@@thecountryjumper You want us to be ashamed our ancestors did? What ridiculous notion. How far back should our shame travel, then? Let's look to the future, instead.
@@nahmend6987 Should we blame and shame modern day Northern Africans? Of course not, we should live with them peacefully and look to the future together.
Didn't you realise by now each former empire accuse others of being worse? Americans do the same when they talk about spanish empire, English do the same when they talk about Spanish and Deutch empire, Portuguese do the same when they talk about English and Spanish empire... ...and Brazilians pretend they have nothing to do with colonizition, despite the fact that the trade actually increased *after* the independency, to a point almost a million people being brought from Africa in a short period of time.
You might find interesting to look into how Brasil at one point was a part of the kingdom and not a colony. How the royal family just moved to Brasil and ruled from there during the Napoleonic era. How the kingdom split into two separate countries, with the royal family basically splitting in two.
All of Europe (well, all of humanity) has a vast history of slave trading. And all European countries have been traders as well as being the traded. The vast majority of human trading throughout human history has been inner European trading. Africa came very late into the picture on an international scale and was only possible because the African tribes did to their neighbors exactly what Europeans did to theirs. I'm not trying to diminish the pains each individual had to go through, nothing can take that away. Roughly 13 million people have been shipped to the US, and each and everyone was too many. But that number is just a hiccup in comparison to the amounts of inner European and overall global human trading. To put it into another perspective: Everyone did partake in human trading. There's not one nation, not one tribe that didn't, which is horrible in it's own right, but those that won the fights and sold their prisoners quite often also ended up being the sold loser the next time around. If everyone did it, the best solution is simply to acknowledge the wrong of it, stop the practice and aim for peaceful relations. Every tribe and culture has experienced being sold. There's no need or reason to stoke that particular fire again. Instead of looking into the past, maybe look at today. There's currently more than 55 million humans considered slaves around. Getting attention to that is very much more important than putting attention of deeds centuries in the past.
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German. Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis... Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German. Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis.... Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
@maskharat You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German. Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis.... Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German. Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis.... Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
The total number of Africans shipped to the America's may have been 13 million. Or less. Only a small percentage came to the US or its precursor colonies. Most went to Brazil and to the Caribbean.
One thing I don’t understand with Americans is their issue with slavery. It was a historical fact, and that’s it. Everyone had slaves, all sorts of people have been enslaved. How can someone be sorry for something that happened 500 years ago? Whom can we say sorry to? Should they also say sorry to each other for also enslaving their neighbours and selling each other as slaves to the Spanish and Portuguese when they arrived? There’s nothing to be ashamed about, it happened, it’s history and that’s it, we don’t do a big deal about it in this side of the ocean
This is kind of the same thing as when arabic nations talk about slavery and colonization when they are the only historical peer competitor in slavery and colonization of the european nations. This is because the english speaking world is in the spotlight thats why everyone knows about the racism issues in the US but get shocked when they learn the US isn't even in the top 10s of the most racist countries in the world.
The language is quite diferent and it is sad to see that, as a lot of things on the internet are in brazilian portuguese. Thanks to that, portuguese ppl are losing their language, their culture. Kids now speak more in a brazilian way due to mainly watching things on yt in that language. Also, i have seen some ppl in my class writing in a brazilian way. College. We are in COLLEGE, for god sake😂 Also, despite being nice, some brazilians disrupt peace (i jad neighbours who, for three years, during summertime, would go out to our street and blast out music while having churrascos. I have had SEVERAL mental breakdowns while trying to study for my final exams thanks to that. I used to bring my own speaker out and blast my own music bc i don't like funk a lot😂) and some are quite entitled. But i have also found some nice brazilians, who i befriended❤ Also, during the reddit flag 2024 competition, portugal and brazil allied and, in the area that conected both flags, they made among us hearts with the two flags together❤ It goes borh ways bc they are in EVERY comment section trolling portuguese ppl saying "where's our gold?" and there are also some portuguese ppl who are flat out karens to our brothers, the brazilians. Plz, educate yourself on the whole portuagl vs brazil internet thing as soon as you can, as you'll get an in dept notion on how both countries battle each other😂 Conversationally, imo we just don't talk about it bc it is a bad thing in our past and we completely changed...until you go to the internet. A lot of us just don't talk about it, as i said, but i have seen here and there a few black sheep that makes me question if we live in the same country in the same year😤 But, yeah, we are taught a lot about it in school ngl that is done right.
@ trump is not an intelligent man...at all. What he has are the skills of a grifter/conman. He's excellent at those and that seems to be enough for him. but he is not remotely intelligent....
Infelizmente, existe muita gente historicamente ignorante, em Portugal e no Mundo. Mas reduzir a colonização portuguesa à escravatura não faz sentido. O uso da História como arma política está na moda, mas nem sempre os resultados são os mais coerentes. Já agora, na escola, na disciplina de História, a Escravatura é discutida, como todos os outros temas relacionados com a Expansão ultramarina portuguesa.
Mudam se os tempos mudam se as vontades, muda se o ser muda se a confianca, todo o mundo é composto de mudanca, tomando sempre novas qualidades. Portuguese are not like US culturally. We do not think the same way, we dont have the same culture or way of thinking. Everyone knows slavery was bad. Unfortunately it still exists. Instead of keep bringing up the past where there is notjing anyone can do but virtual signaling. Maybe go fight modern slavery. Im sure you will help a lot. Ta ta
I could say it in your language but since it's my country history we are taking about I'll say it in portuguese, why? cause I can!😂 Então, nós portugueses temos orgulho na nossa história, porque a nossa história não começa apenas na altura do comércio Transatlântico de escravos, isso é a única coisa que as pessoas sabem sobre nós e ainda por cima acham que sabem mais sobre nós de que nós próprios, em relação a esse assunto, o que é mentira já que nós sim estudamos a nossa história com recurso a documentos oficiais traduzidos do latim e das formas de português antigo dessa altura da história. E então na verdade a nosso primeiro contacto com a escravatura foi no nosso própria península Ibérica aquando da tomada de posse dos árabes, eles que legislam e praticam a escravatura religiosamente e até aos dias de hoje é aceite no livro religioso deles mas aí já ninguém diz nada..., levou cerca de 1000 anos até que o movimento da "RECONQUISTA" expulssásse as comunidades dos Mouros Africanos que eram super violentos com o pessoal Ibérico, mas conseguimos e no processo criou-se Portugal 🇵🇹✝️. Já em relação ao comércio transatlantico de escravos feito pelos portugueses, passo a explicar, o primeiro contacto com essa "mercadoria" e mentalidade foi-nos dada pelo próprio Rei do Congo. O reino do Congo fica ali no meio da África, e já antes dos portugueses chegarem ao Congo já há muitos anos e séculos nós passámos por território africano e não escravizámos ninguém!!! Era algo que nunca passou pela cabeça até essa ideia nos ser apresentada pelo rei do Congo, que tinha um enorme número de prisioneiros de guerra e queria troca-los por armamento português, o Rei do Congo converteu-se ao catolicismo, e até foi batizado! E muitas cartas ele enviáva a Portugal para que enviássemos mais barcos para ele mandar mais prisioneiros porque ele queria mais armamento. (Essas cartas são mantidas até hoje na torre de Lisboa como registos oficiais e prova do acontecido e certos excertos são mostrados e ensinados nos nossos livros de história nas nossas escolas!) Resta dizer que a única razão pela qual os portugueses aceitaram essa proposta do Rei do Congo, é porque queriamos imenso desenvolver o Brasil, mas a população portuguesa na época era de apenas 1 milhão de habitantes e maioria ficou em Portugal e não era o suficiente para ir desenvolver o Brasil, e também os nativos Brasileiros estavam morrendo aos montes, não que os estivesse -mos activamente exterminando como os Brasileiros aprendem nas suas escolas comunistas e fomentadoras de ódio, mas porque os nativos sul americanos não possuiam imunidade contra as doenças comuns europeias e não estavamos entendendo a razão pois a medicina não estava tão desenvolvida na altura. Resta dizer também algo de extrema importância: *NÃO ATRIBUÍMOS AS CULPAS DESSA ESCRAVATURA AO REI DO CONGO, MAS RECONHECE-MOS QUE O MESMO APENAS O FAZIA POR ESTAR ACOSTUMADO A TER QUE LIDAR COM OS ÁRABES QUE A QUALQUER MOMENTO INVADIAM AS REGIÕES DE ÁFRICA E EM VEZ DE DESTRUIREM E ESCRAVIZAREM TODOS O REI DO CONGO JÁ SE PRECAVIA COM OS SEUS PRÓPRIOS PRISIONEIROS COMO MOEDA DE TROCA PARA QUE OS ÁRABES LEVASSEM ESSES PRISIONEIROS COMO ESCRAVOS E DEIXASSEM O SEU REINO EM PAZ
Allow me to demonstrate just how & why this argument is simply unsound. 1) Do you happen to be a *murder* 2) Do you know anyone who was *murdered* Therefore who cares?
Reconheço a história do meu País e tenho muito Orgulho em ser Português. E adoro a toda a gente, e todos os que venham a ajudar, são bem vindos.
Pronto, tinha de vir a conversa de merda: O cabrão do Terceiro-mundo em peso é bem-vindo,
Caso não valham nada isso depois logo se vê.
Our history with slavery is that we did it, and we were one of the first nations to ban it.
That was not the question.
@@thecountryjumper You want us to be ashamed our ancestors did? What ridiculous notion. How far back should our shame travel, then? Let's look to the future, instead.
We were also enslaved by the African Moors all of Ibéria was
@@nahmend6987 Should we blame and shame modern day Northern Africans? Of course not, we should live with them peacefully and look to the future together.
Didn't you realise by now each former empire accuse others of being worse?
Americans do the same when they talk about spanish empire, English do the same when they talk about Spanish and Deutch empire, Portuguese do the same when they talk about English and Spanish empire...
...and Brazilians pretend they have nothing to do with colonizition, despite the fact that the trade actually increased *after* the independency, to a point almost a million people being brought from Africa in a short period of time.
You might find interesting to look into how Brasil at one point was a part of the kingdom and not a colony. How the royal family just moved to Brasil and ruled from there during the Napoleonic era. How the kingdom split into two separate countries, with the royal family basically splitting in two.
All of Europe (well, all of humanity) has a vast history of slave trading. And all European countries have been traders as well as being the traded. The vast majority of human trading throughout human history has been inner European trading. Africa came very late into the picture on an international scale and was only possible because the African tribes did to their neighbors exactly what Europeans did to theirs.
I'm not trying to diminish the pains each individual had to go through, nothing can take that away. Roughly 13 million people have been shipped to the US, and each and everyone was too many. But that number is just a hiccup in comparison to the amounts of inner European and overall global human trading.
To put it into another perspective: Everyone did partake in human trading. There's not one nation, not one tribe that didn't, which is horrible in it's own right, but those that won the fights and sold their prisoners quite often also ended up being the sold loser the next time around.
If everyone did it, the best solution is simply to acknowledge the wrong of it, stop the practice and aim for peaceful relations. Every tribe and culture has experienced being sold. There's no need or reason to stoke that particular fire again.
Instead of looking into the past, maybe look at today. There's currently more than 55 million humans considered slaves around. Getting attention to that is very much more important than putting attention of deeds centuries in the past.
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German.
Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis...
Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German.
Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis....
Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
@maskharat You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German.
Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis....
Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
You did minimize it, and whether intentional or not, it's part of the propaganda of othering people, and then the beating of European chests is just a question of time. I am sure the next comment, whether by you or a white knight calling me, woke, will talk about Great Britain fighting against the practice of slavery. So, I have the playbook. You downplay the systemic practice of European slavery that had never been seen before, including today. The inhumanity is nowhere near comparable, but being truly truthful isn't the point, because from here then the evils of the British Empire can be cleasened with ignorance and omission. I can go into Queen Victoria 👸 being the greatest dгцg d3a1er in history, not Pablo Escobar, but you already knew that and of course your next comment was going to address all of evils of the British Empire. I can talk about how the British used South Asians in their front lines as Canon Fodder, and today, those men's descendents are treated like trash on the streets of London while getting called Gr00mers and being beaten to d3aтн after the Guardian reported on the British Governmental findings that the vast majority of cases were done by white men. You have Elon Musk spreading the lie pushed by despicable people like Tommy Robinson. Just to show how merciful I am, I will admit that the British weren't the worst at using their conquered 'subjects' as Canon Fodder, that distinction belongs to the Russians under the banner of Soviet brotherhood. While the poor Central Asian Muslim got to eat some German artillery, the Slavs did the heavy lifting of 'strategizing' far far away from anyone speaking German.
Again, this is about framing and the refusal of White European culture, taking true ownership of the past and to understand how it has gotten us to this point. We are still living it in Gaza, but we aren't allowed to say that because it makes us antis....
Like I said, on the streets of Moscow, you should see how Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs are treated! Shocking stuff, am I not merciful?
The total number of Africans shipped to the America's may have been 13 million. Or less. Only a small percentage came to the US or its precursor colonies. Most went to Brazil and to the Caribbean.
One thing I don’t understand with Americans is their issue with slavery. It was a historical fact, and that’s it. Everyone had slaves, all sorts of people have been enslaved. How can someone be sorry for something that happened 500 years ago? Whom can we say sorry to? Should they also say sorry to each other for also enslaving their neighbours and selling each other as slaves to the Spanish and Portuguese when they arrived? There’s nothing to be ashamed about, it happened, it’s history and that’s it, we don’t do a big deal about it in this side of the ocean
Let me guess your race.
This is kind of the same thing as when arabic nations talk about slavery and colonization when they are the only historical peer competitor in slavery and colonization of the european nations. This is because the english speaking world is in the spotlight thats why everyone knows about the racism issues in the US but get shocked when they learn the US isn't even in the top 10s of the most racist countries in the world.
Exactly!
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The language is quite diferent and it is sad to see that, as a lot of things on the internet are in brazilian portuguese. Thanks to that, portuguese ppl are losing their language, their culture. Kids now speak more in a brazilian way due to mainly watching things on yt in that language. Also, i have seen some ppl in my class writing in a brazilian way. College. We are in COLLEGE, for god sake😂
Also, despite being nice, some brazilians disrupt peace (i jad neighbours who, for three years, during summertime, would go out to our street and blast out music while having churrascos. I have had SEVERAL mental breakdowns while trying to study for my final exams thanks to that. I used to bring my own speaker out and blast my own music bc i don't like funk a lot😂) and some are quite entitled. But i have also found some nice brazilians, who i befriended❤
Also, during the reddit flag 2024 competition, portugal and brazil allied and, in the area that conected both flags, they made among us hearts with the two flags together❤
It goes borh ways bc they are in EVERY comment section trolling portuguese ppl saying "where's our gold?" and there are also some portuguese ppl who are flat out karens to our brothers, the brazilians.
Plz, educate yourself on the whole portuagl vs brazil internet thing as soon as you can, as you'll get an in dept notion on how both countries battle each other😂
Conversationally, imo we just don't talk about it bc it is a bad thing in our past and we completely changed...until you go to the internet. A lot of us just don't talk about it, as i said, but i have seen here and there a few black sheep that makes me question if we live in the same country in the same year😤
But, yeah, we are taught a lot about it in school ngl that is done right.
Is that you *Trump* ??? Same talking points...different country
@ trump is not an intelligent man...at all. What he has are the skills of a grifter/conman. He's excellent at those and that seems to be enough for him.
but he is not remotely intelligent....
Infelizmente, existe muita gente historicamente ignorante, em Portugal e no Mundo.
Mas reduzir a colonização portuguesa à escravatura não faz sentido. O uso da História como arma política está na moda, mas nem sempre os resultados são os mais coerentes.
Já agora, na escola, na disciplina de História, a Escravatura é discutida, como todos os outros temas relacionados com a Expansão ultramarina portuguesa.
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Just step over it, it’s meant to drag you down and control you. Just step over it.
Well it's there for all to see, just don't do it again K ? It's bad.
Mudam se os tempos mudam se as vontades, muda se o ser muda se a confianca, todo o mundo é composto de mudanca, tomando sempre novas qualidades. Portuguese are not like US culturally. We do not think the same way, we dont have the same culture or way of thinking. Everyone knows slavery was bad. Unfortunately it still exists. Instead of keep bringing up the past where there is notjing anyone can do but virtual signaling. Maybe go fight modern slavery. Im sure you will help a lot. Ta ta
I could say it in your language but since it's my country history we are taking about I'll say it in portuguese, why? cause I can!😂
Então, nós portugueses temos orgulho na nossa história, porque a nossa história não começa apenas na altura do comércio Transatlântico de escravos, isso é a única coisa que as pessoas sabem sobre nós e ainda por cima acham que sabem mais sobre nós de que nós próprios, em relação a esse assunto, o que é mentira já que nós sim estudamos a nossa história com recurso a documentos oficiais traduzidos do latim e das formas de português antigo dessa altura da história.
E então na verdade a nosso primeiro contacto com a escravatura foi no nosso própria península Ibérica aquando da tomada de posse dos árabes, eles que legislam e praticam a escravatura religiosamente e até aos dias de hoje é aceite no livro religioso deles mas aí já ninguém diz nada..., levou cerca de 1000 anos até que o movimento da "RECONQUISTA" expulssásse as comunidades dos Mouros Africanos que eram super violentos com o pessoal Ibérico, mas conseguimos e no processo criou-se Portugal 🇵🇹✝️.
Já em relação ao comércio transatlantico de escravos feito pelos portugueses, passo a explicar, o primeiro contacto com essa "mercadoria" e mentalidade foi-nos dada pelo próprio Rei do Congo. O reino do Congo fica ali no meio da África, e já antes dos portugueses chegarem ao Congo já há muitos anos e séculos nós passámos por território africano e não escravizámos ninguém!!! Era algo que nunca passou pela cabeça até essa ideia nos ser apresentada pelo rei do Congo, que tinha um enorme número de prisioneiros de guerra e queria troca-los por armamento português, o Rei do Congo converteu-se ao catolicismo, e até foi batizado! E muitas cartas ele enviáva a Portugal para que enviássemos mais barcos para ele mandar mais prisioneiros porque ele queria mais armamento. (Essas cartas são mantidas até hoje na torre de Lisboa como registos oficiais e prova do acontecido e certos excertos são mostrados e ensinados nos nossos livros de história nas nossas escolas!)
Resta dizer que a única razão pela qual os portugueses aceitaram essa proposta do Rei do Congo, é porque queriamos imenso desenvolver o Brasil, mas a população portuguesa na época era de apenas 1 milhão de habitantes e maioria ficou em Portugal e não era o suficiente para ir desenvolver o Brasil, e também os nativos Brasileiros estavam morrendo aos montes, não que os estivesse -mos activamente exterminando como os Brasileiros aprendem nas suas escolas comunistas e fomentadoras de ódio, mas porque os nativos sul americanos não possuiam imunidade contra as doenças comuns europeias e não estavamos entendendo a razão pois a medicina não estava tão desenvolvida na altura.
Resta dizer também algo de extrema importância:
*NÃO ATRIBUÍMOS AS CULPAS DESSA ESCRAVATURA AO REI DO CONGO, MAS RECONHECE-MOS QUE O MESMO APENAS O FAZIA POR ESTAR ACOSTUMADO A TER QUE LIDAR COM OS ÁRABES QUE A QUALQUER MOMENTO INVADIAM AS REGIÕES DE ÁFRICA E EM VEZ DE DESTRUIREM E ESCRAVIZAREM TODOS O REI DO CONGO JÁ SE PRECAVIA COM OS SEUS PRÓPRIOS PRISIONEIROS COMO MOEDA DE TROCA PARA QUE OS ÁRABES LEVASSEM ESSES PRISIONEIROS COMO ESCRAVOS E DEIXASSEM O SEU REINO EM PAZ
Do you happen to be slave or know anyone who is/was a slave ? No ? Than who cares 🤷♂️
Allow me to demonstrate just how & why this argument is simply unsound.
1) Do you happen to be a *murder*
2) Do you know anyone who was *murdered*
Therefore who cares?
@ There is 5 murders per 100000 people in USA yearly 330mln/100k = a lot. Still not many slaves in USA 🤷♂️
Spoken like a true white man.
lol
The appalling comments here prove your point.
Yep.
No one cares
So you are backing her point. Good job 👏
@@shonehi546tim9 I know right? no one cares.
@@marting7848 trash people don't, you are right