Special Operations PERSONALITY TEST
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- Are you interested in joining the military? Do you aspire to a more elite unit? Do you have what it takes to succeed? How do you know? Here is some practical advice and fun stories that may help you discern whether special operations is right for you. Please SUBSCRIBE and let me know what you think!
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“Can’t sneeze without hurting someone’s feelings” A few years to soon.
6:35...came to the comments to say just this...
Like Gunny Highway said perfectly. "You're beginning to Bore me." Semper Fi to us MARINES.
That aged well.
I see what you did there
Now…October 2022 can’t squint without hurting someone’s feelings! 😂
His comment about Rangers being the most out of control and unruliest reminds me of an old story I read about the King of France. He was preparing for war, I forget with whom and had brought in several mercenary armies. One of his armies was a group of Irish mercenaries and one day he had the commander of this group appear before him. he wanted to instill some manner of obedience or discipline into the Irish. The King said "Tell me Colonel, why is that I keep getting reports that my Irish army is the most difficult and wild to deal with?" The Irish commander responded "I can't say, Your Majesty, but fortunately you enemies say the same thing"
Hahahaha - love it
Excellent 😁
LOL
Irish dude here. We just love to have the craic that’s all.
Abe Froman says who?
My dad told me when I was a child. The difference between a hero and a coward is the direction that they run. He was a drill sergeant in the United States Army.
The difference between a dead guy and a not dead guy is which way he's running -albert einstein
If running in the direction of death saves others.... I'm ok with that
@@timhillman2487 yet here you are typing comments on TH-cam lol
@malik p Never quit. From an old boat guy.
My Marine drill Sargent uncle's definition of "the difference between a hero and a coward was...... "30 seconds"
Discipline is doing something that has to be done when you hate every minute of it.
Not necessarily a solid operator trait.
Read Charlie Beckwith
Dude thats exactly my new life
Mike Tyson
Funny how we hate it yet we enjoy it at the same time or else we wouldn’t be doing it
Amen
I've always liked dealing with special ops, no matter who. They were usually down to earth and had a dry sense of humor.
that dry humor is issued.
John Lovell My ass. It's a sign of intelligence! LOL
@Real Winner the posers are quite the opposite.
@@WarriorPoetSocietyHa
Or dark sense of humor.
A good friend of mine was in 3rd Batt and he told me that the definition of a Ranger is "someone who's smart enough to know when to quit, but too stubborn or stupid to actually do it." Not sure why that makes sense, but after knowing several guys that have worn the scroll, it makes perfect sense.
Orneriness. Refusal to let THEM defeat you/win.
you have to be smart enough to know how stupid you are. so you can fix it.
Real easy to say when you are relying on guns to fight and defend yourself with. Try the same mentality with swords, knives, bare hands
@@matttheamerican3766 what’s that have to do with anything lol
@@matttheamerican3766 you ever been in a gun fight?
Recently found your channel and I'm hooked! Most former "Special Ops" guys, with channels, have egos so huge that their sole existence to having a channel is to stroke their huge egos. I especially appreciate your demeanor that it's not about you but rather helping others to develop, grow and be vigilant.
During my 26 year, military career I wasn't a hooah, hooah type and couldn’t stand those who were. In my experience, they were often the weakest link displaying more bravado than tactical sense. I never had any desire to attend Airborne or Ranger School nor did I compete or networked to get a slot, I only strived at doing the best I could and ended up being offered slots for both. With great reservations, I accepted, though I felt I didn’t I have the intestinal fortitude to succeed and be a member of the warrior elite.
Airborne was a pathetically easy and didn’t live up to the hype. Ranger school, on the other hand, push me towards and beyond my breaking point but I didn’t break. There wasn’t a day that went by that I didn’t think about quitting or hopefully getting injured to bow out gracefully. I did get injured during my jump into the swamp phase, but my RI (Ranger Instructor) plucked me out of the ER and told me to suck it up and Charlie Mike and took away my 800mg of Motrin and said fuck the x-rays your still mobile. I was in great pain but "Rangered On" through both the swamp and desert phase in Dugway, UT.
I graduated with 80 Ranger candidates out of the original 800 that I started with, without being recycled or peered. I never got a Ranger tattoo, nor wore a Ranger T-shirt or adorn my POV with a Ranger bumper sticker or window decal, I felt these were reserved for those who lived the life, wore the Ranger Scroll whether they earned the tab or not. I only wore the Ranger Tab that I earned on my uniform and keep the Original that was pinned with on my shoulder on 12 Dec 89 in my wallet to remind me that I have no limitations.
Thanks Gilbert and thanks for sharing some of your story
I admire your humbleness about not telling everyone about you being an Airborne Ranger 😂
I’m a new NCO in the infantry, traditionally we break down soldiers at an early stage and build them back up exactly how you where saying. But given a new army policy that widely is unliked by my brothers in the infantry. We are no longer allowed to “smoke” soldiers because it is now seen as hazing. I was hoping you can give me your opinion on this new army policy and as well as give me some new insight on how I can better teach my men without getting in trouble by big army’s ridiculous policy.
@ Benton.
I strongly suggest you join the Military first. Then wait till you make the rank of E6 before you even think of training another soldier As a new NCO which I have no idea what you are trying to say,because there is no rank NEW NCO. Nice try. JOIN FIRST. THE REST WILL FOLLOW
I like the guy, he's a team guy but still quite narcissistic...
Intelligence under pressure = can you think outside the box. Our society today discourages thinking outside the box. You must assimilate!
John Lovell, I know this is a late comment but I just saw the video and it made me smile. I've never spent a minute in any branch of the military, my time was spent in law enforcement and later as a security contractor. But I saw exactly what you were talking about with regard to the "Ranger personality" about 15 years ago.
I was part of a team that provided plainclothes security and counter-surveillance for a political conference in Washington, DC. We needed 60 guys, and about 40 of them were off-duty SEALS. Another 20 were off-duty cops, and the last 5 were Rangers. We each got paid very well for the time, about a grand a day for 12 hour shifts, and there were only a few simple rules for the four day gig. They were: do not miss the van for your shift, no drinking on or off duty because you may be instantly recalled, and do not mess around with the very rich daughters of the conventioneers.
The SEALS were all small and wiry boys who were eager to do a good job. Except for one salty Master Chief, they all reminded me of Golden Retrievers catching a ball when you gave them something to do. Plus you could put them up on a rooftop in the rain and snow and never hear a peep out of them. The cops were cool except that you had to keep shooing them out of our break room where the coffee pot was. The main difference between the members of the two groups was, as one of the SEALS put it, "20 years and 20 pounds, and the cops know how to read a license plate from a distance."
But those five Rangers, oh boy. They did their jobs when on duty and were as serious as a heart attack, and I admired that. But they just couldn't seem to wrap their heads around the idea of no drinking off duty, and staying away from the girls attending the conference, and they missed the van a lot and ended up jogging to their posts instead. They didn't do well at all with the idea of rules that they thought were simply for the sake of rules. I could only imagine what it would be like trying to be in charge of them. Probably something akin to herding cats. But they were exactly the type I would want to have with me in a fight.
Best wishes and stay safe.
That’s hilarious.
Excellent video! I went into the Navy and wanted to be a SEAL, until I spoke with some of them. I went on to be a Hospital Corpsman. My advice, talk to those who have "been there done that" Don't listen to recruiters. Take your time on this, b/c once you are in the military you're married to the military first. If you signed up for 4 years, they own you for 4 years. Do your research, talk to vets, and take your time! Godspeed...
An ex Navy SEAL said he quit because he got tired of snatching bad guys out of their beds in the middle of the night.
I agree 100%, my friends who were Rangers are always solid guys of integrity, insane work ethic both in fitness and whatever job they had, super creative thinkers "outside the box" and lastly, hilarious and fun!
thanks for that. RLTW
Scoreboard. Scoreboard. Scoreboard.
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"Weather to join the Army, Navy, Air Force ...or..... coast guard..or.....whatever....".
Subtle. Oh, so subtle.
I chuckled.
Don't matter what service, top props to all who have, are or will serve as long as it is honorable service!
first step is know the difference between whether and weather
Whether
Pipe Thrive Survive wither
The Air Force is great for those interesting in technological fields like aircraft, maintenance, IT, electronics or medical. I know a young man that just went into the AF and is currently in school for cyber security. You really have to know who you are and who you are not. That can be quite humbling but worth it. It can spare you years of wasted time.
Jah Reigns Air Force is also good for anyone wanted to become a battlefield airman, TACP, CCT, and PJ, I won't mention SOWT. Air Force isn't just about working on jets and IT shit.
Luke USAF I was in the same training squadron as CCT, PJs and Crypto. Most washed out of CCT and Para and went into Crypto. It's the swimming that took most of them out. This was in the early 90s.
Jah Reigns Just can't have people forgetting that the Air Force isn't just about playing with computers in fancy leather chairs. Majority of the washouts from CCT, PJ, TACP get thrown into security forces now
Jah Reigns still the same, got this Senior airmen nurse friend of mine who failed twice on Para due to swimming
Alot of the training in the Air force can be used in the civilian world. Go Air force!
"You're telling me...you want to kick him out...because he identified a threat and was able to shoot you before you could shoot him?.."
"Y...yes sir"
"Get the fuck out of my office..."
There are 2 types of people in this World. Those who will spend their whole life looking for Glowstick batteries. And those who moved on to the next objective. If you're stuck on the reasoning behind the 1st type of person, you probably wont fit in with the 2nd type.
hahahahahahahaha
That's deep.
LOL..... I suppose type 1 would fall for the whole "Go find the keys for this Humvee" line hahah. Boots in mind and soul
Mark Hernandez. ...Whoa dude, that took a dramatic turn lol! Well, let me further it by saying I agree with most of what you said but to comment on everything, I think it takes a whole lot more than that to win and fight wars. In all seriousness, If the American people wish for our country to still be around for another 100 years then we better learn to emulate legendary Marines like the great Smedley Butler, who was twice awarded the Medal of Honor and at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine of all time...And he surely did without all the fancy gadgets and tech of today. He wrote a book in which all Americans should be familiar with (but sadly theyre not) called, "War is a Racket," which exposes the Corporate greed that sends poor young men to fight in endless wars and to shed their precious blood for the sake of a few who profit of their brokenness while refusing to do the same dirty work themselves. ...I strongly suggest you find it since it's readily available online and can be read or listened to in less than a couple hours. Today, this corporate parasite has further established itself even deeper in all aspects of our society and can be credited with the moral decline seen everywhere that is bound to place America in extremely hard times soon enough. To say the least, all the support and gear is necessary to wage in global, modern combat...it is of the utmost importance for our troops to adopt values of service, honor, courage, and a committment to excellence embodied in men like Butler who helped coined a term every young USMC boot must learn in bootcamp, and this is an "indomitable fighting spirit." The military certainly helps develop proper leadership skills, and skills of every kind, that will be needed to steer us away or out of this coming "tribulation" of a conspiratorial nature that even butler himself once warned Americans about; it will be here sure enough if we continue in the same direction as we are now. Whether or not you agree with my comments, consider what the historic Samuel Adams once said concerning the significance of veterans...
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Wishing you all the best, take care.
Long Beard well said
All WARS are bankers wars
I’m a retired Navy intel officer. Your video pointed out things that I figured out when I was assigned to CJSOTF-Afghanistan (2004-05). Previously, I had only been in conventional units with typical rigid military formality. Shortly after I arrived, an Army-SF SFC walked up to me and said, “Hi, I’m Chris.” I was momentarily befuddled; you NEVER use first names between officers and enlisted, I thought. I quickly realized that these men already had a great deal of personal discipline. In conventional units, formality can be a tool to teach discipline. In the Spec Ops community, formality no longer served a practical purpose and was, suitably, shunned.
I was Security Forces in the Marines, and I don't care he didn't mention the Marines. I respect the brother he is no matter the branch difference. Thank you for your service!!!
No that sucks that he didn't mention the Marines. Is he even serious. He didn't mention the tip of the sword!!
he brought up the raiders.... they are Marines with longer hair
Recon units are as Special Ops as it gets brother.
Mr. Lovell, what you say is truly universal. I found that same characteristic with the boys in the SAS and among Gurkhas. The personalities that make good soldiers do not always make good fighters. The personalities that make good fighters do not always make good soldiers. In fact they pride themselves of that. I worked with American Special Forces at a time, they used the American term "mavericks" after googling it. I found that term does indeed fit what elite soldiers are.
I like what he said about needless orders and stupid discipline acts. I was doing PT's to go into the Navy for SEAL, haven't shipped yet, and we were about to do sit-ups. There were some blue mats and I asked the instructors if I could pull them over for everyone to save our backs. And they said, "don't be a sissy. It doesn't hurt that bad." And I said, " So, you're saying we need to make ourselves suffer just try and prove something and tear our backs up and risk injury when we have a tool at our disposable to prevent that? We are going to have plenty of time at BUDS to tear ourselves up and prove our toughness. We should at least try to keep ourselves healthy until that point." And they got really quiet, and looked at me and said good point, but still no. Lol.
+Kyle Teeter haha, yeah, during rites of passage, it's more about screwing with your mind than doing what makes sense. 'You want me to run into the wall? Great idea Sergeant!' And then you must run into the wall
It's called "popping your cherry," yeah there are lots of things that refer to that rite of passage but nothing quite so exact as doing sit-ups on concrete until you are bleeding through your UDT shorts. I have scars from it all around my tail bone and lower back. Best advice to prevent it: lots of squats to build a big butt, even then a little extra body fat helps.
Kyle Teeter yeah nah, in Air Force poolee pt our TSgt was President's Detail in security forces and he always makes us do shit like that (he is very mindful of our health, though) cause he loves making the Army and Marine recruiters (who in my area are all assholes) and their poolees look like pussies. Chair Force doesnt exist at my substation lol
Kyle Teeter he also has us do the TACP and CCT pt workouts cause he doesnt have enough time to host different types, so we do three days a week of spec ops workouts
and then everybody stood up and clapped
Ranger Integration Hug made me laugh! Awesome story. Keep making content for the Protector in all the darkness and negativity on TH-cam it's been a joy finding your channel!!
My time with the 19 Delta's in Knox was by far the best time of my life. I got to train alongside Rangers, Marines, Seals and Delta's. Being able to learn from all the different ways of doing things. I know helps my troop be effective in every way. Having the respect from them after it was all done with is something I'm glad I earned.
So glad to hear of someone else lighting up an instructor going power happy with the god gun. Thanks for sharing John.
I understand this man very deeply. I'm only 18, but life has felt very long because I've never been able to connect and meet brothers like him. I can only describe this feeling by saying I feel like a Player 1, finding another Player 1.
"What do shiny boots have to do with anythng." LoL that's what I thought when I was in the Army.
Amen, I was part of big Army in ammunition supply after dropping out of EOD. The people who got promoted were all the pretty uniform at the end of the day guys. Which mean they didn't do anything to mess them up (no work). I hated it.
After 911 I joined the reserve as psyop. The majority of them still had the big Army shiny boots mindset.
I still never got promoted past CPL.
@Coke Dogg yes, the soft white underbelly of usasoc.
@Coke Dogg my first hitch was ammo supply.
Everything! Your life depends on shiny boots pri'it. Your whole f"ckdam world is wrapped around how pearly those boots are. Your boots will blind the enemy in front of you!
BTW, we all just sprayed a ton of hairspray on them. Trust me it works. And there's two people in the Army, people who've been sh*tbags before, and liars.
I thank James Yeager for introducing you to me. I thank you for your ideas, mentality, and sharing it. It's enlightening
I took a completely different path then the military but have the utmost respect for you guys. Much respect!
The lower the IQ of the solider the more important it is to subject them to "pomp and ceremony". They need to mold them to follow leadership because they are less capable of effective independent action. SF soldiers are all about operating with little management in places that don't have obvious.
XCritonX Never though of it that way.
Not too old bro
agreed... I had a guy in basic training who was 36
XCritonX most, if not all former SF guys are some of the most independent people there are. A ton of them are also anti-establishment and know damn well that they were doing what they did without any real reason. But not every intelligent person can afford to go to college or they might not want to, so they end up in the military. Sure, there’s plenty of people they can brainwash, but those are just normal grunts. What gets someone to SF isn’t the physical aspect though, it’s almost all mental
XCritonX and some people are just so smart and creative that they get bored and need a challenge. 😄
Troopers who conduct counterinsurgency operations tend to be irreverent, undisciplined, unkempt, crass, crude, disrespectful independent individuals with an inherent disdain for conventional authority and regulations. Counterinsurgency troopers simply will not, and can not, be integrated into the "real" Army where convoys of vehicles are marshaled for movement, where combat trains and field trains distribute all classes of supply, and where the solution to any problem can only be found through a staff study. When the shooting stops those at higher levels of command have little choice but to return the unruly mob to their cages until the next time they're needed to get the job done. Such is the character and nature of the trooper who wages unconventional warfare and we like it that way.
You are missing the mark a bit on Rangers. While they undoubtedly think for themselves, they also adhere to a creed of honor, discipline and integrity. Research "The Ranger Creed". It is more than just words to men committed to the Regiment.
Lien Law Maven Yikes, sounds like me...
@@dsm3759703 Everything he said is true and in now way, shape or form was Lien implying that the rangers do not adhere to a creed of honour, discipline and integrity! They're both the most discipline and honorable guys, and he's right, they cannot be integrated in the regular army. Just like me... except I would need to get way, way tougher to be a ranger... it's not because they irreverent, self-disciplined (what the army would call undisciplined), and - again for the army's guidelines - "crass" (long hair, tattoos, beards, etc), that they aren't the most trustworthy people on Earth. I think you missed the mark on his point.
They make great insurgents themselves! That is the key.
macmurfy2jka bahahahah spot on
I am an intel guy by MOS, but I spent about half of my career (1980-2000) in Special Ops (1983-1994) on Bragg and Campbell. I did stints in 4th PSYOP, Gp 5th Group and ARSOC. It really is different from the regular army. At that time the motto was 'The Quiet Professionals.'
In fact, the reason I chose to retire in 2000, was because I had been promoted out of Special Ops back in 94. After all that time, the regular army sickened me. 'Battle Buddies' and all the other horseshit. My last six years, I did a plainclothes stint on MacDill, and then two years teaching at FT Huachuca.
Never looked back. Thanks for the memories.
freedomsadvocate I spent time with those units also! :-)
freedomsadvocate e
any chance you were involved with the 1st psychological operations battalion (airborne) in the early 90's I was in the navy, but we did some joint exercises with them a few times
Ive heard through the grapevine some pretty cool shit about that tier one psyop smu. Was gonna try out a couple years ago but got med boarded out before i got the chance. I love doing infantry shit but im also one of those nerdy guys who likes doing research on every topic i find interesting and solving problems and puzzles and shit.
You said Intel, and that was the first thing I thought of was good old Fort Huachuca. Home of the 86th signal brigade....maybe not anymore though.
I'm a separated Navy Nuke (MM), and I wanted to tell you that this was one of the most interesting and insightful videos I've seen/heard on the military in a long time. It definitely describes aspects of some of the special programs that aren't combat oriented. Best video I've watched in the pandemic so far! Nice job. :)
I spent six years in the Navy as a nuke MM, and the parallels between our experiences amazed me while watching this video. I didn't touch a gun again after boot camp. I did the bare minimum on the PFAs. I never saw an enemy combatant. Those differences are about as stark as is possible, but all of the peripheral aspects were the same.
I don't have a clue what being in the Navy is like. At one point, on deployment, my chief came down into my plant and asked me why there was dirt on his deck. I responded with, "because we're in the Persian gulf, chief." He told me to sweep it up, so I told him I would as soon as I finished doing what I was doing. He responded with, "I gave you an order. Why don't you do it now," to which I responded, "Why don't you get the f*** out of my box, chief." About thirty minutes later, Sir (that was our lieutenant's name) came down into the plant and asked me if I told chief to "eff off," which I responded to with, "No, Sir. I asked him politely to get the f*** out of my box." Sir then asked me why I asked chief to rapidly egress, and I explained why chief's order would have cost at least $360,000 so he went back to the office and dressed chief down for about an hour.
It seems like, from my vantage point, that normally in the Navy, when an E4 openly defies an E7, then dismisses them with the utmost contempt, that the E4 is done for. For nukes, you could pretty much say and do whatever you wanted as long as you could justify your decisions with factual information and logical argumentation. Except for the brown nosing, politicking, worthless tools who were trying to sexually gratify their way into promotions (like chief clearly had), we didn't polish our boots, stand at parade rest for three hours in 120 degree weather, or socialize with the other sailors. We read our books, we stayed below sea level except to go smoke, we competed with everyone around us to be better at our job than them and better at their job than them, and we trolled each other hard at every opportunity.
Rules that make sense are great. Stupid rules are a way for stupid people to flex their stupidity on the rest of us. I wouldn't recommend being a nuke to anyone. That said, the kind of people that are why the Navy's nuclear power program has hundreds of thousands of effective full power hours without a single major incident are the ones that don't care about what other people think about something. They're going to do it because they're smarter than anyone they've ever met, they're cleverer than anyone they've ever met, and they don't care that it's 140 degrees and they've been awake for the past four and a half days because they're making a rock tear itself apart at a subatomic level and harnessing that heat to push a ship that displaces over 100,000 tons of water at speeds in excess of 30 knots while launching and catching fighter jets and bombers.
Personally, I love these talks! Very informative on a different subject.
As an UH-1H aviator, in the 80's, I did some work with the 2nd battalion. It was great!
This explains so much about my military career and why I gravitated to the groups. Thanks for articulating it so well
Great video but it made me realize why I prefer the mentality Marines to the Army. I suggest to anyone reading this to read the book Making the Corps. I like the strict discipline in all the groups even going up into Force/Recon and MARSOC.
Could you talk about PTSD and how you are able to function in civilian life having gone through combat.
I did 12 years in the Navy. in that time, I notice one constant similarity thru out The spec war guys I came across, that was an over whelming since of duty and professionalism. It wasn't always visible on the surface, but it was there. It didn't matter wich branch you were in, sec war guys work hard, play hard, and nothing short of perfect is exceptable. It's a mind set that they all have, to be better. A better soldier, a better friend, a husband, just better. Always looking ahead, yet very much aware of the present. All in all, the spec wars community that I witnessed first hand, were and still are the most professional, genuine, and fun group of guys to be around, always honest, harsh at times but honest. they're the best at what they do and strive to be better. Thankyou John, for your service, and for your insight on the world in general. Its beneficial to look at any subject thru someone one elses eyes.
Excellent stories of "integrating" with the regular Army guys. :D
From my experience, the calm under sever stress and fear is the key trait! The others are benefits, but calm under stress is essential. Without that, the other traits are useless.
rock on man, giving people some great advice that need it
You are HIGHLY skilled and speak your mind hell yeah sir America needs Men like you thank you sir
The calm is weird, like the eye of a storm,
Wish I could find that calm elsewhere,
Subbed,
You salty dog. Welcome to the channel brother. Hope you are vocal.
try crack!
Crack for calm? Clearly you've never smoked it. Quite the opposite effect.
My Father would not agree about the air force being easy. He was in from WWII and he got out after Viet nom in 1972. I grew up in the VFW hall. He was actually in the Army Air Corps. That's why I watch you guys. You remind me of him. He died at 90 years old. Anyway, keep telling stories, and I will keep listening.
thank you for posting this video, your personality description sounds like my squad leader in my 11b company. he was tactically sound and not afraid to improvise. it made my time in 3rd squad a great time.
Happy Veterans Day..R.L.T.W.
To you as well brother. A.T.W
I'm shipping off to army basics in a week for 11B and going to give everything I got to become a green beret. Love your channel and all the content! Been watching your vids all day. Gonna suck when I cant watch them for 14 weeks! Keep on keepin' on John, I have much respect for you and what you've done for our country.
So what happened?
6:34 he knew about the pandemic before everyone else did.
Word. Try taking it into the corporate world, I'm an executive in a fortune 500 company and having this personality trait can be challenging at the same time a great advantage. People's feelings are still something I have trouble with dealing with as well as frustration with the lack of decision making at all levels.
John, Way back when I was in (72 - 75) we were playing soldier (Ft Sill) Red team Blue Team stuff and 2 other cooks and I shot a Battery commander and captured the Battalion Commander and Top Shirt as they had enemy colors on and were 'over seeing' the games. We told them what their status was, got the Mess Sgt. and processed them accordingly. After 4 or 5 days in the field we got to talk with these guys again as we were called on the carpet and caught some hell. The way those grown men acted made me glad I was on the other team.... We won the games "of course"... Great stories and advice you have. Very good work bro...
+69gunnr ha! Fun times
Stress I can handle. When I get stressed the Where There is a will there is a way kicks in for me!
Us sub sailors didn't like to play with the surface fleet sailors either.
Where are you going to go on a surface ship in the middle of the Pacific Ocean?
Warren Percell Subs are for pussies.
Ash Lio Yeah. You climb inside of a steel tube and don't see anything but steel bulkheads for months at a time and hang out hundreds or thousands of feet below the water level all the while being one of the most prized targets of enemy nations to track and monitor. You have to maintain utmost secrecy both on land and at sea. Anybody makes a mistake whether in the upkeep of the boat or in leaking information, and it could cost everyone their lives. It takes big brass balls to do that job and to keep doing that job. Those guys are their own special kind of hardcore dudes.
Agreed...I cringed every time I saw a "bubblehead" @ ASW with that tee shirt that read "Two types of ships in the world...submarines and targets"
Actually it's mainly just for dicks but we are starting to let women on a little at a time.
Whenever you overthink or ramble I relate a lot to it!
i think ultimately your point of view is a very secular view that comes from a part of the military community that is more clandestine in the military. Alot of what you speak about is something i noticed with alot with the Marsoc and recon guys in the marine corps. Alot of them are very highly intelligent guys but they are made of something different that makes them better in wartime then garrison. They also had a tendancy to "stand out" alot more in a marine garrison due to their nature.
This vid is awesome. Totally made me think of my old man that was a GB back in the day. He seemed to tell a similar story about the Military experience. Thanks for that. Just found your channel. Love it.
I served in the Navy from '80-'89 (and, just to let you know, I don't put down anyone who served I ANY service, even the Coast Guard) and nothing is as it was back then. Stress cards (WTF)? The services have been horribly emasculated by the government who is supposed to be making sure that this country's military is the strongest in the world (think superior diplomacy through outstanding strength). We need to be strong so that we don't have to fight!
I totally felt your story on the pldc story. I had a similar experience in air assault school as an group guy. A saying I picked up during the Q-COURSE is "you are still being assessed".
"I meant to quit a bunch" this sums up me starting/running my business.
John great post really brought back the memories.
I was in the Navy Seabees back in the mid-70s. I am proud to have worked with some of the most undisciplined people I have ever been associated with. These were some of the hardest working guys with some of the best work ethics I've ever seen as long as we were doing construction. It was always about getting the job done even if it meant midnight requisitions for anything that wasn't tied down and guarded we even raided fellow Seabees job sites to get supplies so that we could finish our current Mission and move on. But back in the States during peacetime their spit and polish left much to be desired. All this was hard for me to understand coming from a military family who was big on tradition. Now I can proudley say that I was one of them. Nmcb 74 usn. Thanks again for the memories. Simon
Backpacking on what he said. know what you want to do before you join needs of the any breach of military are usually the jobs that suck. so please figure it out or have 3 to 5 choices.
Thank you for not being one if those guys who acts like they know the entire in and out of everything
Very enlightening. Gives me a little more confidence if i do ever try to get there. Thanks.
John, I was laughing so hard throughout this video. It so resonates with me and my former SWAT team members. Shiny boots are tactically unsound.
As a point of reference... I served 9 years in the British Parachute Regiment and we didn't mix well with anyone else.
I saw (in basic training) professional rugby players, Karate instructors, fell runners, cross country champions, etc not make the grade/fail to cut the mustard.
To a man they were tough guys but they didn't want it enough. The Para/Marine/Ranger beret costs just a few quid from the stores. Once it's on your head and earned in blood, sweat and tears it's beyond price! The juice IS worth the squeeze.
However, before a kid embarks on such a journey, have a shave, look in the mirror and honestly ask if you're up for it. Not just when you're full of beer and pissed off wanting to impress your mates or future pussy - imagine being cold, wet, scared and hungry. Imagine being sleep deprived to the edge of madness. Imagine being paid a pittance for your efforts. Imagine GOING TO WAR...
Plenty of Walter Mittys and escapees from the lunatic asylum get found out in hours. Don't be that person because it'll scar you for life - and be a source of amusement for the lads who do make it, for decades to come.
As the Marines would tell you, "learn to embrace the suck". If it's not for you, be honest and don't even try.
If you're offended by what I've said then great! You may be the cat who can dig deep and stay frosty when shit comes on top. Good luck to you all. Listen to John, he knows his stuff.
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I believe the ability to think under stress is something you can teach. not just muscle memory but the ability to take facts of a situation and put them together.
Knew a kid, Marine, who decked his DI. The Marines loved it but they sent him to Beirut. Saw a picture of him in the paper, sitting on a pile of rubble after the bombing
we talking the 80s Beirut bombing or the one from 2020. my father was sent to Beirut after the truck bomb in the 80s. but I don’t see how that person didn’t get kicked out for that, with failure to adapt
@@waclac 80s. I never got it either. He should have been booted.
The worst part of my being in the service, was getting out. Once out everyone always thought that I learned to do as we're told, to obey orders blindly. I told them that was never the case. They taught us to think for ourselves and be responsible for our actions. The following order blindly was done in Vietnam when they were told to kill everything that moved, including women and children, there was a reason for that. They would testify before congress and then say they were only following the orders. Congress said no more following orders blindly, think for yourself. Then I remind them that there is no stupid question.
I always said Im going to quit tomorrow. Tomorrow never came, years later I was still there. They tried to counsel me in PLDC because I wouldn't take my Tab off my hat or unroll it. I have been in the conventional Army for the last couple years and it is not for me. Im finally going to "quit" after 22 years.
Thank you for your service.
All enemies, foreign & domestic.
I've always found it easier to keep going than to quit. I'm usually the last guy to stop working in the rain because it's just easier to keep going than to stop.
Thank you John for this. You make us better men helping hone our thinking.
I watched "The A-Team" (The Movie, not the Show), and I thought that it was all a big joke but here I am, watching you explain what it's like to be a Ranger and suddenly, I think about those characters cooking steaks with gun powder and I can place you there. lol. I guess there was a measure of realism to their craziness from what you've described lol.
Intelligence under pressure is as I recall called high mental resistance threshold or smthn like that. And yes, that's super important, especially for any combat oriented job. In situations where regular people go into "run for your life" mode, which is forced in by body's automatic mechanism and is super hard to overcome a soldier should be able to just act as if this was playing chess with slightly higher adrenaline ;) I very enjoyed that part about sneezing without hurting someone's feeling :D
I spent eight years in Air Force Special Operations, there was no mission or JRX that we executed without at least one other service's special ops component involved. Look at how are special operations are organized under SOCOM. Everything is joint.
MJA you enjoy your time?
What job?
I wasn't in the military, but I grew up in a career Army household. As a supervisor & manager there were three people I really liked having on staff: the E-5 Marine, the SF Soldier and the Ranger. There was never any "uh, we can't do that", with them. Work got done right, and they found new ways to do it. They were never late. They were leaders. I sometimes needed to go stick up for them with my bosses because they would "get creative" and the big bosses sometimes got concerned, but I was happy to do that for them; I respected and appreciated them.
6 years in the Navy taught me that the Air Force is definitely the way to go. Better treatment, better training in technical fields, better facilities, more freedom to choose your career path, and the Air Force has the biggest chunk of the budget! Their Special Ops are no joke, either.
The Air Force has been vital in pretty much everything for a long time. Besides, how many battles won is hardly a criteria for choosing a career path.
Essentially, I agree. But now you need to go to each and every lifer, face to face, and tell them they are not supposed to be in the service for twenty years. I suggest rectal stretching exercises with a size 13 boot...
James Koutnik Just off the top of my head for Air Force members who have shaped history and the way we fight today. Billy Mitchell, Henry Hap Arnold, Curtis LeMay. Maybe you have watched the movie Broken which portrayed Louis Zamperini (yes Army Air Corps but they became the Air Force). Do nothing Air Force besides jets huh? Guess you havent met STO/CRO/ALOs (CCT/PJ/TACP)?
James Koutnik maybe I approached this wrong, but I find it hard to see how you can call the Air Force a bunch of useless bitches or whatever unless you fly jets. What about the people who get those jets to fly? And the people who get parts for those jets? Or what about the dudes that go in when a convoy gets hit and there are wounded (pjs)? Or the guys attached to army units that direct cas (TACP)? Regardless the Air Force has shaped the way war is fought and saying things like what was the last battle the Air Force won is not really a good question because the Air Force cannot physically conquer territory like the Army can, that said the Air Force makes their job much easier.
Bro i work in indian air force
Special force(garuad)
I can say its best thing in military
Last year i have jumped 1409 times from
Planes
I know i'm 4 years late on this comment, but I have been hooked on the Warrior Poet movement. In my new found fascination i have been perusing the backlog of videos on this channel. I can say without a shred of doubt this is the saddest. Not due to anything that was said in the video, but because of some of the realizations I had watching it. I have visited several military recruiters in attempt to join, every time being turned away once the scars of my knee surgeries had been revealed. Now, at 22, looking back i realize i might've had the perfect brain for special operations. Nonetheless I appreciate all the content from you guys; it keeps looking forward optimistic of the man (Warrior Poet) that I have the potential for. Keep up the great work Jon and crew!!
The asvab tells them everything they want to know. Its pretty deep from simple engineering to basic understanding of directions and instructions and even code breaking. But one thing they never tell you and may even be a little bit misleading is the manner in which they tell you to "study" for it. The ASVAB isnt what you know its how your brain works. That traits of SOF as you describe them are also the reason why the retention rates for these units suck, foring the military as a whole now to have thousands of these troops . These are the smartest people in the military, able to make their own informed decisions which is something the military frowns on.
I know this a very old video but I just in like the last year now I have to much free time(permanently disabled a 35), you can enter your numbers that seem to make no sense, but tells you every MOS across the board you qualify to go into, I was shocked when I put them in
If you are thinking of enlisting into the Military. Do your homework and set a plan for yourself from the beginning. There are alot of great opportunities to specialist in many areas of all branches in the Armed Forces. The military provided me with the world's best training, life experience, purpose, discipline, travel and goal setting.
John is right on when he talks about the personality and mindset.
"No matter what life throws at you. You will find a way to land on your feet!
From a U.S. Naval Veteran
I know this is an old video, but the charateristics you mentioned pretty much sum up ADHD..lol😄 #TheStruggleIsReal
Confirms that ADHD is a feature not a flaw
ADHD is considered by some to be an evolutionary trait useful for survival in battle
ADHD benefited me immensely in OEF as a 11B
good thing i have adhd then
@@fluxpistol3608 absolutely no one thinks that. Literally smooth brain moment.
Really enjoyed this video. Kind of just stumbled on to it, but I will be looking for more. I "discovered" my mind set early in my unit, and each time I was challenged by an instructor I would say it "load and proud". They would ask, "Ok, mister how bad do you want to wear a trident?" I would look them in the eye and reply," MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF !!" This would always make the rest of my day go better.
Dad was a ranger, his dad was a Marine, both different personalities, both great men,me on the other hand didn't join and should have.
Idk man, it's not your grandfathers and father's military anymore, much different now. Much Much different, don't beat yourself up man, we all wanna follow in those steps, but it's probably better that you didn't.
You're not really missing out on much, besides your dreams
It was submarines for me, which was similar to your experience, different mindset. We were taught to run towards the emergency because you couldn’t run away. A lot of people had trouble with that, me, I’m 63 and still run towards trouble, just not as fast.
I must be old. Miles gear is what we used.
I must be older, MILES was just coming out!
I recall breaking the new miles II systems really good..
What's fun is going to NTC and every vehicle in the valley had it's miles flasher going all night for three weeks because of a glitch. This was 2 years ago. The system needs to go away
Same here
Ken Christensen - That crap NEVER worked anyhow. I can remember walking through the swamps in JRTC at Polk and it would just start ringing. And being shot at like 15 yards by a SAW and no one in our fire team was set off. Totally stupid, that stuff.
I enjoyed watching this because you had so much fun reminiscing about your time in the Ranger Battalions
I've decided prior that I want to be a Ranger. One of the big deciding moments was when I read the Ranger creed. I was like, "I'm gonna be a Ranger."
I freaking love your attitude. I could get on with guys like this for real.
The “you can’t sneeze without hurting someone’s feelings” line aged sooo well with the help of covid 😂 hahahaha!
I was taught that peace in the face of danger is not a teachable trait. it is either in you already or not. that being said to some degree a feeling of normalcy can be groomed in high stress situations especially when it is a frequent environment. your mind and body become acclimated to the stress but fear still grasps you and that fear is the device that either causes great feats in battle or gets you or others killed. my great grandpa was a rough rider and served directly under Eisenhower.
It's kindof creepy how much I feel like my personality relates to everything you're saying so much.
Same.
You're right! You have to be honest with yourself on What You want to do and do it the best. When I joined I let the recruiter and other people influence my decision on MOS and although I was a good soldier I didn't have a good experience. If I knew then what I know now! No regrets I learned a lot. Good luck to all those privileged to serve. HOOAH
This video was encouraging.
So glad! Thx for tuning in
I went through jump school with 7 or 8 Navy Seals been so long now cant remember exactly how many their was. But one thing i do remember is they were absolutely the most intelligent, driven & just plain coolest guys i ever met... They were hilarious, they were openly disrespectful to the school cadre but at the same time very respectful & was very liked by all. If you ever hear someone say that they are a different breed of soldier. Believe that.... They are......
Love how he never says anything about the Marines lol
powerram92 > why would he on a fellow man in arms? Fuck the Marines too, they're not the best. They're good and I like how they get drilled to be out their minds but Army is the elite of the U.S. military bar none. Yeah, Marines have their infantry and Force Recon and now their Force Recon 2.0, but Army has their infantry, Air Bourne, Calvary, 75th Rangers, Special Forces, and the ultimate Delta Force. Remember Ranger School was the original training plat form for the 75th Rangers and regular army infantry are going through it and taking those never die principal back to their unit to lead their men in combat. That being said, the infantry units that have these men in their units are lucky because they're getting a little bit of spec ops training from the old days before the 75th was named the 75th. Marines need to just chill and be glad they're Marines and not compare themselves to Army or Navy SEALS and SWCC, or Air Force Spec Ops.
New Tuber i agree with your last statement, no one can compare to Marines,,,,,no one.
Billy Burd lol stop
Jeez jarheads are soo brainwashed and overrated... gimme a fuckin break
Lol I thought I was imagining the fact that he NEVER says Marines. I love this channel. John is definitely "ready to be a Marine" and then some. Thank you for your service and you sharing your "warrior poet" ideals.
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I was an Air Force TACP and after a few years thought something else would be better. Went to the medical field and I felt there was no discipline and no respect for the chain of command. Life and schedule was easier but man sometimes I was just wishing to go back. Thank you for your service.
John needs to update this video to include space force
Anger is an amazing for clarifying your decision making. For me, anyway. Like you said, laser focus.
I worry about the men and women that are excepted today. So much ptsd(suicide) and other after effects. People that go into the military are not killers, yet they kill and then have the effects of the mind. I worry about that. I am not a military guy. Just a civilian that worries.
Most PTSD that I've seen in troops comes from feeling guilty that they survived when those close them died.
Excellent insights, especially at 3:00. A lot of psychologists are of the mindset that you can't change personality, aptitude and IQ. I say bullsh*t to all of that. When it comes to responding to pressure/fear you absolutely can cultivate and get better at this, just like I did when I was in the Army. I signed up when I was 17, and emotionally I was 15 and grew up very sheltered. To improve I just learned to model my reactions to stress/fear after the older more emotionally mature soldiers. One method was just having a sense of humor from things that would freak me out in the past. As for aptitude and IQ testing, again I know for a fact you can improve your scores just by practicing, its no different than working out, but for your brain, patterned neurological responses. You might not be able to go for a 100 IQ score to a 150 IQ score, but I still think you can improve it way more than psychologists will attest too, some only think you can improve by a couple points, no matter how much you study and practice taking tests.
"Improvise, adapt and overcome." It's like when I did my PFT for the AST. One day I literally thought I was going to die, but I labored on regardless. I just don't know the meaning of the word "quit."
I agree with most of the things said on this video with the exception being someone maxing their pt test somehow makes them better than someone getting a 260 or whatever the score maybe within reason. I had soldiers that were on the graduated scale with a 318 and 310 fall apart on patrol while having other soldiers with a drastically lesser score and never have an issue. It’s more of a mindset of never quitting that shows the difference.
I like how all the Marines in the comments are butthurt that he didn't mention the Corps. What would a Marine do without an audience...lol. 19-D
Deus1008 Marine here, not that butt hurt. when you have the reputation, both present and historically you don't need representation. it's just automatically there
+Ron Felix respect ✊
a reputation and a public relations machine bar none... USMC has a habit of taking credit for everything and i can back my statements with historical facts not the bulshit they pump into your puny minds at mcrd.
+Mike McCormick yo brother
Mike McCormick. Hue, Chosen, Iwo Jima...FUCK YOU.
'Why?' The question I ask most often & the one that gets me into the most trouble in every job I ever do...