factory shaft and bolt and then somehow fits into the circular metal gear piece. Someone make this. I will provide you a drawing :-)
There are many ways to make things, a drill and sandpaper, 3d printing, look for something already made and repurpose
Link to metal gear?
MLtoys.com
Links to the stuff would help
Mltoys.com
make it a brushless power wheels for more power
Upgrading to a brushless motor with ESC is on the list for future mods
Dave Prototype ..ive done that..it stripped the steel gears!!!...to much heat from spinning the rpm i was spinning...right at 45,000 rpm..it had the plastic tires without the traction grips..i personally think the plastic gears handle the heat better..but with any type of traction , they will definitely strip faster..
Dave Prototype ...in fact im now going to modify mine to accept a pocket bike 47cc 2 stroke motor..also use the front and rear disc brakes from same pocket bike to stop..
Yes; there is a reason they make the wheels hard plastic to allow for slippage to ease the gears... but us guys need more power LOL
That sounds awesome;
Where do I get that gear
Any luck finding a place to buy gears?
ML toys
@@BDNic ML toys online
I modified my sons powerwheels, it shreaded the gears quick...
Unfortunately that is one of the hidden monsters of upgrading. Pit crew always have repairs. Can be expensive. As he states he has three different rides or back up rides.
The kids like it though ;)
Yes as with all power sports, the weak link breaks. However us dads are good pit crews ;)
where is part 2 😕
With three boys the projects come and go fast; unfortunately we never got to video part 2. Maybe in the future as my friend has a young boy and we might revisit this mod.
like all kids I HAVE TO BANG IT DAD!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes kids are so much fun
Wouldn’t it be better to replace all the nylon gears with metal ones? That metal one is gonna eat the nylon one up.
The first gear takes the brunt of the torque; before other gears get damaged the vehicles spins the tires.
Anyone sell a mod prefab kit to drop in.
Not that I know of
Wait...your kid has a Spider-Man tattoo? 8:06
Funny gotta love the stick on tattoos; the kids sure do
Put brushless in with 4 six cell lipo battery's
That is the direction I'm going; just need to acquire the $$$ and parts going to have to beef up more of the drive train...
Cheers
@@daveprototype6079 can't wait to hear about more drivetrain upgrades
What if someone made all the gears steel
If they are getting damaged then all steel gears would be beneficial. If the motor is stronger more steel gears would be better.
Links?
MLToys.com for gears and motors
It's been years and still no one builds a full metal gearbox. It looks like the kids would ride on plastic and by the time they need metal they outgrow the car.
Its about supply and demand; only a few are making these modifications
@@daveprototype6079 What if we designed a 3d printable gearbox housing that used out of the shelv metal gears, at less than $100 per box I think it could attract a good crowd of makers, making it all open source.
@@charlesrg sounds like it could work
Time for gas engine 4 wheeler with parental REMOTE CONTROL!
Is this video just to show how cool you are that you can make your own Parts? I fail to see the point in watching a 10 minute video where you slowly unscrew/screw and provide bleeding detail about how to do all the obvious things and then quickly gloss over that you made some parts and not providing any specs on how you created or acquired those parts that really seem to be essential. Possibly you didn't think this through very well as or may be very obvious to you how "to make this part that just fits in here"
sorry you did not like the video; if you have questions I might be able to help you out.
Dave Prototype everyone is a critic man..I enjoyed the video. I too had some questions- but nothing that can’t be found at the Powerwheels forum..
To the author, if you would like I have an amazing idea that I use for my kids that really speeds them up and it's not hard on the gears..
Hi, sir i am making a wind turbine. I want to make 3000 output rpm to 30 input rpm compound gearbox but i have very little knowledge about gears could you pls help me to make this project.
sure send me the info
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