2 FAULTY Star PRINTERS | Let's Try and FIX Them!

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  • @StezStixFix
    @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Stupid Printers.

    • @draconis112
      @draconis112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The bane of many IT Persons existence.

    • @oldguy9051
      @oldguy9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stupid Printers... in a Karaoke-Bar?

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      aha!

    • @bufordmaddogtannen
      @bufordmaddogtannen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one. Any way to make the PCBs liquid proof?

    • @oldguy9051
      @oldguy9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bufordmaddogtannen The automotive industry among others use so-called "conformal coating" on PCBs and components.

  • @midinotes
    @midinotes ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So Steve has a pub, he's a rapper (and assume musician), and an electronics engineer.... we need to applaud this chap! 🎉😊

  • @TheDavalad
    @TheDavalad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    As the Technical Director of Star Europe, I applaud your repair of these. If you want to do a more comprehensive self-test, you can power the printer on with feed held to also test the print head and show settings. We also have technical manuals available for all our products, if you find a trickier problem in the future. I too would suggest a conformal coating of the boards if they cannot be relocated to a dry area.

    • @James27Simko
      @James27Simko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So, lots of words, no information other than "we know our products are known to fault but if you pay us money, we can slow down the process"

    • @Olivil
      @Olivil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I don't agree with your comment. Conformal coating can be applied DIY. I doubt Star would conformal coat a PCB if you sent it to them.

    • @ThtOtherJess
      @ThtOtherJess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Worked for a POS company for two years that exclusively used star micronics thermals and those manuals saved my life more than once. Give your technical writing team a raise! ❤️

    • @jgdovin1
      @jgdovin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@James27Simko he literally gave an extra self test step and links to free technical manuals. Never happy?

    • @James27Simko
      @James27Simko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jgdovin1 he did what most marketing directors do. Nothing. He let other people provide information and then relay it back to people like we are all stupid and can't listen to the guy in the video that we are here to see.

  • @PyroX792
    @PyroX792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    It always amazes me how a single component worth less than a penny could turn an otherwise functioning piece of kit into e-waste. Great job!

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      not under Steve and Dave's watch!

    • @fadetonoir6152
      @fadetonoir6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A 0 Ohm resistor essentially acts as a fuse, so it probably died protecting another component from damage.
      So yes, it stopped the printer from working, but it probably made it easier to fix than it could have been otherwise.
      But still way too many people would just throw something like that out so it's a good job we have people like Stez who will actually check these things!

    • @spiders-tours
      @spiders-tours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Annoyingly also these are typically to keep production costs down where you'd normally use a jumper. So in fact, in this case, it could have just been a track nothing more nothing less.

  • @justweirdfun978
    @justweirdfun978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I like most about your videos is that you show that you can save a lot of electronic devices with little effort. Unfortunately, more and more companies are resorting to making something impossible to repair.

  • @VideoNarstee
    @VideoNarstee ปีที่แล้ว +7

    During my EPos Field engineer days I used to find these sorts of printers located under a beer tap, or under hot plate lamps of all places - the sites were usually completely bemused as to why they then stopped working 🙂

  • @twotone3070
    @twotone3070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm, you didn't know if you had a Zero Ohm resistor ... a piece of wire? I love you videos and you do make me smile.

  • @DTGuitarTech
    @DTGuitarTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Is it ironic that you have cleaned all that up with IPA. Which is a concentrated version of the actual thing that helped to cause the problem?

    • @armin0815
      @armin0815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As long as he's not using Indian pale ale for cleaning... 😂

    • @DTGuitarTech
      @DTGuitarTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@armin0815 🤣

    • @Factory051
      @Factory051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bar owner. Wasn't expecting that.

    • @DeathMetalDerf
      @DeathMetalDerf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the sugars in the beer and mixed drinks that's dissolved by the IPA. Ethanol is one of my favorite solvents.

    • @fadetonoir6152
      @fadetonoir6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Alcohol - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!

  • @wherami
    @wherami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Amazing. Had no idea you just learned to repair recently. You certainly appear more like someone who has been doing this for many years

  • @AcheForWake
    @AcheForWake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Working in the EPOS industry it’s good to see a few thermal printers getting some love. I’ve forwarded your video to Star UK - I’m sure they will be happy to see your hand work… keeping two of their products out of e-waste

    • @ThtOtherJess
      @ThtOtherJess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The technical director for SM Europe commented so I think your message got passed along! 👍🏼

    • @AcheForWake
      @AcheForWake ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThtOtherJess oh yes. Just read through and see Dave added some helpful comments. Not surprised Star are amazing

  • @cbabrunal
    @cbabrunal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man, You're legit becoming better at rapping each time, no joke. 👌

  • @marcinkossowski6579
    @marcinkossowski6579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hello Steve. Just wanted to let you know that I've been a viewer for quite some time. Accidentally stumbled upon you and have been hooked ever since. You actually motivated me into giving repairs a try. I've always been interested in electronics but took a different path in life and became a developer. But I always had electronics lingering in the back of my mind and your channel was a trigger for me. I've recently bought a microscope, hot air station, soldering station and a bunch of other stuff that I'm too lazy to write down (and maybe it's not that interesting to read :D ). Anyway, I've managed to fix one broken playstation 2 that I bought from the swedish verison of ebay and I recently got a second one that I'll get to soon.
    It was amazingly fun to fix the first one and I love my new hobby. Much love from a polack in sweden :)

  • @Chief1063
    @Chief1063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Freaking awesome man. Your journey in this tech repair world is inspiring.

  • @ArreglandoCosas
    @ArreglandoCosas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice one Steve! I use similar printers at work too haha. Always nice to have a working spare one

  • @Adanos_ger
    @Adanos_ger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s really, really awesome seeing your progress diagnosing and fixing devices. Really gets me wanting to upgrade my gear (missing a microscope and a decent hot air station). Keep it up, really enjoying your content 👍

    • @warpath6666
      @warpath6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      After watching this channel, I've sank about $1000 into new gear. Worth every penny knowing that I have the gear and know how to fix a lot of broken shyte 😄👍

    • @mikester1290
      @mikester1290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here, finding out what to buy though...

    • @goku445
      @goku445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@warpath6666 Do you buy broken stuff to repair?

    • @warpath6666
      @warpath6666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goku445 I do.

  • @wanjockey
    @wanjockey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    very cool to see something new. Thanks Steve.

    • @StezStixFix
      @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks WanJockey! 👍

  • @Greg_Watchorn
    @Greg_Watchorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Oooh great fix Steve - love these ones where you tackle something you would never have been able to do before.
    Quick question- you once fixed another thing from your work - a beer tap light - is it still working?

    • @StezStixFix
      @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Thanks Greg! Yeah, the beer tap light is still going strong! 😁

  • @shann90
    @shann90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love watching these videos. We live in a throw away society with electrical equipment and just shows how easy something can be repaired. My daughter dropped her phone in the sink last week and her phone wouldnt turn on. Through videos like this its gave me the confidence to take the phone apart and fix it. Ive managed to get the phone working but screens not coming on all the sounds work alarm still goes off and connecting the charger produces a sound so hopefully its just down to the screen that needs replacing which on ebay is 30 quid. Most people would of just gone out and bought an new one. Wheres the best place to buy a bottle of ipa really could do with a bottle.

  • @nubbinthemonkey
    @nubbinthemonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm happy that your creativity and smarts have found an outlet on this channel. I'm grateful to be able to share in the awesomeness of you... guy... whoever you are.

  • @RHoonte
    @RHoonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice of you to let the LED blink in sync with the music at 5:23 🙂

  • @ulrichs.3228
    @ulrichs.3228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, Star... that's a brand name I've not heard since the mid-90s when people wanted to have 9pin dot matrix printers for their C64s. Nice to hear they're still around.
    And nice repair job!

    • @mrpetit2
      @mrpetit2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume you mean mid 80's 🙂
      In the mid 90's inkjet was already mainstream tech and the c64 an attic dweller 😁

    • @chessoc7799
      @chessoc7799 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were big in the days of atari STs and amigas I'm amazed they still make dot matrix printers I will have to get one one day. :)

  • @RichHarrisThatBaldGuy
    @RichHarrisThatBaldGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As usual, I love your creative music as you thank your patrons on Patreon. Love watching you suss out what the hell's going on with the various gadgetry you come upon, too.

  • @frankmeyer9984
    @frankmeyer9984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on fixing BOTH printers 👍
    I think the zero Ohm resistor is replacing the (more expensive) fuse which would be mounted at the soldering joints directly above it. Surely the corrosion was a massive problem in both printers, but I think in the first printer a overcurrent "tripped" the "fuse". Maybe the mechanism of the cutting motor was blocked, or there was some "liquid" producing a short circuit somehow. Glad you could fix this little printer so easy 💪👍🖖

  • @damienkearns9922
    @damienkearns9922 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a therapy - you always give a laugh or two while teaching 😄🤣

  • @timermech
    @timermech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had to work on our Star printers from our Kitchen. It was always a build up of contaminants keeping it from working properly. From cutter issues to print head movement causing to not function. As you stated, if the printer doesn't function, neither does the cash drawer. Glad to see you fixing the printer instead of trashing it. Those printers aren't cheap.

  • @rciancia
    @rciancia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done.. I shall now call you "The Artist formally known as PRINTS" Purple Rain my friend !!! Excellent job !

    • @StezStixFix
      @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣🤣 thanks Ron, love it!

  • @sparky150875
    @sparky150875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving the videos Steve. Great to watch and funny too. Keep it up. I know this is old but been binging all your old content.

  • @SONNYemc
    @SONNYemc ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Toshiba laptop I bought in 2010 but never thought of repairing it, I think I totally forgot about it, now with the knowledge I have built up during the last year I guess I can give it a shot

  • @Impractically
    @Impractically 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The joy of seeing you realize it´s a fix, congratulations!

  • @psi23k
    @psi23k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I even swore at it 😂😂😂 that's always my first go at trouble shooting too.

  • @simonlunt353
    @simonlunt353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s great when you fix the problem well done Steve see you soon bye 😊

  • @RetroJack
    @RetroJack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow, I have no difficulty imagining you as a pub landlord - cheers! 🍻

  • @therealjammit
    @therealjammit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Most printers have a built in self test. Hold down the paper feed while you turn it on and it should try to do a character print test until you power it off again.

    • @Firecul
      @Firecul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yip and can also change config options on some like that also.

    • @goku445
      @goku445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would have been great to really see a test print.

  • @BuyitFixit
    @BuyitFixit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *FANTASTIC* Job Steve, you now have two working printers! NIIIIICE :)

  • @4to6months
    @4to6months 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ideally, would be great to get some kind of super hydrophobic coating for the boards! Definitely if they are going straight behind the bar at the pub again 😅

  • @MartinBogomolni
    @MartinBogomolni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had to repair quite a few of these little printers. I wish they had conformal coatings ( and I often spray one on after full repairs ) because inevitably they are used in harsh environments. As it is, the most common issues are: Capacitor C4/C6/C7, corrosion in the connectors, resistor packs... but worst of all is when the thermal head takes damage ( basically has to be replaced )

  • @Whitepalace24
    @Whitepalace24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait Wait Wait…Steve owns a bar? WHERE IS STEVE’S BAR??

  • @ThePoxun
    @ThePoxun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great fix however the smaller 0 ohm might fail under frequent use of the printer. Chances are they picked the larger one specifically due to the current that the big traces they are connecting are carrying which I would guess is the power or ground to the motor driver.

  • @shokdj1
    @shokdj1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I felt your joy when you got them going

  • @bladesofseven
    @bladesofseven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New Steve lore: Man owns a bar.
    Multi-talented, AND entertaining.

  • @retroradar_de
    @retroradar_de 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love your reaction when a repair succeeds. Keep going!

  • @pixelpuppy
    @pixelpuppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    using alcohol to clean alcohol! I love it!

  • @sebastian19745
    @sebastian19745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can relate, when having a beer alone I used to invite the printer also. Lots of hangover and corrosion afterwards. Now, I drink mostly vodka so I do not have problems with inviting a printer to a drink; the alcohol cleans and prevents corrosion. About the hangover....well....

  • @gravedigga71
    @gravedigga71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stupid filthy printers...not anymore. Good work Steve. 🙂

  • @alanjones8592
    @alanjones8592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these kind vids,your videos stands out above the rest because you bring humour to the show👍

  • @DamienCooley
    @DamienCooley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooh, you have a pub? I demand a video tour at some point! Also, not that I am anywhere near the UK, but I'm sure some of your viewers could visit!

  • @leeslatter120
    @leeslatter120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joined the might StezStix club mate, love your content. I refurb and spin consoles for the past few years and love your content pal. Keep it coming! Love the variety rather then Game Boy after Game Boy etc...!

  • @Manu-Official
    @Manu-Official 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, and, printer, just one more thing. Love your font.

  • @CanuckJim
    @CanuckJim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic job - and few quid you won't have to spend if the current one goes down. GET IN!!!

  • @identicalsnow
    @identicalsnow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved how you used to say "Haha! Yes! Get in there." When you succeed in your endeavor.

  • @SixtyDoesStuff
    @SixtyDoesStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done! The game consoles and toys are fun, but it's nice to see a piece of actually used and needed equipment get repaired!

  • @nicolasbrenta357
    @nicolasbrenta357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:07 Thats an understatement, you are a great technician.

  • @chris-pike
    @chris-pike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another good fix there Steve theres no end to your talent 👍

  • @the3sounds
    @the3sounds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Morecambe and Wise reference. Nice.

  • @ps3customgamer
    @ps3customgamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could cover the boards in a conformal coating if you want to keep these running. A pre mixed conformal coating from mouser or cpc would work or mineral spirits and clear silicone could work.

  • @jalaristv7512
    @jalaristv7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a video with out any edits when your working on whatever you’re fixing. No speedups/cuts/music. The longer the video the better. It would be asmr heaven for me not sure if anyone else feels the same.

  • @oneshotgrow
    @oneshotgrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should get a small ultrasonic cleaner.

  • @bohanasro6439
    @bohanasro6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The king of nice flow

  • @welshtony1
    @welshtony1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew you owned a bar, very tuff buisness these day.
    Great job on the fix, crazy how just cleaning is mostly what things need

  • @tsbeech
    @tsbeech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get in there! Great video Steve.

  • @Whitewingdevil
    @Whitewingdevil ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to work with very similar printers at the restaurant I used to work at, we had a line of 5 of the bloody things lined up for various delivery orders, all connected to whatever random locked-down system the delivery service provided via bluetooth. On a good day maybe 2 would actually work.

  • @electronbox
    @electronbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 9:27, far right, middle; looks like the beginning of tin whiskers forming.

  • @kyorin6526
    @kyorin6526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You followed up fantastic, with amaze-balls... 😁

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that just cleaning something can often make it work again.

  • @3fus
    @3fus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:49 The black gunk might be due to leakage of the C10 to the right. I would check that one for sure, not only the zero Ohm smd you replaced.

  • @weniard
    @weniard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good Steve! There is nothing more Satisfying than fixing something :)

  • @TragicMike
    @TragicMike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best HH rap yet spitting sick bars as always! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @MrThomashorst
    @MrThomashorst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The upper pad of that diode looks a bit loose. Probably a good idea to resolder some of the corroded pads.
    You can reduce to risk of "beer intake" by elevating the printer on the desk with some rubber feets or somting similar.

  • @chrisj2848
    @chrisj2848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good one Steve! Saved the board from beer to sell more... beer! 🍺

    • @StezStixFix
      @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😁 yep, and to spill more beer on it!

    • @chrisj2848
      @chrisj2848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StezStixFix Its a vicious cycle. 😆

  • @sonixthatsme
    @sonixthatsme ปีที่แล้ว

    Protip, grease up the connectors and use clear lacquer to waterproof the Pcb.

  • @TisboreArt
    @TisboreArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job buddy!!

  • @thedanyesful
    @thedanyesful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a bizzare issue with that resistor. I never would have found that.

  • @leighhalford4054
    @leighhalford4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird.
    I started watching this, While Equalizer 2 was on the TV.
    With the patreon song came on it matched the driving scene at the beginning. Seriously.

  • @MrGamingNerd
    @MrGamingNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work, love it!!!

  • @tudorviorel5438
    @tudorviorel5438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job man

  • @markg3506
    @markg3506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Steve!

  • @AdeJohnson
    @AdeJohnson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to come to your pub now!

  • @optimizelogicrepair2784
    @optimizelogicrepair2784 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 0 ohm resistor is essentially a fuse. Even the silkscreen above is labeled “F2”

  • @rster536821
    @rster536821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job

  • @pcxgam3r576
    @pcxgam3r576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    to do a test print hold down the feed button and turn on the power

  • @UberMicroRepairs
    @UberMicroRepairs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent fix Stez, super satisfying corrosion clean up. Just an idea... You couls "beer" harden them by giving the PCB's a coat of clear spray paint?

  • @MikesArcadeMonitorRepair
    @MikesArcadeMonitorRepair 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job!

  • @mrpetit2
    @mrpetit2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait what?....
    You have a pub?!?🤗🍻😂👍
    I absolutely didnt expect that!😂
    Do you need new friends?😁🤣
    Very good that you developed your skillset in just 5 years next to your totally unrelated job👍

  • @MrFixiit
    @MrFixiit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job steve.

  • @StuartHicks01
    @StuartHicks01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top job, great fixes.

  • @mrsmw2020
    @mrsmw2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t know a lot about this stuff, but find the repairs fascinating. Why does the corrosion happen?

    • @kayleas5328
      @kayleas5328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      usually liquid damage of some kind

  • @mikeenglish6734
    @mikeenglish6734 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @lTinyl
    @lTinyl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Double fix! awesome!

  • @rogernichols8150
    @rogernichols8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Dave 😂🤣😂🤣 and you did a ok job mate 😂🤣😂 so enjoy your videos please keep them coming and here to help get your videos out to everyone to enjoy cheers

  • @daylightdies7194
    @daylightdies7194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I drowned a recipe machine with a large coffee 😂 amazingly it still worked after a drying. My boss at the time wasn’t to pleased

  • @seedmoreuser
    @seedmoreuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you've got green contacts, it's better to use some vinegar. It'll help dissolve the corrosion and get rid of any chunks you can't see.

  • @wizzardoffuzz
    @wizzardoffuzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaaaaand now I need to know where stez bar is!

  • @TheSaxon25
    @TheSaxon25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your show so much - your music is tops

  • @hachogonzalez8649
    @hachogonzalez8649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So fixing two printer that each cost at least 150 pounds for really zero cost that is so impressive. This is the real way forward. Fix stuff, make stuff work longer and save the enviroment every small way yourself.

  • @jamesmcnorton3755
    @jamesmcnorton3755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All cash machines have a cheeky latch at the back of them to allow manual entry to the drawer, I miss my barman days 😂

  • @jonathanlittle8393
    @jonathanlittle8393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job 👏

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait you are a bar owner ? I didnt know that ! That's so cool

  • @VenomDDD
    @VenomDDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent.

  • @samholdsworth420
    @samholdsworth420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the real star here mate ✨

  • @zKaltern
    @zKaltern 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Working in IT, and for a time, specifically with HP and Zebra printers... THEY SUCK. I hate them. I'd rather install Windows 10 times than try and troubleshoot a printer. Top job.

    • @StezStixFix
      @StezStixFix  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😁 thanks Kaltern, have to agree with you there! 😁