Question? I heard an orthodox priest state that we are to listen to the apostle paul (or read him) as if he was Jesus. That is, that when paul speaks Jesus speaks. Is this correct?
I don't think so. Paul was filled with the spirit of Christ, and his words have a lot of authority. But Paul was not the son of God -- this applies only to Jesus. Paul's speech is capable of error. The speech of Jesus is not.
no. I've taken classes from John Behr, and as far as I know, that isn't a stance he would take. That doesn't seem like strictly orthodox thinking, either. Though i wouldn't doubt that some Orthodox think that way, just like some Christians from other backgrounds probably think that way as well.
No. Paul speech, namely his canonical writing is incapable of error because they are deemed inspired by the Church as Scripture. I'm not trying to be rude here, but this is basic christianity.
I think that these passages from Paul reflect what the priest was talking about: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me" (Galatians 2). 7 "For he who has died is freed from sin. 8 But if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. 9 For we know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 10 The death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. 11 So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus." (Romans 6). "For we have the mind of Christ" (1Cor).
Thank you for sharing this
It was such an honour to do my thesis about Ireneaus under Behr... And its even greater to get even more insight about it in this talk
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Would it kill the audience to address him as Father or Fr. John or Fr. Behr? I mean, show some respect.
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Question? I heard an orthodox priest state that we are to listen to the apostle paul (or read him) as if he was Jesus. That is, that when paul speaks Jesus speaks. Is this correct?
I don't think so. Paul was filled with the spirit of Christ, and his words have a lot of authority. But Paul was not the son of God -- this applies only to Jesus. Paul's speech is capable of error. The speech of Jesus is not.
no. I've taken classes from John Behr, and as far as I know, that isn't a stance he would take. That doesn't seem like strictly orthodox thinking, either. Though i wouldn't doubt that some Orthodox think that way, just like some Christians from other backgrounds probably think that way as well.
No. Paul speech, namely his canonical writing is incapable of error because they are deemed inspired by the Church as Scripture. I'm not trying to be rude here, but this is basic christianity.
I think that these passages from Paul reflect what the priest was talking about: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me" (Galatians 2). 7 "For he who has died is freed from sin. 8 But if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. 9 For we know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 10 The death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. 11 So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus." (Romans 6). "For we have the mind of Christ" (1Cor).