This isn’t our club dudes.. ITS OUR COUNTRY! We fight every weekend for our Cubs. But our country is a whole different ball game!! We have the hardest nastiest fans in the world!
It was at EURO 2016 in France. It is a National teams Tournament that happens every 4 years. People fighting are football hooligans. They exist in almost every European country. They are fans of many different clubs supporting their National teams. English hooligans had a reputation for decades. They were going all around Europe causing havoc from 80s to 00s. But in the last 20 years, Eastern European hooligan groups (often called firms) were on the rise and this was a perfect opportunity to show English that things have changed. And they sure did show them. English fans were reluctant to go to WC in Russia 2 years later bc of the events in Marseille. It took a few games for them to make sure they are safe (Russian police did a way better job in 2018 then French police did in 2016) before they started coming in big numbers. And to make it clear, most of the time football hooligans fight eachother. Both sides are willing to fight. There are exceptions where "normal" fans get attacked, but it's not what they usually do. They are not interested in fighting people that are there just to have some fun and watch the game. There is no pride in that as they see it. Nothing to brag about.
you can say that but they wrecked havoc to the center of Marseille and a lot of innocents got hurt. despicable behavior from these so called football fans
I remember that it was going down in some areas before the Euro Championship started. It was actually between several countries. It included gangs and football hooligan factions. It was really crazy!
@@O.G.KNOWLEDGE-RPG I wish Americans never discover what is an angry european gang… Europe is in war for thounsands of years between gangs, groups, mafias, countries etc. USA is only 200 years old
@@alexduarte6606 So true my heritage was here in America well before the Europeans came to the Americas. It is such the truth they have been at war in Africa, Asia and Europe for thousands of years. I truly understand everything you just said!👍🏾💯
Also they definitely didn’t have enough police to deal with the situation because several countries had thousands of people travel there for the Championship
Football violence has been round for years. It was huge in England in the 80s and early 90s but a huge crack down wiped alot of it out or drove it more underground. It is still hugely present in other European countries which is why you see alot of ultra videos. England vs Russia in France was all pre arranged but prior to the event nearly all England fans who had a history or football related crime had there passports siezed so we're not able to fly to France. Which basically left English football fans who were there just for the football to deal with Russian hooligans.
not all of them. i know several dozen english hooligans that went out there, its only thre hooligans that had criminal records that couldnt travel, which is a minority
100%. All of England's top boys/firm have been banned from travelling abroad for years. Let's see if Russia try that shit over in the UK when the Police can't do shit about banning England's top boys. Russia won't do shit.
@@nickg2117 russias ultras hunt in pa ks they have to, to take down 1 british hooligan like wolves attacking a lion I say british cos scotish hooligans are also handy and if the Scots are there as mu h as the dislike us they will come to our aid
3500 English hooligans on banning orders couldn’t travel to France they had to hand their passport to their local police station before the tournament or face up to 6 months in prison where as the Russians drove and got into France with no banning orders. Imagine what it would have been like with 3500 active English football hooligans out there.
Here's what actually happened in Marseille in 2016. English fans invented hooliganism. English fans were the number 1 hooligans through the 70s, 80s and even through large parts of the 90s. But late 80s and early 90s the British government and police basically stamped out hooliganism by coming down very hard on the culprits. People went to prison. People were banned. And violence at stadiums became almost non existent. But by this stage, European countries were starting to really make a name for themselves on the hooligan scene and always saw the English fans as being the big name you'd want to defeat. So whether it be English teams playing in European competition or the actual England team, the English fans would always come under attack when abroad. And mostly would give as good as they got and mostly win the fights anyway. But the Russians and Eastern Europeans took it to a new level and started to treat soccer Violence as a sport that could be trained for. For English lads it was just a bit of a laugh. As soon as the draw was made and everyone knew England would face Russia in Marseille in June 2016, there were 2 distinct groups who were gunning for the English. Firstly, the Russians. They released videos of their hooligans (many MMA fighters and paramilitaries) training in the forest and issuing threats to English fans. Secondly, the local mostly Arabic Marseille youth. England had smashed up the city in 1998 and Marseille is supposed to be the most gangster city in France so they were embarrassed. Again, threats were made long before. The stupid out of touch English government and the soccer authorities decided in their wisdom that the best way to stop trouble was to stop the hooligans travelling. So as many as 5000 English hooligans had to hand in their passports and report to police stations on the day of the game. But what this did was actually leave the normal England fans vulnerable because other countries like Russia didn't ban their own hooligans. So on the first night in Marseille, the local thugs attacked English fans who were out drinking. But these weren't hooligans. These were drunk loud fans there for a sing song and a good time. Naturally because they were drunk they fought back but the English media only showed England fans throwing bottles and chairs and made it look like they actually started the trouble. Then came the Russians. No hooligans for England remember. So in the streets of Marseille but also famously INSIDE THE STADIUM after the game finished, Russian hooligans, trained fighters, attacked non hooligan England fans and destroyed them. The hooligan code says this is a no-no but the Russians didn't care, they just wanted English blood. Interestingly though, pictures emerged afterwards of 7 England fans sitting right in the middle of the Russian ultras but they were left untouched. Those guys were fans of Millwall, England's most hooligan club. Word is the Russians respected them and left them alone and possibly knew that they would get some fighting back. The authorities would never admit their mistake but for the next few games the word is that they 'unbanned' some hooligans and allowed them to travel. The Russians weren't interested at that point. All this is confirmed in a TH-cam video with Vasily the Killer, the leader of the Russian hooligans. He freely admits that they knew that the real English hooligans weren't there. He seems a decent bloke to be honest. None of this prevented the media from blaming England fans though.
It can happen before, after and also during the match in the stadiums, where opponents start to fight in the stadium, throwing firework and gass bombs, and attacking each other sometimes with the fists. but that does not happen a lot in the stadiums because of security and big vences between the home and out supporters
European countries have been fighting each other since time began and at these big tournaments where there’s a lot of people from all different countries all in one country and everyone’s been drinking sometimes things just boil over. International football violence as a whole though has declined massively since the 80s and 90s mainly from travel bans
The English were the top hooligans in Europa in the 70/80’s. After that other countries followed. Now the east European countries rule the hooligan scene with some big firms in Croatia and Serbia. Russian also have very big and tough firms. Most guys train very hard in boxing and kickboxing. This was about big mouth English (more numbers but their topboys couldn’t travel because of UK police) against a smaller Russian mob with good tactics and fighting skills. The group you see with black t shirts (20/30 guys) was the extremely good trained Russian mob that kept hundreds English on the run. Many English knocked out because of the great fighting skills and great tactics staying together and working as a tactical team. One of the biggest hooligan fight you will ever see. So in the end the Russians wanted to teach the English a lesson who has the tougher and harder hooligans and show everybody the power has shifted.
the most important thing is that there were no more than 300 Russian hooligans, but they were more physically prepared and they were preparing for a fight.The Russians wore black T-shirts and usually walked in small groups, but if they beat, they beat everyone.
Russia had the upperhand early on due to they targeted groups of 20 and had pre prepared this but as soon as england fans used their numbers they had the advantage
@@dunsonhouse don’t listen to the biased ness, EVERY international tournament the English government comes round to known/convicted hooligans in the uk and takes our passports!! Killed me watching all this 🤦♂️ the Russians flew in on private jet with a Russian politician! Big set up, those English fans was just party boys!
England is seen as the original home of football hooliganism where it originated in the 70s, due to CCTV and policing it has largely died out in England. these days in Russia and other Eastern European nations there is a lot more hooliganism than in Western Europe. England and Russia weren't actually playing each other but we're both in Marseille, France at the same time for the European Championships. For many Russian hooligans this was an opportunity to show that they are the top dogs and the England fans got absolutely battered.
Russia had the upperhand early on due to they targeted groups of 20 and had pre prepared this but as soon as england fans used their numbers they had the advantage
Im in my mid 50s and i can tell you this is feeble compared to the late 70s and 80s english football violence, check it and see for yourself... Ahh the good ole days.....🤕✌💙🇬🇧
The russians were very effective when they targeted groups of 20 or under and were superior to begin with as they pre planned it but as soon as word spread the england fans got together and the numbers were too much. In addition england fans back home when heard about it got people in france to back their nation. England used to run hooliganism in the 80s in Europe but uk laws stopped them a lot. Russia are active when it comes to hooliganism. The way I word it is a sleeping giant (england) against active groups (russia)
@@liamwilkinson9902 suppose different things happened in different streets, so am going to apologise if I came across as a dick, glad nothing happened to you, shouldn't really be happening at all.... But arseholes and alcohol 🤷♂️
EURO - european NATIONAL teams tournament. Its not the clubs its about representing national sides. This particular tournament was held in France, year 2016.
Their was some provocation from each other on social media. Also the political situation between England and Russia was not very good at that time. So it was a perfekt Moment to show who the big Dog is, and the English fans got absolutely destroyed and some of them got actually killed by the Russians. You have to understand that the Situation with the police is different here in Europe. Europeans are in general not scared to face the police, now imagine how less Holigans has to be afraid from the police 😅. The police tried, but you can’t prevent thousands of hooligans from fighting each other. The worst thing for the police is to make something that provoked them more. You can see that they don’t Play around, they kill if they have to, police officers included, so it’s better to protect those who have nothing to do with the violence and let them fight each other. After a while they get tired, and than they can do something. Bevor it’s just not possible.
Ull find that most hooligans come from struggling economic countries. England in the 70s was where it started but as times change in the countries, people aren't as angry. Hooliganism was/is a vent on the boiling pot. The Eastern European countries read books about the English hooliganism and some idealised it so fighting an English fan is like a scalp of honour. The Eastern European hooligans are extremely racist aswel, just as the English originally were but then people came together to fight other countries. It's all working class frustrations. Also England now has absolute elite football and the clubs have real money so people are there for entertainment rather than anything else plus alot more middle class people are into football where as before it was factory and mine workers and those types
All the english hooligans or people that had a record of violence at football were banned from flying to france, So any england fans there were there for the football but had to deal with russian hooligans. Russian hooligans are much different though, english hooligans are normally beered up men having a scrap, russian and alot of european hooligans train to fight and are better organised.
This wasn't England v Russia. It was a couple of hundred Russians who battered the English for 3 days . Even the local Muslims youth embarrassed them in marseille that weekend. The English are near the bottom of the list of countries in Europe who can fight anymore
Couldn’t be more wrong. When was the last time you saw fight? The Italian Ultras are some of the best and hardcore in the world and england saw them off easy. Im not english but Norwegian / German. I was also in france at this time and to begin with russia was all over them but when they got together englands numbers were too much and russians had to back off just in that square clip. I have been greece and seen gate 7, poland and saw legia, germany but their ultras are mainly art not fighting and the english fans still have it even if they dont use it. Again this is from a nord so sorry for bad grammar.
From someone who was there, this was more than just your typical football tear up. The Russians were going after everyone. Women, children, shirters, disabled fans. It was a fucking massacre
Basically this is before a tournament being held in France. Around 400-500 Russian hooligans decided to plan and run around the city attacking English fans who have gathered before the match as both countries were playing each other that day. Eastern European countries usually train for this in MMA/boxing it’s taken way more serious than it even was when it started in the 70s in England. This wasn’t no fight it was English fans out enjoying themselves drinking and being attacked with I think a few being very seriously hurt. They even tried charging England fans inside the stadium. A lot of Eastern European ultras have ties to neo nazi groups too. You should check videos out on that as it’s a big issue in football here recently (England vs Hungary) earlier this year was bad with thousands making monkey noises to black English players.
These are national team fans going at it. Russians and English. Two hard drinking countries too.This goes on all over the world when two rivalries that hate each other meet. It happens in World Cup and club level. Stand up for your country national team or club and your colors. You have to live it to understand it. I don't agree with it but I understand it. I personally do not like my archrival in football. Nice reaction guys.
I don’t agree with the violence but I understand, cuz I’m a Fc Barcelona fan and Real Madrid fans get on my nerves. I hate Real Madrid and it’s existence.
Tbh, I don't think there is a rivalry between Russia and England. It's just the fact that a lot of people don't like english fans because of their behaviour, when they're drunk. I think the reason this fight in France happened is drunk English fans and russians who didn't like their behaviour
I'm Brazilian and I love Russia! I don't like violence in sport (hooligans), but if I were in Marseille that day, I would be in the fight defending on the side with the Russians !
@Cian MacGana Traitor, why? I think it wasn't Russia that caused the Christie Question and The Pirara Question! I also think that it wasn't Russia that acted behind the scenes to bring about the Paraguay War in the 19th century! Or was it Russia that waged a war against Argentina (threatening to bombard the country with atomic bombs) to maintain its hold on the Falkland Islands, which are over 12,000 KM from the UK ? (I know, I'm not Argentinian, but Argentina is a sister/brother country for us brazilians) But, relax, as I said, I love Russia (my favorite country in the world), but I don't hate England / UK , i like UK ! You guys have good football, good music (The Beatles, Phil Collins, SEAL, LEVEL 42, Rick Wakeman Jamiroquai and so on) and I like the Wuthering Heights and 1984 books!
@Cian MacGana Your offenses do not reach me! You are British, it is natural that you have a bad feeling for Russia! It is a rivalry that goes back many centuries! I will not judge, I respect your opinion! But, I'm Brazilian, so I don't have to hate Russia, nor England, Brazil is very far from Europe, and Brazil hasn't been involved in many conflicts, quite the contrary, Brazil is known as a peaceful country or neutral (neutral before Bolsonaro), so there is no historical rivalry with either Britain or Russia. But, that doesn't stop me from liking, or loving any country whatsoever!
@@diegoalbues2471 "I hate genocidal imperial powers from the west, so I'll support a genocidal imperial power from the east!" Yup, the average intelligence of a Brazilian. You've never even set foot in Russia.
Russians turned up organized amd attacked England fans who were just sitting having a drink. If the English firms joined together and went for a fight, the Russians would know they'd been in one
It's because the English fan's act the hard man before football matches so 50 Russians went to France and beat up 2500 English fan's It's really embarrassing for the English fan's.
Football violence isn't about the game . We support teams in the city's were we are from because we are from there . So we fight other ppl from other towns/city's . Same when countries play each other we fight each other because we all From different places
England fans are the pioneers of football violence, they were the first to implement it on the world stage, to the point where the Russian’s masculinity got jealous. Today, British police are the most well equipped police force in the world when it comes to dealing with fan violence/crowd control as they’ve dealt with it the longest. Cctv on every corner, something you don’t get in most other parts of the world and the fact that these renowned English football fans can’t even enter the country. While there’s no punishment to Russian fans, they have free reign. So when Russians boast about this, just remember. It’s not the hardest job to attack drunk men who are there with their families. Russian fans even retreated at one point which I think is even more embarrassing.
You guys should react to "HOOLIGANS & ULTRAS VS POLICE (PSG, FENERBAHCE, RED STAR, NAPOLI, SPARTAK MOSCOW & MORE)" This video will show you how deep football hooliganism truly is.
Simply put its tribal.......firm is the name given to individual groups of casuals/hooligans....... There are different levels.....domestic Club level.. Your firm goes against other firms from the club you play each game,Derby games where the firms are from the same town are usually the worst for violence, but there is also the top firms who try to outdo each other from totally different parts of the country, club games in Europe.... Some clubs have more than one firm and when they play a rival team from Europe they sometimes join together as one firm to clash with the European hooligans and then there is international level where its country against country and that's just..because they are from another country.
The guys in black shirts is just a far better trained unit. You can see the experience these buys have. You should look up more on hooligans. It will blow your mind :)
There's a movie, Green Street Hooligans, that talks about it really well.. People in the comments try to romanticise it, but it's literally an excuse to get into a massive fight and destroy property. Worst part is reports show that domestic violence against women in the UK increases by like 30% or some outrageously high number every time England loses a match in the world cup. Tells you all you need to know
"Worst part is reports show that domestic violence against women in the UK increases by like 30% or some outrageously high number every time England loses a match in the world cup" You believe everything you read? It wouldn't be a way to tell. And who says it's about a loss? Alcohol is the main culprit anyway.
It's been like this FOREVER...There doesn't have to be a 'reason'..football hooligans are in it for the fight..for their clubs & country...it is what it is.
This is the whole reason for going to games, not for the football, but to fight the opponents fans who also want to fight you, it’s the English way, spread and perfected by other European clubs
it´s completely normal in europe. Especially in slavic countries. If you are in a rival city, and they know you are the fan of the opposite site. You are basically risking your own life.
You have to see it this way: England is known for their hooligans and hooliganism in general. Russia has been known for “stupid” and “drunks” for years. Russian youth is changing that image and hooliganism is getting bigger over there as well. What happens is the following, Russian hooligans are becoming trained fighters in MMA and other combat sports, they are dedicated and most of them don’t even drink alcohol anymore. In 2016 England and Russia play in the same tournament in France. England always in big numbers of people are enjoying the sun and beers in Marseille. All of a sudden a group of Russian hooligans appear there as well and start targeting English fans and hooligans. Even though the Russians are quite outnumbered they have one goal! Beat the English! Why? Because they were their example of hooliganism! It’s all for honor for these Russians. And as u can see in the videos they are fighting like real trained fighters and beat the English while being outnumbered. Now at the end of the story the english were the “stupid” and “drunk” guys.
Russian hooligans jump Englishmen as they are drinking with their wives and girlfriends at the local cafés. They suckerpunch anyone they see. Showing up in boxershorts and vaseline on their faces. It was a joke. This did not make Russians the most feared, simply the most hated. It was cowardly and cheap, and we remember it as the most embarrassing thing to happen in a cup in a long time. And a disgrace to the culture.
There would be trouble at every ground at every game in England at weekends but the Police have nailed it down. There’s still trouble mostly in town centres now. It’s a lot different now than it was when I started following football in the 80’s. Think if we ever get to face Russia again in a tournament it will be carnage.
England had most violent hooligans in 80s but now Rissians are more violent. 10 years time it be someone else. Goes in cycles every country reaches their peaks at different times.
Nothing happened that led up to this... it's just that England were the first with hooliganism at the football so they're the ones that all the other firms want to challenge and Russia have a well game firm these days so as soon as it was known they were playing each other on the pitch, it was inevitable that it would go off between them. This footage looks like it was from before the game but it went off afterwards too.
there is a easy fix. If the supporters fight before the game, it gets cancelled and the teams stand with 0 points. if it happens after a game, the next games for these teams gets cancelled..
In Europe. Football means war and deducation to the team ore contry. They are rivals. And deffending team collers or contry. This is happening befor the game. Its from the euro cup in France.
i was there. england are famous for their violent hooligan culture aand russia wanted to send a message? they planned numerous attacks and didnt discriminate they attacked old andyoung people but we stood our ground
Dam, this was a mental week. We knew where and when the Russians were coming. It was always going be dangerous. Honest this is a serious history with the firms. I cannot say more on TH-cam. Btw alot of these guys are not just street fighters but pro in many martial arts !
It's about who are the toughest guys, it's all about showing your group isn't afraid of any other group nor the police. And these people put their money where their mouth is. 7:38 "why you not running" Because that would mean you're not a real man.
It was 300 vs around a few thousand normal fans with kids. These English support lers were normal Fans with their kids and the Russians came in prepares and literally instigated beating kids. Hardly hero worthy. Of the 4000 English hooligans were allowed the travel it would have been different
In football there are 2 games One on pitch club vs club and 2nd fans vs fans You can have shitty club but if your firm is strong, you dominate over other firm
Rivalries are not just on teams but also the fans,they are very dedicated and loyal to their teams
least it gives the obese football fans some activity
yall gotta understand that european bad blood exists since the bronze age, middle age, ww1 and ww2
Appreciate you sharing and the comment
Lol true, and it’s not a club game where you love your team or not, this is country vs country very different
they used to fight each other since hundred or thousand years ago soo xD
From the bronze age :-D You made me smile there.
East european Blood Is made to fight not eauropean
This isn’t our club dudes.. ITS OUR COUNTRY! We fight every weekend for our Cubs. But our country is a whole different ball game!! We have the hardest nastiest fans in the world!
It's a culture!! Fighting drinking football!! Your country first then your club! It's a lifestyle!
Correct, it is a lifestyle 100% we love our clubs and our country, its normal
WEST HAM!!!! WEST HAM!! WEST HAM!!
It was at EURO 2016 in France. It is a National teams Tournament that happens every 4 years. People fighting are football hooligans. They exist in almost every European country. They are fans of many different clubs supporting their National teams. English hooligans had a reputation for decades. They were going all around Europe causing havoc from 80s to 00s. But in the last 20 years, Eastern European hooligan groups (often called firms) were on the rise and this was a perfect opportunity to show English that things have changed. And they sure did show them. English fans were reluctant to go to WC in Russia 2 years later bc of the events in Marseille. It took a few games for them to make sure they are safe (Russian police did a way better job in 2018 then French police did in 2016) before they started coming in big numbers. And to make it clear, most of the time football hooligans fight eachother. Both sides are willing to fight. There are exceptions where "normal" fans get attacked, but it's not what they usually do. They are not interested in fighting people that are there just to have some fun and watch the game. There is no pride in that as they see it. Nothing to brag about.
you can say that but they wrecked havoc to the center of Marseille and a lot of innocents got hurt. despicable behavior from these so called football fans
British hooligans are called firms, mainland hooligans are ultras
@@kjdempsey Ultras and hooligans are not the same thing
@@workinginthewell3498 they’re only called firms in Britain
@@kjdempsey I know that, and you already said that
I remember that it was going down in some areas before the Euro Championship started. It was actually between several countries. It included gangs and football hooligan factions. It was really crazy!
Hahaha gangs
You are clown dont know anything about this culture
@@13-AB Not gangs like here in the US! SMMFH
@@O.G.KNOWLEDGE-RPG I wish Americans never discover what is an angry european gang… Europe is in war for thounsands of years between gangs, groups, mafias, countries etc. USA is only 200 years old
@@alexduarte6606 So true my heritage was here in America well before the Europeans came to the Americas. It is such the truth they have been at war in Africa, Asia and Europe for thousands of years. I truly understand everything you just said!👍🏾💯
Also they definitely didn’t have enough police to deal with the situation because several countries had thousands of people travel there for the Championship
Hooligans like fighting more than football, they use the team/ teams to tell who they fight for.
Appreciate the comment
It’s nothing to do with football. It’s all about pride. Despite what these men claim
Football violence has been round for years. It was huge in England in the 80s and early 90s but a huge crack down wiped alot of it out or drove it more underground. It is still hugely present in other European countries which is why you see alot of ultra videos. England vs Russia in France was all pre arranged but prior to the event nearly all England fans who had a history or football related crime had there passports siezed so we're not able to fly to France. Which basically left English football fans who were there just for the football to deal with Russian hooligans.
not all of them. i know several dozen english hooligans that went out there, its only thre hooligans that had criminal records that couldnt travel, which is a minority
100%. All of England's top boys/firm have been banned from travelling abroad for years. Let's see if Russia try that shit over in the UK when the Police can't do shit about banning England's top boys. Russia won't do shit.
@@nickg2117 we are allowed back k for the american world cup
@@nickg2117 russias ultras hunt in pa ks they have to, to take down 1 british hooligan like wolves attacking a lion I say british cos scotish hooligans are also handy and if the Scots are there as mu h as the dislike us they will come to our aid
@@cyberash3000 You'd need someone to come to your aid, and if it's the Scots then they'd get smashed all over as well, just like in 1996.
3500 English hooligans on banning orders couldn’t travel to France they had to hand their passport to their local police station before the tournament or face up to 6 months in prison where as the Russians drove and got into France with no banning orders. Imagine what it would have been like with 3500 active English football hooligans out there.
Where were them 3500 hooligans when other ultras groups went to UK these last years? Were they detained again? lol
English cant fight
@@mrko209 we like to smash other people's country's up... u don't shit on you're own doorstep 😉
Какие нахуц 3500 у вас там хулиганов нет только пиво пьете максимум
@mrko209 the government has been clamping down on uk ultras since the 80s. They threaten their families. Wake up
Here's what actually happened in Marseille in 2016.
English fans invented hooliganism. English fans were the number 1 hooligans through the 70s, 80s and even through large parts of the 90s.
But late 80s and early 90s the British government and police basically stamped out hooliganism by coming down very hard on the culprits. People went to prison. People were banned. And violence at stadiums became almost non existent.
But by this stage, European countries were starting to really make a name for themselves on the hooligan scene and always saw the English fans as being the big name you'd want to defeat. So whether it be English teams playing in European competition or the actual England team, the English fans would always come under attack when abroad. And mostly would give as good as they got and mostly win the fights anyway.
But the Russians and Eastern Europeans took it to a new level and started to treat soccer Violence as a sport that could be trained for. For English lads it was just a bit of a laugh.
As soon as the draw was made and everyone knew England would face Russia in Marseille in June 2016, there were 2 distinct groups who were gunning for the English.
Firstly, the Russians. They released videos of their hooligans (many MMA fighters and paramilitaries) training in the forest and issuing threats to English fans.
Secondly, the local mostly Arabic Marseille youth. England had smashed up the city in 1998 and Marseille is supposed to be the most gangster city in France so they were embarrassed. Again, threats were made long before.
The stupid out of touch English government and the soccer authorities decided in their wisdom that the best way to stop trouble was to stop the hooligans travelling. So as many as 5000 English hooligans had to hand in their passports and report to police stations on the day of the game.
But what this did was actually leave the normal England fans vulnerable because other countries like Russia didn't ban their own hooligans.
So on the first night in Marseille, the local thugs attacked English fans who were out drinking. But these weren't hooligans. These were drunk loud fans there for a sing song and a good time. Naturally because they were drunk they fought back but the English media only showed England fans throwing bottles and chairs and made it look like they actually started the trouble.
Then came the Russians. No hooligans for England remember. So in the streets of Marseille but also famously INSIDE THE STADIUM after the game finished, Russian hooligans, trained fighters, attacked non hooligan England fans and destroyed them.
The hooligan code says this is a no-no but the Russians didn't care, they just wanted English blood.
Interestingly though, pictures emerged afterwards of 7 England fans sitting right in the middle of the Russian ultras but they were left untouched. Those guys were fans of Millwall, England's most hooligan club. Word is the Russians respected them and left them alone and possibly knew that they would get some fighting back.
The authorities would never admit their mistake but for the next few games the word is that they 'unbanned' some hooligans and allowed them to travel. The Russians weren't interested at that point.
All this is confirmed in a TH-cam video with Vasily the Killer, the leader of the Russian hooligans. He freely admits that they knew that the real English hooligans weren't there. He seems a decent bloke to be honest.
None of this prevented the media from blaming England fans though.
Spot on
It can happen before, after and also during the match in the stadiums, where opponents start to fight in the stadium, throwing firework and gass bombs, and attacking each other sometimes with the fists. but that does not happen a lot in the stadiums because of security and big vences between the home and out supporters
The russians run to the airport exactly after this and went back to Russia befor police hade the chans to identify them...
European countries have been fighting each other since time began and at these big tournaments where there’s a lot of people from all different countries all in one country and everyone’s been drinking sometimes things just boil over. International football violence as a whole though has declined massively since the 80s and 90s mainly from travel bans
The English were the top hooligans in Europa in the 70/80’s. After that other countries followed. Now the east European countries rule the hooligan scene with some big firms in Croatia and Serbia. Russian also have very big and tough firms. Most guys train very hard in boxing and kickboxing.
This was about big mouth English (more numbers but their topboys couldn’t travel because of UK police) against a smaller Russian mob with good tactics and fighting skills. The group you see with black t shirts (20/30 guys) was the extremely good trained Russian mob that kept hundreds English on the run. Many English knocked out because of the great fighting skills and great tactics staying together and working as a tactical team. One of the biggest hooligan fight you will ever see.
So in the end the Russians wanted to teach the English a lesson who has the tougher and harder hooligans and show everybody the power has shifted.
Normal sunday for us!!!🤣🤣🤣
the most important thing is that there were no more than 300 Russian hooligans, but they were more physically prepared and they were preparing for a fight.The Russians wore black T-shirts and usually walked in small groups, but if they beat, they beat everyone.
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Russia had the upperhand early on due to they targeted groups of 20 and had pre prepared this but as soon as england fans used their numbers they had the advantage
@@dunsonhouse don’t listen to the biased ness, EVERY international tournament the English government comes round to known/convicted hooligans in the uk and takes our passports!! Killed me watching all this 🤦♂️ the Russians flew in on private jet with a Russian politician! Big set up, those English fans was just party boys!
Most important thing. ENGLISH HOOLIGANS WERE BANNED
Nothing like a good punch up in the morning 😄...🏴🏴
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England is seen as the original home of football hooliganism where it originated in the 70s, due to CCTV and policing it has largely died out in England. these days in Russia and other Eastern European nations there is a lot more hooliganism than in Western Europe. England and Russia weren't actually playing each other but we're both in Marseille, France at the same time for the European Championships. For many Russian hooligans this was an opportunity to show that they are the top dogs and the England fans got absolutely battered.
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England and Russia was playing each other 😂
Yea you couldnt be more wrong 😂
Russia had the upperhand early on due to they targeted groups of 20 and had pre prepared this but as soon as england fans used their numbers they had the advantage
a lot more hooliganism than in western europe? where are Germany, France and the Netherlands from then?
Russian Hooligans have a lot of Professional Fighters.
Pity never meet Feyenoord. Kops Feyenoord number 1
You can always see these scenarios especially win their teams fight for the championship
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Im in my mid 50s and i can tell you this is feeble compared to the late 70s and 80s english football violence, check it and see for yourself...
Ahh the good ole days.....🤕✌💙🇬🇧
Pavement dance off a little different to the 80s
It was a battle for a reputation during a world cup tournament where England played against Russia
Its a good day out, bit of everything.
The russians were very effective when they targeted groups of 20 or under and were superior to begin with as they pre planned it but as soon as word spread the england fans got together and the numbers were too much. In addition england fans back home when heard about it got people in france to back their nation. England used to run hooliganism in the 80s in Europe but uk laws stopped them a lot. Russia are active when it comes to hooliganism. The way I word it is a sleeping giant (england) against active groups (russia)
Are you absolutely sure about all of that.. 🤥
@@bexandshell yes I am, and im not english. Im Scandinavian so thats the perception here and what I have experienced myself.
@@liamwilkinson9902 fair enough, I respect your views..... but that's not what happened in Marseille.
@@bexandshell I was there and luckily left alone cause I wore my Norwegian hat
@@liamwilkinson9902 suppose different things happened in different streets, so am going to apologise if I came across as a dick, glad nothing happened to you, shouldn't really be happening at all.... But arseholes and alcohol 🤷♂️
EURO - european NATIONAL teams tournament. Its not the clubs its about representing national sides. This particular tournament was held in France, year 2016.
Black dudes: “we have the hood”
White dudes: “we have one fat guy with no shirt.”
Black dudes: *runs*
Over 4000 english hooligans couldn't be there as there passports taken off them and still they kicked the shit out of all the other fans
We fight for the city, pride and the team. You would understand if you came here and felt the atmosphere just pure joy and Adrenalin
Vi ste svi idioti treba vas sve streljati
we understand but it doesn't make it any less stupid, childish and pathetic. Grown adults who can't control their own emotions.
completely recommend watching any good episode of Derby Days (on youtube)
Their was some provocation from each other on social media. Also the political situation between England and Russia was not very good at that time. So it was a perfekt Moment to show who the big Dog is, and the English fans got absolutely destroyed and some of them got actually killed by the Russians.
You have to understand that the Situation with the police is different here in Europe. Europeans are in general not scared to face the police, now imagine how less Holigans has to be afraid from the police 😅. The police tried, but you can’t prevent thousands of hooligans from fighting each other. The worst thing for the police is to make something that provoked them more. You can see that they don’t Play around, they kill if they have to, police officers included, so it’s better to protect those who have nothing to do with the violence and let them fight each other. After a while they get tired, and than they can do something. Bevor it’s just not possible.
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@@dunsonhouse that's bullshit not one thing he said is true
No one got killed by the way get your arse to Ukraine keyboard warrior
Hooliganism is part of football my g's. Many Many people have died because of it
Ull find that most hooligans come from struggling economic countries. England in the 70s was where it started but as times change in the countries, people aren't as angry. Hooliganism was/is a vent on the boiling pot.
The Eastern European countries read books about the English hooliganism and some idealised it so fighting an English fan is like a scalp of honour.
The Eastern European hooligans are extremely racist aswel, just as the English originally were but then people came together to fight other countries.
It's all working class frustrations.
Also England now has absolute elite football and the clubs have real money so people are there for entertainment rather than anything else plus alot more middle class people are into football where as before it was factory and mine workers and those types
This was national teams playing, not clubs. And the biggest issue was they all drunk too much before the game even had started.
All the english hooligans or people that had a record of violence at football were banned from flying to france, So any england fans there were there for the football but had to deal with russian hooligans. Russian hooligans are much different though, english hooligans are normally beered up men having a scrap, russian and alot of european hooligans train to fight and are better organised.
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I call it, ASSKICKED !!!😆😆😆
@@MegaMrEva they attacked children ffs. Not that hard.
This wasn't England v Russia. It was a couple of hundred Russians who battered the English for 3 days . Even the local Muslims youth embarrassed them in marseille that weekend. The English are near the bottom of the list of countries in Europe who can fight anymore
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Couldn’t be more wrong. When was the last time you saw fight? The Italian Ultras are some of the best and hardcore in the world and england saw them off easy. Im not english but Norwegian / German. I was also in france at this time and to begin with russia was all over them but when they got together englands numbers were too much and russians had to back off just in that square clip. I have been greece and seen gate 7, poland and saw legia, germany but their ultras are mainly art not fighting and the english fans still have it even if they dont use it. Again this is from a nord so sorry for bad grammar.
@MrThunderbird1111 last time liverpool fans were in rome remind me what happened? Oh yes they went round beating people up and robbing shops
From someone who was there, this was more than just your typical football tear up. The Russians were going after everyone. Women, children, shirters, disabled fans. It was a fucking massacre
Basically this is before a tournament being held in France.
Around 400-500 Russian hooligans decided to plan and run around the city attacking English fans who have gathered before the match as both countries were playing each other that day. Eastern European countries usually train for this in MMA/boxing it’s taken way more serious than it even was when it started in the 70s in England. This wasn’t no fight it was English fans out enjoying themselves drinking and being attacked with I think a few being very seriously hurt. They even tried charging England fans inside the stadium. A lot of Eastern European ultras have ties to neo nazi groups too. You should check videos out on that as it’s a big issue in football here recently (England vs Hungary) earlier this year was bad with thousands making monkey noises to black English players.
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Russians wanted to Show that the one feared English hools are not that strong anymore
just the boy's keeping match fit
You’re talking about people who have been fighting for decades, centuries
These are national team fans going at it. Russians and English. Two hard drinking countries too.This goes on all over the world when two rivalries that hate each other meet. It happens in World Cup and club level. Stand up for your country national team or club and your colors. You have to live it to understand it. I don't agree with it but I understand it. I personally do not like my archrival in football. Nice reaction guys.
I don’t agree with the violence but I understand, cuz I’m a Fc Barcelona fan and Real Madrid fans get on my nerves. I hate Real Madrid and it’s existence.
@@ridwanibrahim7392 right
Tbh, I don't think there is a rivalry between Russia and England. It's just the fact that a lot of people don't like english fans because of their behaviour, when they're drunk. I think the reason this fight in France happened is drunk English fans and russians who didn't like their behaviour
I'm Brazilian and I love Russia!
I don't like violence in sport (hooligans), but if I were in Marseille that day, I would be in the fight defending on the side with the Russians !
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@Cian MacGana Traitor, why? I think it wasn't Russia that caused the Christie Question and The Pirara Question!
I also think that it wasn't Russia that acted behind the scenes to bring about the Paraguay War in the 19th century!
Or was it Russia that waged a war against Argentina (threatening to bombard the country with atomic bombs) to maintain its hold on the Falkland Islands, which are over 12,000 KM from the UK ? (I know, I'm not Argentinian, but Argentina is a sister/brother country for us brazilians)
But, relax, as I said, I love Russia (my favorite country in the world), but I don't hate England / UK , i like UK !
You guys have good football, good music (The Beatles, Phil Collins, SEAL, LEVEL 42, Rick Wakeman Jamiroquai and so on) and I like the Wuthering Heights and 1984 books!
@Cian MacGana Your offenses do not reach me! You are British, it is natural that you have a bad feeling for Russia!
It is a rivalry that goes back many centuries!
I will not judge, I respect your opinion!
But, I'm Brazilian, so I don't have to hate Russia, nor England, Brazil is very far from Europe, and Brazil hasn't been involved in many conflicts, quite the contrary, Brazil is known as a peaceful country or neutral (neutral before Bolsonaro), so there is no historical rivalry with either Britain or Russia.
But, that doesn't stop me from liking, or loving any country whatsoever!
@@diegoalbues2471 It doesn’t matter how far away the Falklands are. They were and still are ours. Argentina invaded and got their arse handed to them.
@@diegoalbues2471 "I hate genocidal imperial powers from the west, so I'll support a genocidal imperial power from the east!"
Yup, the average intelligence of a Brazilian. You've never even set foot in Russia.
Russians turned up organized amd attacked England fans who were just sitting having a drink. If the English firms joined together and went for a fight, the Russians would know they'd been in one
It's because the English fan's act the hard man before football matches so 50 Russians went to France and beat up 2500 English fan's It's really embarrassing for the English fan's.
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Your talking crap the Russias attack family's I was there
It was 300 actually and they attacked normal fans with kids. It was sick. They are not hard men but neo nazi supporters
Football violence isn't about the game . We support teams in the city's were we are from because we are from there . So we fight other ppl from other towns/city's .
Same when countries play each other we fight each other because we all
From different places
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@@dunsonhouse Bit like when ya arrange group/gang fights with other high schools when ya teens ... We never grow up 🤣
10:30 To na 100% jest Brytyjczyk . Umierając przewrócił się ,ale piwa nie rozlał .
England fans are the pioneers of football violence, they were the first to implement it on the world stage, to the point where the Russian’s masculinity got jealous. Today, British police are the most well equipped police force in the world when it comes to dealing with fan violence/crowd control as they’ve dealt with it the longest. Cctv on every corner, something you don’t get in most other parts of the world and the fact that these renowned English football fans can’t even enter the country. While there’s no punishment to Russian fans, they have free reign.
So when Russians boast about this, just remember. It’s not the hardest job to attack drunk men who are there with their families. Russian fans even retreated at one point which I think is even more embarrassing.
And who 's bragging here ? What makes you think we're bragging about bending the English with cancer?
@@user-lx8ve2sf7k shut up. Russia embarrassed themselves after this attacking normal fans with their kids and men under 20. 😂 pathetic.
You guys should react to "HOOLIGANS & ULTRAS VS POLICE (PSG, FENERBAHCE, RED STAR, NAPOLI, SPARTAK MOSCOW & MORE)"
This video will show you how deep football hooliganism truly is.
Simply put its tribal.......firm is the name given to individual groups of casuals/hooligans....... There are different levels.....domestic Club level.. Your firm goes against other firms from the club you play each game,Derby games where the firms are from the same town are usually the worst for violence, but there is also the top firms who try to outdo each other from totally different parts of the country, club games in Europe.... Some clubs have more than one firm and when they play a rival team from Europe they sometimes join together as one firm to clash with the European hooligans and then there is international level where its country against country and that's just..because they are from another country.
The guys in black shirts is just a far better trained unit. You can see the experience these buys have. You should look up more on hooligans. It will blow your mind :)
There's a movie, Green Street Hooligans, that talks about it really well..
People in the comments try to romanticise it, but it's literally an excuse to get into a massive fight and destroy property.
Worst part is reports show that domestic violence against women in the UK increases by like 30% or some outrageously high number every time England loses a match in the world cup. Tells you all you need to know
"Worst part is reports show that domestic violence against women in the UK increases by like 30% or some outrageously high number every time England loses a match in the world cup"
You believe everything you read? It wouldn't be a way to tell. And who says it's about a loss? Alcohol is the main culprit anyway.
It's been like this FOREVER...There doesn't have to be a 'reason'..football hooligans are in it for the fight..for their clubs & country...it is what it is.
This is the whole reason for going to games, not for the football, but to fight the opponents fans who also want to fight you, it’s the English way, spread and perfected by other European clubs
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4:00 this is spartans vs persians at the battle of thermopylae🔥
i love how naive and clueless yanks are😂
it´s completely normal in europe. Especially in slavic countries. If you are in a rival city, and they know you are the fan of the opposite site. You are basically risking your own life.
Pride for England my friends
In america you grab your guns, in Europe is mostly just fists.
You have to see it this way: England is known for their hooligans and hooliganism in general. Russia has been known for “stupid” and “drunks” for years. Russian youth is changing that image and hooliganism is getting bigger over there as well. What happens is the following, Russian hooligans are becoming trained fighters in MMA and other combat sports, they are dedicated and most of them don’t even drink alcohol anymore. In 2016 England and Russia play in the same tournament in France. England always in big numbers of people are enjoying the sun and beers in Marseille. All of a sudden a group of Russian hooligans appear there as well and start targeting English fans and hooligans. Even though the Russians are quite outnumbered they have one goal! Beat the English! Why? Because they were their example of hooliganism! It’s all for honor for these Russians. And as u can see in the videos they are fighting like real trained fighters and beat the English while being outnumbered. Now at the end of the story the english were the “stupid” and “drunk” guys.
Russian hooligans jump Englishmen as they are drinking with their wives and girlfriends at the local cafés. They suckerpunch anyone they see. Showing up in boxershorts and vaseline on their faces. It was a joke. This did not make Russians the most feared, simply the most hated. It was cowardly and cheap, and we remember it as the most embarrassing thing to happen in a cup in a long time. And a disgrace to the culture.
They were not hooligans. They were normal families with kids and they under 20s. Russia is pathetic to do that.
There would be trouble at every ground at every game in England at weekends but the Police have nailed it down. There’s still trouble mostly in town centres now.
It’s a lot different now than it was when I started following football in the 80’s.
Think if we ever get to face Russia again in a tournament it will be carnage.
Nice little street festival :)
This is standard football rivalry. Check out the English hooligan outfits. Danny Dyer “ real football factory”
Срби - Руси Браћа Заувек!
At first its about the sport second about war that is football
Of corse its worth to hurt somebody. That is the point. Hooligan forever💪
"Marsellini" 😂🥳
England had most violent hooligans in 80s but now Rissians are more violent. 10 years time it be someone else. Goes in cycles every country reaches their peaks at different times.
England till I die ! 👊🏻🏴
Nothing happened that led up to this... it's just that England were the first with hooliganism at the football so they're the ones that all the other firms want to challenge and Russia have a well game firm these days so as soon as it was known they were playing each other on the pitch, it was inevitable that it would go off between them. This footage looks like it was from before the game but it went off afterwards too.
european has been fighting each other since medieval age... this is just another form of battles
Some Russians are crazy as hell. I was in Moscow years ago. Some very rough areas, reminded me of high rise project building we have in the US.
U should watch some KOTS its bareknuckle fighting from diffrent hooligans group, its very proffesinal.
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@@dunsonhouse this is one fight but theres lot of moore in that channel.
@@jespergran7628 definitely will take a look at it thank you
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hey, it is fun
there is a easy fix. If the supporters fight before the game, it gets cancelled and the teams stand with 0 points. if it happens after a game, the next games for these teams gets cancelled..
In Europe. Football means war and deducation to the team ore contry. They are rivals. And deffending team collers or contry. This is happening befor the game. Its from the euro cup in France.
For us it's just hugging lol
UNA pelea cada 2 años en eurocopa y cada 4 años en mundiales no hace daño a nadie..esta guay el ambiente violento
'what else you going to do on a Saturday?' Watch the movie The Football Factory, you'll understand firms (football hooligans) more 👍🏻
i was there. england are famous for their violent hooligan culture aand russia wanted to send a message? they planned numerous attacks and didnt discriminate they attacked old andyoung people but we stood our ground
I believe most of the English hooligans had their passports seized .. this was hooligans vs normal traveling fans. More if an assault on avg people
Its just a way of life 🫵👊
Before and After the Game is the traditionell fights
Dam, this was a mental week. We knew where and when the Russians were coming. It was always going be dangerous. Honest this is a serious history with the firms. I cannot say more on TH-cam. Btw alot of these guys are not just street fighters but pro in many martial arts !
Fighting Russians is like fighting gravity......
It's about who are the toughest guys, it's all about showing your group isn't afraid of any other group nor the police. And these people put their money where their mouth is.
7:38 "why you not running" Because that would mean you're not a real man.
ultras have hooligans every hooligna is an ultra, but not every ultra is a hooligan the uk has hooligans
50 RUSSIAN Hooligs against thousand of british hooligans. It is amazing how few people just destroy a group of thousands
No, Russian hooligans stuck in the 80’s vs families and people out to have a good time who were forced to defend themselves. Get it right.
It was 300 vs around a few thousand normal fans with kids. These English support lers were normal Fans with their kids and the Russians came in prepares and literally instigated beating kids. Hardly hero worthy. Of the 4000 English hooligans were allowed the travel it would have been different
You should see Moroccan hooligans
Most U.K. clubs have fans that just go for a fight Stoke city is famous for the naughty forty.
Here it's not about a club, but countries. Hard to explain though.
Normaly you have a line if there is a people on the ground you dont kick him again. You dont wanna kill people
Yes ultra addict to club for life's don't mean don't mean there's hooligan
This is what happens when there're no guns/knives and men fight! The Russians came extremely organised that tournament! Google their link with Putin.
It's a game in it self
Is like crips and bloods
You can compare it with gang wars without Guns.
In football there are 2 games
One on pitch club vs club and 2nd fans vs fans
You can have shitty club but if your firm is strong, you dominate over other firm